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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 3:32pm On Aug 10, 2025
Only a few teams in recent history have stumbled on such a genius for only £40m
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 9:53pm On Jul 29, 2025
drisham:
Omo

And someone said Oscar Bobb has a higher ceiling than this guy💀💀
The person wey talk am don loss.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 6:16pm On Jul 23, 2025
Ibime:
You childeeesh fowl

Did they ever sign contract with you that they are Assad's defender or does that mean they installed Jolani?

What does "they allowed it to happen" mean and how does that equate to installing Jolani?

What sort of childish anti-Western fowlishness is this?

Assad knows they are coming for weeks and has his defenders. See me see trouble. I dey my dey dey watch fight between my enemies with popcorn, one
Gianluigi Buffon say I allowed it to happen.
I gave you the answer earlier but your continued languish in dumbland is what is causing this knowledge gap. Once you understand that a known terrorist organisation will never be allowed to take over a government right on the border of Israel, unless the US and Israel signed off on it, then you can live in peace.

How many scenarios do you want me to spell out for you?

You've gone from..... "they knew nothing about it" ....... to "they were only reacting to it"...... to "they knew, because .. well, everyone has intelligence" and back to.... "but they didn't install the government".

If you are silly enough to think that the US and UK will allow a known terrorist (Alqaeda and ISIS for that matter) take over Damascus only 200 miles from Israel (and I dare add Jordan sef) without a sign off, an okay, with concessions and agreements, then you are a lightweight and should not be having this discussion.

Gerrarahia Ibime. Which kain tin be dis?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 5:39pm On Jul 23, 2025
Ibeme:
Are you sure you are alright?

Everybody saw troop movements

What do you want them to do, bomb the HTS troops or start bombing Assad or warning Assad when it's not their fight?

They wait for the outcome and make the best out of the outcome.

Right now they can see troop movements in Sudan and Congo, does that make them a participant in what is going on there?

Everyone has satellite and can see what's going on, but the West is not allowed to observe, they must weigh in to defend Assad before Nateevs absolve them of complicity

Stop talking like a 👶🏽
Sharrap! You are always going on a tangent after a new round of BS.

In a desperate bid to absolve the West of complicity in the events of Syria, you said they were only "reacting" to what was going on..... as if to say they never knew what was about to happen until it happened. I tell you that's fallacy and that there's no way the CIA, MI6 and Mossad didn't have months of intelligence ahead of this event.

Now you are telling me everyone has intelligence and satellites. Hehehe. Like that's not what I told you before. Than you for taking 5 business days to agree with me.

Except by agreeing with me now, you are essentially saying that a group that was proscribed as a terrorist unit was moving on to topple Assad and they allowed it happen.

You see how you have come full circle to join me in the same place? Wake up Ibime. What's wrong with you today?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 3:51pm On Jul 23, 2025
Ibime:
Stop talking 🗑️

The whole world has intelligence. Having intelligence of troop movements is not supporting, arming or training any dog in a fight except to a Conspiracist. Not their fight.
You are the one the took the conversation to training..... you can go back and look at my post. I was concise about what I posted, and I meant exactly what I said.

And the point of your going on a tangent was to deviate sharply from your genocidal position.

Meanwhile you are accepting that they might have had intelligence of things moving, but claiming at the same time they were only "reacting".....

You don't know where you stand. You are all over the place.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 3:49pm On Jul 23, 2025
IjeBos:
You literally brought up the CIA and Iran in the same sentence where you are trying to deny that the CIA does things like back/push coups to overthrow leaders.
You could have use tons of other countries and not the one where the CIA literally backed a coup that overthrew the government.
Really?
You're a grown up, time to start reasoning like one.
Don't mind Ibime. In this day and age, he's trying to argue geopolitics like a pre-teen from the 90s. If there's no documented proof that the US, UK, or Israel was involved, then they were not involved, and that's the matter closed. Anyone else who thinks otherwise is crazy.

Coming from the same guy who tells us that all Journalists, Doctors, Nurses in Gaza are terrorists and so deserve to die.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 3:34pm On Jul 23, 2025
Ibime:
Translation of the bold - you don't know, have no proof and are forming Conspiracy theories to fit your anti-West world view.

