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BlueDiva: Our ex-boys

RDM just made us 64million pounds richer.

The 64m (Euros that is), is for the whole competition, not for winning it.

LMAO at Fibre Optic speed over Satellite.
Either the company doesn't know what Fibre Optic means or they don't know what speed means.

Liverpool have signed Fabio Borini. Yeah! The same Borini from the Chelsea academy.
He remains the only player from the academy in recent memory who has gone on to do well.

I remember all the hype I was giving the dude on here.

If not that the club is rejuvenating anyway, I'll be angry at someone. .

So John Terry is found not guilty. He used the words and he knows it.

We are not saying give Benayoun a chance over Kakuta, Lukaku and Josh.
We are saying all 3 of Malouda, PF and Malouda will probably not go at once.
If I had to keep only one of them, I'll keep Benayoun.



Meanwhile Romeu is flirting with Barcelona again!

dare2think: I'm really wondering if benayoun can offer any credible contribution to our season. I like the dude and his work ethic.

Perhaps he can bring experience to the table and be one of our super-subs this season.

To be honest, there is no harm in keeping Benayoun.
I will rather keep him than Malouda.

However, considering the fact that there's just 2 more spots for foreign players left in the team, one of Benayoun, Malouda and Ferreira must leave if we have to fit in 3 more foreign players in the team. My guess is it will be Benayoun. Though I hear Ferreira has been put on the transfer list. Which club will pay him £80k/week?

Cabaliiiii.
What's up man? Long time!
You and Jalether just waka like that.

Ibime: Oscar is a good guy unlike that lazy wasteman Ganso who expects everyone else to do his work for him. Like play, like play, Oscar has stolen Gansos mandate as Brazil's no 10 for World Cup 2014.

Chelsea should price well though. Im not happy with spending £25m straight from Brazil.

Piazon is a top guy as well but seems more suited to drift in from that left wing.

I think the prices quoted have all been in $ and Euros rather than pounds. I am guessing around the £16m pound mark.

Andre Uweh: I do not understand the need to buy Oscar when already we have Piazon coming through. Anyway Sky has denied it.

I am a massive fan of Piazon and I rate him alongside Feruz, Chalobah and Bamford as one of those that have a realistic chance of breaking into the first team. That said, Oscar is light years ahead of Piazon in every aspect of football. Why are we buying Oscar? Well sometimes, you go out of your way and splash on kids that have a massive potential of making it very big. Why should we let Spurs him when we can impress Oscar with money and prestige?

I think the club is playing a smart one here. After AVB was sacked, he was scouting players in Brazil. Oscar is one of those players ear-marked by AVB. Oscar seems already like one of those Brazilians that have greatness written all over them. Sometimes, you invest in these sort of players, not because they are particularly ready to be first team material but a shot, a gamble at the future that just maybe, he could be golden.


The calibre of players being sought after in this window continually points to a massive drift in football philosophy.

@Ibime,

If we are going to be playing with 3 player behind the striker, the Mata/Hazard will be in the hole. Yes with the flexibility of interchanges as you suggested, KDB though, is not the hole player. His role will be more like a deep lying midfielder in a double pivot. If he does not go on loan, he will deputise for Lampard which means McEachran will go on loan.

I do not want Kakuta playing on the wing. If however, it means that this is the only way he gets playing time, then wing play it is.

@Ibime,

Kakuta, KDB, Mata and Sturridge though can play on the wings are certainly not wingers.

Kakuta has not played on the wings in about 2 years.

KDB, though played as a winger in the first half of last season for Genk, is actually a CM. He pushed for a CM role in readiness for joining Chelsea and he became a massive influence on the Genk team. I have provided the stats before on here. KDB was involved, either as assist or key pass, in 17 out of 22 goals Genk scored in the 2nd half of the season after he moved to CM. More effective than he was when on the wing.

Mata is our number one player in the hole.

Sturridge, I hear, as a condition for signing a new contract, wants to play as a CF.


