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TayserMahiri:
Bruh, we can go with their logic and conclude that Kibera is a wealthy surburb because it is close to the CBD.

According to his logic - yeah, that makes sense..................and Karen is a very poor neighborhood since it's very far from the CBD.

TayserMahiri:


Nowe has a knack for nonsense. He wants nothing except you show him Kibera which will make him very happy. Nice one

I already observed that sometime back. lol.

Natural01:
Bull shit, you misstated Surulere is crappy, obvious you don't know facts

SURULERE

Surulere was beaten hands down by Langata until No-ones-anus started complaining. We are past that now. Don't take us back.

Nowenuse:
Don't tell me that you have given up on your search for modern cheaper houses in Langata already?
Come on, you can do better

I am still waiting! Lol

Langata gave Surulere an ass whooping. Why are you forcing Langata to be like Surulere? I realized Surulere is too crappy to compete Langata. Sulurele's match in Nairobi is Umoja since they're both low class. I have posted photos of Umoja above - check them out. Those houses are way better than those of Sulurele yet way cheaper

Now that you've agreed Surulere is crappy and not worthy of comparison with Langata, let me show you where low class Kenyans live.
Umoja, Nairobi
https://cdn-travel.jumia.com/web_hotel_detail_gallery/oloiboni-hotel-28151-67ed19a6abab2b450165fc5a444400a41aadad9e.jpeg
[img]https://www.the-star.co.ke/sites/default/files/styles/new_full_content/public/465760.jpg?itok=u-RsZWZn[/img]
https://static-tuko.akamaized.net/0fgjhs6g9r3uvivrg.676b0e20.png
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5594/14886079015_02444eeb4e_b.jpg

That's our low class up there.

Nowenuse:
Kibera is not part of langata but since it is neighbouring to Langata and was carved out of Langata, that means they share amenities and rescources.

I for instance, do not register or vote in my local ward. I vote in the neighbouring ward because it is more convenient for me.

So, due to the overwhelmingly large population of Kibera (of course, as the largest slum in Africa) , it is normal for many Kiberans to choose to vote in Langata for convenience. Or are you trying to deny the people of Kibera their rights as Nairobians proper? . Afterall they form the largest bloc of Nairobians and deserve more.

So these Kiberans outnumber the Langata voters numerically by far. This tells us of the emptiness of Langata and the populous nature of Kibera.

Or do you have another explanation or lie to tell as usual?

Please stop talking about things you don't understand. You are already clueless about things right under your nose - stop trying to be an expert on things 5000km away from you.

Nowenuse:
First of all, the only slum in Lagos is Makoko. So I don't know what slums you are talking of that I showed.

If you have any senses upstairs you should read my statement again. I said typically 'low middleclass and low income'. It was a mixed statement. Or have low middleclass and low income become synonymous to you?
The drone mostly shows the low middleincome areas or would you call those cramped up houses high-middle income? or where did you see me say that Surulere is exclusively for poor people?

Yeah, I said you should show me the lovely houses of Kenya because you people were calling Nigerian houses box houses and claiming that Kenyan houses were better looking. This was never because I wanted to brag about Nigerian houses. Or have you ever seen any Nigerian here bragging about our houses being better?

Your problem is that you think that you can conclude on people's thoughts and aims. So, you try to conclude and force words into people's mouths.
How the hell did you know my aim? You must be a comic character.

1. 80% of Lagos is a slum. You must be out of your mind to think only Makoko is a slum in Lagos. This for instance is not Makoko, it is Ajegunle.
https://bailiffafrica.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/dustbin_estate_06.jpg

2. If you meant typical low class and showed us your typical middle class then you're a liar. You wanted to paint a glories picture of your low class but we caught you.

3. People who are not stupid like you can accurately guess your intentions based on what you say.

Nowenuse:
These are new modern houses in Surulere below and their costs.
Can you show me modern 3 bedroom appartment houses in Langata as cheap as this. I am waiting!

Surulere is crappy. You can't compare it with Langata.

Nowenuse:
Can you please show me one sentence where I bragged about the decency of Surulere houses?
I dare you to show me one single sentence where I bragged about the decency of Surulere.
Your failure to do this confirms you as a complete nincompoop!

How man times should I show you? lol.

Nowenuse:
NairobiWalker, rvp20182.

