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This Obi and eye service sha.. |
seunmsg:Don't mind the attention seeker. |
PoliteActivist:WHAT A LOAD OF UTTER RUBBISH. YOU MUST BE ABSOLUTELY MAD TO BE LOOKING AT CLEAR REPRESENTATIONS OF BLACK FOLKS, AND STILL TYPE THIS STUPID VOMIT YOU JUST DID. |
9japride:They did not 'invent gunpowder'. Gunpowder is a native mixture of metallic dusts the Chinese used to produce fireworks in their traditional ceremonies. Europeans then gathered the mixture to set off inside a gun to push out a metal bullet, and that was the beginning of their domination via firearms. |
AjaanaOka:eze and eyin are linkable. Simply loosening the consonant z produces a sound similar to eyin whose 'n' is unpronounced. It appears the Yorubas and Igbos shared the word 'eze', and after the separation, the word slowly morphed into 'ehe', then 'ehin' or eyin' in Yorubaland, while the Igbos retained the original version of eze. |
Ttalk:You're absolutely correct. |
Others are building railway networks, deep sea ports etc, this wan na Government House he dey build. |
naijaking1:Morphological similarity is not proof of shared genetic lineage. |
eagleu:Not necessarily. After all we have Dutch people in South Africa who have lived proximate to Zulus for centuries. Doesn't mean they are related. The Fulanis don't share a common ancestry with Hausas to my knowledge, yet they live proximate to each other. |
BanyXchi:This is cold research based on hard facts and evidence. There is no room for sentiments at this level of discourse. That you have more in common with this group than the other is only a function of your current or recent geographical proximity to that group. For instance the Ga and Ewe people lived among the Yorubas before they migrated to Ghana roughly 700 years ago. But as at that time Igbo and Yoruba had already long separated, quite possibly 1,500 years earlier. So your having more in common with the Ga or Ewe has no bearing on the fact that Igbos and Yorubas were once in a single ethnicity, and have a deep ancestral connection. The linguists said it. Wherever you find two groups that share identical or near-identical words for basic vocabulary terms like eye, nose, mouth, head etc, it is PROOF POSITIVE that they once spoke the SAME LANGUAGE, because no language borrows the words for those basic terms. |
sarrki:This man is just enjoying. |
Armaggedon:When qualified linguists and language professors who have spent decades studying these things are talking, your job is to keep quiet and learn. Arguing with them from your layman perspective coloured by ethnic sentiments is just not gonna cut it. |
JASONjnr:I am Igbo and grew up and have lived in Lagos for decades. NOT ONCE in all my interactions with Yoruba people have I had any 'hatred' exhibited towards me because of my Igbo ethnicity. My childhood friends were Yoruba, Igbo, and a few Hausa. We played together, partied together, and ate in each others houses daily, and still do, today. And I'm sure I'm not the only Igbo person who can say all this. So I've no idea where some of you get the impression that Yorubas hate Igbos. I'm certain that people who say this stuff are people who've never actually lived among Yorubas. |
. . My Submission that Yoruba, Igbo Have The Same Parent Language – Aremo A retired Associate Professor of English and ex-Head, Department of English, Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile-Ife, Osun State, Dr. Bolaji Aremo, talks about his research findings that Yoruba and Igbo languages had the same parent language. INTERVIEW You stated in your book ‘How Yoruba and Igbo Became Different Languages’ published in 2009, that the two languages are historically from the same parent language. How is this so? We can conclude that two or more languages are historically derived from the same parent language when we compare the languages and find in both of them very many basic vocabulary words that are similar in sound and in meaning. For example: Igbo imi/ Yoruba imu = ‘nose’; Igbo nti/Yoruba eti = ‘ear’; Igbo onu/ Yoruba enu = ‘mouth’; etc. Basic vocabulary words are essential words, such as words for body parts, for which every human language normally has its own native equivalents. Thus, for instance, it is not likely that the Yoruba examples just given can originally have been borrowed from Igbo, or that the Igbo examples can originally have been borrowed from Yoruba. And so, the very many vocabulary words which are similar in sound and in meaning found across Igbo and Yoruba can only have resulted from the fact that the two languages are indeed from one and the same parent language. What are some of the linguistic correlations manifest in the two languages to underscore the findings? The most easily identified indication of genetic relationship between two