The West is not reacting to situation they found on ground to achieve a stable outcome like everyone else is doing, instead they are doing "covert operations" which harms their Kurdish allies and with Jolani whose motto is "First Damascus, then Jerusalem"
Reacting to a situation. Obfuscation of mega proportions. Even Iran had intelligence of what was about to happen and warned Assad, but you are here telling me that with the expanse of the CIA and MI6 efforts over the region, they were only reduced to "reactionary" moves.

Dey dere.

Meanwhile, it's clear that your refusal to answer my pertinent questions leads us back to where we started from - you have no fact-based judgement in this whole matter.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 10:57am On Jul 23, 2025
Ibime:
You are waffling absolute 🗑️ from your deranged mind

You alleged UK installed Jolani (which means funding, arming or training) and when asked for proof, your proof is they deproscribed HTS like every other country in the world, or they "have interest" like every other country in the world

The West openly trains, funds and has soldiers stationed with the Kurds in Syria who are under attack from HTS and Turkey. That is proof of training and arming the Kurds, not Conspiracy theory

How are you different from those claiming France is sponsoring Jihadists to take over Burkina Faso?

You are not OK
Abeg. Who has time for this? If I didn't know you, I will think you were ex-intelligence playing a role on the Internet to navigate focus away from covet operations.

You want to live in a world where you can proclaim Western superiority, but at the same time live in denial about the various methods by which Western hegemony is achieved. You are either extremely gullible or you are just very wise but evading this topic for personal interests & survival.

The way you are going, you will probably tell us there are no Epstein Files.

Meanwhile, you continue to evade pertinent questions that I asked you.

Simple question. Forget state proscription. What is your personal view about Golani and HTS in general. As of today, are they terrorists or are they not?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 9:17am On Jul 23, 2025
Ibime:
You are too grown to be reasoning like a child

Russia was the first to delist HTS after just fighting them in Syria. Does that mean they installed Jolani after just bombing him the previous week?

This is real politik. States are doing what they must to protect their interest, you are using it to validate your anti-Western Conspiracy theories.

Same way you told us USA supported Iran to overthrow Saddam, a dëramged lie from the pits of an anti-Western mind

As Jolani was entering Damascus, Israel was bombing Syria's weapon dumps to stop them falling into his hands. Does that look like the action of an ally?

As HTS is now the power in Syria, countries will do what they must to protect their interests such as protecting the Kurds, minorities and ensuring it is not used as a staging point to attack other countries whether by ISIS or Iran. To engage with them you have to delist them as Russia has done, and most countries including ours are engaging with them as are China while assessing them, as they make the right noises about wanting to be a normal state who aren't a security threat to their neighbours. You left all the countries who are engaging with them including our rivals to focus on your anti-Western bias.

You are using this to fuel your anti-Western conspiracies, meanwhile it is Turkey who have solid evidence of helping to install them who still have them proscribed as a terrorist organisation in an attempt at obfuscating their role and influence.
You were the doing child politicking. Obfuscating and acting like the West had no interests in the fall of Assad.

Now you are coming to admit to me that states have interests? Welcome to my side.

Russia and Assad were allies. The West and Assad were not. That's the fundamental difference between the nonsense you are spewing and my position.

Russia has military and Airbases in Syria. Russia engaged with HTS for several reasons including so they don't lose millions of dollars and a foothold in region. But Russia is Russia, and Russia is a different topic.



Very different from the West and the discussion we have been having. You are condemning a whole people to death. I asked for your proof, you said because the West says so.


I pointed out that the West always has geopolitical interests, especially in the ME, and that proscription as a terrorist group by the West is no ultimate justification as to why some people should be condemned to death......because as we can see in the case of Syria, yesterday's terrorists have become today's friends.

You then carry me on the nonsense journey only to come back and admit what I have been saying this whole time? That interests usually play a hand in the proscription of people as terrorists
, and cannot/should not be used as the yardstick to justify murder?

You either stand for humanity, or you don't. The Nazis could also argue that there were interests and so they condemned the Jews to death. How evil does that sound? But because it's brown people, we don't care.


