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forgiveness:
1 Energy Estate 3 pictures (no1)


2 Central Bank of Nigeria Lagos ( no 9 on the snapshot)

3, Conoil House d Eagle House (no 16 & 18)

4, Eko Tower (use ya take see & count am) picture (no 2)

Now somebody is gonna cry.

1. So is that building complete? What if I include Nairobi buildings that are under construction? Stop lying.

2. Central Bank of Nigeria is 19 floors.

3. How does that prove Conoil House and Eagle House is not the same building? Can you post us pictures of both buildings? What you're giving us is simply a list done by another liar like yourself.

4. You're ridiculous. Your fourth statement doesn't even make sense. Perhaps you should also take English classes like your friend Sherveman. Eko Tower is 17 floors. Prove otherwise.

The only person who wants to cry is you.

Hbuyosh:
Is 60% for a developing economy a.bad number?

Now compare that with the case in Nigeria, where 100% pipi are connected but recieve power for less than 3hsr a day.....at times a whole week without power.

Here in Kenya, there is no electricity interruptus, constant supply hadi raha!

In Nigeria it's 56% not 100% connected.

Jay254:
Most of them seems to be village champions, they have never been out of the village and read almost everything online...

Very true.

freshest4live:
OK, read my post again, l have asked you some questions. To be frank though, l didn't even read all of what he said, maybe when l have time. But my point is that Kenya is expected to have more serene environments that are praiseworthy than Nigeria. This may not even be entirely true, considering how big Nigeria is comparatively.

Kenya is not expected to have those praiseworthy places. We have them because we appreciate nature and aesthetics more. All countries should have them. Japan which is probably the most industrialized country on earth is known for its cleanliness and well tended parks so there's no excuse not to take care of your environment. I personally don't even think Kenya is doing enough though we are way better than most African countries.

forgiveness:
Even if I remove the 16 stories with 12 floors, LAGOS STILL HAS MORE HIGHRISE THAN THE WHOLE OF KENYA WITH 110 HIGHRISES AGAINST NAIROBI 76(12 FLOORS INCLUDED).

However we can't remove it because Moscow, New York, Seoul had their 12 floors buildings counted when the data was collected.

As it stands, Lagos has 126 highrises while Nairobi has 76. Don't deceive anybody here, your 12 stories were also included in the data collation. Like every other cities.

If Nairobi doesn’t have data for buildings in the city, I am sorry the world is not responsible for their lackadaisical attitude.

After you lied about towers over 20 floors in Lagos and I burst your bubble now you want to lie about towers over 12 floors in Nairobi? I told you those are uncountable in Nairobi. Considering you've always exaggerated Lagos figures here, even with your exaggerated 110 towers if I was to do a count for Nairobi I would beat you by far but like I told you they're too many in Nairobi I can't count all of them.

freshest4live:
But we have everything you listed there except for no 1. So l don't even know what you are bragging about.

Where did I brag? Stop having low self esteem like most of your brothers. You rubbished your fellow nigerian's praising of Kenya in those departments basing your grounds on the notion that Nairobi is doing well because it's a tourist city. Now again you're claiming I bragged.

freshest4live:
Common man, that is what Nairobi is made for...Tourism. So it's normal for people to go there to fall in love with it. Maybe in Nigeria we would have to work more on calabar as a Tourist destination. But many people hardly care about Tourism in Naija.

So you can only have stable electricity if you want to attract tourists?

You can only have a good nightlife if you want to attract tourists?

You can only have functional institutions if you want to attract tourists?

You can only keep your city clean and beautiful if you want tourists?

You can only build good standard buildings with awesome architecture if you want tourists?

If this is how the average Nigerian reasons then you guys must be having an extremely bleeped up country over there.

Jay254:
Another recent visitor.

Why can't these sissy men obsessed with looks read about what their brothers who've actually been to Kenya say about the looks of Kenyans.

freshest4live:
Yeah but not all of it. The way you guys have been boasting about electricity, l used to think there was no darkness anywhere in Kenya.

Maybe your comprehension is as poor as your other brother's.

Throughout the thread we've maintained that the Kenyans who have access to electricity have a 24/7 supply. I can say 90% of Kenyan villages are connected. The only regions that are not well connected at village level are the northern and North Eastern nomadic regions only due to the fact that those people (Somalis, Boranas, Gabbra and Oromo) have no permanent homes. There's however electricity in urban centers, market places and along roads in those regions.

freshest4live:
Is that the case for all villages in Kenya? I thought you argued only 60percent of Kenyans have access to electricity?