languages is found at the vocabulary level. And as just explained, there must be a substantial number of basic vocabulary words similar in sound and in meaning which are found across the languages that are thought to be the daughter languages to a prehistoric parent language. Of course, we can also find additional manifestations of the genetic relationship elsewhere in the languages, especially at the sub-level of morphology, which deals with the structure or forms of the words. Does it mean that the two tribes were of the same ancestral stock? What can indeed be inferred from our historical linguistic findings is that they used to live in prehistoric times in the same community, in the same restricted culture area. But there are strong suggestions from both Igbo and Yoruba oral traditions that the two ethnic groups were of the same ancestral stock. You further claimed that many West African languages such as Igbo, Yoruba, Bini, Ewe and Twi are genetically related. In what areas are the noticeable similarities since Yoruba is regarded as a highly tonal language? It has, in fact, been the claim of linguists that Igbo, Yoruba, Bini, etc. are all tonal languages, and are all genetically related. That is to say, they are all languages in which word meanings are dependent on such voice pitch levels as High [/] and Low [\]. Thus, for instance, depending on the tones used, the Yoruba word ojo could mean ‘rain’, ‘cowardice’, or ‘name given to a type of male child’. Similarly, depending on the tones used, the Igbo word ala could mean (among other things) ‘madness’, ‘breast’, ‘ground’, or ‘bottom’. There must also be other similarities that can be found among them all, since the linguists’ claim is also that they are actually all genetically related. But until more thoroughgoing research like the one on Yoruba and Igbo is undertaken, we cannot say in quite concrete terms what the similarities are like between Igbo or Yoruba on the one hand and any one of the other West African languages on the other hand. In the book, you noted that it would in fact be absolutely right to conclude not only that Igbo and Yoruba used to be one language, but also that the Igbo and the Yoruba people are brothers and sisters who used to live together as members of the same community. Historically, where did the two tribes inhabit before separation and what caused the division? From the totality of the historical linguistic evidence available, the conclusion can be reached that they lived together in Ile-Ife. Then, of course, it cannot have been the case that some of the people living together in Ile-Ife were known as ‘’Igbo’’ and the others as ‘’Yoruba’’. The terms ‘’Igbo’’ and ‘’Yoruba’’ were acquired not too long ago, i.e centuries after the separation had taken place. What caused the separation? The answer to that lies deep in prehistory, beyond the reach of our historical linguistic tools. What seems clear, however, is that those were times when a group of friends or relations could, from sheer love of adventure or freedom to do one thing or another their own way, decide to emigrate to some strange unoccupied lands and start off their own pet kingdom. To what would you attribute the marked differences in the syntactic structure and the other linguistic variations in both languages if they used to be one? Like other things which endure in time, language is constantly changing, though slowly. Therefore, if two or more groups of speakers of a language are separated and prevented in some way from communicating with one another, each of the groups will eventually develop its own version of the original language. After a long period of time, the various versions of the original language developed by the different groups will become so different from one another that they will be mutually unintelligible, i.e. they will for all practical purposes become separate languages and there will be nothing like the original language in existence. It may be pointed out, however, that when the changes in the different versions are not so great as to block mutual intelligibility, they are just regarded as regional dialects of the original language. Thus, Oyo, Ekiti, Egba, Owo, Ife, etc. are just regional Yoruba dialects, because their different speakers can still manage to understand one another, even when they speak the actual dialects and not the general, communicative norm (based mainly on the Oyo dialect). For the same reason, Ahoada, Bende, Ika (Western Igbo), Ikwerre, Owere (Owerri), Onicha (Onitsha), etc., are just regional dialects of Igbo. But Yoruba and Igbo, which were originally dialectal versions of the same language, are now different languages because they are no longer mutually intelligible. The original parent language, the proto-Yoruba/Igbo language, no longer exists. Would you agree with the declaration of the Ooni of Ife, Oba Adeyeye Ogunwusi, during the 2019 Aje festival that the Igbo and the Yoruba are aboriginal to Ife? Oh, absolutely! From the available historical linguistic evidence, the Ooni must be right. I understand a spokesperson for the Ohanaeze has said the Igbo were the first settlers in Ile-Ife, and that the Yoruba later came to join them there. .... In the book, you advised the two ethnic groups to “for the good of all, try and jettison their patently counter-productive legacy of mutual distrust and once again relate with one another as real brothers and sisters.’’ How do you think this can be achieved considering the disturbing deepening distrust and disagreement between the two ethnic groups? It is indeed a shame that two of the most highly educated and enlightened ethnic groups in the black world, the Yoruba and the Igbo, can allow themselves and their children to be hooked on the counter-productive legacy of mutual distrust. It is very unfortunate. I think it is all political rivalry of the self-defeating type. And they have been at it right from the Zik/Awo election quarrel of 1951, working at cross purposes ever since, even at critical moments when their working together would have steered our country away from the murky depths in which we have all been wallowing till today. I would like to believe that common sense will soon prevail, and members of the two groups will once again be relating with one another as real brothers and sisters – for the good of all! https://punchng.com/my-submission-that-yoruba-igbo-have-same-parent-language-not-political-aremo/#:~:text=But%20Yoruba%20and%20Igbo%2C%20which,Igbo%20language%2C%20no%20longer%20exists. |
gidgiddy:Not according to the research. |
AlfaSeltzer:This is scholarship of the type a spare parts dealer like you couldn't begin to contemplate undertaking. So I understand your primitive reaction to the research paper. |
Historians and anthropologists have long known that Igbo and Yoruba are just linguistic derivatives of an original shared super language. Other language groups in Nigeria and the West African sub-region may also be speaking derivatives of this ancient super language we once shared. Nothing proves these connections more than the multiplicity of words and meanings shared by the two ethnic groups, Yoruba and Igbo. It also proves that there was a time when these two groups were ONE, and that Igbos and Yorubas are brothers and sisters from deepest antiquity. By Kelechi Wachuku Linguist & Anthropologist This isn’t a fully comprehensive list, but these include a fair number of words and other similarities. [1] The Igbo word comes first with the corresponding Yoruba word right after. Here’s a list of many cognates and similar words: Animals: ikwiikwii (Igbo) = owl owiwi (Yoruba) = owl agu (Igbo) = leopard ẹkun (Yoruba) = leopard adịdị (Igbo) =young female fowl, hen adie (Yoruba) =fowl, hen ehi/efi (Igbo) = cow efon (Yoruba) = buffalo ewu = goat ewúrẹ= goat azụ = fish eja = fish enyi = elephant erin = elephant Other similar words that may be the result of borrowing (Animals): toro toro = turkey tolotolo = turkey Body Parts/Words Relating to the Body: ọnụ = mouth ẹnu = mouth ire = tongue ede = tongue, especially in the sense of "language." ntị = ear eti = ear agba=chin agbọn=chin ụbụrụ = brain ọpọlọ = brain aka = hand ika = finger ikiaka = elbow ejika = elbow imi = nose imu = nose isi = head ori = head ụkwụ = foot, leg -kun in “orokun” = knee ezé = tooth eyin/ehin = tooth afọ = stomach ifun = intestines ike = buttocks, anus ikun = stomach ọkpụkpụ = bone/skeleton egungun = bone/skeleton olu = neck ọrun = neck ọdụ = tail iru = tail Miscellaneous: ri = eat jẹ = eat bịa = come wa = come ogo = height iga = height obi = heart, king ọba = king ume = breath, energy imi = breath also umi in central yoruba (same meaning) okwu = speech, word, utterance ohun = voice, utterance uche= mind ọkan = mind úgwù = circumcision egun = circumcision (seldom used) ọría = disease arun/aarun = disease also related to yoruba aarẹ and arirẹ ụra = sleep orun = sleep nso nso = menstruate osuosu = menstruate gba= shoot in igbo gba = kick in yoruba (used in certain expressions) ogwu = thorn ẹgun = thorn re = sell ra = buy Similar Words (likely due to borrowing): iba=fever iba=fever Possible cognates: ikiri ụkwụ = heel igigirisẹ = heel akụ́ = arrow (1 of 2 possible words for “arrow”). ọkọ = spear Numbers: atọ = three ẹta/(m)ẹta = three anọ = four ẹrin/(m)ẹrin = four Many Igbo words, especially numbers, are prefixed by a “ke-” or sometimes “nke” when they become adjectives. A similar process is seen in Yoruba numbers. nke atọ, keanọ, keise, nke isii, keọkara = 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, half in Igbo kẹta/ikẹta, kẹrin/ikẹrin, karun/ikarun, kẹfa/ikẹfa = 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th