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Christianity EtcRe: Popular Christians That Converted To Atheism by naijapips02(op): 11:32am On Nov 15, 2015
winner01:
You dont leave a place youve never been.
Anthony Pinn. Anthony Pinn is a professor of religious studies at Rice University and an outspoken expert on African-American humanism. As he explained in a recent speech at Skepticon, he began preaching at the ripe old age of 12, and was ordained at age of 18. His doubts started immediately after he started working as a youth pastor in Bed-Stuy in Brooklyn. Now he has a Ph.D. in religious studies from Harvard and a professorship in Houston, and he’s a blunt and outspoken critic of religion, focusing specifically on religion’s inability to address the concerns of the black community.

Depending on your point of view, Pinn’s acerbic wit and no-holds-barred approach to the discussion of belief versus non-belief is either delightful or offensive. In a recent interview with the Root, Pinn summed up his critique of religion by saying, “I think African Americans are worse off because of their allegiance to theism. The belief in God and gods has not been particularly useful or productive for them. It has lessened their appeal to their own creativity and ingenuity, and in most cases has resulted in a kind of bizarre understanding of suffering as a marker of closeness to God and a mark of divine favor. Nothing good can come out of that.”
Christianity EtcRe: Popular Christians That Converted To Atheism by naijapips02(op): 11:30am On Nov 15, 2015
johnydon22:


Are you in any form of competition with anybody on who deconverted to this or who converted to that?

The position of being atheistic is not a religious position but rather a position of unbelief in God(s) so equating that position with converting to a certain religion is totally uncool and uncalled for.

This is not a competition, people find FAITH people loose it to subscribe to honest skepticism and intellectual honesty and curiosity people also find Faith even after being atheistic, it is a matter of psychological tilt of the subject..

It is not a competition, so i would say this thread was totally unnecessary..
No! i wanted to show him how silly it was to open a thread on who deconverted to what.
Christianity EtcRe: Popular Christians That Converted To Atheism by naijapips02(op): 11:29am On Nov 15, 2015
Richirich713:
No u can distinguished according to ur views but it's only going to be ur opinion.
Christianity EtcRe: Popular Christians That Converted To Atheism by naijapips02(op): 11:23am On Nov 15, 2015
johnydon22:
Seriously whats the meaning of this thread?
in response to winner01's allusive thread on atheist converting to Christianity.
Christianity EtcRe: Popular Christians That Converted To Atheism by naijapips02(op): 11:06am On Nov 15, 2015
Richirich713:
And then wat should we judge man's actions on?

How do we know what is good and what is not?
You would know good when you see it....trust me.
Christianity EtcRe: Popular Christians That Converted To Atheism by naijapips02(op): 10:59am On Nov 15, 2015
Richirich713:
Honestly I never even knew he was a atheist, It just shows people don't care wat he believe or thinks, they just watch his movies.
Yeah. Religion or the lack of it shouldn't form any pedestal with which to judge our fellow humans. A good man is a good man, whether atheist or muslim.
Christianity EtcRe: Popular Christians That Converted To Atheism by naijapips02(op): 10:41am On Nov 15, 2015
Richirich713:
and after they converted no none care what they thought anymore, for just like all atheists, they will be forgotten.

But jesus will remain the most influential person to ever live.
Really?

Do you know Brad Pitt before or after he became an atheist? angry
Christianity EtcRe: Popular Christians That Converted To Atheism by naijapips02(op): 10:14am On Nov 15, 2015
5 Religious Leaders Who Gave Up the Faith and Became Outspoken Atheists and Agnostics
1) Dan Barker. Religion was a major part of Dan Barker’s life for more than two decades. He became an evangelical Christian in his early teens and entered a career as a preacher who specialized in spreading the Christian faith through music. He wrote popular religious children’s musicals, worked heavily with Christian singer Manuel Bonilla, and accompanied many other famous Christian musicians.