A village of 100 households and 60 of them are connected to electricity, would you say the village is connected to electricity or not?

kikuyu1:
4.40 mns she says you have power in the village 99.9% of the time which is unreal to me. Honesty,Naijjans,honesty!

.........waiting for those Naijans who claim Kenya has electricity in Nairobi only.

forgiveness:
Bhuuuhahaha! Look at what this guy posted before I posted the list of Highrises in Lagos.

He claimed Nairobi has more highrise with over 20 floors above both completed and underconstruction despite the fact that no where in the world uses that parameter to determine a highrise. Well I proved he was wrong by giving links to prove my point that Lagos has more highrises than the whole of Kenya. I even went my way to list the high-rises in Lagos

However, with all the gragra, he was able to list 37 highrises both completed and under construction but when he saw that Nairobi can't measure up with Lagos in terms highrise, he can up with this.....

He claimed he can't list all buildings with over 12 floors, as if Nairobi has more than Moscow, Hong Kong, New York etc that document theirs.

Meaning, in his voice.. 'The fact that you can even list ALL buildings in Lagos with over 12 floors is testament how you have so few of them' New York, Seoul, Tokyo, Moscow have few of them. Bhuuuhahaha!

He thought Kenya is the only one living in a planet where data or information doesn't exist.

See the snapshot below.



SKYSCRAPERS
Lagos - 8

Nairobi - 6

HIGHRISES
Lagos - 126

Nairobi - 76 (I gathered information from emporis) if you have more, I dare you to list them.

BUILDINGS WITH 20 FLOORS OVER (completed)

Lagos - 24

Nairobi - 23

1 Great Nigeria House 22
2 Sterling Towers 23
3 Stock Exchange House 22
4 UBA House 20
5 Eagle House 20
6 Conoil House 20
7 National Oil h/q 23
8 Eko Court Block C 24
9 Eko Court Block B 24
10 Eko Court Block A 24
11 Black Pearl Tower 24
12 Wema Towers 20
13 NECOM House 32
14 Union Bank Building 28
15 Ministry of Communication Building 30
16 InterContinental hotel 22
17 Independent house 22
18 Eko Energy Estate 1 20
19 Eko Energy Estate 2 20
20 Eko Energy Estate 3 20
21 Central Bank of Nigeria 22
22 Eko Tower 2 27
23 Champagne pearl Towers 31
24 Eko Tower 20

As you can see, you have been disssggggrrrrraaaaccccceeeddd

Let's not talk about 12 floor towers. It's useless discussing them. I told you there are too many of them in Nairobi. Let's go direct to bursting bubbles.

Nairobi has 23 complete towers over 20 floors. That's true. Now let's see your Lagos list.

1. Eko energy estate is yet to be constructed. Construction has not even yet began yet you list it under complete buildings. Stop lying. Those are 3 towers down. Lagos is now 21 down from 24 that you listed.

2. Central Bank of Nigeria is 19 floors, not 20. Lagos down to 20 from 21.

3. Eagle House and Conoil House is the same building. One more down for Lagos. 19, down from 20.

4. Eko tower is 17 floors high. That's one more down for Lagos. 18 down from 19.




See now? Lagos has 18 in comparison to Nairobi's 23. Now stop laughing around like a monkey and feeding us with lies and wake up to reality. Disgraced nyanyako. Jidunge mkundu.

Listen to what this Nigerian girl says about Kenya's electricity when she visited Her Kenyan boyfriend.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVv-XGlkufw

Jay254:
I have never ever seen aforum where men discuss looks amongest Men.. It's atotal let down

I'm even shocked with the frequency at which these guys post about looks lol. I've been ignoring this for a while in hope they discover themselves. Interestingly, Nigerians have never been known for good looks but that's not even important. This is just weird.

TayserMahiri:
Of course it doesnt because it involves a lie.

Say something like 56 % of nigerians have access to electricity with something like 10 % of those (or whichever cooked figure you put here) having uninterrupted supply.

That settles it all

Why am I getting the feeling that this is too linguistically complicated for that kid?

TayserMahiri:
What is your problem?

We are telling you the 60 % who have electricity enjoy a 24/7 uninterrupted supply in kenya

The 60 % is definitely better than your 56 %


Your 56 % get interrupted power supply except maybe in Bonny

You've really broken it down for him like you'd do a nursery school kid. If he won't get this then he's a lost case. Malenge ni malenge tu.