I am waiting for your adorable Kenyan middle and low income suburbs.

This is Surulere, a large suburb of Lagos. We know they are box houses. This is where typical low middleclass and low income Nigerians live.
Let's see that of Kenya.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1-Y4EXfY-k

BTW, Check out your video more carefully - it doesn't include those slums in Surulere because your aim was to convince us your poor people live in those nice houses. The slums only came in after you realized I am exposing you.

Nowenuse:
Since you know that Karen is high income, why the hell did you include it in your Langata constituency of 223km² which you were bragging about?
You think we will not discover your usual lies right?

The last pic is not a slum. It has some levels of sanitation. The houses there are not temporary illegal structures like those of Kibera & Mathare.
These houses enjoy pipe borne water and modern toilet facilities irrespective of how poor they look!
Only an slowpoke will call an apartment-styled house on a numbered street with pipe borne water and modern toilet and kitchen pipe facilities a slum.

If you have any senses upstairs compare Mathare to the neighborhood below. Can't you see how you are embarrassing yourself on Africa's largest forum?

Didn't you include the higher income regions of Surulere too? I'm just playing your tune man since you're a retarded prick seeking to massage your ego. You brought here a tiny region in Lagos that constitutes a wide range of neighborhoods beginning with expensive high end neighborhoods to downright slums thinking that's something worth bragging of and I brought you Langata - a massive region ten times the size of Surulere with a range of neighborhoods ranging from one of the richest neighborhoods on the continent to middle class. When you realized you can't compete you started focussing on low middle class which we also posted you photos of Tena, Umoja, Kariobangi, Buruburu, Donholm etc which you conveniently choose to ignore in your frustrated rants.

Nowenuse:
Your ignorance and lack of comprehension is your problem.

The cheapest 3 bedroom flat I could find in Madaraka estate was worth 480,000 shillings (approx 1.7 million naira) per annum,
While the cheapest 3 bedroom flats in Surulere were half and less than 1/3 the price of Madaraka.

Who is the fool here now? And like I told you, only mostly the newer modern houses in Surulere are available for rent online. There are many more cheaper ones as you can see in the lower income areas which dominate Surulere.

So, can you pls show me cheaper 3 bedroom flats in Madaraka to prove yourself? or forever shut your buccal shithole!

Actually I am the one who noted and said that point lol. You're too dumb to realize these kind of things.

You're definitely the fool here if you've started usurping whatever I said and claiming it's you who said it. Goes ahead to explain you aren't so proud of your dumbness and you actually admire my brilliance.

NairobiWalker:
1. You don't understand the meaning of the word suburb.

2. You don't understand the meaning of the word estate.

3. I said you showed us 'nicer' houses first. nicer is a comparative adjective. Maybe your shitty Nigerian schools didn't teach you that.

4. You googled prices of houses in Nairobi West which definitely gave you the more expensive ones since it's the newer houses whose rent you'll easily find online. I also did the same for surulere. It's interesting how somehow you feel you exposed me and I didn't expose you. lol.

5. We've shown you neighborhoods that are clearly cheaper than the Surulere you showed us. It's interesting how you still insist Sululere is low income and Nairobi West, Madaraka and Lang'ata are high Class. Lol.

You're an idiot.

Nowenuse:
Langata constituency which NairobiWalker boasted to me of being 223km² consists of karen (Is Karen a low middle income area?).
Langata also contains Madaraka estate which is a high middle income estate and not anywhere low middle income or low income. At least he could not provide additonal pictures to me to show that.

He also went to check the prices of houses in Surulere to show me that Surulere is not a low Income area just as I did to him with Madaraka, but I proved him wrong by showing him more and more lower income neighborhoods of Surulere till himself concluded that the majority of Surulere is a slum.
So, help me to ask him, why couldn't he show me more and more pictures of lower income areas of Madaraka or Langata? To prove that indeed it is predominantly lower income area?

Besides let us get the differences between a high income, high middleclass, low middleclass and low income house/neighborhood.

The 1st pic is a high income house in Nigeria
The 2nd pic is high middle income house
The 3rd pic is a low middle income (estate)
The 4th pic is low middle income (street, not an estate)
The 5th pic is a typically low income neighborhood.
Makoko is the only worse place that this in Lagos.

The last pic is a slum lol.

Karen is high income.

