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StarBoard:
Bros no vex
I'm just pointing out a schoolboy error he made,I'm not calling into question his "supposed LB status" you people keep trumpeting him with.

Arsenal fan or ManU? Which one you be?
Let's begin the school boy thing well.

slimshay:
On the contrary Nateevs first time I said it if you remember was towards the end of last season. When I said the issue at the time wasnt that Chelsea wont win the league, no they were good for the goods, but its more about Chelsea not winning it next season (i.e. this one) if they dont spend loads of money like you used to.

Well first signs of injury and look what's happening. The simple truth is your first string are the bollocks, old bollocks as it may seem tho , but your second string is non existent. Do you realise you only have 2 defenders out injured? Just 2.

Bi a ba nsukun a ma riran.

No you know Chelsea will not win the league this season. If we didn't make rash decisions of laying everyone off, today we would have had Ivanovic and Carvalho as CB and Mikel, Ballack and Deco in midfield. The result would have been absolutely different.

Given that difference, how could you have thought we won't win the league? This is an argument of convenience and somewhat fraudulent. Tomorrow, Arsenal and ManU could go on a run of disastrous results and sink way low on the table. What would be ur argument then?

slimshay:
Ti a ba nsukun a ma riran

I remeber telling them this Chelsea team is getting tired. Now we are seeing injuries and a Brumalized bench. But dont hide behind that. Average age of the most inexperienced of inexperienced Chelsea bench 22.4yrs, average age of Arsenal bench 24 yrs, lets not even talk about their experience. Please when is Olowo Siberia going to spend another £200m to give you a deeper squad.

You probably started saying this 2 years ago. In that time, we've won 1 PL title, 1 community shield and 2 FA cups.
History has shown you've been "telling" us bullshhhit. . .

debosky:
Ok Lateef I'll let it slide this time.  

Just give up trying to defend this. . . .two losses in a week is a clear danger sign for Chelski. This is less to do with a right to win every game and more to do with a decline that has been masked by victories.

Give up? Seriously?
I know what is happening. You are hoping for other things to happen. That's just the difference.
We have Essien, Lampard, Terry, Alex, Benayoun all first team players out. Simple.
Decline? . . . I remember the fairy tales of "decline" and "ageing" last season.
We all know how it turned out.

Chelsea start to have hiccups around this time. December is a flurry of mixed results and performances.
January, February, we bounce back and stroll to the end while the pretenders blame it on not having a world class goal keeper. I have seen it all before.

I can never worry about Arsenal, I am very concerned about ManU who can't lose at this moment in time.

debosky:
Errrm. . . .as the man who invented Grammar (c) I cannot let this slide.

The correct usage is I am well versed. Maybe the pain of the loss has revealed the Lateef in you.  

Let the lamentations continue. . . . is the league table still lying with the lead cut to 2 points?  

Dude let it slide. . . I have been typing for ever and can't proof-read thoroughly.
I meant to use "vast" only . . the "well" shouldn't have been there.


And about the league table. .How many times have you been this close and ended up with nothing?

Can I ask why you are selling this for N1.6m?

BTW that 3rd paragraph was an extremely weak attempt at dodging the simple question directed at you. . . it ain't working so try again

I have answered the question many times tonight. You fail to read them. I don't questions about Chelsea mate. You've been on here long enough to know I am well vast at these issues. Visit my last two posts to view the answers to why the attack could not get a goal if you seriously desire an answer.

If having 10 shot at goal throughout 90 mins at SB against Fulham is your idea of a "fantastic performance" then you must be high on Madea's bosom milk

Exactly what I mean. We have to have 20 shots on goal for you to note a fantastic performance. We have to walk over the opponent before YOU think we gave a performance. You claim we've been awful in the last 6 EPL games. It is now shocking though to know not having more than 10 shots on goal is your idea of having an awful performance. No credit to the opposing team for defending well.

If however Kalou put 3 of those 5 chances away, we would have been talking 4-0. . What then would have called that same exact performance but just a difference in number of goals. Fantastic eh?

This is a pathetic point of view to take.

Fantastic performance at Anfield. . . .dude, upgrade your black and white TV to HD ASAP

Liverpool totally dominated the1st half at anfield and in the 2nd half, we raised the game but even that could never qualify as a "fantastic performance"

Mate, I need to remind you of a game. Barcelona - Chelsea UCL semi final, Barca dominated the entire game. We defended like a pub team for the 90 and many of us went away thinking we were cheated after a "fantastic performance". . If I remember, we had no more than 4 shots on goal the entire game.


ManU - Chelsea UCL final. . . 1 shot on goal throughout the first half of the game when Utd could have been 3 up. We all walked away thinking we could have won after a "terrific performance" . .

Bottom line: Performance is relative. Walking over one opponent and totally dominating the game could be classified "fantastic performance". At the same time, defending at another game for 90 mins may also be classified "fantastic performance" . .

Cancelling out the attack of another team and restricting them to a few shots on goal in one game may be "fantastic performance"; Also, limiting the full extent of your attacking prowess to limit the risk of recurring counter-attacks in another game may be "fantastic performance".