Simple question. Forget state proscription. What is your personal view about Golani and HTS in general. As at today, are they terrorists or are they not?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m):
basilico:
You llack understanding about Syria. The president is an Al Qaeda terrorist. He was propped up and armed by Turkey.
If you know sunni and shia rivalry you would not write that. Assad was helped by Iran and Russia. Unfortunately Hesbolla was getting arms from Iran through Syria. When they joined the fight , IDF had to eliminate Iran threat through Hamas and Hesbolla and eventually Iran. Russia is bogged down in the Ukraine war , wouldn't save Assad from Erdogan and ISIS . The rest is history. Now that Al Qaeda is the ruler, they have to be treated like the Taliban hoping being in power, promises of aid and recognition will usher in a semblance of peace.
But a snale is always a snake.
I normally don't reply you. But in this case I would.

It is you who lacks understanding of Syria. Since you are interested in making my point for me, I will educate you. The West took advantage of Russia being overstretched in the Ukraine and Hezbollah's decapitation by Israel in Lebanon, all because Assad is no friend of the West, and more importantly, Israel wanted regime change.

Nobody previously wanted a direct confrontation with Russia, so no one could actively do anything about it.

The Ukraine war brought an opportune moment. Russia was overstretched, Turkey had interests, and all parties found the right time. The West allowed Turkey to arm HTS and topple Assad, without looking to anyone that they directly did it. It's the easiest game in the play book - regime change and War by proxy.

Your post is making my point for me, nothing corrected. If the West didn't want it, Turkey had no unilateral power to do this. You think Turkey would topple Assad if Assad was pro-West?

You guys continue to think we are fools.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 4:12am On Jul 23, 2025
kingBolton:
nateevs what are your thoughts on Xavier Simon and if you were to choose between him and Rodgers who will you be going for?
I like both. I like players that can offer a better alternative to the offensive role that Enzo plays. Both can, but I prefer Rogers for athleticism and ready PL experience.

That said, there's a serious player in Xavi at 22.

I pay attention to cogent stats. Xavi makes 2.1 Key Passes per 90 and 2.5 Key Passes into the opp Pen Area per 90. To put things in perspective, Palmer average 2.3 and 1.88 respectively for the same stats.

2.26 shots per 90 with 40% on target. Palmer ranks at 3.35 and 36% respectively. Xavi has the advantage of more progressive carries per 90 than Palmer and Enzo.

Defensive Shift, Xavi is doing 5.25 ball recoveries per 90 1.3v tackles which trumps defensive contributions of any offensive players in Chelsea from last season, including Enzo.

Flexible, multi-discipline, high- intensity pressing player that can play across the forward line. He's a classic Maresca player.

It remains to be seen if he can translate these stats into the PL.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 3:14am On Jul 23, 2025
Ibime:
"Putting pieces together" with no evidence is what Conspiracy Theorists do, and the more outlandish the connections they make, the crazier they are, and from many comments you have made recently you clearly are one of the most extreme spectrum Conspiracy theorists, rooted in anti-West world beliefs. You are no different from the MAGA crowd, you are the mirror image of them on the far-left.

Nobody installed Jolani except Turkey.
You are the one that is no different from a MAGA crowd dude. You think a whole people should be condemned to death, because of a minority militant wing in their government.

That's extremism of epic proportions. Outlandish Nazi-like claims, that opens the doors and justification for ethnic cleansing on a scale we have not seen in our life time. It makes a mockery of why your ancestors sacrificed lives to defeat the Nazis.

What you are doing now, is how Nazis rose to power.


There's is nothing AntiWest about speaking truth to the West. I have an explicit NO-FASCIST principle, no matter which people it is against.

YOU want to live in a world that allows us to define a person or group as terrorists when we feel like exterminating them, then break bread with same people when it serves our geopolitical interests. Then you want us all to hush hush about it, because The West says so. Hypocrisy that stinks to the high heavens.


If I am the conspiracy theorist, why don't you tell us then why the UK, US and Israel collectively delisted HTS as a terrorist organisation in 2025? Tell us.


How naive are you to think that the US aids Israel with over $300bn, but then allows Turkey to install an Al-Qaeda/ISIS affiliated terrorist right on Israel's border with no say? That's nutcase geopolitical analysis.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 9:18pm On Jul 22, 2025
EnlightenedUFO:
How do believers in the tyrant predator live their lives. I hope their offline persona could be a less worse than what I usually think imagine.
So with all this whole Epstein files coverup, basilico et al ain't still seeing the light?
When people belong to a cult, no amount of factual evidence can sway them.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 9:12pm On Jul 22, 2025
Ibeme:
Please help us with the evidence below, thanks, as proof of sãnity.
Guy abeg free me. I can't help you put all the pieces together.

