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dayokanu: Nateevs you are deliberately looking for my trouble

You know I stepped off your case for some months now

This your preferring Hazard over Ronaldo might vex me to do what I wont like for now (to do till Torres have another drought)

Hahaha. You stepped off my case for some months now.
Funny!

BlueDiva: I'm sure you will agree with time.
Hulk likes to shoot even when a team mate is better placed to score.

2010/11 36 goals, 21 assists.
2011/12 21 goals, 15 assists.


Me thinks he isn't as selfish as you are making out.

Beaf: Shut the phuck up!
When people like me were on the streets risking our lives to fight for MKO, your type were hiding under their beds, paralysed with fear.
We faced live bullets, armoured cars and extremely powerful teargas dropped from helicopters that exploded with the sound of a bomb.
When we were patrolling and organising along the railway line (Oshodi to Iddo), along Western Avenue, Ikorodu Road etc; where were reptiles like you?

Today, you have the guts to tell me about Yoruba and the SW; and then turn around to spit on MKO. I find your type thoroughly despicable.

Pictures or it never happened. Abegi anyone can claim anything.
With your reputation on the forum, who's going to believe that?

"When we", "When people like me". . . Oh please!

debosky: Is having Hazard now equivalent to having a team while Ronaldo is not? Idiocy on Marble by Lateefu.
Lille have had Hazard for over 3 years now, how many trophies have they won?

Having Hazard does not magically equal having a team. Just like having Ronaldo doesn't.
My reasons are clear. Hazard is 21 and has his best years ahead of him. He may or may not become a WPOTY but I'll still have him.

Ronaldo on the other hand is at the stage where declines begins. He will cost a bomb and will be more of a prima dona than any other player.


So yes, I will choose Hazard over Ronaldo every single day of the week. Those are my reasons. If you disagree, it's your opinion! Simples!

all4naija: Your lack of comprehend is overwhelming. You are a daft suffering from autism.

Point to where I called it suspension bridge, mor.on. Point to it!

So you dare resort to name-calling because of your inability to understand this statement?

nateevs: You are the one causing massive confusion for yourself. No one here, you likewise, has called this a suspension bridge.

I can only but laugh. I need to also explain to you what likewise means?
You are lucky I am not in the mood. I will give you the courtesy of withdrawing your statement.

You are the one causing massive confusion for yourself. No one here, you likewise has called this a suspension bridge. No one has actually even suggested that the cable is carrying "all of the load on the deck". However, you are suggesting that the cables are carrying not "one single gram of weight on the deck". This is what baffles me.

How can one tell what is not carrying load by just looking at it? You are not privy to the calculations and load analysis sessions and you keep mentioning with authority that the cables are for fancy. I will get on the fone and contact a ton of people who can get me someone to speak to at JB and confirm and put the results here on NL. If you are right that the cables are fancy, I will own up but if you are wrong. . . . .

Garbage. Absolute Garbage. I wil post this again and again until you get it. Trying to deduce that the cables are fancy from the final picture is utter rubbish. This is the picture that shows from the outset that the cables are holding the deck in place. Take this picture as it is and erase render from your memory. The construction begins from the Pylon and cables hold the deck in place.

BlueDiva: If it's Euros that's fine.
I might add that Hulk is quite a selfish player.

I don't think that point of view is correct.

ritchboy: Interesting, considering the fact Sagna is still the best RB in the league by a mile. Ronaldo should be 28ish now, maybe you'd take a Dzagoev over him because he's younger and you're "rebranding"?

Are you Wenger in disguise?

But Sagna is not Ronaldo. . . Unless you are trying to tell us something we don't know.
Last time I checked, rebuilding does not mean buying the world footballer of the year.
Hell, I'll take Hazard over Ronaldo. Having Ronaldo doesn't mean zilch. Having a team means much more.

Madrid have had Ronaldo for 3 seasons now, how many trophies have they won.



Best RB by a mile?

bayooooooo: No Dana is not guilty until proven otherwise. Suspension of licence does not imply culpability. There have been accusations even from an unexpected quarters-the associates of the Airline in question. There is no option left, for a responsible government, other than to suspend licence of such company and call for thorough investigations.

Your write up rules out man power as a potential source of incompetence responsible for the crash. If Dana partners with a certified faultless Airline and we still have crash, what do you suggest we investigate? We need to investigate not just the air worthiness of their fleet but also the competence of personnel. Until that is certified ok, the licence is justifiably suspended.

Technically, the suspension even favors Dana.

Good points you raised there; especially with the consideration of incompetence of personnel.
However, my point of view is based on the Government's action with respect to the facts.

What is the fact? The fact here is that a tragedy has occurred but the FG does not know what caused it.
Anything the FG is basing this on for now is hear-say.

