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DeathToAfonja:Necessity is the mother of invention. There was no overriding need to unite as one nation before the British invaded. It was AFTER they invaded that this need arose, and we WOULD have met that need and driven out the colonisers because there was no conscious ethnic division amongst our people. AND THE BRITISH KNEW THAT. Which was why they created language based blocs THEY called 'TRIBES', and set them up in opposition to one another. It is a very simple case of social engineering. We're indirectly saying the same thing... only thing is, I'm being more factual and realistic than you.Rubbish. The tribal sentiments and resentment is deeply rooted in our DNARUBBISH AND LIES. Those ''tribal sentiments and resentments'' were NON-EXISTENT before colonial rule. So hating your brother based on language difference is NOT in your DNA. It was PROGRAMMED in you by the British. The reason we are disunited is NOT because we speak different languages. Do you know the Mali empire was multi lingual and multi-religous? The empire covered almost HALF the entire West Africa at its peak. So you can imagine how many languages were spoken there. The empire was known for justice, peace, and prosperity throughout its 800 year existence. They had numerous languages, but no ''tribes''. Invading Europeans weren't there to make them into ''tribes''. |
DeathToAfonja:That is strictly your opinion, and you are just one out of 220 million Nigerians. Just because you cannot let go of the ethnic hatred programmed into your head by the British, doesn't mean the rest of us are similarly incapable. |
What we need in Nigeria is to BAN the use of terms like 'Yoruba, Hausa, Igbo', etc to distinguish our people. TOTAL BAN. IF YOU WANT TO REFER TO A PERSON, REFER TO HIM BY HIS TOWN OR STATE OF ORIGIN. IF WE DO THIS FOR THE NEXT 10-15 YEARS, WE WLL GET RID OF TRIBALISM, UNITE, AND MOVE FORWARD AS AN AFRICAN GIANT. I HEAR THEY ARE DOING STUFF LIKE THIS IN RWANDA, KENYA ETC. CLAMPING DOWN ON 'TRIBAL' SENTIMENTS. WE NEED THAT HERE AS A MATTER OF URGENCY. |
DeathToAfonja:Stop posting rubbish and drivel, you blasted peabrain. IF YOU WEREN'T THICK, you would know that the reason for this thread is PRECISELY to get Nigerians to abandon the artificial colonial TRIBAL DIVISIONS that have held them back. You say ''rebuild your nation''. How do you 'rebuild your nation' if you refuse to understand why you are in trouble in the first place, insist on being a tribalist, and are only here to argue about everything? You are the very cause of the problems you are moaning about, because you practice TRIBALISM, and insist on practicing it, while telling us to ''rebuild our nation''. They are telling you that language based tribal divisions were artificially created by the colonialists to foster disunity. Something we need to conquer and jettison in order to move forward. Why are you opposed to that? Why are you arguing over that, or are you stupid? You just come in here to argue blindly for the sake of arguing. |
2mch:Spare us this garbage. Colonialist clap trap. In every part of the world, including Africa, they were periodic battles and skirmishes which wouldn't even qualify as ''wars'' by today's bloody standards. Today we have wars that kill millions of people by bombs and missiles. Precolonial 'wars' were minor skirmishes in comparison. A major war between Oyo and Dahomey might cost 500 lives or less. You can never compare wars fought with iron weapons with the calamitous situation we have today. |
DeathToAfonja:Learn what was stated before arguing. I never said Europeans learnt from the Chinese how to build firearms. They used Chinese gunpowder, which was a native mixture of elements which the Chinese had long used to create fireworks used in worship of their deities etc. The Europeans simply observed the use of gunpowder and decided to use the process to make guns and harmful explosives like bombs, for the purposes of conquest. Europe was the poorest region on Earth, and her leaders were greedy for the world's resources. Their use of firearms changed the power balance of the world virtually overnight, as they now had serious military advantage over every other region, as everyone else still used iron weapons. That was how they conquered the Americas, Africa, and Asia. FIREARMS. By the time other regions began using firearms, the Europeans, as the pioneers, had advanced in the production of firearms, and maintained their dominance till date. Although China is having a say nowadays. |