Over the years, however, Barker’s reading caused him to start to doubt the truth not just of Christianity, but claims of God altogether. In 1984, he publicly came out as an atheist. Since then, Barker has become a prominent atheist leader and author, writing two books about his journey and working with the Clergy Project and the Freedom From Religion Foundation. Despite his past--or because of it--Barker shows no reticence in criticizing his former faith. “How happy can you be when you think every action and thought is being monitored by a judgmental ghost?” he asks, while affirming rationalism as the surer path to a happy existence.

2) Jerry DeWitt. For some, leaving religion exacts a high price. Jerry DeWitt lost his faith after 25 years in the Pentecostal ministry in Bible Belt rural America. DeWitt, who was converted at age 17 in Jimmy Swaggart’s church, hung onto his religion as long as he could, but finally could no longer hide his lack of belief.

While he found a welcoming community among atheists, particularly through the Clergy Project (devoted to helping ministers who have lost their faith) and the group Recovering From Religion, DeWitt still faced many practical concerns as a result of his deconversion. As recounted in a profile for the New York Times, DeWitt lost his job, his wife, and much of his connection to his community in his hometown of DeRidder, LA. While he is getting back on his feet with his work at Recovering From Religion and a grant from the Clergy Project, DeWitt’s story shows that for many atheists, the price for being true to your conscience remains high.

3) Teresa MacBain. Teresa MacBain described to NPR the hell that is continuing to serve as a minister after losing your faith in God: “I start having stomachaches, headaches, just knowing that I got to stand up and say things that I no longer believe in and portray myself in a way that's totally false.”

MacBain continued to serve as a minister despite having concluded that she didn’t believe in no small part because she feared the economic devastation that would follow if she didn’t have her job as a minister any longer. Eventually, with moral support from the Clergy Project, she moved on to become an outspoken atheist and the executive director of Humanists of Florida.

MacBain describes a lifetime of squelching doubts, going back to her adolescence, when she noticed the internal contradictions in the Bible. Despite decades of trying to ignore her doubts, her inherent nature as a questioner eventually came out. She described her deconversion to American Atheist Magazine: “I didn’t want to lose my faith. I didn’t want to change or stop believing, but I wanted truth more!”

4) Anthony Pinn. Anthony Pinn is a professor of religious studies at Rice University and an outspoken expert on African-American humanism. As he explained in a recent speech at Skepticon, he began preaching at the ripe old age of 12, and was ordained at age of 18. His doubts started immediately after he started working as a youth pastor in Bed-Stuy in Brooklyn. Now he has a Ph.D. in religious studies from Harvard and a professorship in Houston, and he’s a blunt and outspoken critic of religion, focusing specifically on religion’s inability to address the concerns of the black community.

Depending on your point of view, Pinn’s acerbic wit and no-holds-barred approach to the discussion of belief versus non-belief is either delightful or offensive. In a recent interview with the Root, Pinn summed up his critique of religion by saying, “I think African Americans are worse off because of their allegiance to theism. The belief in God and gods has not been particularly useful or productive for them. It has lessened their appeal to their own creativity and ingenuity, and in most cases has resulted in a kind of bizarre understanding of suffering as a marker of closeness to God and a mark of divine favor. Nothing good can come out of that.”

5) Andrew Johnson. In the Mormon faith, young men must demonstrate their right to inherit the priesthood by going on a missionary trip to spread their faith to the non-believers. For Andrew Johnson, however, going on a missionary trip made him a non-believer. The time away from home made it easier to research literature (including Richard Dawkins' instant classic, The God Delusion) that spoke to his doubts about God.

Johnson has since put that famous Mormon work ethic to the task of helping other ex-Mormon atheists find community and support, creating a club called Atheists of Utah Valley. “I thought I was the only one,” Johnson said, but his work organizing atheists in the atheist-unfriendly Mormon region of Utah has conclusively demonstrated that atheists are turning up, and thriving, in every corner of this country.

