DFemaleBoss: I'm not gonna indulge you bc it's now crystal clear that you do this for a living(you're being paid).
The way you're running helter skelter all over nairaland like a lost sheep shows the pressure from your oga at the top but guess what you're insignificant and shout from now till thy kingdom come, it would amount to nothing cos you don't even count.
Whoever that's paying you clearly overestimated you. I bet your father, mother, bros/sis and even kids, if you have any are even hardcore Biafrans.
Give it up bro before you lose it completely. Lmao
ain't it obvious? we are winning more people to our side everyday. as the days go by, the emotional slab is clearing from people's brains and they are now beginning to reason independently.
If there was ever a time my region needs me, it's now.
okeyley: please naijapips02 if persons do not buy your idea respect it we are all adults we know the truth if Ireland after more than five decades a poor nation could develop with there meagre resources that Britain now envy think about Biafra nke anyi bu nkeanyi.... kwado nkeanyi abunna onye iron
Agaghi akwado ihe n'emezighi ofuma. O buru na anyi ga enwe Biafra, anyi kwesiri take time, chemaa ya eche. Put things on ground and prepare for whatever outcome. Ireland didn't
The 1614 overthrow of the Catholic majority in the Irish Parliament was realised principally through the creation of numerous new boroughs which were dominated by the new settlers. By the end of the seventeenth century, recusants (as adherents to the older religion were now termed), representing some 85% of Ireland's population, were then banned from the Irish Parliament. Protestant domination of Ireland was confirmed after two periods of war between Catholics and Protestants in 1641-52 and 1689-91. Political power thereafter rested entirely in the hands of a Protestant Ascendancy minority, while Catholics and members of dissenting Protestant denominations suffered severe political and economic privations under the Penal Laws. The Irish Parliament was abolished from 1 January 1801 in the wake of the republican United Irishmen Rebellion and Ireland became an integral part of a new United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland under the provisions of the Acts of Union 1800. Although promised a repeal of the Test Act, Catholics were not granted full rights until Catholic Emancipation was attained throughout the new UK in 1829. This was followed by the first Reform Act 1832, a principal condition of which was the removal of the poorer British and Irish freeholders from the franchise.
The Irish Parliamentary Party strove from the 1880s to attain Home Rule through the parliamentary constitutional movement, eventually winning the Home Rule Act 1914, although this Act was suspended at the outbreak of World War I. The Easter Rising staged by republicans two years later brought physical force republicanism back to the forefront of Irish politics.
Ireland was a previously independent country, with a central government, conquered by Britain. Is Biafra same?
DonSapientia: Your points has been noted. I smell fear all over it: fear of the unknown. Americans didn't entertain any fear and they were able to conquer Mars and the moon. Igbos are naturally proud and likes competition. What made you think that Igbos ingenuity won't take them to greater height we always have retrogressive thoughts and allow permissiveness take control of our destiny.
going from Nigeria to Biafra is retrogression. Our Jewish brothers are fighting tooth and nail to win Moe territories and we are fighting too and nail to enclave our region. If we should be competing against anyone, it's Hausa - fulani and not ourselves.
NAIJASOM: If only online rant was enough to stop the Biafran movement....Some people think that countering biafran comments online is enough to stop the movement...Delusional. What couldn't be done with guns in the past is being fought with keyboard and mouse....again Delusional
The madman deluded you all with radio knobs and keyboard. and we would use the same mediums to cure your craziness.
lawrenceunaa: he that calls his brother a fool, is a fool. Nobody is forcing anybody if eventually biafra comes be ready to stay back in nigeria :nobody needs u
we cannot sit back and watch you guys destroy our region.....mbanu.
We Need Good Leadership In The South East Not Biafra by Crazyman - A Rebuttal
Thank you for finding time to comment on the on going agitation in the SE by IPOB. Your opinions are wonderful yet intrinsically individual, know that you are an easterner. But your line of criticism is akin to what is obtainable at a bus stop after a Barca - Bayern game. Nwanne, okwu ana aso anya anaghi ebi gbooo.
Lets take a look at your postulations:-
* Do Biafra need ''powerful'' Igbo leaders to succeed? Can you kindly cast more light on that word powerful? Do you know what a generation mean? Have you heard about breaking the jinx? Why not speak for yourself as an incapacitated being who is unable to change his situation? Everyone cannot have your line thinking.
You need some tutorials about revolution. Zik, Awolowo, Balewa, Enahoro et al, were they ''powerful'' in the colonial days? Were they Emirs, Obas, Obis, VC's Ministers, Entrepreneurs during the struggle for Nigerian independence? How did they win? The so called powerful Igbo leaders are not key to the struggle.
