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Politics › Re: Oshiomhole Apologises For His Heartless Comments To A Widow by naptu2: 9:43pm On Nov 29, 2013
theoctopus: You are back to your old ways again. That is why I said your question was silly. Is whether they forgive him or not the issue? What has that got to do with the iddiot governor doing the right thing? What is worse than the iddiots action is the meaningless spin some of you are making out of it. Tell your evil governor to go and do the right thing.
Gosh! More emotions and no substance. If forgiving him is not the issue, then why are you asking for an apology? Who determines what "the right thing" is? You? The woman? The people of Edo?

(I'm sure he's not going to answer my questions again, because he can't. He's just going to get emotional and throw words around).
Politics › Re: Governor Ameachi Dissolves Obio-akpor Council by naptu2:
I suspected that this might happen. The court ruled that the state assembly did not have the powers to suspend the council. It ruled that only the governor has such powers.


However, I think that it's crazy that a state governor can single handedly suspend an elected local government council. This is one of the things that we need to amend in the constitution.
Politics › Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by naptu2: 7:07pm On Nov 29, 2013
DonColz1: you are just assuming, are you trying to say that the security forces can never go on strikehuh What of if jonathan refuses to pay the security forces (army, navy and airforce) for one month, don't you think that they would go on strikehuh
They will not go on strike, they will mutiny.

Think about it this way. You have guns, bombs and tanks. You have power. You can actually change the government and get away with it. Why will you stop at a strike?

Won't you take your guns into town, block traffic, etc, like the soldiers in Ilorin did?

I hope you know that, in the armed forces, a mere strike is = mutiny, so why will you stop at a strike?
Politics › Re: Oshiomhole Apologises For His Heartless Comments To A Widow by naptu2: 6:20pm On Nov 29, 2013
theoctopus: The only reason I am responding to you is because I know we have engaged decently in the past, otherwise I find your questions silly, no offense.

If NL do not forgive him? He should just do the right thing, datz all! People will form their opinions. Those who will forgive, will forgive him. Those who will not, will not. When you mess up as a public officer, you live with the consequences. You dont go asking if they dont forgive you, what next? What kind of question is that? If you dont want any consequences, then you dont mess up in the first place. There are people who will never forgive him even if he buys a private jet for that woman. But the most important thing is for him to do the needful.

That purported crap apology up there is an insult to everyones intelligence
Finally! You've answered the question. The truth is, there will be those who will forgive him and there will be those who will never forgive him.

It's possible that the woman and the people of Edo could forgive him, whether he goes to see the woman or not. It's also possible that he might go and see the woman and she and the people of Edo would forgive him, whether he compensates her or not. It's also possible that he could go and see her and make her a road safety official and use the opportunity to preach about road safety and street trading and the woman and the people of Edo would forgive him, even though people on nairaland choose not to. An individual might not be happy, but that doesn't mean that he gets to choose the quality of apology that's acceptable.

My aunt lost her son in the London bombing. She has forgiven the bombers, even though others have not. The others might be angry, but they don't get to decide if she forgives or not.
Politics › Re: Massive Unemployment In Enugu; 8,000 Job Seekers Besiege UNTH For 10 Openings by naptu2: 6:09pm On Nov 29, 2013
Obiagelli: God bless you naptu2, imagine enugu state selling coal or electricity to disco from state owned power plant, several manufacturing plants sited in the state and the state even exports its own coal. Till any of these happens hold the FG responsible.
Even beyond that, small scale businesses like barbershops, business centres, cybercafes, etc would be more profitable because there's constant electricity.
Politics › Re: Massive Unemployment In Enugu; 8,000 Job Seekers Besiege UNTH For 10 Openings by naptu2: 6:00pm On Nov 29, 2013
What I would have really loved to see is real fiscal federalism. Imagine if the individuals who own the land or the state government were allowed to mine coal. The possibilities with clean coal technology are amazing.

The opportunities would not only come from the mining sector. If Enugu State exploits that clean coal technology to generate electricity and distribute it locally. . . . The opportunities would be amazing!
Politics › Re: Oshiomhole Apologises For His Heartless Comments To A Widow by naptu2: 5:52pm On Nov 29, 2013
theoctopus: You kidding me? They were not the ones wronged? every citizen of Edo state was wronged. Every Nigerian was wrong! I told you to try and come down from your high horse sometimes and truly feel the people. Some of you are detached from reality. Whether someone say 220k or 500k is inconsequential. If the governor has enough sense, he should know what to do that will assuage peoples feelings at least to some extent. I heard the Edo PDP has already raised some funds for the woman. Can you blame them. I would do the same if I was in their shoes. Oshiomole is messing up big time
I wonder if it's just emotions, or if you have some kind of political interest in this, but the truth is that you haven't answered my questions.

