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Nowenuse:
Only around 40 million practice open defecation in Nigeria, so stop lying.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.STA.ODFC.ZS?end=2015&start=2015&view=bar

A whole 40M? Wow! That's like the whole of Kenya.

Nowenuse:
You seem very dumb with this kind of comment.

How much did Nigeria overcome South Africa with economically? China overcame Japan with such a very wide margin in terms of GDP.

Ethiopia has overtake Kenya as the economic power of East Africa, can you tell us the major changes observed in Ethiopia?

Sometimes, one wonders if you Kenyans reason with your butts.

FYI, as a Nigerian, It is obvious that there have been differences in Nigeria now compared to 10 or 20 years ago.

Among the many

1. Nigeria obviously now has the largest ongoing projects in Africa.
2. Nigeria has the largest middleclass population in Africa right now.
3. Nigeria has the most largest and most influential entertainment industry in Africa.
4. Nigeria has more of the largest and most influential company startups in Africa in the last 1-2 decades.

Kenya has reovertaken Ethiopia as East Africa's largest economy. You're so unlearnt yet want to have an opinion on everything.

Nowenuse:
You don't just pick one or 2 illegal structures out in a place and call it a slum. That's extreme dumbness.

See? Always in denial. A special case you are indeed.

Nowenuse:
Nowhere in Onitsha is a slum. Show us the entire aerial view of the place you call a slum.

This picture just shows an unsanitized dump area.

So according to you this is a decent estate? You're just outright dumb.
https://spectascope.com/media/posts/img/polluted2017072709.jpg

naijalander:
still just a poverty stricken country

Hatred and jealousy.

naijalander:
This is me ignoring your insults. With your fullish (that was intended) delusions of grandeur. Coming here talking like Kenya actually matters to anybody here, seriously how many Nigerians do you think are discussing Kenya this very moment? I'll tell you; zilch!! but you know how many Kenyans are discussing Nigerians right now? Your whole darn country.

So who has delusions of grandeur?

rvp20182:
Nigeria cooked GDP on market-rate USD - is around $320B.

Yeah, that means it has even shrunk since 2010.

naijalander:
My keyboard, not yours and you did not understand what I meant.

The region called Nigeria was a feudal place before colonialists arrived, elements of feudalism still exist, as such, it is usually hard for the government evacuate whole communities, there are many factors at play. This is what I meant. To you, Makoko is a slum but to us, itis somebody's village.

Kibera is also somebody's village dude . Your arguments are preposterous. lol. Whether it stands where the garden of Eden stood or where Noah's ark landed or where King Solomon had sex with the Queen of Sheba or where Jesus was born - a slum is still a slum. Whether your ancestors have been living in that same place for the past 3000 years or not a slum is a slum. You're really a delusional guy.

nwoke37:
2010 stats, 8 years ago...

The current ones are even juicier for Kenya and bitter for Nigeria considering the economy of Kenya has performed way better than Nigeria's within the same period.

Nigeria GDP 2010 = $369 billion
Nigeria GDP 2018 = $410 billion
% Increase = 11%

Kenya GDP 2010 = $40 billion
Kenya GDP 2018 = $88 billion
% Increase =120%

African Middle Class by country
www.nairaland.com/attachments/5302697_laclassemoyenneenafriqueen2010_jpeg6e185b2b22775f435ba1060118511d36

rvp20182:
Makoko is at least floating - right in their CBD - there are slums. I think sort of clean up they need to do is huge.

Nairobi is well planned - you can clearly see the boundary between a slum and normal housing because slums are mostly built illegally on government land. However in countries like Nigeria it seems people can buy land and build slums on it since you find pocket of slums everywhere and ever the 'normal housing' are just slums though they are not referred to as such because to them 'the concept of a slum' is non-existence.
Look at this neighborhood in Lagos for example, they wouldn't call it a slum but practically it's a slum.
https://reic-ng.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/slum.jpg

naijalander:
The inhabitants of Makoko have lived there for generations, waay before 1914. They are there because they want to be there, it's sad the government can't help them with infrastructure but I assure you, Makokites ain't complaining much about their town.

The Kibera on the otherhand is a den of thieves !

Dude, your arguments make no sense. So if Makoko residents have been living there for generations Makoko ceases to be a slum? And if the slum dwellers stop complaining a slum ceases being a slum? Really dude? Why are your arguments always this pathetic? You can just say anything as long as you end up making your own deluded conclusions.

naijalander:
The concept of a slum does not really exist in Nigeria, finding a well built house in the middle of a slumish area is quite normal. Nigerian society is developing around traditional institutions, that's why we say it's not a slum, just an old village whose people refuse to modernize or can't afford t modernize.