If not for the fact that you are one of the faceless entities on Nairaland.com, i would have offered you a copy of Mandela's Long Walk To Freedom for your perusal. Before his incarceration, he was just a member of ANC's youth wing. He was never among the top ranking members of ANC yet he changed the history of South Africa. If you are given South African visa now, you will host a thanksgiving service before jetting out of the country.
Yes, Zik, Awolowo, Balewa, Ahmadu Bello were powerful in the colonial days. The were among the very few educated/enlightened Nigerians we had in those days. Emirs and Obas couldn't fight for independence cos most were grossly uneducated/enlightened. Zik for instance was the leader of Nigeria's foremost political party; National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons (NCNC) alongside Herbert Macaulay in 1944. Same with almost all the other leaders of the Nationalistic movements. Now the question is, How many leaders of political parties, top politician, Top Igbo technocrats are supporting your movement?
Let still go down a bit. What were the nationalist fighting for? Colonialism. Another man from another continent governing you and making you a slave in your own land. No matter how hard you try, you can never govern yourself. Now is it the same with what we have in the Nigeria of today? Does the average igbo man have the chance to govern Nigeria if he tried? Are the Igbos in Leadership Positions as we speak? Are igbos not or haven't being in top political posts in Nigeria? I need you to answer these questions.
* Jobs are created. They are not oil that is just drilled and sold. You mentioned government agencies that will relieve Biafrans of their current positions at the emergence of Biafra. Your common sense never told you that there will be similar parastatals in Biafra? Do you realise that Biafra is a country? Whatever office and trappings of officialdom you may have seen in Nigeria will also be in BIafra with excellent modifications. You wrote about Exodus and its likely consequences. The exodus you witness every december in Igboland during december period, who takes care of it? Today, Lagos as a city ticks. Why if i may ask? Its only an issue of population and nothing else. One Biafra is flooded with returnees, meeting their daily needs is the business that empower and employ people worldwide. But what percentage of Igbos do you have in government employment? Igbos are more of productive and functional entrepreneurs. After all in Nigeria the Igbos created their empires via independent input and subsequently pays tax to the FG. Don't worry, Biafrans will never miss Nigeria.
You cannot build a country on NOTHING. Do you know how long it would take a Biafra to get to put those offices in place. And using what revenue to set them up and get them running? What are your plans for revenue? Or do you still think Nigeria would be sending you monthly allowances if you get your biafra?
The igbo business, most of the time, is sustained by Nigeria. If there were ever going to be a Biafra, those Nigerian contacts would be lost. It would be very cheaper and easier for Nigerians to do business with ghana than biafra.
* SE is not impoverished. We are doing better than many states in the west and north. Anambra has a better road network than Lagos state. You may not know all this unless you are a frequent traveller and can compare and contrast. Our town unions help the state government extensively in core developmental projects. You can get to any part of Anambra in thirty miniutes on a good road. Among the Igbos, when there is no light, generator are always standing by. Do we lack well equipped primary and secondary schools in South East yet Imo state has the highest number of professors in Nigeria? [refer to NUC]. In the national school enrollment and graduation index, all Igbo speaking states except Ebonyi ranks among the first 10. Drinking water - has any Igbo speaking state suffered from any water related epidemic? O no na ndo fu onwa no n'igwe. I love this quotation of yours ''It is time for the Igbo youth to come together and reverse the trend of ubiquitious leadership ravishing Igboland and put a system that would enable the best of us emerge as leader'' This dream of yours is what Biafra has come to achieve. The process has begun with non-violent protest championed by those born in Biafra-the youths!
If SE is not improvised, what then is the justification for the call for secession? If we are among the most prospering states in Nigeria, how then are we being marginalized?
* Inability to stand independently. One of African Icons ans Igbo man, Nnamdi Azikiwe-Zik is a classic example to thrash your thinking. He sailed to the Americas empty handed and came back with just knowledge to liberate Nigeria from colonial dominance. Thus, so may Igbos of this age. Are aware that orphans are successes today?
You cannot succeed alone. No man is a forest. No matter how ingenious the igboman might be, He need collaborations. We need partnerships. And Nigeria, offers us most of that, right now.
You painted Ebonyi as a poor state, they must be the least in Igboland. In Biafra, the way Nigeria drilled oil from Niger Delta to develop Lagos, Abuja and host of other states, the excesses of Anambra, Imo, Enugu and Abia states will be used revamp Ebonyi. This and more is what you will see how it will be programmed seamlessly. Tag along with this slogan ...............onye aghala nwanne ya.