DeathToAfonja:Are you dumb or something? Europeans only conquered the world BECAUSE THEY HAD FIREARMS. Before that, they could not conquer NIGERIA or anywhere in Africa or China or India or South America etc. They even said so themselves in the famous English 1898 quote at the height of colonialism, where Hilaire Belloc wrote: ''Whatever happens, we have got the Maxim Gun, and they have not''. Just arguing blindly like a mumu. Keep quiet and learn. You don't know everything. |
2mch:You are wrong, and exhibit the same ignorance of history common to this generation. Empires were not ''constantly at war''. The people were not all suffering and dying till the white man came to rescue and 'civiize' them, like the colonialists taught you. They taught you lies to make you feel racially inferior and worship them. Do you know that Benin city was ranked among the most beautiful cities on Earth in the 16th century by visiting Europeans? It had underground drainage and was the first city on Earth known to have streetlights. |
DeathToAfonja:Ok, I'm done with you. You're a kid drowned in self hatred and inferiority complex. You clearly need therapy. Not my job. Bye. |
DeathToAfonja:The Europeans conquered the entire world, not just Africa, after they began using Chinese gunpowder to build guns and bombs 400 years ago. For 20,000 years of history prior, the entire world used iron weapons. That the Europeans developed firearms out of desperate greed to loot the wealth of the world, does not make any of us, their victims, ''dimwits''. It makes THEM demonic. UNDERSTOOD? Plus you will not be missed if you disappear from this thread, so do us all the favour. |
DeathToAfonja:What a foolish thing to say. When it is time to unite to drive away a foreign enemy that has slaughtered thousands of your people and seized your lands, you WOULD unite even if it means using sign language to communicate among yourselves! Plus we had many MULTILINGUAL people in those days, so communication was not a big issue at all. Our ancestors travelled around. They weren't stuck to one place ignorant of others. The main thing was that there was no active ethnic division before colonial rule. The British created and entrenched those artificial demarcations for purposes of Divide and Rule. Why would you normally hate your fellow African simply because he spoke a different language? It was the colonialists that did that. It was not like that before they came. |
DeathToAfonja:Use your brain, you dunce. You don't know everything. Nobody said there were no conflicts before colonialism. In every part of the world we've had conflicts. In WW1 and WW2 Europeans slaughtered 100 million of themselves. So what is your point? The British introduced the concept of 'tribal division' based on language, which was non-existent before colonialism. They did that in order to create competing blocs in order to prevent unification of the masses who would OTHERWISE have united to oppose them. |
DeathToAfonja:I don't deal with illiterate touts like you. For those with a working brain, here's a media article expanding on the subject: Colonialists didn’t fail to root out Africa’s tribal politics. They created it. BY KAMAU MUIGA AUGUST 6, 2019 ''Before the colonial era, African ethnicities had been highly fluid and malleable phenomena. They did not exist as corporate entities. Boundaries were really shades of grey. People switched back and forth between groups. And, for the most part, no central authority enforced a shared set of laws through a monopoly of violence. As historian Terence Ranger writes in The Invention of Tradition: “Almost all recent studies of nineteenth-century pre-colonial Africa have emphasized that far from there being a single ‘tribal’ identity, most