in Yoruba Possible Cognates: abụọ = two (m)eji = two Words with “-j-“ in Yoruba (IPA: -dʒ-) frequently evolved from -b-“ in Yoruba as a result of palatalization. So, words like “eje (blood)” were once “ebye.” Thus, “-ji” in “eji” may have at one point been something like “ebye” or “ebyi,” which would be more similar to “abụọ.” Pronouns: ọ or o= he/she/it (3rd person subject pronoun) o or ó = he/she/it (3rd person subject pronoun) oun/ọ or also un = he/she/it m/mụ = I/me (1st person singular subject and object) also mean "my" if put after, say, a noun. aka m(ụ) = my hand mo = I (1st person singular subject) mi = me (1st person singular object) also mean "my" if put after, say, a noun. ika mi = my finger emi = 1st person singular emphatic. ha = they (a)wọn = they ụnụ = you (plural) ẹyin = you (plural) gini = what ki(ni) = what Land Features/Environment: ala = land ile = land in yoruba okute/okwute = stone/rock okuta = stone/rock afufe = wind ifufe = wind oyi = cold oyii = wind in Central Yoruba osisi = tree/plant ose = fruit Similar Words (likely due to borrowing): ọka = corn ọkà = grain/wheat yoruba Possible Cognates: ji = yam iṣu = yam ụwa = earth in igbo yoruba cognates (iwa, wiwa, hardly used except for in names, like Oluwa); (oni/olu = owner, “oluwa=owner of the earth”), oduduwa (great one who created the earth) (odu=great or mighty one→ god sent down from heaven in ile ife) (pg 148)[2] Above: Oduduwa ebe = place ibi = place ugwu = moutain/hill oke = mountain (m)miri = water omi = water in Yoruba Religious/Community Terms: ute = mat itẹ=throne in yoruba ife = to worship, to wave, to adore ife = love, desire, affection in yoruba afa = divination, sorcery ọfọ = mourning, sorcery ifá = divination ụlọ=house in igbo ile/ule=house in yoruba ilu = city in yoruba ụlọ mmụọ/ụlọ nsọ = shrine ileumole/ileorisha = shrine mmụọ = spirit ụmọle = another word for any generic god in Central Yoruba ẹmi also means spirit, life, soul in yoruba ọlịsa = God in some Igbo dialects also alụshị/alụsị = minor god in standard Igbo orisha = god in yoruba uru = gain, profit ere = gain, profit efu = free (adverb) ofo = free, as in “ṣ’ofo” (yoruba) osi/isi/esi = cook in igbo ase = cook in yoruba apo=bag in yoruba akpa=bag in igbo Possible Cognates: ígwè = iron ogun = Yoruba god of iron (eke)le = greeting (iki)ni = greeting Family/Interpersonal Words: ụmụ = children ọmọ = child nwa=child ewe=child, youth in certain dialects oyi = companion, friend, lover aayo = favorite, preferable, beloved person, favorite person, favorite wife ọká=expert or distinguished indivual (oka mgba=wrestler) ọgá = boss ọgbọ = age-mate ẹgbẹ = age-mate “emeka bu ogbo m(ụ)” (Igbo) = Emeka’s my agemate “egbe mi ni emeka” or “emeka jẹ egbe mi” (Yoruba)= Emeka’s my age-mate Note: egbe is now commonly used for group, association, or guild, and in igbo, ọgbọ can mean generation. oru/ohu = job, labor, duty, employment, slave ẹru = slave oke = man, male, masculine akọ= man, male, masculine onye = one who, who, person eniyan = person, human also ẹni/ọni/ ọniyan in Central Yoruba ọni can mean “one who” in yoruba, as in “oniwaasu” (preacher/one who preaches) nwuye = wife -aya/iyawo = wife nwanyị = woman, female person, wife -aya/iyawo = wife iko = adultery ọkọ=husband nta = marksmanship/hunting ụta = bow in igbo ọta = marksman, shooter ịyaa = mother, aunt, term of deference for an elder cousin who was one’s nanny iya = mother, term of deference for an elderly woman agha = war ogun = war ebo = clan, kindred, lineage, tribe ẹbi = family https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-similar-words-in-the-Igbo-and-Yoruba-Languages |
WHERE IS RUFAI OSENI WHEN YOU NEED HIM? HE SHOULD BE OUT THERE INTERVIEWING ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T BEEN PAID BY HIS BOSS. SHEBI HE IS MR SOCIAL CRUSADER FOR THE MASSES? WHY IS HE SILENT ON THIS? |
Ublaize:OF COURSE IT WAS BECAUSE TINUBU WAS CALLED TO ATTEND THE DEBATE. SO, LIKE ANY SENSIBLE PERSON, HE RESEARCHED THE PEOPLE CALLING HIM FOR DEBATE, AND DISCOVERED THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO DON'T PAY THEIR WORKERS' SALARIES. SO HE REFUSED TO DEBASE HIMSELF BY ATTENDING AN EVENT CALLED BY SUCH QUESTIONABLE ENTITIES. |
owobokiri:What laughing stock? It's all in your mind. Nigeria that every young girl in Kenya, Jamaica, Uganda and Ghana is dying to sound like Genevieve Nnaji? Nigeria, whose music has taken the whole world by storm, and is being played on every radio station and in ever club worth its salt everywhere on Earth today? Nigeria, whose national cuisine has gone viral on TikTok and Youtube, with thousands of content creators and influencers trying out Nigerian fufu and egusi, and jollof for the first time before adoring millions of followers worldwide? Are you aware that Nigerian restaurants in the USA, UK, Canada, Australia etc have been doing a ROARING TRADE as people of those nations QUEUE UP OUTSIDE to buy Nigerian food, as a result of the social media viral sensation that is Nigerian cuisine? The same Nigeria that Ghanaians and Kenyans are on YouTube lamenting over their countries' inability to replicate Nigeria's global success in the entertainment industry? Which Nigeria are you on about? Somebody will just sit in his village and be talking 'Nigeria'. You don't know Nigeria abeg. |