How many members of your immediate community have you helped? how many has Nnamdi Kanu helped. Igbo man would always want to prove his superiority even to his brothers. You can never find Anambra state helping Imo state, rather, if there were things coming to imo to make it mightier, you would see a typical anambra man blocking it, to seem to remain on top.
I am Happy you mentioned Rochas as a deviant governor from the SE region for exporting a business that would have been done better at Ariara-Aba to China. He is an ApC governor. Anambra state under Mr. Obi bought more government vehicles from Innoson Motors. Thats the real Igbo signature.
* Dis-unity and inability to make accurate political calculations. Biko, are you a student of Lai Mohammed and Western Nigeria press? Did you think for yourself to come up with this or you are regurgitating what you have been feed? You need some demographic research and tutulage on the characteristics of each of the component make up of Nigeria. Igbos are republican in nature. However, Igbos are no more interested in Nigerian presidency, Biafra is a better option. But how many Jews are presidents in America.
SE without major FG presence has made quantum leap in all areas of life. In this century, they want to use Biafra to show the world that man has solutions to man made challenges. Just give Biafra a chance and you will see that Dubai is a childs play.
It is well evident that we igbos are very selfish. Last governorship primaries in IMO state had almost 24 candidates coming from just one Owerri political zone. An Ngwa man would rather vote for yoruba than vote an umuahia man.....it's the same everywhere.
Blackkie: We Need Good Leadership In The South East Not Biafra by Crazyman - A Rebuttal
Thank you for finding time to comment on the on going agitation in the SE by IPOB. Your opinions are wonderful yet intrinsically individual, know that you are an easterner. But your line of criticism is akin to what is obtainable at a bus stop after a Barca - Bayern game. Nwanne, okwu ana aso anya anaghi ebi gbooo.
Lets take a look at your postulations:-
* Do Biafra need ''powerful'' Igbo leaders to succeed? Can you kindly cast more light on that word powerful? Do you know what a generation mean? Have you heard about breaking the jinx? Why not speak for yourself as an incapacitated being who is unable to change his situation? Everyone cannot have your line thinking.
You need some tutorials about revolution. Zik, Awolowo, Balewa, Enahoro et al, were they ''powerful'' in the colonial days? Were they Emirs, Obas, Obis, VC's Ministers, Entrepreneurs during the struggle for Nigerian independence? How did they win? The so called powerful Igbo leaders are not key to the struggle.
If not for the fact that you are one of the faceless entities on Nairaland.com, i would have offered you a copy of Mandela's Long Walk To Freedom for your perusal. Before his incarceration, he was just a member of ANC's youth wing. He was never among the top ranking members of ANC yet he changed the history of South Africa. If you are given South African visa now, you will host a thanksgiving service before jetting out of the country.
* Jobs are created. They are not oil that is just drilled and sold. You mentioned government agencies that will relieve Biafrans of their current positions at the emergence of Biafra. Your common sense never told you that there will be similar parastatals in Biafra? Do you realise that Biafra is a country? Whatever office and trappings of officialdom you may have seen in Nigeria will also be in BIafra with excellent modifications. You wrote about Exodus and its likely consequences. The exodus you witness every december in Igboland during december period, who takes care of it? Today, Lagos as a city ticks. Why if i may ask? Its only an issue of population and nothing else. One Biafra is flooded with returnees, meeting their daily needs is the business that empower and employ people worldwide. But what percentage of Igbos do you have in government employment? Igbos are more of productive and functional entrepreneurs. After all in Nigeria the Igbos created their empires via independent input and subsequently pays tax to the FG. Don't worry, Biafrans will never miss Nigeria.
* SE is not impoverished. We are doing better than many states in the west and north. Anambra has a better road network than Lagos state. You may not know all this unless you are a frequent traveller and can compare and contrast. Our town unions help the state government extensively in core developmental projects. You can get to any part of Anambra in thirty miniutes on a good road. Among the Igbos, when there is no light, generator are always standing by. Do we lack well equipped primary and secondary schools in South East yet Imo state has the highest number of professors in Nigeria? [refer to NUC]. In the national school enrollment and graduation index, all Igbo speaking states except Ebonyi ranks among the first 10. Drinking water - has any Igbo speaking state suffered from any water related epidemic? O no na ndo fu onwa no n'igwe. I love this quotation of yours ''It is time for the Igbo youth to come together and reverse the trend of ubiquitious leadership ravishing Igboland and put a system that would enable the best of us emerge as leader'' This dream of yours is what Biafra has come to achieve. The process has begun with non-violent protest championed by those born in Biafra-the youths!
