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slimshay:
All said and done though Gervinho is a better player.

On what grounds have you come to this conclusion? Broda Shade!

nateevs:
£30m. Or jog on . . . .

What part of this is difficult to understand?

£30m. Or jog on . . . .

debosky:
The way things are going, Arnesen will uproot the academy building and ship it to Hamburg as his next move.

I am actually quite surprised he hasn't turned up with a bus yet. While I sat here afraid of Arnesen stealing away our young players, little did I know someone at the club was actually sanctioning the moves to do Arnesen a favour. How else do you explain a 2-year loan of a player to a club whose technical director has already supposedly "stolen" 3 of our youngsters?

This is not Arnesen, this is Chelsea's move!.

I am hoping the next Chelsea manager will try to experiment with Luiz at DM. I have this feeling . . . . .

Meanwhile, Jefferey Bruma is set to join Hamburg on loan. . . . For 2 years!
Yes 2 years!

Ibime:
I wanna know what Ron Gourlay is doing whilst players like Alexis Sanchez, Gervinho, Xherdan Shaqiri, Eden Hazard and such move closer to transfers.

Meanwhile, Inter-Milan and Real would like Essien for £18m but he says he dont wanna go because he enjoys eating yam, stew and turkey tail in Ekubanz restaurant on Tottenham High Road. . . . or is it because he knows his legs cant cut it in a new move so let him enjoy the last 4 years of his contract while being unproductive?

£18m for Essien? I will drive him there myself. That's the highest we will ever get for him.

Dude, for 50 million Mama Charlie you're expected to hit the ground running; infact, your expected to spend more time on the run than Usain Bolt  .
Jokes apart, this is a player on the decline. Check out his stats(App/goals) in the Premiership: '07-08=33/24 ,'08-09= 24/14, '09-10=22/18, '10-11=23/9  Jan-May '11(Chelsea)=14/1.  Stats. don't lie!.

Your assertions are skewed mate. Take at look at the stats you are pulling out. You are sinking your own ship. In 09/10, that's four goals shy of a 1-1 apps to goals ratio. That does not look like a decline to me. You are looking at the sheer amount of goals scored without considering the number of games in which he scored them and calling that a decline. Does that not count?

Plus don't act like he was playing across the Atlantic. We all know how he was the be and all at Liverpool. Many reports abound of how he was constantly rushed back from injury without adequate rest because he was the only one who knew how to score a goal at Liverpool. Benitez sold off Crouch, Bellamy, Keane and spent over 60m on dead legs.

Granted it wasn't his fault that he was overpriced and Chelsea took the bait, but he was bought to SCORE GOALS!. He failed miserably in this task and he has to take some of the flak for this nightmarish season. Of course, if he had brought the goal we won't even be having ths discussion; but he has not! and that is difficult to take.

He hasn't added much to the team either-compare him to a certain Wayne Rooney, and you'll see what I mean. When Rooney had his personal goal drought he was still 'untouchable' in the first team because he was bringing other players into play and creating loads of scoring opportunities for his team mates.

Saying 'Torres has played in the league and knows what it takes' is not enough either-because the soul may be willing but the flesh( or legs) is weak. Torres has not been the same player since his knee surgery in April 2010. Building our title challenge, next season, around him is a big No-No

By the way, who're you calling fickle?     So not cool, mon ami

You are countering your own argument. One time you want him to hit the ground running, the next time you think it's a big NO NO building our title challenge around him. Also you said he was bought to score goals in one argument and in another you liken him to Rooney. You have to stand by one argument.

Torres is not Rooney ok? Fergie deployed Rooney to play from deep because Rooney can. Simple! If we want Rooney, we should have offered Utd 50m. We didn't, so we bought Torres. And Torres like RVN doesn't play from deep to bring people into play. How do you think Hernandez will fare if he was asked to do what Rooney does?


I said Torres should have scored some glaring opportunities. I acknowledged that in my previous post. However, 4 months in a Chelsea shirt with a sudden change of style and system and a lack of confidence, you need to have patience. Have a go all you want end of next season after he's had a full season. For now, he's not worthy of the criticism.

Ask around here, I am the one who will criticize and ask to bench any dude that under performs for too long. And I am not a Torres fan either. I just know when you are supposed to be patient.

[quote author=tayo_ast link=topic=673205.msg8509934#msg8509934 date=1307965928]What lang is that?

Yoruba for lone tree in d bush?[/quote]You are feeling me then!

3 poster thread.
This has become.

Buncha fickle fans. Torres despite his outrageous 50m move is one of the best strikers to grace the earth. He's had one bad season. Just one. He didn't price himself at 50m. Roman was stupi.d to buy him at that amount. Especially when it was clear for the world to see it was his worst season ever.

However, saying he offers nothing is bs at best. It's like comments coming from people who don't watch Chelsea games. He hasn't brought the goals but if he did, would anyone be complaining he doesn't offer anything?