Slum is not a concept. A slum is a slum - something tangible, something you can see with your eyes...............you can choose to call it some other name but if it's a slum it's a slum. Stop living in denial. Please explain to me how this place in Onitsha is not a slum?
https://spectascope.com/media/posts/img/polluted2017072709.jpg

rvp20182:
LAGOS - explain to me how does this work out. Right in the CBD - you got slum sandwitched.
https://i0.wp.com/media.premiumtimesng.com/wp-content/files/2017/06/Lagos-Central-Business-District.jpg?fit=634%2C413&ssl=1

..................and they still tell you there are no slums in Nigeria, lol. If a slum can find itself right in the middle of the CBD what chance has the rest of the city got?

254tobby:
Whatever it might be but you'll never find any other African blogger posting weird stuffs of other African nations in this your forum,its only your silly,miseducated and disrespectful Nigerian bloggers who would enjoy doing that stupidity.

You also need to know no one cares about your country,you just love to rubbing other people's shoulders in the name of massaging your esteem so that atleast you make some silly recognition there.

Nobody is righteous in this world,even in Nigeria there's bulk of weird news oozing out from there but no blogger will struggle to post apart from Nigerian themselves.

Just like black Americans call each other the N word but won't tolerate anyone calling them the same. People are make fun of themselves as a country but should really avoid obsessing over weird stuff happening in other countries.

Jay254:
Ooh my you are still here.

The irony ................... One Obaboon has been saying the same since 2016 too yet he's always on this thread.

nwoke37:
If your talking about the igbos... Obvioulsy there are different tones for igbos... It's just that out of all the ethnic groups in Nigeria they're particularly known for their lighskins. I mean c'mon its a group of around 40 million people, expect variety. although igbos are lighter in general, more like brown skin. Then there the yellow lightness igbos are known for

It has nothing to do with Igbos bruh. Just that throughout this thread the shallow minded nowenuse has been bragging about Nigerians being light skinned and Kenyans being dark skinned - at least that's what he believes.

nwoke37:
Those are hausas, they're naturally dark

According to Nowenuse, Kenyans are dark skinned and Nigerians are light skinned. I am surprised a whole community of 30M people in Nigeria is like skinned

dadark:
then why concentrate on things....?

am sure you people dont even think about safty shelters,bunkers and stuff..

you only care about things...and this things dont even belong to you sef.......

Okay bruh. You win. Lets concentrate on people then. Here are Nigerians. The supposedly light skinned beauties no-ones-anus aka nowenuse keeps talking about.
https://pix.avaxnews.com/avaxnews/ba/66/000466ba_medium.jpeg
https://www.ngrguardiannews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Crowded-Oshodi-Market-in-008.jpg
https://commonwealthjournalists.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Crowds-in-a-street-in-Zaria-Nigeria.-Photographer-Copyright-Michael-N.-de-la-Hay-%C2%A9-Commonwealth-Secretariat-810x608.jpeg

Jay254:
This is not Kericho town, its asmall market center in kericho county/state... You are too bitter man, you didn't expect what your are see from Kenya...

Keep enjoying your huge GDP with nothing to show off.

That town resembles Kapsegut centre in Kericho county and it is way better and cleaner than those Nigerian hellholes lol. Do your comparison
www.nairaland.com/attachments/7179892_kerichohousingkenyac1d3hm_jpeg739615077609f2062e1fe26d078a9c30

Onitsha
https://spectascope.com/media/posts/img/polluted2017072709.jpg
https://www.naijapals.com/newsimg/onitsha_city_alone.jpg

dadark:
with only a single nuclear missile all that will be gone....dont concentrate on things,concentrate on people....

you cant impress me with things....all is vanity....

With a single missile all people can be gone too. What's wrong with you?

theenchanter:
search naivasha town. Thanks.

rvp20182:
Now randomly pick one of the so called Nigeria cities -aka slum metropolis - and see what horrifying pictures google get you.

Meanwhile this is what I get when I search Abeokuta.

theenchanter:
search naivasha town. Thanks.

What are you arguing about? I know Naivasha, I have lived in Naivasha. Are you trying to say the photos we are posting are not of Naivasha?Here is Naivasha town and some of the photos I already posted. It still looks way better than those dumpshits of yours you call Ibadan, Abeokuta, Kano, Onitsha etc.

theenchanter:
abi o, the one posting naivasha town abi village is just fooling himself too.

I google search naivasha but another thing surmount.

Lies, when you google Naivasha it's exactly those images that pop up. Why do you Nigerians love lying?

theenchanter:
that's not 'normal housing' in Nigeria.

When I look on google maps, 90% of some of your major cities look like that so how can you convince me that that's not normal housing in Nigeria?