* Inability to stand independently. One of African Icons ans Igbo man, Nnamdi Azikiwe-Zik is a classic example to thrash your thinking. He sailed to the Americas empty handed and came back with just knowledge to liberate Nigeria from colonial dominance. Thus, so may Igbos of this age. Are aware that orphans are successes today?
You painted Ebonyi as a poor state, they must be the least in Igboland. In Biafra, the way Nigeria drilled oil from Niger Delta to develop Lagos, Abuja and host of other states, the excesses of Anambra, Imo, Enugu and Abia states will be used revamp Ebonyi. This and more is what you will see how it will be programmed seamlessly. Tag along with this slogan ...............onye aghala nwanne ya.
I am Happy you mentioned Rochas as a deviant governor from the SE region for exporting a business that would have been done better at Ariara-Aba to China. He is an ApC governor. Anambra state under Mr. Obi bought more government vehicles from Innoson Motors. Thats the real Igbo signature.
* Dis-unity and inability to make accurate political calculations. Biko, are you a student of Lai Mohammed and Western Nigeria press? Did you think for yourself to come up with this or you are regurgitating what you have been feed? You need some demographic research and tutulage on the characteristics of each of the component make up of Nigeria. Igbos are republican in nature. However, Igbos are no more interested in Nigerian presidency, Biafra is a better option. But how many Jews are presidents in America.
SE without major FG presence has made quantum leap in all areas of life. In this century, they want to use Biafra to show the world that man has solutions to man made challenges. Just give Biafra a chance and you will see that Dubai is a childs play.
Tpumpin468: Hello my niggas I need your advice I just bought a new car do I need to inform my girlfriend and my friends first cause we don't even stay in the same area....
You would eventually inform them one way or another. Inform your family first. Then tell your GF and buy drinks for your friends.
CrazyMan: Its no longer news hearing the ongoing protests in various part of the SE by the IPOB youths. In as much as I'm of the SE extraction, I want my fellow South Easterners to be rational and objective in their thinking. Biafra shouldn't be our priority now.
The reasons why I'm of the opinion that Biafra shouldn't be our priority are:
1. Most powerful Igbos leaders are against it: Those of us with strong memories would agree with me that Nnamdi Kanu isn't the first person to follow this path.
Years ago during Obasanjo's administration, Mr Ralph Uwazurike the leader of MASSOB attempted something similar. What was the result...he spent years locked up in an underground cell, his members were jailed many are still in jail as we speak, some even lost their precious lives.
The then igbo leaders who even had the senate leadership then did nothing, why cos they weren't ready to relinquish their positions and Federal Government appointments for Uwazurike's movement.
If nothing was done by the SE leaders then, what makes the youths so certain that they'll lift a finger towards their course now considering the fact that most of our leaders are self centered?
2. Thousands and even millions of South Easterners are likely going to be plunged into the job market upon declaration of Biafra: Its most likely that if the biafran dream is actualized today, Igbos working in various Nigerian government parastatals across the federation would automatically loose their job. Starting from Igbos in the military (Army, Airforce and Navy), to Civil Service, to the Nigerian Police Force, NSCDC, Customs, Immigration, FRSC, EFCC, ICPC, The Ministry, Ministers and Senators from the biafran territory will no longer be recognized in the Nigerian Senate, ...etc.
Can we cope with that, noting that the current economy of some SE states isn't something to be proud about, and we can't even secure employment for those living there how much more when you have a mass exodus of people relocating home. How will they survive?
Germany requested for thousands of Syrian refugees because they have a very good economy to settle them in months.
We should understand that if Biafra is declared, a similar mass exodus would be experienced.
Question is do we have a plan to absorb the thousands who probably would be relieved of their duties by the Nigerian Federal Government into the biafran economy and create such parastatals for them with a short period of time so they can work and take care of their families?
These are questions we need to ask ourselves.
3. The SE is improvised: We deserve a good leadership in the SE not biafra: Currently, we lack good roads, we lack constant electricity, we lack well equipped government primary and secondary schools, we lack portable drinking water...etc. Why should secession be our priority?
Few months ago, Afikpo youths comprising of Amasiri, Edda, Uwanna...etc blocked the roads to protest 2years of blackout in Afikpo. (The thread was even on Nairaland) I witnessed that protest live cos I was in Amasiri (Ebotrans park) en route Abakaliki and was delayed by the protesters for over an hour because the whole roads leading to Abakaliki were all blocked.