If UK reps are making an official visit to Syria for the first time in 14 years, in a bid to normalise relationship with a known terrorist, even before he's officially the leader, what does it spell to you?..... that the UK and Mi6 were mere bystanders? The UK swung swiftly to remove HTS from proscription as terrorist group.


You think the UK doesn't have foreign interests in Syria?

What do you want? A signed document from David Lammy confirming boots on the ground helping HTS. If you think there wasn't a coalition of Mi6, CIA and Mossad agents on ground in Syria providing intelligence during this whole saga, then youse just naive bruv.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m):
Ibeme:
Al Aqsa TV is a terrorist group officially so what are you still arguing about

If you care to read your own countries Terrorism Act you will know that glorifying terrorism is considered terrorism and if a terrorist group is proscribed it becomes a crime to invite or express support for it which Al Aqsa do daily

That's not my opinion, that's law, anything else is for your pocket.

You have floated many conspiracy theories that belong in the mind of a complete 🥜🥜 case so please provide the Jolani evidence as requested so we can know ourselves.
I know my own country's terrorism act. And I know exactly what I am saying as it concerns the act. It's my risk.

I know you are a high-profile Accountant with a top company, and you cannot risk being bundled up in any misconstrued opinions on Terrorism. Man must protect daily bread source and that. I get it.

So I am going to assume that behind closed doors, there's no way you are towing this absolutely ridiculous line but for the fear of great loss.


On Jolani, I swear I don't know what it is your are asking me to provide proof of. Did you even read what I first said?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 7:14pm On Jul 22, 2025
Ibeme:
I don't need all this shalaye. If you like don't call Boko Haram a terrorist group because USA said they are. Al Aqsa is a terrorist group officially whether you or I like it or not.

I just need you to provide evidence of UK funding, training or supplying Jolani. We are not debating anything, just kindly provide the above. I need proof of sãnity before I engage further cos I don't join issues with Yaba Left people or Conspiracy theorists whether on the far-right or far-left.
So we conclude that you have no proof of all Journalists in Gaza being terrorists. So you have been talking nonsense this whole time

Therefore when I say more journalists have been killed in this conflict than all conflicts combined since WW2, don't argue with me.

You are welcome!
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m):
Ibime:
Al Aqsa TV is a terrorist group, if you like cry.

Can you provide a shred of credible evidence that The United Kingdom of Great Britain either funded, trained or supplied Jolanis forces in Syria. Answer properly and carefully. Let's know that we are talking with a madman
I could not give a flying phuck what the US calls anyone. The US calls Al Qaeda a terrorist group but allows Ahmed Al Shaara rule Syria.

As a matter of fact, Syria is designated by the US as a state sponsor of terrorism. So we have a designated Terrorist, allowed to rule over a State that sponsors terrorism, according to the US.

This is your proof!

You are trying to make sense by quoting a body that lacks credibility over its own definition and designation of terrorism, it's tolerance and direct sponsorship of said parties, yet passing it on as proof of terrorism.

By your mad logic, how many Syrians have suddenly become Al-Qeadan and by extension, terrorists overnight? Shey you dey see as the madness dey expand?

Are all the Doctors, Nurses, Engineers, Teachers, Police and Journalists in Syria all now terrorists as well?

But you still think I am the problem. You don lost bro.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 6:26pm On Jul 22, 2025
cococandy:
Those 28 countries must be terrorist sympathizers
The 28 countries are all Hamas.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m):
Ibime:
This must be the same Yaba Left logic you used to blame the West for Saddam's invasion of Kuwait below and went further to lie that the West backed Iran of all people to remove Saddam (which never happened). If I let you type long enough, you will blame the UK. Ireland, Spain and Portugal for Saddam's gassing of the Kurds.



Can you provide a shred of credible evidence that The United Kingdom of Great Britain either funded, trained or supplied Jolanis forces in Syria. Answer properly and carefully. This is a test of your menthol health.
Alhaji, dress left. You are asking me to bring a shred of evidence about intelligence-related matters, but telling me that all Doctors and Nurses in Gaza are terrorists without any proof.