TayserMahiri:
Somalia is their motherland they can always identify with ancestral homeland. Its true there are many Somali immigrants in Eastleigh, especially illegal ones. Almost any Somali from Somalia or any part of the world wants to settle in Eastleigh once they land in Kenya. Just for the convenience. So the influx raises property prices around that zone to senseless levels. But if you look at the place it just looks wacky I myself would never live there! The economics of Eastleigh doesnt make sense in very many ways. One of the things is the immigrant population which comes with a lot of 'pirate' money. A tycoon from Somalia (mostly involved in criminal activity there e.g charcoal selling, taxing locals etc) can come with millions of cash and use it to buy something that is worth a few millions from fellow Somalis. Just to get a guaranteed business asset because Eastleigh is in many ways the safest place Somalis can invest. You find property worth 10 or 20 million the guy purchases it at something like 100 million and over. Just to kick out any competition. Not your usual demand-supply economics. Nothing is affluent about Eastleigh, the thing is that there are thousands and thousands of businesses going on which get taxed and give a lot of money to the city. And they all revolve around a few common things, apparel especially.

You're wasting your time explaining shit to obaboon. Some people just don't deserve your explanations. Sometimes it just makes sense to let lame people believe the lame shit they want to believe.

rvp20182:
Most of Nigeria cities with their rusted ironsheet roofing look at lot like Kibera. Kibera is being upgraded and also roads & public toilets are being provided. Makoko I think is the worst..

Typical Kibera - has clean piped albeit illegal water, mostly legal electricity 24-7s, some tarmac road and are close to cbd. This way better than middle class in Nigeria who doesn't get any of that.

https://www.coastweek.com/3843-kibera.JPG
https://www.the-star.co.ke/sites/default/files/styles/new_full_content/public/articles/2016/10/27/1059563.jpg?itok=w7VCh86D
[img]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTKI9fdOzOMBKWuY9RCAtJ1hrsqN2xzawtEWU4akPybkuGVQgUx[/img]

And there is ongoing slum upgrading
https://i2.wp.com/buildesign.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/The-numbers-of-cars-parked-in-these-houses-bring-to-queation-the-effectiveness-of-the-slum-upgrade-Who-benefits-from-these-house-allocations.jpg

This slum looks like 'Normal Housing' in Nigeria.
[img]http://1.bp..com/-ABK1mLWgdlQ/VTBDU6nxcMI/AAAAAAAABP8/U0OEb8FODMg/s1600/IMG_8184%2Bcopy.jpg[/img]

TayserMahiri:
How many reptiles live in Abeokuta? Must be a terrible number of snakes and rare ones (endemic only to rusty Abeokuta)

Imagine those are the kind of cities these guys boast over just because they are populous. I would rather live in small towns like Kericho, Kitale, Nanyuki etc with good clean environment and access to all social amenities including clean water, electricity, malls, beautiful environment etc.

Danielnino00:
Thika is a town,Onitsha is a. city
Kiambu is another town while Jos is a city.



All the places u mentioned are bloody towns.. . ..Maybe you need to consult Wikipedia, oxford dictionary and the UN for the real meaning of a city...
I. wasn't. done with Nigerian cities yet... here's more .

Asaba
Ilorin
Akure
Zaria
Abeokuta
Minna
Nsukka
Nnewi

In good faith I don't mean to demean you but I'd rather have a decent town than a slum of a city. Your definition of city is only based on population but never quality. See for instance, Naivasha is a small town of about 180,000 people while Abeokuta is a city of over 1 million people. But look at Naivasha and compare it with Abeokuta.

Naivasha
https://www.firstavenueproperties.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/1477467896612-1494709121.jpg
https://bartamaha.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/nbi.jpg

Now look at Abeokuta
https://cdn.britannica.com/700x450/77/125077-004-7683C330.jpg
[img]https://fullandbright.files./2010/10/img_0120.jpg[/img]
[img]https://format-com-cld-res.cloudinary.com/image/private/s--FUTNGum5--/c_fill,g_center,h_264,w_1242/a_auto,fl_keep_iptc.progressive,q_95/v1/d1de8be20ed61b847e8519de00e819fc/Postcards_from_Abeokuta_II.jpg[/img]

Free advice, don't just base your arguments on population - Nigeria is 4 times more populous than Kenya. Look at quality.

Danielnino00:
Thankfully, the while world know where the largest slums are located


Bear in mind though that Kano and Ibadan are ancient cities.. they have been in existence long before the colonial masters set foot in Nigeria. a lot of the buildings in those two cities are actually very old.. that being said,most ancient Nigerian cities are classified into two part: the old and the new ..if you know,you know

Thankfully when somebody lands in Nairobi or Mombasa and wants to see what Kenyan slums look like, they have to request to be taken to Kibera. Meanwhile in Nigeria such things are non existent.............you land and you see a slum. You don't have to request to be taken anywhere.

Did you know that Lamu is older than both Kano and Ibadan? Did you know that some of these beautiful Lamu buildings are older than those Ibadan and Kano eyesores?
https://www.peponi-lamu.com/media/cache/9c/af/9caf2235c5e2a82581f83597116c1af1.jpg
https://museums.intrepidprojects.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/lamu.jpg

TayserMahiri:
Dude, just say there are no malls where you live or show us pictures if any. Also, show us your neighborhood supermarkets and groceries. Dont infect us with villageosity

How can you not like something you have no access to? That's like an ordinary Kenyan saying they hate winter.