I quite agree that all these players, if it comes to playing at all will play on the wings, we still do not have more than 2 wingers in the team. It'll be interesting to see how RDM interprets this. We need a more tactically flexible and very robust squad with strength in depth. I believe we are getting there.

Many reports suggesting that we've signed Oscar.

On the contrary, I do not think we need another physical midfielder.
We are as physical as we can be. Mikel and Mata are almost likely to start most games leaving us with one more spot in the midfield in a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-1-3.
Lamps, Ramires, KDB, McEachran, Essien are all eligible to start. One more physcial midfielder is an over kill. Plus right, squad rules define that we cannot add more than 2 more foreign players.


For that reason, I believe the club's move for another winger is on track. Lukaku will most likely go on loan. Sturridge I am hearing will be played as 2nd CF. THat leaves us with only Hazard, Marin as wingers. (Please don't mention Malouda).

We cannot go into the season competing for 4 titles and then there's World CLub Championship, SuperCup, Community Shield, with only two effective wingers. You don't win titles on the strength of your first 11 only but the strength of the squad. Therefore the reason for pursuing Hulk, Schurrie and Moses is valid.

However, that's not to say I agree with Schurrie in particular or the reported fee.

Ah! How did I not comment on that?
He almost murdered everyone.
Luckily as reported on SkyF1, the guy with the front jack only had minor injuries.

It was a scary sight.

Lewis finishes 8th. Their strategy didn't quite work to plan.
Webber wins. Better than Alonso running away with the championship lead.

Maldonado again! This dude needs more than a slap on the wrist.
He's put Perez out.

It's started dry. Lewis starting on the hard compound tyre.
Others in front started on the softer compound.

Beaf: Dissapointing. Lewis is 8th.

Really disappointing.
However, with more rain predicted in the UK tomorrow, naturally, we expect a lot of twists and turns.
I still expect Lewis to do well.

The dude in the first pic to the right of RDM looks like Tomas Kalas.
I really am looking forward to seeing what the likes of KDB and Marin can do in the season.

FBS: My guy nateevs, yes so. That's when the season starts for me. lol.

Will you be watching?

Ofcourse! I've not missed a pre-season game in years!
I hope Kakuta, McEachran and KDB have good pre-seasons.
I really do not want them on loan. I want them to have decent minutes in a Chelsea shirt.

@Ibime.

It's becoming more and more difficult to justify having a conversation with you.
Is it remotely feasible that you can respond to a difference in opinions without name-calling?
What analytical advantage does it offer to your posts? You and I see things different ways.

I've just told ma mate on the phone that even if Torres scores 30 goals next season, Chelsea wont win anything cos I know which kind of games he would score in. It wont be title-deciding games like Everton, City, Newcastle or those tactical UCL games etc where space is tight. His own would be only to chop awoof against the Villas and Wigans who would give him enough space to play his "switchback", only for Chelsea to drop points in those tight games where trophies are won and lost and where a strikers tactical contribution is vital.

Really? I don't understand your argument anymore walahi!
Isn't it amazing you already know the games Torres will and will not score before the season kicks? Torres as a Liverpool striker scored against Chelsea, ManU, City, Newcastle, Arsenal, Everton, Tottenham, Real Madrid, Inter Milan, Benfica. I quite agree with an argument of Torres' shattered confidence but to extend that into his "inability to score in big games" ? Come on man! What exactly are you arguing about?


In the afternoon you categorically stated Torres "will not" succeed at Chelsea. Now you are already making excuses for the types of goals he may score. So we must conclude now that Torres, may score 35 goals next season, it still will be far from a successful season.

Torres had ZERO contribution to Spain's title. . . .the coach Del Bosque knows it and thats why he refused to play him in any tight decisive game, and his one attempt to do so against Croatia produced a cuarenta y cinco minutos horribilis that precipitated Torres' withdrawal after half-time.

