₦airaland Forum

agaugust:
This is Nigeria's weapons money in action, not some 16 page paper budget of funds to pay salaries of soldiers and buy SANDF HIV drugs for your half dead 30 battalions of soldiers who will die before enemy even shoots them.

Cash buys weapons, not PDF files and paper stories of wish list...

http://allafrica.com/stories/201410230300.html

http://www.punchng.com/news/military-takes-delivery-of-two-jets-loaded-with-weapons/
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All that started with a paper dummy!! Jonathan approached the national assembly to ask for an approval to make a loan with a proposal in black and white. He was offered an approval to approach foreign banks to make a loan of $1 billion to buy weapons in black and white. His loan application was approved by the foreign banks in black and white. Can you now see that paper dominate everything dummy. Even when we design a new car, ship, aeroplane, electronic device, budget, expenditure, etc, we put it on paper first.

An MBA graduate who does not understand the basics of reporting, recording, accountability and evaluation. You will be a bad manager who will teach students to spend without a plan on paper to outline what they want to spend for. I wish you do not manage any company because that entity will rot just before you even start to spend.

agaugust:
Nigeria produces weapons/equipment domestically from body armour, night vision goggles, to rifles, to heavy machine guns, to mortars, to APCs, LAVs with twin 23mm cannon, Drones/UAV, rocket pods, etc. Enough to fight as a mechanized infantry
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Most of Nigerias locally produced weapons are sub standard and many of which are still in infancy stage. Such weapons do not even make 0.10% of the inventory of the local armed forces. Nigerian military itself does not even have confidence on their locally produced weapons, the reason why Denel proposed to take over Dicon years ago.

Businesses has its up and downs, surely the author did not do proper research about business before he could put all that to paper. The money lost was.an investment of buying controlling stake of Dangote's flour mill. I fail to understand where does this go about Dangote r.aping our economy unless you did not understand the texts well. I really doubt if you have MBA degree, that is happening in Nigeria.

agaugust:
Nigeria produces weapons/equipment domestically from body armour, night vision goggles, to rifles, to heavy machine guns, to mortars, to APCs, LAVs with twin 23mm cannon, Drones/UAV, rocket pods, etc. Enough to fight as a mechanized infantry
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Most of Nigerias locally produced weapons are sub standard and many of which are still in infancy stage. Such weapons do not even make 0.10% of the inventory of the local armed forces. Nigerian military itself does not even have confidence on their locally produced weapons, the reason why Denel proposed to take over Dicon years ago.

lezz:
one of your sport ministers compared the English league to the south African league.

I have since gone numb to all your claims.

Some places in Niger republic is more beautiful than America!!!

Man when we say your cities are rotting away it is FACT. ALL THE WHITE EXCLUSIVE AREAS HAVE NOW
TURNED SLUMS WITH BLACK MIGRATION; FROM DURBAN TO JOBURG

Your thinking has already been compromised by that tiny little plot of kleinfontein and orania. SA has developed as even more better and bolder than it was during apartheid. That has even been admitted by the DA the first opposition party in SA. Our country was full of slums during apartheid and ANC has eradicated all that and performed magic by converting all of that into decent residential area. SA now looks attractive with many slums evicted and rebuild with more attractive look. The ANC has invested over $400 billion to continue to eradicate all those slums everyday and build free houses.

There is no so called exclusively white areas in SA and places which happened to be dirty are those occupied largerly by foreigners (forgive my xenophobic comment). Truly, places which turn to be occupied by foreigners in SA are dirty. Just take Hillbrow as an example which is predominantly occupied by Nigerians. The place now is a hell on earth, it is drugs capital of Africa, dirty and smelly. Nigerians do not take a good care of themselves, the places which they live in and even their personal hygiene. Hillbrow, and many places in Johannesburg which are currently occupied by foreigners used to be jewels and diamonds of SA during Apartheid. It is usually these places that white men blame black men for not maintaining. Whenever, they see foreigners, they mistakenly classify them as black South Africans. Foreigners must know to look after SA buildings by keeping them tidy. Once, SA start to complain about this, they cry xenophobia.

agaugust:
The fact that I said its a 16 page PDF proves I read it.

It's nothing but a piece of paper until backed up by physical cash.

Same way SANDF was boasting about buying A400M Airbus super lift aircraft, and even made part payment, then could not raise the balance cash and your penniless broke air force had to cancel the contract and abandon hope of ever buying A400M aircraft forever.

I work in defense industry so I don't follow paper list of wishful weapons purchases unless the government has released cash for it.