Do you understand how much madness there needs to be to bundle a whole people as terrorists? You think you are the good guys, but this is just as mad as the Nazis saying that all Jews deserve death.

Guy, I am not the problem. You bring proof that all Journalists, Doctors, and Nurses in Gaza are terrorists.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 5:27pm On Jul 22, 2025
Ibime:
No it's Alaafin of Oyo that installed Syria Government

I discuss facts not conspiracy theories and it's obvious you are missing some 🔩🔩🔩 . So 🥜🥜🥜 you haven't mentioned Turkey twice now and even went as far as bringing UK into it.
It's not my fault if your geo-political conclusions are not robust enough. You want me to think Turkey went and installed Ahmed Al Shaara unilaterally without America's blessing? You are high on PH palm wine.

Let's not be silly. Nothing happens in the middle east without the US, UK and Israel okaying it. Someone that killed American and British soldiers?

The US gave a thumbs up on the operation because it furthers Israels foreign interest. Simple! And by extension, the UK is read in on the intelligence and they fall in line. If they all didn't want it, it didn't happen.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 5:19pm On Jul 22, 2025
Ibime:
My fact based judgement is that the journalists work for Al Aqsa TV owned by Hamas and in direct employment by Hamas

Al Aqsa is the mosque in Jerusalem and is a rallying cry for extermination of Jews in Jerusalem

Hamas is a proscribed terrorist organisation in the country of both of our citizenship, Great Britain and therefore anyone in their employ is a designated terrorist just like anyone in the employment of Al Quaeda or ISIS

These are facts only. If you like you can cry emotionally.
My second response to your "fact-based" judgement.

Hamas is the government of the day in Gaza. Because western alliances (and subsequently the media) don't allow you see these differences is a big shame.

Hamas runs everything. The Establishments, Police, Hospitals, Media, transportation.... name it. They need ordinary Palestinians to run these establishments. You think all ordinary Palestinians who are working in government to earn a living are all terrorists?

This is incontrovertible fact that your never thought about this deeply.

The level to which you will go to demonise people to justify their murder is grotesquely alarming.

The nonsense you said up there is synonymous with saying because all hospitals in Gaza are Hamas-controlled, therefore all Doctors, Nurses, Paramedics et al are in direct employment by Hamas and so deserve death.

It is synonymous with saying that all those in direct employment of the Nazi - Federal Workers in all federal parastatals deserve death because the Nazis got blacklisted.

You see what level of madness things quickly descend into when judgement is based on idealogy rather than facts?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m):
Ibime:
My fact based judgement is that the journalists work for Al Aqsa TV owned by Hamas and in direct employment by Hamas

Al Aqsa is the mosque in Jerusalem and is a rallying cry for extermination of Jews in Jerusalem

Hamas is a proscribed terrorist organisation in the country of both of our citizenship, Great Britain and therefore anyone in their employ is a designated terrorist just like anyone in the employment of Al Quaeda or ISIS

These are facts only. If you like you can cry emotionally.
Sir, Al Qaeda is a proscribed terrorist organisation in the countries of both our citizenship, but we just worked with the Israelis and Americans to install said terrorist - who killed our soldiers - as leader of Syria.

Our country of citizenship backed Sadam to invade Iran, and subsequently, Quate, and then we went to back Iran to remove Sadam from government.

Our country stood by and stands by Israel as they butchered over 3000 women and children in the Sabra and Shatila massacre.

Our country stood by Israel and they opened fire on, and murdered over 100 women and children in the Qana massacre in 1996.


Our country stood by Israel as they staged a false flag operation as the USS Liberty in 1967, killing about 40 Sailors and injuring over 100.

Our country stands by and watches The Mossad spy on the Mi6 and the CIA, yet continues to stand by them.

Our country says anything, what is your fact-based conclusion?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 9:36am On Jul 22, 2025
Ibime:
So where are the non Palestinian journalists killed and which company do they work for as asserted by Bayelsa

Couldn't GAF about your Hamas TV journalists killed, they are terrorists
You have no fact-based judgement on this matter. That is the only one thing that is clear to see here.

