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agaugust: You do envy us don't you? Yes you do !

Nigerians are the most intelligent Africans, while South African are the second dullest brains in the whole world
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agaugust: .
Mi-35 Hind E beats Rooivalk, now proved.
Nigerian army AGLs beat those of SANDF now proved
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Bama Battle Update :

Nigerian army k.ills 1,200 Boko Haram Fighters In 5 days

It is the mother of all battles

NAF jets and helicopters attack ALL Boko Haram bases simultaneously

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/09/boko-haram-jonathan-declares-full-scale-war-deploys-warplanes/

Africa's most experienced army gets angry o !

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chris365: THIS PROBABLY SUMS IT UP

[size=14pt]The South African National Defense Force - A Military in Freefall[/size]
Despite an eagerness to use the South African National Defense Force (SANDF) as a means of projecting the nation's influence abroad, there is evidence that South Africa's government has so neglected or mismanaged its military assets that it may soon be unable to defend itself, much less engage in international adventures.

Last year, Roelf Meyer, the chairman of South Africa's defense review committee, identified a number of strategic goals for the SANDF, including:

· Maintaining the security of South Africa's borders;

· Promoting peace and security in Africa;

· Assisting civil authorities in policing or anti-poaching efforts;

· Establishing South Africa as a responsible leading member of the African Union;

· Responding to new regional threats such as piracy (Business Day [Johannesburg], April 13, 2012).

However, with a reduced force size and inadequate resources, the SANDF will soon have difficulty meeting most of these goals.

[b]Life in the South African military is not seen as desirable by many potential recruits. Pay can be erratic, HIV rates are as high as 25% (making these troops unavailable for external deployment) and an estimated 35% of South Africa's military barracks have been classed as unfit for human occupation since 2007 (Mail & Guardian [Johannesburg], April 21, 2012). Without money to operate sophisticated equipment, skilled staff continue to flee at the end of their enlistment and there is little opportunity for new recruits to train in skills useful in the civilian world. Parliament's Joint Standing Committee on Defense has described abuse of women in the SANDF as "common," adding that many female recruits have been impregnated by their instructors (BUAnews, November 26, 2011). Racial abuse of black subordinates by white senior officers also remains a problem 19 years into the integration process. South African troops are unionized and have at times clashed with police during pay disputes[/b].

With the 2012 defense budget of $3.8 billion still far below the 2 percent of GDP required to maintain the armed forces, the South African defense department began looking at other ways of generating income, including contracting out soldiers to municipalities to do various labor and infrastructure repair projects. The department also created the Defense Estate Management agency to lease or sell-off defense department lands. Much of the land owned by the SANDF came by way of British government endowments of military facilities made on the condition that they could only be used for defense purposes

Politicization of the military is still a problem in South Africa. There has been speculation that the current chief of the SANDF, Angolan-trained Lieutenant General Solly Zacharia Shoke, received his appointment as a result of his history as a commander in Umkhonto we Sizwe, the ANC's military wing (SAPA, May 11, 2011). Umkhonto we Sizwe forces were integrated into the newly formed SANDF between 1994 and 2004. An investigative commission recently declared that the SANDF was too politicized, a situation typified by former Defense Minister Lindiwe Sisulu's preference for wearing SANDF uniforms at public occasions

A sometimes unaccountable procurement process remains a problem for the South African military; last year the political opposition revealed over $7.75 billion had passed through a defense department slush fund that had failed to reveal to parliament how the money had been spent (Johannesburg Times, April 18, 2012). The army has been overlooked in recent acquisition programs and is close to finding itself equipped with obsolete equipment in terms of armored personnel carriers, logistics vehicles and main battle tanks

South Africa's once-effective air force has new aircraft but cannot afford the fuel and maintenance needed to keep them in the air. Despite this, one element of the air force that did see extensive time in the air was Squadron 21, charged with flying South African VIPs and government ministers. Former defense minister Lindiwe Sisilu booked 203 flights over three years in chartered luxury Gulfstream jets at an estimated cost of $4.5 million. Some 63 of the flights were empty, as they were intended solely to pick the minister up somewhere and take her to another destination in what one opposition critic described as "a staggering waste of money"