The point was, you were boasting that Surulere, which you initially claimed to be a low income area, has more decent housing than Nairobi's low income areas. We showed you Lang'ata whose rent is less than Surulere yet looks better than Surulere by far. You came to your senses and argued that Surulere is a combination of low, high and middle income neighborhoods. I argued that then your argument doesn't hold water since your main argument was to boast how decent your low income earners live considering their's nothing worth boasting about in Surulere since it's a tiny area and majority of its housing is crap. You keep shifting goals to fit your bruised ego lol. Are you so proud of having tiny neighborhoods of mixed decent housing and slums? I have even show you photos of lower earners in Nairobi (Tena, Umoja, Kariobangi etc) but you're just all over yapping.

mtis:
Managing Director of Tinapa Business and Resort, Mr. Ayiba Ayiba said the monorail is in good condition, but not moving because there are no passengers.

“The monorail is in perfect condition; nothing has happened to it but presently there is no patronage. Whenever we have passengers, we call the engineers to fix necessary things. ” he said.

Mr. Ayiba also lamented the epileptic power and water supply that has slowed down activities

Why would they build an electric train with their kind of electricity?

rvp2018:
And those are upperhill roads under construction

Exactly, I even forgot to mention that.

nwoke37:
Let's compare upper hill roads to Uyo. I alredy showed u uyo which u refered to as uniformly slum.

Now let's see upper hill

just outside coco cola headquarters:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/415/19024923181_02b825bff5_b.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/538/18835147959_fca14106aa_b.jpg
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/315/18835171429_f247dd9754_b.jpg
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3914/19024485371_6d70e5c03e_b.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/957/28145966838_c18536c560_b.jpg
https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/SE9/33208845.jpg

ugly,dirty,chaotic roads compared to Uyo. Yes i know there may be a few outliers, there are likely some clean,beautiful streets in Upper hill.

Lets take it from sky level.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4461/37866387452_3f4a1fb9ea_b.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4489/37866388772_acd5bff630_b.jpg

poor landscaping here (remmeber we're comparing to Uyo,not a major Nigerian city) :

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DU8tEjSWsAMzerV.jpg

If u want we can also compare Uyo(lesser known city in Nigeria) to a lesser known city in Kenya if u don't like the comparison to the the great upper hill of Nairobi

You do realize you're comparing photos of highways with little to no pedestrian activity in Uyo with photos of streets in a busy business district in Nairobi do you?

PS...........The Upperhill roads you're posting are still under construction.

254tobby:
He has also forgotten to mention that Kenya has 4 in the top 30 category while Nigeria still has one,their university of ibadan

He is funny

GERALD710:
Alumini of the school at Grade Level

Boss, ni kama ulizalimwa kwa masonko. Sisi tumeanza kushika pesa after campo.

GERALD710:
Since When did Southlands, South C, and Langata become rich areas?SMH!!!If Langata is what you call High class, Lawd, what will you call the apartments in my area and even Westlands is not considered high class either but Middle Class

This guy is funny.............he posts houses that are worth an equivalent of KES 60,000 per month claiming they're low middle class and when I post houses with similar rent he claims mine are high class houses. The guy wants to post photos of middles class in Lagos while we post photos of slums in Nairobi for comparison so that he can massage his bruised ego.

Nowenuse:
You have officially gone mad. Can you show me where I boasted about the decency of Surulere? I proudly posted pictures of poorer areas of Surulere and you said I bragged about decency?
Pls show me where I bragged about the decency of surulere? Show me!

I know that Kenya does not have low income areas. What you have are pure slums in place of low income areas. That's why I wanted you to show me low income areas of Nairobi and not slums.

Now I've seen your problem. You want to post us middle income houses while we post you photos of slums so that you can massage your ego. Lol.

Dude, the photos I posted are of houses cheaper than what you posted. You're making no sense at all. Just accept you've been beaten.

Nowenuse:
Hahahaha, see this mugu.

I can see many highrises and even a sky scapper there. Is that a low income neighborhood?

Try again

Use your common sense. The foreground is Nairobi West - midlle income. The Background is Upperhill, Commercial district.

nwoke37:
Ojulegba is a freaking slum for goodness sake, not the average(middle class)

You do realize you're contradicting your friend.............he posted that video here over five times boasting about how decent Surulere is and how Nairobi middle class estates can't match it. He posted photos of houses with very high rent claiming that's where your middle class and poor live. The houses I'm posting are even cheaper than those he posted.