I see. Did Del Bosque also know to not play Llorente - 30 goals last season - as well?
De Bosque only realised that Torres can't play in tight spaces at Euros right? So he left Soldado who's scored 52 goals over the past 2 seasons and took Torres right?


You cannot pass judgement on Torres on the back of Del Bosque's tactical decisions. If in the eye of Del Bosque, Torres was that rubbish, he should have played Llorente. One time when it favours your argument you tell us Del Bosque knew not to rely on Torres, yet every other time he (Del Bosque) chose to bring on a striker after not starting one, he brought on the rubbish one. How do you justify that?

Ibime: Blaming midfielders again are we? Torres has more excuses than a hypochondriac.

How many of Matas passes did Torres score last season.

So the kinda passes that Lamps used to set the likes of Ramires and DD free in the UCL and FA Cup latter stages are not good enough for Torres?

Its always someone else's fault with Torres.

I didn't know how I miss this.
How many in total are these passes to Ramires, Drogba et al.
It's very easy to keep saying why didn't he score all the passes. . how many of those passes did others score?

I will blame the mid-fielders until our style of play changes.
Minus Drogba, which striker has ever blossomed at Chelsea in the last 10 years?


After JFH and TAF, we bought Crespo, Kezman, Mutu, Sheva, Pizzarro, Di Santo, Lukaku, Sturridge and now Torres. Not one single one of these strikers ever had a season to remember at Chelsea. Is this Torres' fault as well?

While some of us analyse what goes on season by season, some others look at systemic problem over time. We developed a system, with players that only Drogba can thrive in. Only Anelka also had "one" successful season as a striker and that was in the season we dared to change the system.


My point is Torres is a top class striker that Chelsea can get a lot from. However, just like previous strikers at Chelsea, we need to develop a system that brings out the best in them.

RVP just announced he isn't extending his contract.

FBS: Pre-season coming up in 2 weeks! Its about time walahi.

Hey Russia man! Are you watching the PS games?

I do not think anyone argues that Torres possesses an infinite amount of tactical robustness. Everyone knows how Torres plays. If you choose to have him in your team, then you must devise a tactical approach that brings the best in him.

It's the same way Mata disappeared over the games against Barca and Bayern. You want Mata to join an army that parks the bus, he's as useless as the y come. However, does that mean that offensively, he isn't Chelsea's best? I don't think anyone argues that.

So you must understand how Torres plays unless we are ready to shell out on another striker. If however, RDM perfects a way to get the best out of his so called "imperfections" then it's wrong to suggest that he "will not" be successful at Chelsea. We are not talking about an average footballer here.

What are saying now is clearly different from what you said a few minutes ago. That Torres scored a chunk of his goals when set free on goal does not equal "inability to play in tight spaces" . . . and to stretch that even further by saying that he "will not" succeed at Chelsea because of it is preposterous at the very least.


What Coogar and I believe is that Torres is a striker who thrives on quick, incisive build-up play because he has good ability of timing those runs that set him free on goal. This does mean he cannot play or score in tight spaces. It just means that even in seemingly tight spaces, some players see passes other don't and Torres who knows how to create that space in the "tight space" relies on midfielders who can spot that run and make that pass. Chelsea has never had one these player up until Mata.

Right now, we are building a squad of this calibre of players. I believe it will seem rather wise to see how Torres works in the "new team" before trying to be the guy who predicted the falling heavens.

"Torres will not succeed at Chelsea" "He lacks the ability to play in tight spaces".

Hmmm! If I remember correctly, I think Torres was a success at Liverpool. . . Ah! That's because tight spaces were not invented then.
Of course!



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dayokanu: Italy just disgraced themselves in this final

Dem for just allow germany play the final

I also believe Germany would have given Spain a better game.
That said, Spain are just in a league of their own.

El Nino and Mata.

Ah! 3-0

ritchboy: Are you implying Ibime makes laughable comments?

Italians in trouble. Spain boring? Absolutely laughable!