While government ministers travel in luxury, the South African Air Force (SAAF) still transports troops in 70-year-old Dakota aircraft. One of these, a Dakota C47TP (an upgraded DC-3 with turbine engines) crashed, claiming 11 lives when it was unable to fly above inclement weather. The crash came shortly after the military decided it could no longer afford a maintenance contract for its military aircraft (SAPA, December 6, 2012; Sunday Times [Johannesburg], December 10, 2012). World War II-era Dakotas also continue to be used for surveillance of South Africa's 3,900 kilometer coastline in the absence of modern surveillance aircraft. Meanwhile, 26 new Swedish-built Gripen fighter-jets, purchased at a cost of R10 billion (approximately $1 billion), average only two hours in the air each week; not enough to keep the machines in operable condition and far from the 10 hours of flight-time each week considered necessary to keep pilots well-trained

Former SAAF chief Lieutenant General Carlo Gagiano retired in 2012 after trying to resign in late 2011 during his hospitalization for stress as he continued to try unsuccessfully to find enough money for the fuel and maintenance to keep the SAAF in the air. His successor, Lieutenant General Fabian Zimpande Msimang (the first black chief of the SAAF) will have trouble keeping all but executive travel jets in the air if current funding problems continue

The once formidable South African navy now spends little time at sea. Replacement parts and maintenance budgets barely exist, leaving only one of the navy's four new frigates operational and only one its four new submarines able to put out to sea (Sunday Times [Johannesburg], December 10, 2012). South African Navy ships and SAAF aircraft carry out anti-piracy operations in the Mozambique Channel, though this mission is also threatened by underfunding.

Despite economic troubles and a collapsing military, South Africa still desires to be a major player in Africa, which encourages it to commit to missions that stretch the military's capacity to its breaking point. Unless current trends are reversed, the steady transformation of the SANDF into an assembly of riot police and border guards will be completed in just a few years. Geography and reputation have left South Africa with few external enemies, but it is also extremely wealthy in various resources. South Africa was only cobbled together from various constituent parts a little more than a century ago, and it would not be surprising if a general collapse of South Africa's security infrastructure invited the emergence of secessionist movements drawing on both domestic and external inspiration. South Africa's eventual inability[right][/right] to project force beyond its borders will also have important implications for regional security in sub-Saharan Africa.

This report was compiled by JAMESTOWN FOUNDATION and cited from "Terrorism Monitor Volume: 11 Issue: 2"

bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... oh my sides the dakota part cracked my ribs

AugustineAgain: Chineke mo

Only 6 qualified Gripen jet pilots we know, but now it's worse, sure less than 12 Hawk jet pilots, less than 4 Rooivalk pilots, only two Valour frigates crew, only one submarine crew....and the oldest aged grey haired weak heart high blood pressure infantry soldiers in the world, with the younger soldiers hooked on HIV treatment drugs for life !

SANDF is a professionally useless military, best value we can get is to make them pose for photographs so we can have free album on internet
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chris365: Now I see why seleka feasted on sandf and made them run back to Soweto like scared dogs . And why they needed Tanzanian protection in drc


Weak Leadership And Silence On Loss Of SAndf Skills


RAFEEK SHAH, MP
DA SPOKESPERSON FOR DEFENCE

An average of 187 skilled and experienced technicians and 24 pilots of the South African Air Force (SAAF) resign annually. According to a parliamentary reply (1), we are experiencing a steady loss of skills and experience, which has serious implications for force readiness, the maintenance of equipment and weaponry, and the supervision of subordinate members.

The Democratic Alliance (DA) wrote a letter to the previous Minister of Defence asking for details on what is being done to address the ongoing loss of critical skills in the military, as well as for details of a contingency plan which will guarantee that our defence capability is not compromised. To date, the DA has not received any reply.

In September 2008, we called upon the new Minister, Charles Nqakula, to tell the public what he intended to do about the loss of military skills. To date, we have heard nothing. Repeatedly, we see clear evidence of weak and ineffective leadership in critical issues. Is the Minister going to wait until there is no one left before he acts?

Since 2004:

? There have been 94 resignations by pilots, and all of these were of the rank Second Lieutenant and higher;
? There have been 746 resignations by SAAF technical personnel and of these, 51 resignations were of the rank Second Lieutenant and higher;
? There have been 114 resignations from Command and Control (2), and of these 40 were of the rank Second Lieutenant and higher.

We can clearly see that there is a steady loss of skills and experience from the SAAF every year. While the military is bringing in new members through the Military Skills Development System (MSDS), this system merely replaces bodies but not skills and experience. The loss of senior experienced personnel also affects the ability of the military to develop young military leadership by example and skills transfer.

We want to see clear, decisive action being taken by the Minister to assure us that something is being done to address this issue. We repeat our calls for the Minister to address the public on this matter and for a full audit to be done to determine why people are resigning.