These are just a sampling of the stories happening every day in this country as people who aren’t just believers but leaders in their various faith communities are losing their faith and turning to secular humanism to find the answers to life's big questions. The Clergy Project, an organization devoted to helping members of the clergy who no longer believe, has over 200 members, despite its rather recent founding. Now that atheists are organizing and making their presence known more than ever before, the ranks of religious leaders who no longer believe and want to come out is only likely to keep growing.

http://www.alternet.org/belief/5-religious-leaders-who-gave-faith-and-became-outspoken-atheists-and-agnostics

cc winner01
Christianity EtcPopular Christians That Converted To Atheism by naijapips02(op): 10:11am On Nov 15, 2015

PoliticsRe: Pro Nigeria Igbos ONLY by naijapips02: 5:35am On Nov 15, 2015
ernesty20:
of course northaners were united to an extent that nobody came out openly to speak against boko haram





now see your miserable life, castigating your brothers just cos they are fighting to better your life.

People can reason through their anus shaa
Yeah. same way boko haram is bettering the North right now. Ewu Gambia
PoliticsRe: Pro Nigeria Igbos ONLY by naijapips02: 10:11pm On Nov 14, 2015
ernesty20:
u are a bad blood to igbo nation.

U are one of the few ass lickers who give yoruba people a reason to think that igbos are not united.

Your father!!!!!!
If supporting a caustic movement is what would demand my loyalty....Then I would never give it. The north were united for BH. look where's got them.

You are the one arse - licking an albino troll without thinking with your own God given brain.

Ewu kotima.
PoliticsRe: Pro Nigeria Igbos ONLY by naijapips02: 9:58pm On Nov 14, 2015
ernesty20:
mumu.. Can u say all this when u meet those protesters? Let them castrate u.

Useless bastard!!!
Sorry, I Don't reason with mad men.
PoliticsRe: Pro Nigeria Igbos ONLY by naijapips02: 8:54pm On Nov 14, 2015
paramakina202:
Sometimes I wonder if you are a human or Chinese toy.
grin grin grin grin grin

thread closed. People wicked sha.
PoliticsRe: Pro Nigeria Igbos ONLY by naijapips02: 8:41pm On Nov 14, 2015
Truckpusher:
We won't shoot you - We will simply tell your slave masters up North that their subject is at it again and of course you know the outcome. grin
oil is lurking in the chad basins. Very soon, 'our oil' would not count for much. if you like , don't develop your region now that you have the chance. Keep screaming 'our oil'.
PoliticsRe: Pro Nigeria Igbos ONLY by naijapips02: 8:23pm On Nov 14, 2015
pazienza:
I see, you have recovered from the punches you received here:https://www.nairaland.com/2734861/exposed-fellow-igbo-man-claiming

Why are you ashamed of your ethnic group? It can't be that bad, even Somalis are proud of Somalia. Nawao!
i know you won't sleep peacefully tonight. Most of the igbos are too wise to join your IPOB madness. You zombies are getting smaller by the day and very soon, this your zombie fever would die down just like others before it.

ONE NIGERIA.
Death to Biafra.
PoliticsRe: Pro Nigeria Igbos ONLY by naijapips02: 8:13pm On Nov 14, 2015
pazienza:
Lol! The thread is a joke.

A Yoruba man too ashamed of his Yoruba ethnic group, do we blame him? grin I would do the same, and an Ijaw man too ashamed of his Ijaw ethnic group( though this one is beyond me, no need to deny being Ijaw, I understand denying being an Oduanistan) famzing each other, while hiding under anonymous ethnic group venner. grin grin
this yoruba crap is old na. Can't you guys be innovative. Must you always show that you are zombies?
PoliticsRe: Pro Nigeria Igbos ONLY by naijapips02: 8:09pm On Nov 14, 2015
Truckpusher:
Na who get this Nkita Bayelsa? grin grin
yeah. that too. We made Yenegoa what it is today. Ewu Kotima.
PoliticsRe: Pro Nigeria Igbos ONLY by naijapips02: 8:04pm On Nov 14, 2015
wisdomguy4u:
What is the truth?
that you are a zombie. cheesy