Nowenuse:
NairobiWalker, rvp20182.

I am waiting for your adorable Kenyan middle and low income suburbs.

This is Surulere, a large suburb of Lagos. We know they are box houses. This is where typical low middleclass and low income Nigerians live.
Let's see that of Kenya.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1-Y4EXfY-k

nwoke37:
That is not a low-income neighborhood...
Try again

But somehow this is a low income neighborhood. Thank you

Nowenuse:
NairobiWalker, rvp20182.

I am waiting for your adorable Kenyan middle and low income suburbs.

This is Surulere, a large suburb of Lagos. We know they are box houses. This is where typical low middleclass and low income Nigerians live.
Let's see that of Kenya.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1-Y4EXfY-k

Nowenuse:
Yes, I am glad that you can show the world how most of the poorest Nigerians live. Can you be proud to show the world the massive slums in which most of the poorest Kenyans live? Hell no.

Compare that picture of the poorest areas of Lagos to Kibera and judge

Theseare not the poorest Nigerians lol. The poorest Nigerians live in areas like Makoko. These are the average Nigerians. Comparable to Kenyans living in places like Langata, Donholm, Buruburu and Nairobi West.

Buruburu
https://www.sde.co.ke/sdemedia/sdeimages/saturday/stdmbsjydepgzsnep.jpg

Nairobi West
[img]https://panoramicdon.files./2013/11/cropped-nairobi.jpg[/img]

Donholm
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5594/14886079015_02444eeb4e_b.jpg

Nowenuse:
KiberaWalker, so, what exactly is your argument right now?


I am still waiting on you to show me the lower income areas of nairobi. Is this the way you are going to evade and chicken out?

No-ones-anus here is Nairobi West. Looks better than Ojuelegba.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/T0KljtPMuA4/maxresdefault.jpg

Nowenuse:
If you cannot show me where I claimed that Surulere was a pure middleclass suburb here on this site, then you are mad.

This was my first comment on Surulere here on this thread, where I claimed that it was mostly a low middleclass and low income area. Can't you read english anymore?

In that case your low income area of Surulere isn't worth any boasting. It's just a typical low income neighborhood in a third world country. Eat back your puke. This is not a neighborhood worth boasting over.
[img]https://2.bp..com/-ToGn-yEnvkg/WtJkrCkYuSI/AAAAAAABim4/dGdWNrMoC4MmOswNDNnuteHDxw75onVbgCLcBGAs/s1600/Screenshot_2018-04-14-20-53-09.png[/img]

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Nowenuse:
You are really high on weed.

I told you that Surulere was a mixed suburb with mostly low middleclass and low income areas, where did I ever say Surulere was magnificently middle class?

If I wanted to do pure middleclass areas in Lagos, I would have talked about Festac, Lekki, Gbagada, Ikeja, Ikoyi, etc.

Meanwhile, I want to show you houses from Ojuelegba available for rent. Since you called it a slum. Can't you see how ignorant you are?
Meanwhile I am still waiting for you to show me the low income areas of nairobi.

I don't really care about your carefully selected nice houses in Ojuelegba. Personnally when I google Ojuelegba what pops up is a slum...............and you're really shameless at shifting goals....at the beginning of this you posted a video of a small drone recording a tiny part of decent houses in Surulere with the intention of convincing us that that's how low class and low middle class Nigerians live. You claimed Surulere is a massive suburb, if I am to use your exact wording, that is composed of decent low middle class homes. Now it's clear that

1. Surulere is actually very tiny
2. The nicer parts of Surulere are actually too expensive to be called low class or low middle class while the cheaper sections are crappy enough to be slums.

Nowenuse:
NairobiWalker, rvp20182.

I am waiting for your adorable Kenyan middle and low income suburbs.

This is Surulere, a large suburb of Lagos. We know they are box houses. This is where typical low middleclass and low income Nigerians live.
Let's see that of Kenya.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1-Y4EXfY-k

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nwoke37:
First off Ojulebga isn't middle class as you can see. Have u heard of Wizkid's song "Ojulegba" where he described the place as a place of hardship and how he had to hustle to be successful. Again ojulebga is a part of surulere. There are possibly other parts that could be considered middle class

Tell that to your brother Nowenuse. He is the one who claimed Surulere is a whole suburb of middle class Nigerians and challenged as to show him a middle class suburb the size of Surulere in Nairobi. Is it not interesting you didn't call him out on his bullshit then yet now you're trying to fix the things straight after I exposed him?