TayserMahiri:
I have given up on the guy. Poor comprehension skills

You explain something to the guy and he understands something very different lol. Debating him will see you going in circles simply because the guy can't comprehend English.

kikuyu1:
I've noticed your fellow f'tard mention this figure which I ignored but its now become a meme here. YOU LIE AS ALWAYS(SRSLY,DO YOU GUYS EVER SAY THE TRUTH!!). That figure was published in 2014 from the previous years figures!

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/kenya/access-to-electricity-percent-of-population-wb-data.html
We're now at around 3200 mw,fyi. That info is for the forumers interested in the truth,(Kenyans)

This means our per capita production is 71 Watts compared to Nigeria's 7.4 Watts. Ten times their size.

shervydman:
.................even TayserMahiri confessed 60% of u have access to electricity AS AT NOW

is he not in Kenya or didn't he know what's going on over there again?

Your English comprehension is poor. Go back to school.

shervydman:
hahahaha........if u're talking about KENYA;forget it, but if u're talking about some selected cities/town; so be it.

Nigeria on the other hand has some cities/towns with 24/7/electricity supply which can last up to a year with minor down-time especially those closer to power stations. but its not the case for the whole nation which is my point.

I'm talking of the whole of Kenya dude. lol.
THE FUCKING WHOLE OF KENYA.

You guys have been in darkness for so long you can't imagine a whole country having 24/7 electricity supply. lol. You guys are interesting.

shervydman:
hahaha.......first and foremost I don't lie here and that 200 unis wasn't from me u can cross-check.

if I go by ur assumption, I can count about 10 cities/towns in Nigeria that has uninterrupted power supply but I'm talking in respect of the nation as a whole which is not the case, if u study that link once again u'll see that about 85% of urban dwellers has access to electricity while 36% of rural dwellers enjoy d same fate here in Nigeria.

can that be said of Kenya?

First and foremost - how come you saw your friend lie about 200 unis and you knew he was lying yet didn't call him on it yet you keep accusing Kenyans of being liars?

I'm not denying your access to electricity.

Kenya currently is at 55% not 36% like you said. I believe Nigeria is in the same range. However what we're taking about is the efficiency. That is, how good is the supply to those who are already connected? In Kenya, once connected you can even go a whole year without a blackout. In Nigeria it's hard to beat 8 hours.

shervydman:
oh God..............cant u just stop lying at least for once?

well, u're gradually opening up....last I checked, only about 36% had access to electricity in kenya as at 2015 when u had 2100mw and u cant tell me sh!t now that it is just 2300mw.

i'll never agree u guys have at least 50% electricity supply across the country unless maybe selected cities. that's all.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/kenya/access-to-electricity-percent-of-population-wb-data.html

heck, we're even better than u here despite the fact that we don't deny.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/nigeria/access-to-electricity-percent-of-population-wb-data.html

1. Why do you keep crying over other people lying when you're the biggest liar here? Remember mentioning Nigeria has 200 universities?

2. There's a big difference between regions/cities being connected and individual homesteads being connected. No town or market or region in Kenya is not connected to electricity, only individuals are not connected.....and in many cases individuals will be connected but be recorded as not connected considering the family setup of Kenya where in an extended family of 7 families for instance one person will get connected then supply the other 6 with electricity. Thus at the KPLC (supplying organ) only one family will be recorded as connected whilst in real sense it's 7. Likewise in some low income areas in towns and cities, one home might 'supply' to as many as 20 homes. That's why in a region like Nairobi there's an almost 100% connection yet the statistics will give a much lower figure.


3. Please stop quoting these megawatt figures when you have no idea what they mean, what magnitude of energy a megawatt is and how they affect supply. Due to lack of extractive minerals Kenya doesn't have much extractive industries that consume lots of energy and the few that we have produce their own energy rather than using the national grid. In fact some sugar companies produce more energy than they need hence sell some to the government. Most of our consumption is thus domestic.

4. We have a way more efficient grid that you guys and our supply per capita is much more than yours. Remember our capacity is 2300MW and production is just above 2000MW. Nigeria's capacity is 4000MW whilst production is about 2600MW. Factoring the population factor (Nigeria has 4x higher population than Kenya) and oil production that obviously consumes like a half of that, you shouldn't wonder why Kenyans have 24/7 supply of electricity while Nigeria can barely go 8 hours uninterrupted. See.....

Kenya = 2100/45M
= 45 Watts per capita.

Nigeria = 2662
oil industry consumes 1/2 of that
Remaining electricity = 1331MW
= 1331/180M
= 7.4 Watts per capita.