The only reason you conclude that Palestinian journalists are terrorists is based 100% on what Israel and the IDF said. There is no single independent body that has corroborated this information and you have no other way of corroborating this information.

Why do you think this information is true? Tell us.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 9:18am On Jul 22, 2025
Ibime:
It's a simple question, bring them out
Guy, the free press is prohibited from covering the conflict in Gaza by the Israeli zionist government. There is not a single person from the international press on ground covering the conflict. None, ZERO, Zilch.

This is a known fact that people like me have understood from the get go.

What are you asking about?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 7:21am On Jul 22, 2025
I went away for a day, and I see lies everywhere by Zionist sympathisers. Where do I start from?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 7:10am On Jul 22, 2025
Ibime:
Which non Palestinian journalists have died and name their company, so we can check them out, thanks
I cannot believe you asked the question. This tells me everything I need to know about what you know about this conflict.

This is shockingly unbelievable!
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 8:24am On Jul 21, 2025
Ibeme:
I have stated unequivocally and with my conscience that there is no deliberate targeting of Civilians by the STATE of Israel

All data and casualty rates back that up, that does not include an individual soldier going rogue under pressure like soldiers in every other army in the world have done under wartime conditions including our own British soldiers. Hence my use of the word STATE of Israel.

Everything from leaflets, warnings, maps and safe passage routes have been provided to the Palestinian people

Israel has dropped as much bombs on Gaza with TNT equivalent to 3 Hiroshimas and only 55k overinflated deaths reported. Does that look like indiscriminate targeting of civilians or targeted bombing of Hamas each time they are spotted or believed to be holed up somewhere.

Hamas continue to fire from civilian buildings.

If one of these bleeding hearts was platoon commander seeing their men under sniper or mortar fire, I want to see them not call in airstrike which is standard military procedure and put their mens lives at risk in order to answer a lie about civilians being targeted.

The only people who target civilians DELIBERATELY and INDISCRIMINATELY are the terrorists these fowls support.
Yet there have been more members of the press killed in this conflict than all conflicts combined since WW2. But I guess you never came across this data. If you have, did your research it, or did you dismiss it like you are doing the others?

There have been more humanitarian aid volunteers killed in this conflict than in all conflicts combined since WW2.

We watched the events of World Central Kitchen staff targeted by drones and killed. Humanitarian aid workers moving in a convoy, in a deconflicted zone, coordinates shared prior with the IDF, world kitchen central logo boldly and visibly inscribed on the vehicles' roof tops, for clear identification...... all standard protocols observed.

Follow main-steam media, and all you see is BS story that the vehicles were struck in what was considered a misidentification. This was after they first blamed Hamas for this incident.

But switch to alternative reporting and you see the evil that unfolded in what can only be described as a targeted attack to prevent aid from distributed to Gaza. The convoy was followed by the drones for 1.8km. The evil in this tragic attack alone, blows the nonsense you are typing completely off the hinges.



The problem with your data is your source. Filtered source from Israeli-owned apparatus. If you really want to feed your conscience, then make an effort to get out of your bubble and be informed.


You wan dey tell me Israeli State no dey target civilians. Na today? The victims of Sabra and Shatila still remember.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 8:53pm On Jul 20, 2025
Ibime:
grin grin grin

Hamas Ministry of Health

They should first identify the Hamas fighters inside the number and split them out since they know their members.

Only a fowl relies on data from a terrorist organisation whose strategy is to be alarmist after poking a bees nest. And family of anyone who dies from heart attack or diabetes in Gaza wants to fill in "martyrdom form" so their relative can be counted amongst the saints.
This article is from May 2024, when the eyes of your ilk were closed. This was only 8 months into the conflict. Another 14 months has climbed on top, and unless you are in perpetuity of the echo-chamber, you will realise that the general sentiment of the war has changed all over the world, Everyone is talking about deliberate underestimating the number of murdered.

Why should we believe the words of a government that refuses the international press to cover the war? What are they hiding if they are not worse than Hamas?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m):
IjeBos:
Your take on this seems so devoid of everyone else's.
Even people in the Trump administration think Netanyahu is acting like a madman.
I'm sure you'll call them antisemites as well.
You're defending someone even the Trump administration and all its immorality is having a hard time privately defending.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/white-house-concerned-by-madman-netanyahus-behavior-us-officials-say-in-wake-of-syria-strikes/
Ibime is like one of those pro-Israel supporters to the marrow. It's an ideological thing for them. Never fact-based. Nothing Israel does is wrong..... How dare you subject Israel or Netanyahu to fact-based scrutiny?