Nowenuse:
Hahahaha, so the best picture of Ojuelegba you could find was a demolished area? That area was demolished of illegal structures cos we do not tolerate such in Nigeria.
Can you see residential houses from your picture? Show me the residential houses in Ojuelegba let us see if they are like Kibera.

Look at the Ojuelegba you are comparing with Kibera, are you sure that you are not high on cheap weed?

I am not comparing Ojuelegba to Kibera lol. We are comparing Lang'ata to Surulere - the magnificent middle-class neighborhood in Lagos. You're the one who is on cheap weed.

Ojuelegba, Surulere
https://venturesafrica.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Lagos-Nigeria-Ventures-Africa-e1467378871685.jpg
https://i1.wp.com/www.newsecho.ng/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Ojuelegba-barracks-Surulere-360x270.jpg?fit=360%2C270&ssl=1
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQV2IGXW4AUEqXG.jpg

Nowenuse:
The majority of Langata voters come from Kibera?

This tells us of the emptiness of the large middleclass langata constituency.

Surulere is small but highly populated. Why do kenyans prefer living in slums?

Kibera is notpart of Lang'ata lol. As you can see from your wikipidea source, Lang'ata BORDERS Kibera. It is neither part of Kibera nor is Kibera part of Lang'ata. It once was but no longer. Kibera is part of Kibra Constituency. Meanwhile a majority of your Surulere residents live in slums such as Ojuelegba.

Nowenuse:
We do not have massive slums in Nigeria like Kenya, so our low income earners may live in crappier houses. At least they do not live in slums like the 1 million slum dwellers of Kibera.

You forgot to tell me that you are talking about Langtana constituency of which Karen (one of Kenya's most affluent neighborhoods) is part of, that's why it is 223km². Are you not ashamed?

Nope..............you're wrong once again. Nigeria has massive slums. In fact the average Lagosian lives in a slum only that you're in denial.

Yes, you're right, the massive 223 sq. Km of Langata does not include the middle class we showed you alone but also includes the affluent Karen Area same way your tiny 23 sq. km Surulere doesn't include middle class alone but also has slums such as Ojuelegba which makes it even more pathetic and ashames you with your drone video rotating over a small area. So Surulere is not only tiny but also most of the people there live in a slum....................such a beating to someone whose intention was to boast how decent Lagosians live.

Surulere (Ojuelegba)
[img]https://jujufilms.tv/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/ojuelegba.jpg[/img]
https://www.theelitesng.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/FC2401DD-8B48-4EC3-818D-72798CABFCE8.jpeghttps://tejuoshoshoppingcentre.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Rubble-to-beauty1.jpg

nwoke37:
I schooled in America, thank you. yes they're neigborhoods that are more expensive that are farther away. But generally the CBD most likely has the most expensive buildings as as you go farther out prices come down...

Wrong again - different cities are unique and no city is exactly same to the other. In Nairobi, the Western side of the CBD borders upper middle class neighborhoods, the northern part borders upper middle class neighbohoods, the Eastern part borders low class neighborhoods and the southern part borders the Industrial Area (Railway Station to be specific). Once more, it's dumb to judge the class of a neighborhood based on its proximity to the CBD.

Nowenuse:
You have resorted to insults since you have nothing to offer.

Ok, can you define suburbs and estates? Are they the same?
Surulere is a suburb of Lagos while Madaraka is an estate. Is that so hard for you to understand?

I exposed you but you did not expose me because I clearly gave you other pictures of clearly lower income areas of Surulere.

Why did you not give me lower income areas of Madaraka? Of, I forgot, it is a single estate and not a suburb.

Assess your own self, do you think you have anything upstairs?

Nope, you just proved to me your middle class live in crappier houses than our middle class since your houses are more expensive yet they are uglier, less modern, less classy and crappier than ours.

FYI Surulere is only 23 sq. km while Lang'ata is a whooping 223 sq. km. It's laughable that you try to play down Lang'ata while exaggerating the size of surulere. lol. Like I said before, you are ignorant and with poor education.

Lol, 23 sq.km is what is getting this dude overly excited?