PDF file papers and budget papers are not cash that buys you weapons....you need real money...SANDF has NO NO NO MONEY for weapons purchase, stop fooling yourself with paper documents, it won't even buy you bananas
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Every expenditure start with a paper. Go and ask Jonathan and he will lecture you that every expenditure in the federal republic of Nigeria started in black and white. It has to be in paper so that the aims and objectives of the expenditure are outlined in details to the public. Every expenditure of the democratic government should be transparent and achieving just that they will have to record every expenditure on paper. So, to us, since it is now starting to reflect on official documents other than newspapers, it is just more than even hope.

When it comes to money matters, Nigeria might have the biggest economy in Africa, but does not have a rich government. In actual fact, SA government is more richer than Nigerian government. Owing to the fact that you made recent arms procurement does not mean you have more money, it means that you deprived other departments of their budgets and vote all that into war against terror campaign. You prioritised war and SA prioritises development and that does not translate into SA not having money. It only mean SA focus is somewhere else and if there is any need that SA must inject billions of dollars into its defence account it will happily do so.

Our billions of rands are awarded to our aged persons, orphans, terminally sick, children from 0-18years, handicapped, etc. Something which many countries in Africa can only dream of doing.

MikeCZAR:
If that was the case then air forces would just integrate missiles on older generation air craft.

The IRIS-T can target beyond visual range threats.

The F-7 is inferior and stands no chance.

The F7-NI we both know that is not a good machine for a dog fight. The gripen will detect F-7 jet from kilometers away without it noticing the presence of the gripen jet.

Does anyone know how does it feel like when your enemy can see you and you cannot see him. What are the implications? l see DANGER!! DANGER!!! DANGER!!! painted everywhere…Your life will literally be in mercy of your enemy. Let us pray that your enemy is merciful. The gripen jet with its stealth capability will thrive anywhere from the weakest link of the F-7, let say from the side or even rear and send the F-7 pilot to the gate of hell. BOOOOOOOMMM!!

Well, everybody, Nigerian fighter pilots are more wiser than @agaugust, they know what I am talking about and won't even dare to challenge 4th generation fighter on a death ring. They know the moment they do that they will be signing their death certificate. F-7 can only challenge gripen when it (the gripen) has discharged all its weaponry.

agaugust:
Monopoly is NOT allowed in Nigeria by law. MTN has competition from Nigerian Globacom and Visafone.

Dangote is azz räping South African economy he removed 1 billion Rands from the pockets of your brainless corporate executives and BEE sponsored incompetent shareholders....Dangote sallowed your billion rands and you are crying unable to do anything.....foolish nation
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Man, you are not making any sense anymore, or do you want to tell us your MBA tactics have now run out. You are not making any more of facts but just one fiction after another.

saengine:
U want us to post the bank statements and invoices? Are you mentally well? Are you sick? SANDF is getting that equipment, with a defence satellite currently oribiting.....no one cares if you believe it or not. Its a fact. A400 was cancelled because of project delays and the price doubled. Again...go cry in your sad corner.

That's true, I have also seen the approval of such acquisition on the allocation of 2015 defence budget. SANDF is moving forward and we just only want to prove to the likes of @agaugust that it is not only Nigerian armed forces that has the monopoly to a procure weapons. We all have that financial capability.

agaugust:
That's why South Africans are happy to commit murder.

Civilized nation my foot ! America is 100 times more civilized than your shiit hole South Africa, yet we have death sentence in many states of America, you commit murder and government will superglue your azz to electric chair, na high voltage shock go kill y.ou !

Sorry!! you are not AAA n American but just a bloody poor Nigerian who is just fantasising about being an American.

Well, you are right, not all states in America have abolished death penalty, but many of such states have not changed from their evil past of propagating racism. It is always predominantly blacks who happen to be put under death raw when they commit felony as compared to their white counterparts.

Man, America is not such a paradise that they always show you on Hollywood. South Africa is much more developed than other places that I have seen both in America and Europe. It is not to say that I overrate SA, but I have to admit SA is beautiful.

lezz:
whites are just 9% of the population, those cities shouldn't be populated.

Numerically, SA has over 6 million white people.

lezz:
with whites moving over to kleinfontein and aronia?

With the mass migration by blacks into johanesbourg and whites scamping to Sandton in fear?

With Malema of the economic freedom fighters, a former anc youth leader advocating for seizure of white lands without compensation?

And zuma singing kill the Boers with machine guns in parliament amongst party leaders?

Kleinfontein and Orania does not even have a population of over 5000 people combined together. Not all white South Africans are mentally sick.

Stop putting your garbage of lies on Zuma's mouth. He has never sang "Kill the Boer" ever in his political campaign to lead the ANC. You are confusing Malema's "Kill the Boer" with Zuma's " Bring me my machine". Both of the songs were neither composed by the two. The songs were sang by revolutionaries in exile during the struggle again apartheid.