PoliticsRe: Pro Nigeria Igbos ONLY by naijapips02: 8:00pm On Nov 14, 2015
Truckpusher:
Hehe....I'm just here to witness an all Igbo civil war while playing the mercenary to keep them off our borders considering their expansionist tendencies. grin grin
nobody wants anything to do with your silly borders. The igbos have being feeding SS for like forever. Igboland, without oil, is far better than SS with all the oil that it has.
PoliticsRe: Pro Nigeria Igbos ONLY by naijapips02: 7:58pm On Nov 14, 2015
DFemaleBoss:
All the brownies claiming Igbo will be "masturbating" on this silly thread tonight.
Baboons and monkeys in the zoo. Lmao

PoliticsRe: Pro Nigeria Igbos ONLY by naijapips02: 7:56pm On Nov 14, 2015
wisdomguy4u:
Seriously, bro, how old are you?

Your thinking faculty is damn low.

You want to quench the agitation completely with what? Your intestine?
it all started with misinformation and would be quenched with the correct information...the TRUTH. Nothing conquers the TRUTH.
PoliticsRe: Pro Nigeria Igbos ONLY by naijapips02: 7:51pm On Nov 14, 2015
Rose2014:
Why not focus on the problems plaguing your home state?
What's your business with Biafra?

PoliticsRe: Pro Nigeria Igbos ONLY by naijapips02: 7:50pm On Nov 14, 2015
Truckpusher:
That guy runs with a caveman's ethnocentric mentality that can only be cured with one fine shot to the forehead.

And of course, clean up anything that reminds the world of his existence - He's an Adolph Hitler inside his head and should be nipped in the bud.
shocked o boy na so you wicked reach?
PoliticsRe: Pro Nigeria Igbos ONLY by naijapips02: 7:45pm On Nov 14, 2015
Rose2014:
See this Benue guy again claiming "our region"
It's official, You have no shame

PoliticsRe: Pro Nigeria Igbos ONLY by naijapips02: 7:23pm On Nov 14, 2015
Henry22:
osu mia gi onu ebahu......is ur type that they easily bribe with dirty money, so all this things that they are doing to the ibo nation and its brothers down SS is ok by u right.........is only a slow poke that the way you are acting right now.
brother, what have they done to us? Gbaa mu ukwu n'eze.
PoliticsRe: Pro Nigeria Igbos ONLY by naijapips02:
Simple. Attack all their lies and propaganda with the truth.

They've called me all sort of name, but i will never stay by and watch my region thrown into perpetual retrospection all because of some silly zombies that've had their oblongatas amputated by a radio knob.

Our region needs us the most now. We either speak up or suffer the consequences.

PoliticsRe: Israelis Gather To Commemorate The Arrival Of The Biblical Eri In Anambra by naijapips02: 6:57pm On Nov 14, 2015
anigbogukelvin:
History suggest our lineage to Isreal. No wonder only Christianity most suits our being.
Israelis are not Christians. angry
CelebritiesRe: Fans Blast Phyno For Asking Them To Pray For Paris by naijapips02: 6:40pm On Nov 14, 2015
Shut up and pray for paris. You don't pay back evil with Evil. show that you are above petty grievances. It's human lives we are talking about here people.

My Heart goes out to the families that lost loved ones in the Attacks.

Death to Religious Lunatics.
PoliticsRe: Syrian Passport At Paris Attack Scene Belonged To Asylum Seeker by naijapips02: 6:15pm On Nov 14, 2015
sinkhole:
A Syrian passport found by police at
the scene of the mass shooting in a
Paris concert hall belonged to an
asylum seeker who registered on a
Greek island in October, a Greek
minister said Saturday.
“We confirm that the Syrian passport
holder came through the Greek island
of Leros on October 3 where he was
registered under EU rules,” said a
statement issued by Nikos Toskas, the
minister for citizen protection.
French police said the document was
found “near the body of one of the
attackers” in the investigation into the
main attack of Friday’s carnage, at the
Bataclan concert hall, where 82
people were killed.
The authenticity of the passport was
being checked, but its discovery
indicates a possible Syrian connection
which was a working hypothesis for
investigators after assailants hit six
separate locations in Paris.