(1) Parliamentary Reply No. 1476/2008
(2) Command and Control provides operationally ready command and control elements in support of air battle space operations

AugustineAgain: Do you know the meaning of the world 'TRUE' ? It means proved correct and tested correct.

All the other armies of over 100 countries of this world can also claim to be TRUE professional because they have not been tested in battle and have never fought any long sustained war like America, Russia, Britain, Israel, and Nigeria !

Only we who are fully tested are the true world class professional military.


Show us a war fought by 10,000 terrorists disguised as civilians of whom 50% are South African citizens, living on South African soil, mixed with your own civilians in your townships, armed with machine guns and RPGs, sow us such a war fought by your SANDF to test your true practican capacity to cope with such an unconventional war motivated by religion and readiness to do suicide bombing plus full war spread over an area of the size of Great Britain and across the whole length of South African border from Namibia to Mozambique, crossing border into Zimbabwe and crossing back into South Africa at night to attack civilian towns that are defenceless, show me such a war SANDF has ever fought to prove their real combat capability and not photography marketing you guys are doing here like retaards, who told you photographs is a prove of an army's battlefield capability? I am sure you don't know the true meaning of war.

Nigerian army just k.illed over 100 Bokos and captured over 30, in a dangerous mixed street to street fighting inside a city of half a million civilians and yet with very little civilian casualties even in the dark night of combat, show me where your SANDF 'professional' army and air force has done that in the last 100 years !!!!

SANDF are only professional photographers

#ShowUsSANDF inBattle AndThe Enemy TheyK.illed

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Enjoy it, it's your own South African news report . Mugu Maga !

"There’s a war going on in southern Africa. And though it may not have the human body count of, say, Sudan, this battle is just as bloody. In 2012, rhino poaching in South Africa left more than 650 rhinos illegally slaughtered– approximately one every 16 hours– and more than 100 humans died in the fight to protect them."

http://greenglobaltravel.com/2013/03/18/rhino-poaching-in-south-africa-rhino-wars/

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agaugust: Sharaaaap ! Mumu, what proof can I not produce? I said it has been repeated enough on this thread, and a South African just repeated it above, just before your foolish comment.
Olodo
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agaugust: South African military being killed by animal thieves, what would happen to them if they fight another country when thieves can defeat them. You no dey think?

agaugust: No , you are the SLOWPOKE that is not intelligent enough to do a simple google search about your own bullshiit country.
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Soldier-killed-in-Kruger-National-Park-20130819
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agaugust: 100 human beings all members of the South African security forces including air force officers have been k.illed in your Kruger Park Rhino war, fighting ordinary bushmen hunters, even Seleka rebels did not k.ill that much before SANDF ran away to hide under the armpits of French soldiers, now you begged American soldiers to come save your black azzes, you are never free from white-men's colonization.
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patches689: Nigeria lost their war against poachers 100 years ago ;Dp

agaugust: Both private and National parks are invaded by the American soldiers, they are working with SANDF.....Fact !!

South African elite special task forces too have been travelling to America for training since 2010...


"In 2010 top officers of the unit were sent to the United States to brush up on their crisis response skills"

http://www.skillsportal.co.za/page/education/779307-Top-SAPS-officers-on-special-training-in-US#.VAaS0MJdUvY


Fvck yourself as much as you like, it is NOT drama, it is real, and filmed on TV to campaign against Rhino Poaching worldwide.

"The military has been deployed elsewhere in South Africa to tackle the rhino poaching problem, such as in the Israel-sized Kruger National Park, where former special-forces soldiers have also joined the ranks of park rangers."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/11/us-africa-rhinos-poaching-idUSBRE9AA0VH20131111

That is news according to Reuters International, it's no drama ! Special Forces from America are helping the failed South African army and rangers to fight Rhino hunters

The American soldiers are a mix of both retired and currently serving special forces, and they will train South African security forces on bush tactics of which you falsely claim to be 'masters', do soldiers train people for fun? No drama, South Africa is getting help for real.
You CANNOT deceive us here !!!

"Four current and former members of the U.S. Special Ops (Navy SEALs and a Green Beret) have been recruited and brought in to help the security forces. Together, they will survey the situation, train the anti-poaching corps, exchange tactical information and go on the front lines to help defeat these ruthless criminals before the rhinos are brought to total extinction. These "soldiers of extinction" are led by Craig "Saw," team leader, Navy SEAL (fmr.), and includes Jeff "Biggs," sniper, Navy SEAL (fmr.); Rob, intel, Navy SEAL (ret.); and "Oz," medic, Green Beret."

http://press.discovery.com/us/apl/press-releases/2013/us-special-forces-are-south-africas-latest-we-2278/

Then stop lying that they are all retired, currently serving soldiers are among them.