My message is just simple, stop deceiving people with misconceptions.

agaugust:
You posted a wish-list and a daydream of hopes, not reality.

I too can sit at home and write list of BMW, Bently, Benz, Range Rover, Lexus that I will buy 2015-2016...but do I have all that cash ready?

Web link source is NOT = cash

PDF file is 16 pages of paper story and NOT = money

#ShowUsSANDFcashForWeapons !
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An accountant who does not know that everything start with a plan before it becomes a reality. I pity the institution that awarded you with your imaginary MBA.

lezz:
so? http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://www.south-africa-the-real-issues.org/Critical/CriticalOverview.aspx&sa=U&ei=wc_wVPGkJMz9aNOigvAB&ved=0CBcQFjAE&usg=AFQjCNFl6ND_pzb8Mkrgih7CVSS3LGrUEg.
The link above says you're living in denial.

http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://www.genocidewatch.org/southafrica.html&sa=U&ei=wc_wVPGkJMz9aNOigvAB&ved=0CBUQFjAD&usg=AFQjCNHw9VhDa5sdu-8dW3j2J6n9A6Ss-w

The other link says whites who makes up just 9% of the demographic of southafrica own and run the economy.

southafrica is already at the threshold of the fate that befell Zimbabwe. Although Zimbabwe didn't have the yoke of apartheid; was never chased into caves and bush huts, so she didn't face the complex and impossible task of unlearning barbarism, infant ràpë , blame-trading, identity crisis, fear of whites, parasitic dependency, a twisted sense of entitlement and inferiority complex.

South Africa is in the midnight of her life and her children are on nairaland wasting away their time over those(Nigerians) whose very destiny is to unshackle the residue of mental chains still strap about their necks

A lot of negative stuffs can be said about SA, but we always come out victorious. The analysts across the world have made various interpretations that when a black SA man takes power, he will drive all white men to the sea. That could not happen in 1994.

They then wrote again that when Nelson Mandela dies, there will be Armageddon in SA, a black man shall kill a white man wherever they meet. Mandela died and was buried and nothing happened, instead we hugged, moaned, cherished and ate together on one table to prove to the world that they were wrong.

Even if there can be evil forces out there, who supported apartheid and are still moaning its abolishment, we are very sorry to tell them that they are just bunch of losers. They can paint the whole net with garbage soiled with propaganda for as much as they can, South Africa shall prevail. The spirit of Ubuntu shall live among us to show the world who are the real propagandists.

South Africa unite!!!

agaugust:
Dangote and Nigerian doctors are colonialists ráping South Africa's economy
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This illiterate statement cannot come from an MBA graduate. Since when do doctors who depend on government for feeding and clothing bankrupt the economy. Foreign African doctors in SA are paid peanuts and does not compare to local doctors who have plenty of opportunities.

Dangote's purported investment in SA is so small that surely by now has not seen any rewards. He is said to have bought controlling stake at Sephaku, a cement company which was unknown to South Africans. Dangote will just have to know that SA has over 20 cement companies and He and Sephaku will have a hard time to dominate the industry. Here it is not Nigeria where the only bag of cement you can get is that of Dangote. He will just have to be strong because it will not be easy.

agaugust:
The most important weapons in South African military are all imported made in Europe, the weapons your defense industry makes are only good for defeating Lesotho and Burundi.

Gripen jet, Hawk jet, Valour Frigate, Heroine Submarine, Olifant/Centurion tanks, Starstreak missile, are all imported
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Those items you mentioned above is only few. Look we only received Hawk model and we build them ourselves. We changed the performance of our starstreak and we can even give them new names because they do not perform like starstreak missiles generally. The centurion tanks we changed them completely to give them new face.

Generally over 90% of our weapons are locally produced. Of course, jealousy can never allow you to see all these.


we are on the top 20 arms exporters in the world.


http://www.sipri.org/googlemaps/2014_of_at_top_20_exp_map.html

agaugust:
There are 1,000 times more American drug peddlars than Nigerians.

South Africans too peddle drugs and you have a lot of incurable drug addits who are beyond rehabilitation.

Your nation is a hell hole.

Nigerians are the world no 1 drug peddlers more than any country on the mother earth.

iterator24:
you're confused

Nigerians who live as refugees and Nigerian doctors to say

EVarn:
sell drugs?,as in aspirin?
yeah,nigerians own big pharmacies in SA,we even have doctors and qualified professors{not fraudulent enugu cocoyam farmers like your father} working in SA.
In fact,we have colonized them,wouldnt you agree brother?
....hahahahahaha....