While you raise good points, what is happening here is a situation that is akin to a group of Policemen picking you up and locking you up in jail because your neighbours identified you as the one who killed a child.

You could argue that he should be locked up so as not to cause danger to others, the converse argument is that you could have just been wearing the same shirt that day as the killer. We are all sad about what happened and I do not wish this on anyone or their families, however, we need to be careful about what manner of action we employ/support in the pursuit of investigations. We may be setting a premise for future Govt actions. Actions that prevent you from stepping out of your house in the name of National Security.

LeoMax: Sometimes I used to think you are intelligent, I guess I was very much on the wrong.

Is this English?

bayooooooo: How do you ground the planes if not by suspending the licence? After investigation, arguments can now be made for either restoration or outright revocation of the licence.

Ofcourse you can. Planes are not like cars. They need clearance to fly every single time. This clearance is obtained from airport management. If the National Airport Authority receives a memo to not allow Dana air-planes fly, they don't. However, Dana can still conduct business by flying their loyal customers (if any) on other flights. Or hire a certified safe plane to transport it's customers. With the suspension of their license, they can't do either.


I am pleading on the side caution. You know, just in case Dana has fault with other planes but not the one that crashed.
It could have been anything. Pilot error, Cabin abduction, attempted terrorist attack, or even the rumoured 2hr airport shutdown. Yes there could have been simultaneous negligence of safety procedures but what you are all doing now is concluding that the plane crash is a result of negligence of safety procedures.


Once again, I am not arguing for Dana. I don't know them.

Gbawe: Not at all. It is a safe-guard measure any responsible Government is within its power to utilise if there is even a hint an airline is breaching very strict safety guidelines. Airlines have had their licenses suspended even when a crash has not occurred. What are we then talking about here when a crash has indeed occurred ,taking over 150 lives, with employees of Dana Airline , who will now undoubtedly have supplied more than is put in the public domain, directly talking of negligence that put profit-making above the preservation of human life? I may not be a fan of this Government but they do nothing wrong here and have indeed acted responsibly given that this one incidence of alleged misconduct may not be an isolated one. Other planes run by Dana Airline may indeed be similarly faulty !!!!

My guy, investigate and you will find that there is enough information out there to show that this particular Airplane was one with a recent troubled history that showed it should likely not have been in the air. How many more of these are Dana Airline operating and how does a responsible Government establish this without grounding an airline now very badly tainted with serious allegations over safety and maintenance? Should the FG gamble with another disaster just to satisfy sentiments or, logically, err on the side of the paramount need to protect lives at all time and as much as possible?


http://www.holidayextras.co.uk/news/travel/18220668.html

I do not doubt that there have been series of complaints against the airline.
The FG however has to be the regulatory body that it is and act judiciously.

If there is a hint that their airplanes are in breach of safety, ground the airlplanes.
Suspending the license of airline however, can only occur after[b] "there is proof beyond reasonable doubt"[/b] that the airline has indeed erred on safety.

It's nice to see the FG take action however we must all be wary of "what kind of action" the FG is taking. The FG must be what it is, the FG. It must not conduct itself based on hearsay. It must hear but act accordingly. The investigations must endeavour to be swift and thorough, so that all is revealed in time. However, due process is the hallmark of any sane society. Trust me.


Please be reminded that I do not condone any mischief (if any) by Dana Airlines, I do not have any connection to them whatsoever. I hope that the souls of those killed in the crash find a perfect resting place.

Gbawe: "To allow for a free and unfettered investigation into the circumstances surrounding the fatal crash of flight #992 in Iju area of Lagos".

This is the right thing to do in my opinion.


http://saharareporters.com/news-page/nigerian-government-suspends-operating-licence-dana-air

I disagree with this Gbawe. Suspending their license is an insinuation that the airline is guilty.
Though a lot of people have alluded to the fact that the airline operator has a lot to explain, for now it's only conjecture.

If the FG grounds their airlines for some days, I can understand. However, to suspend their license is about the ultimate punishment if eventually guilty. The FG has already done that. Are they guilty already?

[quote author=tpia@]If the plane didnt explode until 20 or 30 mins after the crash, why didnt anyone exit via the emergency doors?[/quote]It's a flipping plane crash. Only best imagined. This is not like a car parking at a garage.
You sound like you've been in one before.

jamesyins: People are looking for every excuse to blame it on someone, the bottom line is the plane was not in good to condition to fly.

Even if it had a landed at the airport in time, it was an accident waiting to happen.

And you know this how?

Revolva: Link of what has beeen known long ago so its now they posted this you want link I don't blame you you are not in naija or even lagos I do see all the construction work everyday because I live arouind the vincinity
Now reason do you think lagos state govt will just start a project like that all such projects of this kind needs assistance and co operation from other surrounding nations

Bros abeg find link and stop all this megede fegede.