Nation of ANC and it's SANDF mugus are getting schooled by Americans

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Big shame on every South African on this forum.

I wonder how your jobless SANDF gets it's own battle experience without fighting any real big and long sustained war

Nigerian army finally wins the battle of Bama...

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/bama-not-captured-by-boko-haram-says-borno-deputy-governor/188010/

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FighterPilot: THAT'S AN OLD NEWS FROM THE FIRST ATTACK WHICH THEIR ARMY SUCCESSFULLY REPELLED.

agaugust: That's how 99% of South African army will be stuck and immobilized in such a war zone, only your 250 Olifant tanks will move.

Nigerian army will move 1,000 tanks, APCs, and heavy artillery successfully through that terrain.

SANF is a dry land only army
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agaugust: Grenade launcher caliber varies from 20mm to 40mm, the barrel of some will be half the size of others.

Comedian

patches689: Look at this picture

You could barely put a finger down that barrel

And these clowns expect us to beleive they are grenade launchers?

bwa-hahahahaha

btw, i just noticed that the cobra is stuck in the mud....

Henry120: You expect me to reply this again, I'm just going to repost and continue to repost my comments, as you do same.






You begged U.S navy commandos to come help you with common Rhino poachers, despite your lazy special forces and limousine airforce been deployed.

- your irresponsible soldiers regularly mutiny and carry out strikes.

- your country fled C.A.R in defeat at the hands of kids and farmers.

- and you top the murder capital of the world.
http://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2014/jun/24/10-world-cities-highest-murder-rates-homicides-in-pictures

- your government negotiated and gave up all their land to terrorists.

- 11% of the minority white population, run 85% of the economy.

Henry120: Patches689, Andrweza and Mikeza, you guys had to beg U.S navy commandos to help you deal with common poachers, WOW.

You even allowed foreigners bear Automatic weapons on your lands, shameless.

What about your limousine Airforce?

Your retirement home army? This is pathetic, a new record for an all new low for you guys.

As for Mikeza, he just keeps lowering his very low standards like a pilotless train.

LOL


I'll catch up with you guys later, and respond to the lies the south-africans continue to tell to themselves on this platform.

agaugust: No ! Kruger Park ! South African government owned reserve land !

American soldiers arrived and are HELPING the failed SANDF 'Bush War Experienced Soldiers In Their Own Homeland Bush'.

"The world renowned Greater Kruger area of South Africa, just north of Johannesburg, is the new ground zero in a war to protect magnificent creatures on the edge of extinction. Rhinoceroses are being hunted to death by poachers who will stop at nothing to kill them just to take their horns. The death toll is astonishing; each year, nearly 700 rhinos are killed with baby rhinos and calves separated from their mothers and left to fend on their own. The human toll too is steep. More than 100 park rangers have been killed by these poachers in the battle to halt these criminals. The situation is worsening. Park rangers and security forces are desperate for help. And now four U.S. Special Forces veterans have come to help fight for the rhinos.

Four current and former members of the U.S. Special Ops (Navy SEALs and a Green Beret) have been recruited and brought in to help the South African security forces. "

http://press.discovery.com/us/apl/press-releases/2013/us-special-forces-are-south-africas-latest-we-2278/



PHOTO : AMERICAN SOLDIERS IN SOUTH AFRICA TO SAVE SANDF AND THE SOUTHIE NATION FROM BUSHMEN HUNTERS




https://www.channelguidemagblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Rhino-Wars.jpg

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American Special Forces Arrive To Save Defeated SANDF In Kruger Park Rhino War


http://www.hlntv.com/slideshow/2013/03/07/rhino-wars-animal-planet-navy-seals-green-berets

http://greenglobaltravel.com/2013/03/18/rhino-poaching-in-south-africa-rhino-wars/

http://press.discovery.com/us/apl/press-releases/2013/us-special-forces-are-south-africas-latest-we-2278/

Foreign military intervention to fight bush animal hunters in South Africa !

WTF !!!


https://greenglobaltravel.com/wp-content/uploads/Picture-14.png

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patches689: They are there for border control in operation corona and only provide assistance if called upon by rangers

It's not a military operation so your post is completely irrelevant

Also we are better at protecting rhino than you are at protecting your own people

How many rhino have we lost this year?
How many people have you lost this year?

Yeah I thought so