Africans moved in and out of multiple identities, defining themselves at one moment subject to this chief, at another moment as a member of that cult, at another moment as part of this clan, and at yet another moment as an initiate in that professional guild… the boundaries of the ‘tribal’ polity and the hierarchies of authority within them did not define conceptual horizons of Africans.” Tribe, in other words, was not an exclusive political category before the onset of colonial rule. Ethnolinguistic groups – people who shared a language and ethnicity – did not necessarily constitute a political grouping known as tribe. As the eminent scholar Mahmood Mamdani puts it in Define and Rule: “Did tribe exist [in Africa] before colonialism? If we understand by tribe an ethnic group with a common language, it did. But tribe as an administrative entity that distinguishes between natives and non-natives and systematically discriminates in favour of the former against the latter – defining access to land and participation in local governance and rules for settling disputes according to tribal identity – certainly did not exist before colonialism.” https://africanarguments.org/2019/08/colonialism-tribal-ethnic-politics-africa/ |
WHAT MANY OF YOU DON'T KNOW IS THAT BEFORE THE BRITISH CAME, THERE WAS NOTHING LIKE ''IGBO MAN'', ''YORUBA MAN'', HAUSA MAN'' ETC. ACROSS ALL AFRICA, WE DID NOT DISTINGUISH OURSELVES BY LANGUAGE-BASED ''TRIBES''. YORUBA SPEAKING PEOPLE DID NOT SEE THEMSELVES AS ONE GROUP. SPEAKING YORUBA DID NOT MAKE YOU A ''YORUBA MAN''. YOU WERE AN EGBA MAN. OR AN IJEBU MAN. OR AN OYO MAN ETC, WHO JUST HAPPENED TO SPEAK YORUBA. SAME AS IGBOS. THERE WAS NO ''IGBO TRIBE'' BEFORE COLONIALISM. THERE WERE JUST IGBO - SPEAKING PEOPLES SCATTERED ACROSS DIFFERENT LANDS. THEY DID NOT REGARD THEMSELVES AS ''ONE'', AND OFTEN WARRED AGAINST EACH OTHER. PEOPLE WERE DEFINED BY THEIR TOWN OF ORIGIN - NOT BY THE LANGUAGE THEY SPOKE. IT WAS THE BRITISH THAT CAME AND SAW THAT THE BEST WAY TO DIVIDE THESE PEOPLE, SO AS TO RULE THEM EASILY, WAS BY SEPARATING THEM INTO LANGUAGE-BASED BLOCS WHICH THEY THEN CALLED ''TRIBES'' . THUS IGBO SPEAKING PEOPLES BECAME THE ''IGBO TRIBE''. YORUBA SPEAKING PEOPLES BECAME THE ''YORUBA TRIBE'' ETC ETC. BY FAVOURING ONE ''TRIBE'' OVER THE OTHER, THEY WOULD CREATE ETHNIC TENSIONS AND RIVALRIES THAT WOULD PREVENT THE 'NATIVES' FROM UNITING IN OPPOSITION AGAINST THE INVADERS, AND INSTEAD, COMPETE AGAINST ONE ANOTHER FOR THE COLONIALISTS' FAVOUR AND ATTENTION. AND IT WORKED PERFECTLY, AND IS STILL WORKING 60 YEARS AFTER THEY LEFT. I REPEAT: THERE WERE NOTHING LIKE ''TRIBES'' BEFORE THE BRITISH CAME TO NIGERIA. IF YOU ARE WALKING AROUND TODAY HATING YOUR AFRICAN BROTHER BECAUSE HE IS OF A DIFFERENT ''TRIBE'' FROM YOU, KNOW THAT YOU ARE A CONDITIONED, PROGRAMMED ROBOT, ACTING OUT A PROGRAM, AND LED BY THE NOSE BY BRITISH IMPERIALISM FOR THEIR OWN SELFISH INTERESTS AND NOBODY ELSE'S, INCLUDING YOURS. |
IbileIfe:WHAT MANY OF YOU DON'T KNOW IS THAT BEFORE THE BRITISH CAME, THERE WAS NOTHING LIKE ''IGBO MAN'', ''YORUBA MAN'', HAUSA MAN'' ETC. ACROSS ALL AFRICA, WE DID NOT DISTINGUISH OURSELVES BY ''TRIBES''. YORUBA SPEAKING PEOPLE DID NOT SEE THEMSELVES AS ONE GROUP. SPEAKING YORUBA DID NOT MAKE YOU A ''YORUBA MAN''. YOU WERE AN EGBA MAN. OR AN IJEBU MAN. OR AN OYO MAN ETC. SAME AS IGBOS. THERE WAS NA ''IGBO TRIBE'' BEFORE COLONIALISM. THERE WERE JUST IGBO SPEAKING PEOPLE SCATTERED ACROSS DIFFERENT LANDS. THEY DID NOT REGARD THEMSELVES AS ''ONE', AND OFTEN WARRED AGAINST EACH OTHER. PEOPLE WERE DEFINED BY THEIR TOWN OF ORIGIN - NOT THEIR LANGUAGE. IT WAS THE BRITISH THAT CAME AND SAW THAT THE BEST WAY TO DIVIDE THESE PEOPLE, SO AS TO RULE THEM EASILY, WAS BY SEPARATING THEM INTO LANGUAGE-BASED ''TRIBES'' . THUS IGBO SPEAKING PEOPLES BECAME THE ''IGBO TRIBE''. YORUBA SPEAKING PEOPLE BECAME THE ''YORUBA TRIBE'' ETC ETC. BY FAVOURING ONE ''TRIBE'' OVER THE OTHER, THEY WOULD CREATE ETHNIC TENSIONS AND RIVALRIES'' THAT WOULD PREVENT THE 'NATIVES' FROM UNITING IN OPPOSITION AGAINST THE INVADERS, AND INSTEAD, COMPETING AGAINST ONE ANOTHER FOR THE COLONIALISTS ATTENTION. AND IT WORKED PERFECTLY, AND IS STILL WORKING 60 YEARS AFTER THEY LEFT. I REPEAT: THERE WERE NOTHING LIKE ''TRIBES'' BEFORE THE BRITISH CAME TO NIGERIA. |
