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chamotex:
He already said he's targeting all FOUR trophies . . . so lets wait and see.

chamotex:
Obviously he is a good coach . . . no doubt. But believing the fact that because he worked under JM, he will achieve the same height as him is ridiculous to say the least.

chamotex:

Good achievement - Porto are the kings of Portuguese football. Its very possible they will win the league again next season with their new manager.
And I'd like to think you are not comparing the EPL to the Portuguese league.

FBS:
@nateevs, yeah you mentioned "inspiration" but I would also like to say that it is obvious he learnt more from Jose.
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chamotex:
Learnt what exactly?
What did McClaren learn from Fergie?

Being an under-study to a good coach like JM doesn't mean he will be like him.
One thing I know is Chelsea is a very difficult team to manage . . . players with egos and all sorts.
AVB will have his hands full.

debosky:
Maybe we need to put this in size 100 font for Lateefu to understand.

I feel sorry for the teams who changed their whole style of play to accomodate Diego. . . . Juventus and Wolfsburg for example. . .

Besides, you dont change style of play overnight, ask Torres. Diego woulda gone the same way as Deco. . . a misfit.

Ibime:
@ Nateevs,

Shut your trap! Ninny midfielders I referred to were exactly Diego and Moutinho. For you, Diego was your number one choice. The more ninnier the better for you. VDV and Sneijder I said would be alright, but not as a replacement for Lamps. My barbs were aimed mostly at Diego who must play at the point and has no usefulness otherwise. Who are you to tell me about VDV and Sneijder like say you discovered them when as an Ajax fan I've prolly watched them since their debut. My friend you better stick to your Robinho and Diego stories and stop talking megedefegede here. What can you tell me about VDV and Sneijder? Was I not the one who told you why Real were unhappy with Sneider ie, his girlfriend had left him and he was depressed and gaining weight, not putting effort in training etc. There is no player in footie you can tell me about hombre, I know every detail.

And Moutinho has been poor at Sporting for 2 seasons at least, hence he missed out on 2010 WC whilst Sporting finish midtable. If Moutinho had been sold to a British club, he woulda been sold for £7m, not the £9m he was sold to rivals Porto for. According to you, he was a direct replacement for Lampard. Replacement for who? Please google his goals and assists for last season then we talk about replacements. At best he can only compliment Lampard. We had this debate in summer 2008, the following season after which Lamps scored 20 goals and 20 assists and the season after he scored 27 goals and 18 assists. If you had any dignity, during which time Diego (your no1 choice) went from grace to grass. If you had any dignity, you woulda conceded the argument by now instead of colouring the argument in another light. The debate was never whether these are good player but whether they are replacements for Lamps, which they are definitlely NOT. Bros, this is 2011, not 2008. Come with something new abeg.

debosky:
Found out how? Majority of Chelski managers get fired for not winning and nateevs believes this current one is somehow different because he paid more money to get him?

Even the ones fired mid-season can be attributed to a trend indicating they wouldn't win so what is the noise about?

Saying Roman will give Boamorte a chance (maybe because he has a beard like RA ) when he's serially fired coaches in the past 8 years?

Talk about BS - you invented the stuff.

I didn’t say ALL managers are fired for not winning; however the number of coaches fired for not winning is not insignificant

It is unreasonable to think Roman is suddenly interested in a coach he'll allow to stay if he comes close but doesn't win, when "all" the previous managers have been sacked for not winning.
His age notwithstanding, he wouldn't have been hired if not for his trophy winning at Porto - if he fails to deliver one in his first season, I'm afraid he'll be sacked just like the rest of them.

debosky:
@ nateevs

That was simply some hyperbole at play and nothing more. The fact is, apart from two midseason sacks, the majority (3 out of 5) get fired at the end of the season after failing to win. That's 60% of the sack rate.

Ibime:
Wesley Sneijder spent all summer 2009 waiting for an interested party before Inter copped him for £13m. Now Chelsea could bid up to £40m for the same player.

Joao Moutinho (poor man's Modric/Valero - and one of Nateevs "Lampard-replacements" flopped in Sporting, was available for £9m last summer, now being quoted at £35m to join Chelsea, in order to do nothing but pass ball in midfield with sum total of 2 goals and 2 assists per season.

I didn’t say ALL managers are fired for not winning; however the number of coaches fired for not winning is not insignificant

debosky:
It is unreasonable to think Roman is suddenly interested in a coach he'll allow to stay if he comes close but doesn't win, when all the previous managers have been sacked for not winning.
His age notwithstanding, he wouldn't have been hired if not for his trophy winning at Porto - if he fails to deliver one in his first season, I'm afraid he'll be sacked just like the rest of them.

debosky:
Scolari was stylish for quite a while before fading, even Carlotti was arguably the most stylish - the number of goals Chelski were scoring at the end of 09/10 and early 10/11 was the height of style, yet that didn't save him.

Like I said earlier, without trophies he is doomed, just like every other Chelski manager that has gotten fired.

It is unreasonable to think Roman is suddenly interested in a coach he'll allow to stay if he comes close but doesn't win, when all the previous managers have been sacked for not winning.