However you see "fantastic performance" from one point of view only; we have to run over the opponent. For this reason, I can't help but feel the feel I do about you Dude.

Ibime:
Ferreira just spreads uncertainty through the back 4 abeg.

A centre-back can be mentally unsettled just because he doesnt trust his partner. Ive experienced it many times playing CB.

He doesnt need to make a mistake to have negative influence.

Im sure Bruma has had call up to Holland squad before. Theres no reason Bruma would not perform twice as well as Ferreira.

Looking at the way we've played the kids so far this season, I can deduce it's the club's policy not to put the kids on the spot. My understanding is that if a kid is put on the spot and the result turns out disastrous like today's, it could affect the kid's confidence.

Now one could argue that if a kid turns out woeful, you support him and field him again. True and this is the stand point I take. The converse view however, is that the is pressure on any Chelsea Manager to deliver every single game and seen from the reaction of fans tonight.

How then can a manager pick a kid to go into a game, when there's a slight risk of a disaster and a consequent backlash from impatient fans? It's not going to happen any time soon.  If Terry and Alex are not fit for the next game, it'll most likely be PF and Ivanovic again.

FBS:
We all agree that these things happen but then it is a reaction and believe me they are only letting steam off! There are simply no boundaries at these point in time. That's the way it is.

Find below Lotti's comment after the match.

'I was surprised because it was a strange result but the result is normal, we didn't play well,' he conceded. 'We didn't play a good game, Sunderland played a fantastic game with fighting spirit, more mentality and we didn't show this kind of mentality.'
The Italian also accepted it was the worst performance since he took over in the summer of 2009.
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2220048,00.html

So what are you on about? Of course nobody in his right mind would say our players are crap (even know though ramirez guy is suspect   ) . Chelsea lost today. Bad. We hope for better days.

Carllotti has to say something to the fans through the media so we don't think he is at ease with the turn of events. Funny thing is he may go back to the dressing room and say "Guys I don't need to tell you that was a bad result at home. I want a reaction next game" and then say no more.

It wasn't the worst performance since he came. Didn't we not watch Chelsea away to Spurs last season? Now that was some lethargic performance because every one that could play was present.

It was not the same today. The attack had little or no supplies, there's no creativity from midfield because a midfield of Mikel, Ramires and Zhirkov cannot be creative. Zhirkov is not a LM. He is at best a LW or LB . . so when he plays in LM, you cannot expect the same level of performance. . .

Ramires is also not a RM. He is at best a DM or a stopper/spoiler. Like asking Fletcher to be creative.

Such situations cannot produce results. We would have escaped with a 1-0 win if we had a good defence but unfortunately, it wasn't to be.

This is the sort of performances we should expect from this midfield for some time. If the defence is ok, we'll have scrappy win. The opposing team will have to be really terrible for us to perform well.


So my point is: It is nothing to do with mentality. Simple as.

jalether:
Another round of opaks . . . I think you do this for a hobby

We had weaknesses at the back tonight which might explain the 3 goals we conceded, what about offensively, was JT and Alex's absence also responsible

for our lack of goal?   "Mr real chelsea fan"

When was the last time we lost a game this season despite producing a fantastic/good performance?

Is there a genuine or legitimate excuse for the below par performances in our last 6 epl games?

The last time we lost a game producing a fantastic performance. .  0-2 to Liverpool. . but I guess you will probably say that's not true because you are blinded by the fact that we lost.

The Fulham game is one of the last 6 EPL games you are referring to and Kalou single-handedly could easily have scored a hat-trick for himself. Do you produce such chances for a hat-trick by luck? What is you on about. . ?


If you cannot answer the question why we could not get a goal today, then there's no point having this discussion as you only prove what I said. You sit on the sidelines, in your comfort zone and simply say, they didn't perform. Why don't you tell us why you think they didn't perform, since you only enjoy the football when we are on top. . ?

jalether:
You dey mind nateevs

The team lost to an inferior side in the most dramatic fashion at home and fans are suppose to react nonchalantly to the defeat,  . are we robots?

not even robocop could pull it off

Abeg go siddon. Na for your mouth you dey call Sunderland inferior side. . You think the premiership is Chelsea's birthright? Could you call Sunderland inferior pre- Abramovic?

The team lost because the defence was shit. The right side of defence was poor. PF is not a CB, slow and almost inert and Bosingwa is playing his first 90 mins is over 12 months. He is still not match fit. I was watching on Chelsea TV some weeks ago Carllotti talking about how he intends to slowly ease Bosingwa in. You know it was clearly not his intention to play him today and he is still not 90 mins fit.

You expect them to forge miracles. They lost woefully and rightfully so. . but I never see you talk about the in-depth reasons of a loss . . . The only thing you yarn is "they didn't react, they lost disgracefully, they were this, they were that" . .

The is a lazy man's attitude to football punditry. Anybody can say all this. . .