It's complaining about the wrong things. Dude has had just barely 5 Months in a blue shirt. He played in a partnership with Drogba, the most ineffective strike team ever, and when he's played on his own, Carlotti never deployed the wide men as wingers. True he had many chances he could have converted with his eyes closed, the reality however is that, he switches styles, friends, manager, tactics, style of play, mid-way through the season and anyone expecting him to hit the ground running is deceitful. Not even our beloved Drogba did. Veron and Sheva came from different leagues. Torres has played in the league and knows what it takes.

Taking into account that he walked into a Chelsea side that was losing games all over and had it's worst run to a PL campaign for 10 years, it's no wonder the disease spread.


My point is, cut this pointless criticism, lock it up somewhere until the end of next season. Until then, let's see how they promised to build the team around Torres. The next manager should watch hours of tape of how Torres succeeded at Liverpool and try to infuse that into the overall supposed new playing style.

Until then, just have some flipping patience.

Why would you want to sell Torres?

ritchboy:
And you are a chav, you don't know anything about, well, anything.

You probably need a map, a compass, and a pair of binoculars to locate your arse.

Of course I do. We chavs always needed a compass to find everything.
Guess what we found while we were loitering ? Trophies!!! Loads of them!


What did you find?

BlueDiva:
Ok nateevs, u really seem to believe in the kid.
But please don't tell me we should even consider that amount.

What's the latest on our manager?
I'm beginning to hear too many names,
Rijkaard, Van Basten, J. Leow (the German dude) etc

Diva, I will be embarrassed as well if we spend 41m on the dude.
I am very sure the club is not going to cave in to their demands.

Negotiations are on and I believe that after the Copa Libertadores, a more reasonable price will be reached.
If we are to break the monopoly of Barca, you need players that can dagbose like Messi.
Neymar can dagbose.

ritchboy:
I'd rather pay 50 naira for pure water than 20 naira for sh[i]i[/i]t. . . That doesn't mean pure water is worth more than 5 naira or sh[i]i[/i]t should be sold to begin with.

How can you know pure water from shi.t? You are Arsenal fan.
What do you know about players worth over 5m?

BlueDiva:
@nateevs,
I've watched Neymar play and he is skillful.

He is too lightweight to play in our team especially with our 'power' style of play.
Trust me, Neymar will most likely flop at Chelsea.

Perhaps he will thrive in Spain and is worth that much.
My point is he ain't worth 40 to us.

Aw do you mean he is too light weight to play in our team?
We are not the ones to kick him. Why would he flop?
There's nothing to suggest he will flop as at today.
Like I said sometime ago, the PL's physicality is overrated.
Players with skill have come and proven time and again that they will cut it.

If what we hear is true, we are moving away from all that energy and no skill football.
We are moving to a more delightful way of playing, hence the recent links with players like Neymar, Pastore, Montolivo, Sanchez, Sneijder, De Bryune, Lukaku, Van Der Weil. If not, we will be looking for Essiens all over the globe and be looking to get JM back or Sam Allardyce.

I seem to be the only one on here who supports this transfer.

ritchboy:
Neymar = Robinho 2.0

In your mind. I'd rather spend 30m on Neymar than 20m on Jordan Henderson.

Of course it's not rocket science.

BlueDiva:
Neymar for 40mill?
Which Neymar? The effiminate chap?

I hope foolishness is not becoming a norm at the Bridge.
We're yet to come to terms with Torres' fee.

The chap is skillful but not worth more than 15mil IMO

While I am not saying we should possibly buy him for that much, you on the other hand are not suggesting he is not worth that solely becos he is "effeminate" are you?

How do you come to the conclusion he is not worth more than 15m by the way?

His buy out clause 45m Euros. (How they reach that I don't know) He 's 55% owned by Santos and 45% owned by private investors. This is what happens with players that are owned by private investors. Ditto Ramires and Tevez.


He renewed his contract last year by signing for 4 more years. Last time I heard, he was on 40,000 a week even at Santos.
He is the most promising Brazilian in the world now. He's been called up to the National team. He's score 3 goals in 5 apps. His stats for Santos, 66 goals in 134 apps. And a number of assists I cannot draw up now. And he is only 19 for heaven's sake. Not saying he is the best thing since slice bread but this is the sorta player who goes on and becomes a world beater and we start chasing around for 60m. I am willing to stick my neck and say he will become world's best someday.

I cannot substantiate this but I was reading through an online magazine that rated Neymar as the third world's most marketable footballer behind Ronaldo and Messi.


Surely the dude has to be worth more 15m.

SUV:
Nobody in this forum has advised people not to use high-power consuming appliances.

Olawoye:
but I'd be sincere here; look your interest away from powering your AC with inverter. Though it will work, but drains your battery out faster than we can even estimate here. .

JUO:
@sugafoot as an expert i will advice u to remove ac from that list and post the rest.
N.B I WILL ADVICE U TO REMOVE ANY DEVICE THAT IS MORE THAN 250WATTS IF U REALLY WANT TO ENJOY IT.
FOR THE BATTERY TO LAST DO NOT OVERLOAD

I quite understand now that from Ola's last response to my post that cost was a major factor in his advice. However, before then it was made to look, as evidenced from the posts above, that it is impossible to extend maximum energy, hence the talk of "overload" . There can only be overload when the source rate is fixed and requirement levels are variable.