His age notwithstanding, he wouldn't have been hired if not for his trophy winning at Porto - if he fails to deliver one in his first season, I'm afraid he'll be sacked just like the rest of them.

debosky:
Secondly, if Jose was negative, we can as well expect his protege to be negative too, afterall what he spent his time at Chelski doing was studying other teams in order to find ways to nullify them.

FBS:
Anyone who says Jose made Chelsea play "bad/negative" football is talking dodo. Yes I said it.
We were "perfect" in the league and once we scored its bye-bye to other teams. How can that be bad?
Our wingers were FLYING! Robben, "Arugbo" a.k.a Duff . . .heck even JC was on FIRE!!!

Going forward, AVB it is!
Looks very much like a mini Jose to me but at the same time, very much his own man at 33. (kai, why I no take football seriously huh? )) 

but with Falcao rumored to be coming, this one na striker-overkill ooh! midfielders nko?

Anyways, RA is ready to spend, who is we to complain?

Mo ni go on soun! 

debosky:
Aight Nateevs, I was yanking your chain a bit, but surely you don't believe he won't get fired for simply finishing top 4??

Even you can't have such a brief memory. . .

One would think Roman is some logical guy the way you talk. . . we all know he's a whimsical owner who will get whatever he wants. The buy out clause is insignificant - it probably doesn't fuel RA's yacht in a year.

Did all this knowledge prevent him and his boss from being unceremoniously sacked?

Not only is this naive, it's outright daftness - there's nothing to suggest he'll be fired?

Blimey, a world cup winning coach was fired and there's nothing to suggest some 33 year old, wet-behind-the-ears JM wannabe will get sacked?

Was Scolari outside the top 4 when he got fired?

Carlo won the first double in the club's history, gets sacked for coming second and there's nothing to suggest he'll get fired?

The ONLY certainty is that he will get fired.

As a glorified match recorder? Even the kit men at Chelski can claim to know what makes Lampard and co tick. Does that make them good managers?

Which brilliant managers? The guy who got his coaching badge with him and now coaches Hibernian? Brilliant indeed.

coogar:
i love your optimism. . . .

however, chelsea fc are a different ball game. to thrive in chelsea, a manager must deliver(trophies, titles, glory, etc). the fact that abramovic triggered a buy-out clause means nowt. . . .he must create an enabling environment for this young manager to thrive - and that is letting him build his own squad, buy his own players, etc. mourinho was able to do that and his brilliance helped him to achieve all what he achieved.

since mourinho's departure, roman has been a bit tight with money. no other chelsea manager had the luxury jose had in terms of revamping the squad and this is why the ones after him have failed in a way. we all know roman is obsessed with the european trophy and that is a step too high for villas-boas with monstrous clubs like barcelona, real madrid, man utd etc still in europe.

you don't need an oracle to see where this might end for the rookie . . . .roman comes from a different world(despite his passion for football). in roman's world, when you are paid to do something - you must deliver results. if you don't, there's no reason to keep you. this ruthlessness is what made him a stinking billionaire and he will not make a u-turn because he wants to help the career of a portugese rookie. . . .villas-boas must deliver for chelsea or face the firing squad(like ancelotti, avram grant, hiddink)

ritchboy:
Modric can't top assist list when the likes of Cesc and Nani are still breathing.

slimshay:
All said and done though Gervinho is a better player.

nateevs:
£30m. Or jog on . . . .

debosky:
The way things are going, Arnesen will uproot the academy building and ship it to Hamburg as his next move.

Ibime:
I wanna know what Ron Gourlay is doing whilst players like Alexis Sanchez, Gervinho, Xherdan Shaqiri, Eden Hazard and such move closer to transfers.

Meanwhile, Inter-Milan and Real would like Essien for £18m but he says he dont wanna go because he enjoys eating yam, stew and turkey tail in Ekubanz restaurant on Tottenham High Road. . . . or is it because he knows his legs cant cut it in a new move so let him enjoy the last 4 years of his contract while being unproductive?

Dude, for 50 million Mama Charlie you're expected to hit the ground running; infact, your expected to spend more time on the run than Usain Bolt  .
Jokes apart, this is a player on the decline. Check out his stats(App/goals) in the Premiership: '07-08=33/24 ,'08-09= 24/14, '09-10=22/18, '10-11=23/9  Jan-May '11(Chelsea)=14/1.  Stats. don't lie!.

Granted it wasn't his fault that he was overpriced and Chelsea took the bait, but he was bought to SCORE GOALS!. He failed miserably in this task and he has to take some of the flak for this nightmarish season. Of course, if he had brought the goal we won't even be having ths discussion; but he has not! and that is difficult to take.

He hasn't added much to the team either-compare him to a certain Wayne Rooney, and you'll see what I mean. When Rooney had his personal goal drought he was still 'untouchable' in the first team because he was bringing other players into play and creating loads of scoring opportunities for his team mates.

Saying 'Torres has played in the league and knows what it takes' is not enough either-because the soul may be willing but the flesh( or legs) is weak. Torres has not been the same player since his knee surgery in April 2010. Building our title challenge, next season, around him is a big No-No

By the way, who're you calling fickle?     So not cool, mon ami