Jostoman:They should line up in front of your house? Or go on Arise TV News? Some people sef. |
Simon is such a nice-sounding name, evoking images of New testament apostles, pious sages of old, and well-raised adolescents. How can a man named Simon be so wicked? |
Thousands Of Nigerians Sign Petition Demanding Arrest Of Simon Ekpa Over Five-Day Sit-at-home Order, Killings In South-East Simon Ekpa https://saharareporters.com/sites/default/files/styles/focal_point_1300x650/public/2022-12/Simon-Ekpa.jpg?h=c673cd1c&itok=l3BIHZDv The petitioners called on the Finnish government, Nigerian government and the European Union to arrest Ekpa, the brain behind the order. Thousands of Nigerians are calling for the arrest of Finland-based Simon Ekpa, a self-accalimed member of the Indigenous People of Biafra (IPB), following the five-day sit-at-home order that has led to the killing of many residents in the South-East recently. The petitioners called on the Finnish government, Nigerian government and the European Union to arrest Ekpa, the brain behind the order. As of Thursday afternoon, over 2700 persons had signed the petition seeking for Ekpa’s arrest. Ekpa, had in a viral video, ordered the people of the South-East to observe a sit-at-home from December 9 to 14, 2022 – an order that has been marked by bloodshed and destruction of lives and properties in the region by its enforcers. Although IPOB, through its Media and Publicity Secretary, Emma Powerful, denied issuing such an order, violence had continued to reign in the region. Consequently, aggrieved Nigerians are signing the petition calling for Ekpa’s arrest for “terrorism and genocide.” The petition reads, “We call on the Finnish Government, EU, The Nigerian Government to arrest Mr. Simon Ekpa, and investigate all his heinous crimes and terror activities in Eastern Nigeria. “One Simon Ekpa (also known as Ifeanyi Njoku), a Nigerian living in Finland, and holding Finnish citizenship, has by proxies, successfully established and coordinated an armed rebel group in Eastern Nigeria whom he now wields to destroy lives, property, and businesses in Eastern Nigeria. “He’s been seen countless times, using his media platforms in Finland to issue orders to his armed goons in Eastern Nigeria to launch deadly attacks on millions of people in the region for flouting his sit-at-home orders. “Simon is a separatist fighting for state secession but has never been brave enough to come home and lead the war from the front in Nigeria. “He is rather igniting and fueling terror on his ethnic group who decline his call for secession. “Simon’s action is stirring up bloodbath – a genocide in the region, and innocent women, children, the aged and youths are the victims dying everyday. “Sign the petition, and share it everywhere, to call on the Finnish Government, EU, The Nigerian Government to arrest Mr. Simon Ekpa, and investigate all his heinous crimes and terror activities in Eastern Nigeria.” https://saharareporters.com/2022/12/15/thousands-nigerians-sign-petition-demanding-arrest-simon-ekpa-over-five-day-sit-home |
PDP.... They're already strategizing how they will share the money for the 3rd bridge. |
XerXers:nice one |
Intelligent write-up. |
NEMA evacuates 191 stranded Nigerians from India A total of 191 stranded Nigerians in India evacuated back home by the National Emergency Management Agency, NEMA, have arrived Nnamdi Azikiwe International Airport Abuja today, Friday 16th December 2022.https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/12/nema-evacuates-191-stranded-nigerians-from-india/
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That guy is still walking free, man. Nobody arrested him. |
ayo2008: Shut the fck up. THE ONLY REASON you're shouting JESUS today is that greedy Englishmen arrived with guns and bombs 150 years ago to seize your land and colonise your resources, to enrich their country. They gave you the bible to confuse and 'pacify' you, while they carried out their looting. SO SHUT UP AND LET US HEAR. Mr Jesus. IF 'jESUS' is ''the only way'', how come it took 2000 years for his existence to be known to us in West Africa? ''Jesus'' only remembered us when it was time for oyinbo Englishmen to loot our country 150 years ago? RUBBISH. |
Gante04:They're cursed with self hate. |
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