Okay! I initiated a message on blackberry about a hour ago asking people to forward a message confirming when the flight took off. I just received a message stating the flight departed at 2pm. If this is correct, then the flight should have landed just before 3pm. however, I received the message of the crash at past 4.35pm which is around the time the plane supposedly crashed. That's at least over 1hr and 30mins beyond landing time.

It would be of help if anyone can corroborate the fact that the plane indeed took off at 2pm.
If true, then that's one more step towards the truth.

I posted this in the afternoon. Can anyone confirm that the plane did take off at 2pm?

free2ryhme: The federal Govt has suspended the Dana airlines operating license

Any reasons given?

[quote author=ndu_chucks]The results of this 'survey' should be discarded. This is the worst time to conduct such a survey; at a time like this even the Pope and the most spiritual Mulah or Monk will be rated very poorly.

Give GEJ a break.[/quote]At a time like this is when you know who's worked their backsides off and who has not.
If there is intent to wipe out corruption from the top, everyone single person will feel it.

Where there isn't a will to do so, corruption persists.
These things we see everyday are results of institutionalised corruption.
Where you can walk into a Police Station, get a few men and drive them down to arrest your neighbour because you are rich.

Give GEJ a break? Seriously?

Pukkah: He did not make sense as he could not prove his point. He neither stated the type of foundation used (which may have made your scenario a possibility) nor show that the load calculation is too much for the columns and the foundation. And please note that aesthetics is out of this.

Exactly. It is not an argument about whether it is sound or not but that "by just looking" he could tell it wasn't sound.
That's first class ignorance and no one should be allowed to get away with that.

KamiLara: You mean like this southwark council library

https://www.fenestration-news.com/Images/CoLogo/WF/News/Tec_120.jpg

Yes bros! You catch my drift.
Good illumination bring out the beauty in the cladding.

Arosa: So you think it's better I keep my mouth shut right. cos I am not wishing anybody death. it's the contrary i wish for.

Man please just give it up already. I thought you'll be gone.
You don't have any point. No even one.
Simply because you cannot tell what is structurally sound from a picture just like I said.
To continue to bark on is further proof you do not know what you are saying.

Do you think the load bearing columns are sitting on loose soil?
Are you privy to info about the piling work done before overground construction.
If not don't know this, you cannot even bat an eye-lid. Rest abeg.

all4naija: How is it not fancy in that picture? Aren't you seeing the constructed part of the bridge is resting on the fulcrum of the pylon, at the middle than the cable holding it. Spare us the simplicity!

This response is shocking. It is very evident in the picture and from the illustration I gave that the cables are holding the deck in place. You are suggesting a miraculous load suspension in the middle of the Pylon in manner that looks like this.

Hehehehe. You are one of those guys who's deemed intelligent and almost always has an answer to everything.
To the ignorant few, you seem like a genius, to those who know from a mile away, you are spreading your tentacles beyond familiar territories.
And it's very obvious now how little you know about the subject, yet forcefully trying to make us believe you know a lot.


I will illustrate with a digram. The construction in the picture I posted previously is mirrored by the paint pic I have attached. The 90M deck is constructed slowly from the middle of the pylon and held in place horizontally by the cables whose support is the Pylon. This is a result of detailed analysis of load bearing and counter-loading keeping the deck in place perfectly horizontally. The construction will continue outwards (from the pylon) until the 90M deck rests on the other ends already in place. How can the middle deck rest on its own before it reaches the other end without the cables.

BlueDiva: Seen Hulk play a couple of times.
Would say 38 million is too much.

He is a good player alright.
I mean 30 million or little less should do.

As far as I am aware, it's 38M Euros. Not pounds.
The reason why Porto are haggling over more money is that Porto only have 85& rights of Hulk which cost them about 20M Euros.
They want to purchase the last 15% and sell off as the English forbid transfers with part ownership.

Arosa: I did it for just one semester, but my sister is one.

And she told you the building doesn't look "structurally sound"?

Arosa: Are you an architect?

No!
Are you?

Arosa: I don't like the design, it doesn't look structurally sound.

And you determine "structural soundness" by looking at a picture online with the building at least 50 yards from the camera?
How do people come up with such stuff?

Wow! Amazing stuff. I particularly love the external cladding employed.
It's easier and cheaper to maintain in the long run and it gives it the sparkling, shiny look.

I hope it also well illuminated at nights.

Please let's stop this Sagna thing abeg.
Things have changed. Roman is wiser.
If Chelsea is signing a RB, certainly not a 29 year-old one.

No player we've signed in just over a year is over 25.
We are not just buying, we are rebuilding.

In fact, I have found the perfect for you. On eof the pics posted by Naptu. Look at this picture and you can just about imagine the process of construction. If this does not prove beyond any doubt that the cables are not fancy then I do not know what can.