Ibime is crediting Israel for protecting humanity by bombing people, but failing to remember that they installed a well-known Al-qeada terrorist as ruler of the new regime in Syria. Why? Because it furthers Israel's greater Israel project.

Tomorrow when they are no longer friends, and Israel remembers these are terrorists from Al-qeada, Ibime will be back to say they are protecting humanity, when they move on to yet another project.

Protecting humanity by installing terrorists in power.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 7:14pm On Jul 20, 2025
Ibime:
Thank God the good guys are the ones with the bombs and the power cos we have seen how the Hamas mindset do with Yazidis, Druze and on Oct 7th

There are 55k dead in Gaza according to the Hamas authorities. An obviously inflated figure given the source to include made-up figures and those who die from natural causes. Hamas has tens of thousands of members who are legitimate kills within that 55k. The rest are casualties of Hamas fighting tactics. If you are soldier under mortar fire from a building, you are calling in an airstrike on that building. Any civilian in that building will die alongside the Hamas terrorist who chose to put their lives at risk. There is ZERO intentional targeting of civilians by the state of Israel. Be quiet if you dont know how war works.

The 55k casualty figure is a small amount for guerilla warfare in a populated city, you can check any historic war casualty figures to confirm this, and shows how extra careful Israel have been, and majority of those are legitimate kills or Hamas statistical wizardry while the rest are majorly due to Hamas using civilian areas for human shield.
There is no part of this that is true. The phrase "inflated figures" are only used by pro-Israeli news outlets, to throw doubt on the actual scale of war crimes being committed.

The figures are issued by the Hamas Ministry of Health, and seen to be reliable by all other renowned international organisations. The only faction that disputes the number of civilians killed is Israel. Meanwhile, in a twisted set of events, they claim to know the exact number of Hamas militants killed. Joke.



You cannot push the narrative of Hamas being the scourge that it is, but then turn a blind eye, when Netanyahu was propping up Hamas, delisting them from terror org designation, facilitating billions of Qatari dollars to them through the Egypt border and encouraging them to form a government, to further Israelis geo-political interests.

One day, they are mindless terrorists, the next day, they are OUR terrorists, depending on the interest.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 5:17pm On Jul 20, 2025
benalvino3:
All the nonsense you wrote, this one is interesting. So prove to us this particular lie you just wrote.
I don't have time for intellectual dishonesty. If you think it's a lie, show me where you can hold an 8yo indefinitely, without charge, under vthe "suspiscion of terrorism" in the UK.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m):
Ibime:
And there we have it, the terrorist sympathiser comes out

What business do festival goers, babies, and peaceniks who chose to live near Gaza have to do with a state detaining your suspected terrorists

Great example of anti-Semite genocidal mindset above

No, history did not start in 2023. It started it 1948 when Palestinians rejected partitioning and decided to test their strength, attempt a genocide back then against a people who just suffered one and lost.
Sympathy for Terrorism had a long standing meaning until lately. Some of us were bold enough to start as soon as Oct of the same year, but the tide is turning. We are seeing now that those standing on the right side of history, are those standing with the Palestinians. Those that promote the oppression of Palestinians are the actual terrorism sympathisers.

What business do the elderly Palestinians in the village who are being ejected from their homes in thousands, in the West Bank, Hebron, Jerusalem have to do with "suspected terrorism"? You have whole families lose their livelihood, homes, belongings, overnight, because a bunch of Israelis and they get on site back up from the IDF showing up in numbers? Who's doing the terrorism? And why do you think people don't have the right to fight back?

Children as young as 8 years old are being held without charge, gun shot wounds to head, legs, stomach. Women being gang-raped by IDF soldiers, who film their shameful acts and put on tik tok..... but it's only one side doing the terrorism when they fight back?

Can an 8-yo be held indefinitely in the UK, with no charge, under the grounds of terrorism, even if the suspicion is true? No! But you justify same for Palestinians, and I am the terrorism sympathiser.

You guys are shameless.

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