Ok, let me humour you a bit. What if he apologises to the woman and she forgives him and the people of Edo State forgive him, but nairalanders do not forgive him? What then?
Politics › Re: Oshiomhole Apologises For His Heartless Comments To A Widow by naptu2: 5:25pm On Nov 29, 2013
theoctopus: So why ask a silly question like you are mocking people for the genuine anger they feel. Most people have said already, he should go apologize to the woman. So why ask them such a silly question? You trivialize the issue like it is nothing so you get what you get
Finally, you've put your emotions aside and are now thinking rationally (at least I hope so).

There's nothing silly about my question. I ask that question for a good reason.

Some people are making demands on the governor, when they are not the ones who have been wronged. One poster said that "he must give the woman 200,000" others have made other demands, so that question is, what if he apologises to the woman and she accepts his apology? What then? What happens to all the people that are making demands?
Politics › Re: Oshiomhole Apologises For His Heartless Comments To A Widow by naptu2: 5:13pm On Nov 29, 2013
theoctopus: This is the problem with you APC supporters (I know you will deny you are one). You think being legalistic is more important than serving people. You talk academic jargon because you think you are ruling over firewood! That will be your party's undoing. You think it is more important to sit on your high horse and lecture everyone about how you have this bloody dream of an utopian society that will be built on egg shells and where people will be riding electronic bicycles in the skies.

You have no sense off compassion for the people you rule. You talk down on them like they are your slaves. That was what has brought this on Oshiomole. This isnt new. He has been doing this for a long time. He only just got caught on tape now. That is how God works. One day for the owner.
You have not addressed any of the things I posted. I condemned the governor yesterday and I petitioned the supermod to put the topic on the front page. But the fact remains that the governor's comments were directed at the woman. If he apologises to her and she forgives him, what then?

You simply expressed emotions because you couldn't counter the fact that there's no correlation between the Bode George case and the Oshiomole incident.

Lastly, I couldn't care less whether you think I'm a republican party or democratic party supporter. That's your problem, not mine.
Politics › Re: Oshiomhole Apologises For His Heartless Comments To A Widow by naptu2: 5:03pm On Nov 29, 2013
paulchucks: When Gordon brown called a woman a gay which was captured by bbc and televised he went personally to the woman's house and apologize i don't know what is wrong with our Nigeria politicians so oshomole your apology rejected even if is 200k give the poor widow to start life afresh before she commits suicide
naptu2: Gordon Brown described the woman as a "bigoted woman" (he didn't know that his mic was on).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTr8IVWBuPE

Her reaction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyVdGyM087w

Brown apologised later that day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3F_ly9xSqQ

And then went over to her house to apologise in person.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3Hex5raBrU

There is no excuse for showing disrespect to the citizens you serve.
Politics › Re: Oshiomhole Apologises For His Heartless Comments To A Widow by naptu2: 5:00pm On Nov 29, 2013
theoctopus: The correlation between the two is that the two public officers erred! The public will treat them the way the public feels they deserve to be treated. And in the eyes of the public, Oshiomole's sins are far worse than Bode George sins. You cannot use your mandate to oppress the downtrodden in society. That is sacrilegious. It is bad enough when you do evil through corruption, but when you start attacking widows on the streets, you have crossed the line
Bode George committed a crime against the state, for which he was punished. The public is upset with him because he was not remorseful and he has never accepted that he did anything wrong.

Oshiomole did not commit a crime against the state and is thus not being prosecuted by the state. He has already expressed remorse for his actions and will probably do so again. It's not the same.
Politics › Re: Oshiomhole Apologises For His Heartless Comments To A Widow by naptu2: 4:57pm On Nov 29, 2013
paulchucks: When Gordon brown called a woman a gay which was captured by bbc and televised he went personally to the woman's house and apologize i don't know what is wrong with our Nigeria politicians so oshomole your apology rejected even if is 200k give the poor widow to start life afresh before she commits suicide
Aha! I posted those videos yesterday. His first apology was not delivered in person, but on a radio show (and it's similar to Oshiomole's apology). He later went to her house and apologised in person. My question is, if Oshiomole apologises to her in person and she accepts it, what then?

Off to find the videos.
Politics › Re: Oshiomhole Apologises For His Heartless Comments To A Widow by naptu2: 4:49pm On Nov 29, 2013
theoctopus: Bro, I am disappointed in this your question! If Bode George had apologized then, would you have proposed that he be forgiven and allowed to go free? You try sometimes to be neutral on this forum but obviously you are not
Was Bode George prosecuted in court?

Is Adams Oshiomole being prosecuted in court?

What is the correlation between the two?
Politics › Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by naptu2: 4:46pm On Nov 29, 2013
Collins Colz: ok i did not know about that, but what will happen if the army, airforce and navy decides to go on strike for 2 days?
I doubt that the army would go on strike. They would rather mutiny. That has happened a few times in the past (the most recent case that I can remember occurred when some soldiers alleged that they were not paid their UN allowance. Some soldiers were initially sentenced to life in prison for that mutiny).
Politics › Re: Oshiomhole Apologises For His Heartless Comments To A Widow by naptu2: 4:43pm On Nov 29, 2013
Question: If Oshiomole apologises and the woman accepts his apology, then what?