FBS:
All these one na megedefegede.
It was bound to happen and it happened. Folks are simply reacting and they have the right to. end of story.
We support this club. come sun. . .come rain.  
Even Lotti himself will be embarrassed by this result how much more you and I.

PS: Why do we have a midfield with no creativity? Can you answer that?

Folks have a right to react all they want. . . except it has to be within the boundaries of common sense. The true fans dig deep and look for the core reasons we are not performing. The find and analyse these reasons. . Self inflicted or unavoidable?

When they then come to a conclusion, they use the result as a yardstick for judging the outcome of other games. . So when we don't perform well, they don't go over board calling for the heads of all and sundry. That's the way it should be . . Not reacting for the sake of it.


The Chelsea thread is the only thread that never has enough people to say "We lost . . So bloody what"? . .

The next lines you see are . . This player is crap, that player is crap. The manager should be fired  blah blah.
It's a bloody game of football, and we deserve to lose many times. . . sometimes we will lose without the faintest of desires to win. . So damn what? We will bounce back and probably still win the title? So what's the fuss about?

FBS:
cool down. I agreed that some of what he posted was crap but there were some element of truth in them.
You very well admitted that you hate to lose at home so what are you on about?
Folks are reacting to this defeat and you are saying yesterday was saturday like we don't already know that.
I for one rarely blame any player for that matter but to get thunked like this at home? You should expect a reaction.

I go into every season expecting something like this. So when it happens, I am able to shrug it off.
I don't expect all the players to be on form for 90 mins every single game.
Embarrassing events like this will occur time and again. Dust it off and move.

We have been spoilt by Mourinho.  Many of us (me inclusive) now think it's our birth right to never lose at home. . . well that's it, it will happen.

If you play CBs of PF and Ivanovic, every attack is going to look like a goal; made even worse by Bosingwa coming back from a year-long injury still not fit to play 90mins. Infact, that's his first 90 mins in 18 months. .

If you have a midfield combination of Ramires, Zhirkov and Mikel, it means zero creativity. And if you have a Drogba who hasn't scored in 6 EPL games, you know you are in for it.

When you take all that into consideration, you can't but come to the conclusion that any team with a little positive spirit will give us a good run for our money.

We've just got to hope we can hang in there until we see the return of Lampard, Essien and Benayoun into midfield. Until then, we've got to expect to see haphazard levels of performances and really, it's no one's fault.

jalether:
This is what happens when people excuse mediocrity. . . . our recent below par performances have been justified with "the end justifies the means" argument

It only takes a decent team with a positive attitude to expose our ineptitude

What do you mean below par performances? You expect us to win every game?

HNIC:
Not an excuse
We have been playing for three seasons without the core of the first team

Dude, yours is a perennial issue. . You can solve it if you choose to.
Ours is an excuse because when both teams have their 11 or near that fit, you still won't come close.

tunnytox:
Chelsea has never been so badly beaten! well this is EPL for you i'm loving this season

2005, we lost 3-0 to Middlesborough. . . we went on to win the title.

FBS:
Stop this abeg even though yes, I agree that some of what he posted was crap  
But again, the team has to produce the goods. This was if you will, was HIGHLY unexpected.
At SB?   You don't smile when someone comes into your home . .  .knocking you down into a comatose.

Stop what? Saying what he said is crap?
I hate losing at home. . I hate it.
But what can you do? It is simply not our day. Just forget the game and move on.

You have Lampard, Benayoun, Essien, Alex and Terry out. All these players will walk into the first team if they were fit. That's half the first team out. It's a bad day . . a very bad day . . Get on with it.

bandely:
Paulo Ferriera - Total Rubbish!
Bosingwa        - Shouldn't even be playing football

Mikel             -   A defensive midfielder that has intercepted only 1 pass the whole day?!   Very poor!

Drogba?  His Babalawo is dead
Anelka?   He should start playing as a midfielder!
Ramires? That guy should go to the gym, he needs build-up

Everything you said = Crap.
You guys can never stand Chelsea losing.
You call everyone names because of a loss.

FBS:
YZ is the stupidest player I know. WTF?  
Get the F%*( off.

Kakuta ON!

Really? It's just a loss. Calm down.
Next time you'l be calling him the best since Pele. .

Kakuta coming on. Nothing to lose. We either suffer a humiliation or the kids go on and be heroes.

Josh coming on.

Kalou?

HNIC:
After the win against Everton earlier by Arsenal
I was just wishing the Black cats  would come to West London and cop a draw
not knowing they had other plans in mind!

It really does not matter you know? What will Arsenal do?

Home defeat. We will be lucky to get away from this.

My own second half has gone to Munich.

I dey fear. Now we have to score 2 goals to stand a chance.

HNIC:
Koscielny was sent off last week,'miles' away from where that incident happened
Talk of consistency in refereeing

What do you mean miles away?

Unbelievable.

HNIC:
@Nateevs
Should Ivanovic still be on the pitch?

Of course not.

What was Drogba doing there? He never chooses the easy option. he almost cost us there.

Cech = Class.

Mikel is venturing. . I like this.
Dude is really getting into the zone.