If Afikpo which is agurably the second largest town with the best economy in Ebonyi state after Abakaliki can be in darkness for 2years, then I think its time for us to go back to the drawing board. Cos we can't expect the biafra economy to survive in darkness.
We should also be bothered about the number of our educated minds finding their way to other geopolitical zones outside the SE in search of greener pastures. That's another indication to tell us that our economy needs serious rehabilitation.
If we're so bent on making biafra a reality then we should beginning to hold our leaders accountable to every promise they made to us during the past elections
Great nations are ruled by great minds not thieves, crooks and heartless looters camouflaging themselves as leaders to enrich their 20th generation.
It is time for the Igbo youths to come together and reverse the trend of ubiquitous leadership ravishing igbo land and put up a system that would enable the best of us emerge as leaders.
Our leaders are our problem, therefore we should direct our aggression towards them. Because even if the biafran dream becomes a reality, I doubt we would survive up to 3years considering the kind of crooks we have as leaders.
We should try to understand that Biafra isn't the solution to the problems we're currently facing in the SE. If we fail to address the issue of bad leadership then biafra will be a case of "Dead On Arrival".
4. Inability to stand Independently: A child only thinks of leaving his parents home to cater for himself when feels he's matured enough to survive independently.
If we're sincere enough, you'll all agree with me that most SE states cannot survive without FG allocation. Currently people in Ebony are experiencing serious hardship. No thanks to the Governor (Dave) who has slashed their salaries for no good reason. Imo state isn't left out of the suffering as state workers there are also experiencing hardship as well.
We have FG allocations yet our Governors cannot pay their workers, and cannot make the state habitable for its people by providing basic amenities. What do you think would happen if the allocation stops?
A few years back when Rochas announced that he wants all secondary schools in imo state to put on a particular school uniform. Yes it was a welcome development to reduce discrimination's amongst schools. But most people frowned at him when he contracted the job to a Chinese company.
Why would a governor contract a job to a Chinese company for billions of naira when there are so many indigenous companies in the SE that would do it for a far lesser amount?
If our leaders are interested in developing the SE why have they refused to invest in the numerous untapped resources in the SE?
Or are they scared that their successors would become the direct benefactors when they leave office?
Isn't that a myopic way of reasoning?
5. Dis-unity and inability to make accurate political calculations: From the 1999 till date, while people of other regions had managed to unite behind their candidate of choice in virtually all elections that had been held, we have always failed to do so.
I wasn't born during the civil war so I have very little knowledge about Ojukwu's acceptance by the general Igbo populace then.
But I remember vividly in 2003 how he (Ojukwu) lost that election in the SE to PDP's Obasanjo. It was recorded that Obasanjo had a thrilling 69.46% of votes from the SE. If we sincerely wanted power that year why didn't we rally round Ojukwu and give him our support like we did during the civil war?
Even when Alex Ekwueme contested the PDP primaries against Obasanjo the same year (2003). That attempt clearly outlined the dis unity amongst our leaders, because most PDP governors of SE states openly campaigned against their own son and supported the same Obsanjo.
Ever since I became knowledgeable of the events happening around me, I've never witnessed any election in Nigeria where we (Igbos) emphatically agreed and produced a candidate of the Igbo extraction acceptable to the whole nation and backed him aggressively. Just as President Buhari was backed by his kinsmen and practically other tribes.
In all the elections however from 1999-till date, we (Igbos) have failed to present a formidable candidate.
We don't even have a formidable political party to start with in the SE. The APGA which was created by Ojukwu has only the governorship seat in Anambra state to boast of.
The North and the SW easily formed an alliance because they had formidable parties they were all loyal to.
My point is that if we cannot determine our political relevance here in Nigeria, we'll keep having problems among ourselves should biafra become a reality.
Solution: We are all Nigerians so we should work towards the growth of this country. To my IPOB brothers, I will say sheath your swords. Don't waste your precious lives, MASSOB has followed that path, and today their members in jail are yet to get justice and those that lost their lives as a result of the struggle have been forgotten. If you die in this struggle you will be forgotten, your name wouldn't even be mentioned anywhere as a hero. Our leaders don't care, their kids are all abroad so when a stray bullet from a happy trigger policeman hits you, you're gone. No justice!
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warrior01: What's balanced there? The whole Nigerian security and Justice apparatus is in the hands of Northerners and you're here jubilation. Where is thou sense?
who is the chief of naval staff? who is the chief of air staff? the hold the security, we hold the economy. is that not balanced?
Politics › Re: We Need Good Leadership In The South East Not Biafra by Crazyman - A Rebuttal by naijapips02: 10:58am On Nov 12, 2015
Kudos.