Akuruoulo:What a stupid thing to say. So, because he speaks English means he must be a mental slave to the US? Use your head. |
Godspikin:SHUT UP. What was ''superstitious'' about thinking he saw giant footsteps? Are you even aware that there is evidence that GIANTS walked this earth in antiquity? It is actually western (Ie WHITE) researchers that have pioneered in such finds in recent times. A simple Google research will educate you. But a self-hating idiot like you sees a need to insult ''black man''. ASSWIPE. |
ChEkWaSIyKe:Why can't they buy it now that they are in Nigeria? It is when they leave they will buy? Rubbish. |
Oomardesigns:YOUR PROBLEM IS IGNORANCE + INFERIORITY COMPLEX. HOW MANY BLACK COUNTRIES HAVE YOU VISITED OR RESEARCHED TO MAKE YOUR NASTY LITTLE COMMENTS? HAVE YOU BEEN TO BOTSWANA? RWANDA? TRINIDAD? NAMIBIA? JAMAICA? BARBADOS? SENEGAL? ANGOLA? BENIN REPUBLIC? GABON? BAHAMAS? There are many black nations developing well, where you will go, and be amazed by their level of organization. But because your head has been brainwashed by CNN and western media, you only see 'bad' when it comes to black nations. Emancipate yourself from racial complex and self hate. |
kelvine:SAME THING I WAS THINKING. THEY CAN GO TO BLAZES. WHO CARES ABOUT THEM AND THEIR WRETCHED PASSPORTS? RUBBISH. |
I ACTUALLY SAW AN IGBO WOMAN - A GUEST ON ARISE TV NEWS SAYING, DURING THE CAMPAIGN PERIOD, THAT ''LAGOS IS NOT ANYBODY'S FATHER'S LAND''. HER EXACT WORDS. I WAS SHOCKED AT HER EFFRONTERY. |
Igbos suffer from a disease called Group Narcissism. Also known as Collective Narcissism. This ludicrous post by the OP, and subsequent responses to it by his ilk, typifies the disease. COLLECTIVE NARCISSISM What is Collective Narcissism? In social psychology, collective narcissism (or group narcissism) is the tendency to exaggerate the positive image and importance of a group to which one belongs. The group may be defined by ideology, race, political beliefs/stance, religion, social class, language, nationality, employment status, education level, cultural values, or any other ingroup. While the classic definition of narcissism focuses on the individual, collective narcissism extends this concept to similar excessively high opinions of a person's social group, and suggests that a group can function as a narcissistic entity. Collective narcissism is related to ethnocentrism. While ethnocentrism is an assertion of the ingroup's supremacy, collective narcissism is a self-defensive tendency to invest unfulfilled self-entitlement into a belief about the ingroup's uniqueness and greatness. Thus, the ingroup is expected to become a vehicle of actualisation of frustrated self-entitlement. In addition, ethnocentrism primarily focuses on self-centeredness at an ethnic or cultural level, while collective narcissism is extended to any type of ingroup. When applied to a national group, collective narcissism is similar to nationalism: a desire for national supremacy. Collective narcissism is associated with intergroup hostility. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_narcissism . . . . . Collective narcissism is defined as an emotional investment in a belief in the unparalleled greatness of an in-group contingent on external validation. It is a group level, equivalent of individual narcissism. It focuses on grandiosity and entitlement of an in-group rather than the self. People can be collective narcissistic about any group they belong to. We researched collective in context of national, ethnic, religious, football fans and gender groups. As well as mundane social groups such as university peers. Correlates on individual level An individual that scores high on Collective Narcissism tends to perceive a larger number of threats and stereotypes of other groups. Its own personal insecurities combine with also more aggressive behaviour display and derogatory towards other groups, looking for more validation from peers. The behaviour towards other groups tends to be cautious and easily sways to aggressiveness