What if the woman accepts his apology, but the people on nairaland do not accept his apology? What then?
Politics › Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by naptu2: 4:32pm On Nov 29, 2013
The police force went on strike in the early 2000s (when Musiliu Smith was Inspector General). They demanded for prompt payment of their Lodging Allowance. They refused to turn up for work and some junior officers interrupted transmission on police radio. Some of the leaders of the protest were later arrested.

It is believed that the strike was one of the reasons why President Obasanjo eventually sacked Mr Smith.
Politics › Re: Oshiomoles Apology Not Accepted!!! by naptu2: 4:04pm On Nov 29, 2013
There's usually a method to these things.

Yesterday I posted videos which showed Gordon Brown calling a voter a "bigoted woman".

He issued a "sort of apology" on a radio show later that day.

He went to her house a few days later to personally apologise. The woman accepted his apology.

Now, if Governor Oshiomole apologises and the woman accepts his apology, then that's the end of the matter.
Politics › Re: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by naptu2: 3:09pm On Nov 29, 2013
Multiple threads on the same topic.

Oshiomhole Apologises Over Comments To A Widow
https://www.nairaland.com/1536251/oshiomhole-apologises-over-comments-widow


And Oshimole Apologied
https://www.nairaland.com/1536259/oshimole-apologied


Oshiomhole Aplogises Over Comments To A Widow
https://www.nairaland.com/1536258/oshiomhole-aplogises-over-comments-widow

Oshiomole Apologises Over Comments To A Widow
https://www.nairaland.com/1536243/oshiomole-apologises-over-comments-widow

Oshiomhole Apologises Over Comments To A Widow

https://www.nairaland.com/1536245/oshiomhole-apologises-over-comments-widow

Oshiomhole Apologises Over Comments To A Widow
https://www.nairaland.com/1536301/oshiomhole-apologises-over-comments-widow
Politics › Re: Oshiomoles Apology Not Accepted!!! by naptu2: 3:05pm On Nov 29, 2013
[quote author=Mynd_44]Na you e insult? Which kin demands be this one? undecided[/quote]grin
Politics › Re: Before You Call Oshiomole Names, Consider This by naptu2: 12:36pm On Nov 29, 2013
Obiagelli: hi sweetlemon, it's been a while, I honestly didn't want to comment on this topic,
Fact 1: it's absolutely wrong for the Governor to make such comments, he forgot the life of every residents in this state is his priority.

FACT 2: nigerians like to play holy and point fingers, we come across Widows like this or even worse daily and we simply ignore.

FACT 3: if the woman was trading by the road she should be in court by NOW facing charges of endangering her life, her children and other commuters.


+100
Politics › Re: O by naptu2: 12:30pm On Nov 29, 2013
@Gidi_Traffic

#REPORT @OmotolaniOlaku: @Gidi_Traffic wassup wit police evriwher 4rm ikotun dwn 2 iyana dopemu under bridge? Mks evriwher kinda tense.

8:27 a.m. Fri, Nov 29

https://mobile.twitter.com/Gidi_Traffic/status/406338543766626304?p=v
Politics › Re: Go And Die - Oshiomole Tells A Widow! by naptu2: 6:31am On Nov 29, 2013
"Proof". Lol.
Politics › Re: Go And Die - Oshiomole Tells A Widow! by naptu2: 5:49am On Nov 29, 2013
Gordon Brown described the woman as a "bigoted woman" (he didn't know that his mic was on).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTr8IVWBuPE

Her reaction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyVdGyM087w

Brown apologised later that day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3F_ly9xSqQ

And then went over to her house to apologise in person.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3Hex5raBrU

There is no excuse for showing disrespect to the citizens you serve.
Politics › Re: Go And Die - Oshiomole Tells A Widow! by naptu2: 9:16pm On Nov 28, 2013
The issue is not whether she was breaking the law or not, neither is it about whether she is actually a widow or not.


It would still not be right for the governor to address her in that manner if she had a huge table and five chairs and was selling right in the middle of the road.
Politics › Re: Go And Die - Oshiomole Tells A Widow! by naptu2: 8:10pm On Nov 28, 2013
okeyxyz: OP please stop with this your lies and emotional blackmail. You obviously speaking out of some figments of your imaginations or your malice. I'd watched this video over and over and no where did Oshiomole say to the woman "Go and die!!!"

Oshiomole's words sound more like: "When your husband die, you want to kill people on the road..." The issue seems to be that she put her goods on the road rather than off the road(pedestrian path)

What you are doing is nothing but slandering.
47 seconds into the video clip. Listen carefully.
Politics › Re: Go And Die - Oshiomole Tells A Widow! by naptu2: 6:16pm On Nov 28, 2013
A public official is elected/appointed to serve the people. He must carry out his duties with courtesy and respect for the people, even when they break the law.

He also has a duty to direct and educate people so that they'll know the alternatives to breaking the law.

There is no excuse for what Oshiomole said. He should not have said "you are a widow. Go and die". He should not have ignored the woman or acted like she was an irritant. He should have attended to her, correct her if need be, but there is no excuse for saying "go and die".

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