You still wondering why Kenya has 24/7 supply and Nigeria doesn't?

arinzeejikonye:
That will be later bro,it is really herculean, I got meeting to catchup now,


However, I think this highrise is subjective in a way, some less storeys building could be taller than some buildings with more storeys,

Yeah......I get that. Height is measured in metres.

arinzeejikonye:
That you have about two taller newly completed building, doesn't mean you have more highrises than lagos in Nairobi,


That bro really tried compiling them, but there are still more he didn't mention,



This is no 4 bourdilon ikoyi , twin tower with 25storeys each

Please compile all of them - Complete, under construction and topped out for Lagos and I'll do the same for Nairobi. Towers over 20 floors only.

shervydman:
no,no,no.....I don't hate Kenya, neither did I hate any African country.....

I asked if KENYA has 24/7 electricity supply and not NAIROBI? hope I sound clearly now?

The whole of Kenya has 24/7 electricity. Only the North Eastern region was not connected to the grid and now it is.

forgiveness:
You can't compare it with Abuja World Trade Center mall.

Abuja WTC mall doesn't occupy the whole structure. That's like comparing Hass Tower Mall to 2 Rivers. What's the size of Abija WTC mall? If we were to go by your logic then Hass Tower mall would be by far the biggest on the continent followed by Montave

shervydman:
there's no time that we cant do whatever we wanna do.

do u have 24/7 electricity supply in Kenya? why don't u guys do that before embarking on a railway projects too?

Kenya has 24/7 electricity supply. Even a guy called Nairalander (who hates Kenya just as much as you btw) that lives in Nairobi attested to that. I rent a house in Nairobi, have a brother in Mombasa, a house in my village and working on a project somewhere in Embu County since October last year. I rent a house in a small town here. Since I came here, I have not experienced a blackout. My house in Nairobi on average will experience a blackout once in two months and it rarely takes more than 2 hours. I wonder why it's so hard for a Nigerian to believe there can be 24/7 supply of electricity in Africa lol. Most East African countries have 24/7 electricity supply.

shervydman:
well....u cant tell me u have up to 540 tech&voc institutions, u aint talking with a skunk
maybe if u're counting roadsides ones like ur school of hairdressing and beauty
but, don't ever tell me u have up to 500 tertiary institutions in Kenya.

I don't lie like you buddy. Remember saying Nigeria has 200 universities? Now that's a lie. But Kenya having 51 universities and 540 tertiary institutions is not a lie.

If Kenya's institutions are "roadside" then I don't know what to call Nigerian ones since they consistently rank ahead of Nigeria.

shervydman:
oga, u cant list all buildings above 12 floors in lagos too......I've even checked emporis.

Nairobi and Lagos both have 6 skyscraper each that's including the two buildings u guys finished just recently.

the highest 20 buildings in Kenya ranges from 60m-200m while Nigeria ranges from 87m-160m.

Your friend just listed them. lol

Jay254:
I did'nt know Lagos had such few highrise... You cannot list all buildings above 12 flours in Nairobi...

Nigerians In Kenya should come out and for once be honest about this

I'm even surprised he managed to list ALL buildings over 12 floors in Nigeria. In pipeline alone there are numerous such and they have no names hence can't be listed. lol.

shervydman:
Nigeria has about 130 universities, not counting polytechnics, colleges of education, tech and voc institutions and so on...which will make it more than 350.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_universities_in_Nigeria

Kenya on the other hand has about 50 unis and a lot of tech and voc institutions coupled with training schools and proprietary schools.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_universities_and_colleges_in_Kenya

remember... I didn't talk on numbers of training and proprietary schools in Nigeria which may make it up to 500.

now, deal with that and stop misinforming the hoi polloi....

How did I misinform anyone? Your Naija brother says Nigeria has 200 universities and you don't ask him to stop misinforming people and I say Kenya has 51 universities (all ranked) and that is misinformation?

Nigeria has 115 universities buddy......see

http://www.4icu.org/ng/

Kenya has 51.....see....

http://www.4icu.org/ng/

And while your country of over 180 million people boasts for having 350 tech and vocational institutions, tiny Kenya with 45 million people has 540 of them.

sirjerry:
51 universities? We have close to 200 universities in nigeria.

Like I said we are not in your league.

It seems you don't know a thing about your country. Nigeria has 115 universities. That translates to 1.56 million people per university in comparison to Kenya's 0.886M per university - and I forgot to mention, your 115 universities are poorly ranked in comparison to our 51. In fact 5 of yours are not ranked at all.