if the group is criticized. Collective Narcissism is related to other forms of group identification and in-group attachment: Collective narcissism correlates personality predictors of prejudice: right-wing authoritarianism and social dominance orientation. Collective Narcissism is not directly related to personal self-esteem. It is related to low personal control. It’s correlation with grandiose narcissism ranges from -0.008 to 0.29. It is systematically correlated with vulnerable narcissism. Correlates on inter-group attitudes level Collective narcissism is related to hypersensitivity to inter-group threat. It is related to retaliatory inter-group hostility. Related to prejudice towards social groups regarded as threatening. Due to it’s hypersensitivity to inter-group threat and a tendency to perceived insult, many groups can fall into this category. This exaggerated sensibility towards other groups can be explained by the narcissistic nature that the group makes of itself and its members, much like the self the self-worth of individual narcissists is contingent on the constant admiration of others, meaning that the in-group needs constant approval and admiration from others as well. https://sites.gold.ac.uk/prejudicelab/collective-narcissism/#:~:text=Collective%20narcissism%20is%20defined%20as,level%2C%20equivalent%20of%20individual%20narcissism.&text=People%20can%20be%20collective%20narcissistic%20about%20any%20group%20they%20belong%20to. |
gidgiddy:TYPICAL NARCISSIST MANIPULATORS. WHEN THEY CALL UP YOUR ATROCITIES, YOU IMMEDIATELY LOOK FOR A COUNTER-ACCUSATION, TO NEGATE YOUR GUILT. ASSWIPES. |
hamouston91:SAME MUMUS WHO HAVE 11 MILLION OF THEMSELVES SETTLED IN THE NORTH. WHY AREN'T THEY HEADING DOWN TO THE SOUTH EAST? |
Sitwalkstand:ABEG SHUT UP. NARCISSISTS. YOU GO TO ANOTHER ETHNIC REGION AND START CALLING IT ''NO MAN'S LAND'', AND THEN YOU EXPECT GOOD TREATMENT? THE STUPIDITY OF YOUR PEOPLE IS JUST LEGENDARY. UNA NO GET SENSE. |
WHY ARE YOU POSTING THIS SHIIT ON NAIRALAND? A NIGERIAN FORUM. DON'T YOU HAVE YOUR BIAFRA WEBSITE OR FORUM? PARASITES. |
ken6488:That's a destructive mentality. You're a young man, so you don't know we've been here before. And the results were tragic to say the least, with millions of people killed. So ethnic hatred and division is destructive. One thing you should understand is that the politicians from various ethnic groups are ALL friends. And I mean PROPER friends. Elections are to them just a GAME. Like football. Like basketball. Like hockey. On the pitch they are 'enemies'. Their game tactics include exploiting ethno-religious differences in the population to garner support. Voter intimidation and thuggery are other tactics they employ. Once the game is over, regardless of who wins, they go and drink beer together. And eat Isi Ewu together. And chase women together. And meet up in expensive parties in London, Dubai, Los Angeles, Paris, discussing business deals in-between sips of choice wine. TOGETHER. Chatting in cosy settings they'll even be making snide remarks and jokes to one another about the stupidity of the electorate, ie YOU, in falling for their manipulations. I've been in their midst. I know. Meanwhile YOU are sat in Nigeria, taking the GAME as reality, and internalising the whole thing to the point of utter TRAUMA, leading you to hate and despise other ethnic groups, and imbibe unnecessary mental dysfunctionalities. So the question is When will you get sense and stop letting these politicians use YOU to make money and catch cruise? |
ChEkWaSIyKe:Babangida, so how was the Oyo Empire able to repel the Jihadist armies from the north for centuries? |
panafrican:The leaders should all plan to execute it the same day in all the Francophone countries, let's see how many of them France can kill before Macron is arrested for crimes against humanity. |
I wouldn't have advised him to eat something prepared for the gods sha. The man get liver. |
MrBiGGEST:VERY WELL SAID. I am Igbo and love my Yoruba guys including those I went to school with like 20 years ago, and we still connect till tomorrow. ![]() |
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