If source rate and output can be extended then, there's little reason for overload unless cost becomes a factor. (Which has been explained).

I also believe that answers to the questions of duration of energy output should factor in the number of connected batteries possible in one array. e.g "After your load calculations, your energy will last you as many batteries you can afford" rather than "After your calculations, your energy will last x number of hours". - The former makes you believe the sky is the limit provided you have money, the latter paints a picture of fixed boundaries within which you have to work.

The reason I say so is that, like many posters previously, Ola has advice someone to use 2 inverters instead of requesting additional batteries. It looks like an inflexible solution to me. (Every inverter can only work with four batteries).


Now don't get me wrong, I know jack-all about inverters. I haven't got a clue and I am not trying to stir up an argument. I am just saying the propositions have been a tad confusing.



The only other explanation is that "Inverters can only work with a fixed number of batteries"


If that's the case, then please disregard everything I typed.

lalaboi:
Na inside cave you dey? lol

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1 Future England international
1 Highly rated Spanish Future International. . 


I just hope we dont settle for left over when the new man comes.  If we spend bloody 40mil on Neymar, i'll quit watching footy!

I am also a little unsettled about the silence. However, that's not to say the manager has not been working.
The press kept linking all managers to the Aston Villa. From Carllotti to Hughes and Martin Jol.

Yesterday the Chairman of Wigan was on Talksport confirming that Aston Villa had asked for permission to speak to Roberto Martinez 9 days before yesterday. Imagine all that while the media kept on linking every jobless manager under the sun with the Villa job.

My point is because the club has not released a statement does not mean work is not being done behind the scenes. I agree it could be quicker, our targets are different from Utd's. And if we are to go with the rumours, we may be seeing

Neymar, Sneijder, Van Der Weil, Lukaku and De Bryune. That's a a decent transfer window if we could secure those.



Unlike you though, if Chelsea buy Neymar for 40m, I am buying tickets to go see him.

[quote author=tayo_ast link=topic=673205.msg8490022#msg8490022 date=1307665785]seriously?[/quote]Bros, plenty don dey happen. Where you bin dey?

Unless there is something I am missing in elementary voltage calculations, is it not possible to connect an infinite number of batteries to the inverter to generate more power in the energy bank? I am assuming that this works as sort of a repository of the energy.

So more power in repository = more available power to use up. Which means I can if want to - use an AC, electric iron, PC, Fridge - add an infinite number of batteries (assuming I can) and use up as much power as available in the repository.

If this is true, then I think it is slightly wrong to advice not to use a high-power consuming device with an inverter without suggesting first that the client adds more batteries.

Has this advice been given on the premise of cost saving?



Only of course if my assertion is skewed and I need a total overhaul of my understanding of it all.

lalaboi:
Right now i refuse to believe any transfers linked to Chelsea. . . . No player in his right senses would sign for a club with no Manager. . . How is he sure the next manager really wants him

You really think the manager's still unknown? The manager was probably manager months ago.

So is Nasri leaving? Chelsea or Utd where would you prefer he goes to?

Honestly, Gokhan was one of those I really had high hopes for. I have written a few articles about him on here. Gokhan is the only left footed true wide player we have in all the reserves. I loved him for his directness. He creates a lot of chances. I can't remember where I saw the stats but I read that he has the highest assist rate for goals in the reserves.

He's settled really well since his arrival 3 years ago. I was thinking that Guus having been manager of Turkey might be able to help him develop. (Guus called him up to the Turkish National team for the game against Belgium last Friday). But it looks like it's not going to be so. What a shame. This only shows Arnesen deserved the sack. If he is that good, he should be walking away to another club with a long list of potential targets he has. Not the ones he already got for Chelsea.


I hear Arnesen is already whispering into the ears of Bruma. What hurts me the most is that he is taking away the ones that have a chance. I am really scared of him taking away Bruma, Josh, Kakuta, Sturridge and Piazon.

Bruma is settling into the DM role at Leceister City. A role I have always advocated that Carllotti should expose him to.

Gokhan Tore, is set to sign a three year deal with Hamburg.
Arnesen.




Meanwhile, it looks like Hiddink is on the verge of joining.

Odunnu:
Whats brilliant here?

Things ucan't see.

debosky:
What makes it ridiculous?

To answer your question, smiley face should suffice. But then again, most Chelski fans are too dense to comprehend tongue in cheek comments.

Tongue in cheek eh? Plan B, just in case reality steps in and exposes your idiocy.

slimshay:
Haba Debo, this is Lateef we are talking about here o. The £100m-no-transfer-for-5-years-genius.

Afofun. You have begun. I will silence you again. You want me to dig up your dirt? Eh?

ritchboy:
^^ Sturridge plays right wing at times, no?

Rio Ferdinand once said Adebayor is the hardest player he's had to mark so I'd still take such comments with a pinch of garri

But DS played on the right for most of his time at Chelsea.

debosky:
@ Nateevs

It seems Daily Mail and The Sun are both reporting as 'exclusive' something I mentioned earlier, that Cesc won't go for anything less than £50m.

So you is a genius because "the Daily Mail" and "the Sun" agree with your ridiculous assertion?