Narcotic drugs, mumu.

agaugust:
Drug dealers are in your country because you South Africans are drug addicts....chained down by hemp and cocaine, your problem not ours.

Nigerian doctors are keeping you alive in South Africa, and investors like Dangote are busy r.aping your economy big time
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Bwahahahahahahaha!! Don't make me laugh like that. Nigerian survive by selling drugs in SA. Nigerian doctors work in government hospitals asking for salary in order to sustain their lives. They are found only in few hospitals. Dangote will just only have to be strong, because SA is not Nigeria where he monopolised everything. I have never came across any company owned by Dangote in SA. However, SA companies are r.aping Nigerian economy like hell.

iterator24:
The Government of Nigeria Releases the First-ever Global Adult Tobacco Survey (GATS)
Report in the African Region
www.afro.who.int/en/nigeria/press-materials/item/5719-the-government-of-nigeria-releases-the-first-ever-global-adult-tobacco-survey-gats-report-in-the-african-region.html


now die

What I like about it is that it says "the first ever", meaning it has never happened before. Hopefully it is just another estimations again.

EVarn:
it isnt through companies alone that you can seize an economy,nigerians in SA have established businesses that have flourished and overtaken other indigenous business around,thereby sparking xenophobic attacks from south african savages and filthy scvms.
SA doesnt hold any 'swath' of our economy,the pittance we gave you when you people came to begg us crying with snott in the nose and dirt in the nails,is barely a fraction of our behemoth economy.

You are dreaming, the only best thing that Nigerians do here is to sell drugs and nothing else. The pakistanese, Bangladeshi, Ethiopians, Somalians do fairly well than Nigerians.

iterator24:
do you even know how franchises works? mheen ...speechless

How can I write of something and I don't know what does it mean, Dummy.

agaugust:
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SPAR is an European company founded in the 1930s and moved to America in 1960s....It's NOT South African you mumu !

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spar_(retailer)
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Yet, Nigeria's Spar is South Africa's franchise. That we can bet.

iterator24:
what a stupiid comment

But is true.

EVarn:
in my statement,i remember saying "....and other indigenious grocers",which clearly indicates that we have numerous butcheries all around the country that brands and packages meat.
the butchers you see in open market are those who sell fresh meat right from the slaughter house,moreover,they arent just anywhere,they have a joint butcher plaza where they make camp in the market and sell their meat.

Still the place is always untidy. Most Nigerians buy their meat from there. It is only the middle class who always runs to Shoprite and Spar to buy fresh juicy SA imported stake.

agaugust:
South Africa does not require travel warnings, daily news reports put it to the world as Africa's murder capital, r.ape capital, hate/racism capital, HIV capital. Your rotteness is self advertising, needs no billboards promo.

Nigeria's murder rate, no murder can go recorded because the police always gets reports and statistics are collated.

Casual gun or firearms ownership is generally illegal in Nigeria, so it's difficult to commit murder. South Africa allows guns in the hands of madmen like Oscar Pistorious and those people shoot y.our murder rate sky high to global top level ranking
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Nigeria does not have a reliable data. They do not take data of anything, it is just estimations, as corroborated by my dad, a professor.

iterator24:
I'll visit your father in enugu and report you ..

My dad grew up in SA and is now a South African. He speaks 5 SA languages. His parents relocated to SA in the late 60s.

EVarn:
like i said,grocers like zartech and other indigenious grocers,sell meat that are package,stamped by the NIS,and possess a NAFDAC serial number.

Zartech cannot be everywhere every time. What about the one in your market? In SA we have butcheries everywhere and we normally do not only buy meat at a specific place.

EVarn:
f00lish boy,zartech does not mix dog meat with beef,neither do the sell 'dirty' meat.
infact,no one sells dirty meat in nigeria,beef is beef,people go to the market,request for beef and buy it.simple.

Your meat from the market bought from those butchers with smelly armpit looks dirty to me and to even South Africans. You can never sell the meat that has not been inspected and stamped. You can never sell meat from an open market where there is lot of flies. That is unhealthy and dirty. The meat stuff must be packaged and wrapped or must be inside the cooler to keep it away from flies.

All meat stuff that you buy from SHOPRITE and SPAR are imported from SA and many Nigerians buy meat from those places.

EVarn:
we produce enough meat,infact,i rarely see anyone buying imported beef meat,we have grocers like zartech to take care of that.the only imported meat we buy here is turkey and chicken,and even that is now being dominated by indigenous poultry packaging companies.

So you are used to eating that dirty meat from the market which is often mixed with dog meat

@DieVluit-You won't find T-Bones, Chops, Chuck, Sirloin steak, Rum steak, etc. in Nigeria.