www.linkis.com/www.vanguardngr.com/yoIut
Islmas-are-bad
PoliticsRe: Why Kanu's Biafra Will Likely Succeed by naijapips02: 6:09pm On Nov 14, 2015
carnegiefan:
Most spiritually illiterate people can't understand who God is, and how he sees this earth.
To understand God better, you need to study the character of DAVID whom God called a "man after my own heart".
God is not human.
David was once a rebel running from cave to cave, fleeing from Buhari Saul.
Well, we know how the story ended.
yeah. same way shekau can be the man after His heart. God is really mysterious.
PoliticsRe: Why Kanu's Biafra Will Likely Succeed by naijapips02: 6:01pm On Nov 14, 2015
carnegiefan:
The reason is simple: Nnamdi Kanu has aligned Biafra with the interest of the greatest power in the universe -THE Most High/Master Creator.

Kanu wakes up every day (some times twice daily) to invoke, worship, thank, exalt, and generally pray to the Most High, to the hearing of millions of people worldwide via radio Biafra. In doing so, he aligned Biafra with God (for the first time I must say), and makes Biafra's emancipation God's business.

In all his broadcasts, he often said that no human can make Biafra's actualization possible, that only God can do it. He says that is why he is not approaching anybody to help Biafra, because he does not want any human being to take the glory after God had performed his wonders.

He specifically rejects any glory for himself, because he said it would be tantamount to a grave sin against the would-be savior of Biafra when Biafra emerges free. Kanu states repeatedly that the Biafra struggle is not for everybody in Eastern Nigeria; that the struggle is for those who were born for it - "Those born to do this". Kanu stated that God specifically asked him to do what he is doing or he will run mad. According to Kanu, God asked whether he could do the following: (1) Speak truth at all times (2) Be fearless before enemies.
He accepted the challenge only after he took time to examine himself.

Now, I am a child of God who has had the privilege of seeing God in action on the global stage just from a prayer of a righteous man.
For the Christians among us, I would refer you to James 5:16, part b (The effectual Prayer of a righteous man availeth much).
By "righteousness", God means obedient to his will and command. Won't go further with the Bible here.

Israel is a feared country, not because of her military might, but because of the forces that lines up to defend Israel whenever necessary.
Russia is in Syria today, but the Russians have had to severally assure and reassure Israel that Russia will not tilt the strategic balance in the middle east against Israel. Why is Russia mindful of antagonizing Israel?? The simple reason is that the Russians are spiritually literate, and know who the real defender of Israel is. They don't want to antagonize that power, because that power is NOT human.

I already see the hand of God descending on Nigeria like a tonne of bricks for the unlawful detention of a man who worships him DAILY to the hearing of millions of people worldwide. An ordinary rich human being would make life hell for anybody who victimizes his servant (or even his praise-singer). Now imagine what God will do to anybody who is stopping Kanu from his daily worships.

Already, leading countries of the world who BTW are spiritually discerning, are already baulking at the idea of selling Nigeria arms, knowing fully well that those arms will be used against Biafrans later. No one wants to attract God's anger to his nation.

Only the spiritually literate will understand what I'm saying here.

Ojukwu's Biafra failed mainly because Ojukwu was almost agnostic.

Kanu will succeed because he is spiritually discerning and has cleverly aligned Biafra with the interest of THE Most High.

Watch events from now on and be marveled.
Exactly. He was praying to chukwu okike abiama in the hotel room, singing kumbaya with the two yorrobarr girls that ratted him out.

Yes, Even Chioma amaralys, and the other girls he rapes would affirm the fact that he says the rosary before raping them.
PoliticsRe: Biafra: We Are Igbos – Says Asari Dokubo (see Video) by naijapips02: 5:35pm On Nov 14, 2015
xtrorse:
And that's the more reason why you and your people need to go back to Agriculture and concentrate in this area of strength.
In so doing you make your region cum Nation the food basket of the world.

So be proud to seek a separate existence.
i wish my people had the massive arable lands to farm on. Agriculture is the future, not oil.

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