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This to me is the worst I have seen ManU season long. . .

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@Ritchboy



Allow me the gracious opportunity to announce to you that you are the most confused Nairalander I have come across. . .
You skew up your arguments, your facts, your replies, everything.
You have not a focused argumentative point of view and you blame a poor Chelsea fan for it. . . I can't teach you to stand on a point.

U said arsenal cant compete for the league, which is a blatant lie.

I mean . . .who writes this? . . . You really believe it is a blatant lie that Arsenal can't compete for the title. "Arsenal can't compete for the title"  is not the sort of statement you call a lie. With a full squad you can't and you and I know it's only a matter before Vermaleen and Gallas get injured. . and you'll be struggling to be 6th.

U make it sound like chelsea have already won the league. . .

I don't make it sound like Chelsea have won the league. Your disdain and hate for Chelsea envelopes a common ability to make constructive reasoning out of simple situations. . . and you are embarrassing yourself.


Your statement. . . . . "just like in your mind, chelsea r odds on faves. everybody has an opinion" -  .

My response . . . . . . "That we are favourites to win the title is not solely my opinion. . .
Fight it as you may. . If you walk into the bookies the odds on Arsenal winning the title is about 5 times slimmer than Chelsea. . . and thank God that's my not my opinion. . ."



So where in the world did you deduce that I make it sound like Chelsea have won the league. . . You start with A and then jump to B back to A and then to C all in the name of shielding your defenceless situation tha tis clear as day for everyone to see. . . It's a big waste of time talking with you.

This myopic train of thought can only be as a result of relative inexperience in judging title races(which is common for a chelsea fan since 97.65% of their title races have been in the second division)

Your ignorance knows no bounds . . .
We were not Chelsea fans when Chelsea was in the second division. For that reason our judgement is not and will never be likely to be influenced by our second division titles. Many of us can't even say how many years we spent there unless we google it.
So aw do you suppose our "myopic train of thought" is because of that?. Just how?

There's a difference between banter and common sense. If you want to write about our exploits in the 2nd division, by all means go for it. . .but to say because of that, we can't judge title races, you must be having a laugh. You should stop typing now as you are making even less sense.

considering the fact that there are teams as good as/better than chelsea, i'm perplexed when someone types such unfiltered fibs. I meam theres nothing wrong in being optimistic but u sound a tad immature(like the bookies have a crystal ball they look into)

Teams as good as Chelsea's - Manchester UTD. . . . Please name one more. . .
Teams better than Chelsea's . . . . . ? Please name one. .  
You are full of bullshi.t. . . don't write if you have nothing to say at all.
You don't have to show us that you hate Chelsea. . . everyone knows that. . . but at least your opinion shouldn't be bereaved of common sense. It will make no sense hating . . . at least hate with sense.

We are being optimistic. . that's as far as we get this season. Many of us haven't even given 100% trust to Carllotti - therefore you will see no one in the Chelsea camp talking about winning the league. We are hoping we stay on top for a long time and hopefully we can. . . Hopefully!
Even Bule Diva was saying the other day that Carllotti has only been lucky until he faces his big test. . . Many of us were even against his appointment. We are treading with caution.

What spurs all these rants is beyond my understanding. . .

The bookies have no crystal ball. .  they make odds based on strength of teams and more importantly the tenacity to stay on till the end . . . and I am very sorry if they don't rate Arsenal. No sensible person will. . . Aw is that my fault?

now let me reiterate, A CLUA WITH A HISTORY AS WRETCHED AS CHELSEAS ARE IN NO POSITION TO TALK ABOUT "trophyless-ness". . . such a remark only makes me feel even more sorry for your shitty club.
3 league titles in over a century of existence? Its a genuinely sad story

3 titles in 100 years is not a sad story. . . . It only highlights how far we have come as a club.
Not every club is successful from the word go and Chelsea happens to be one of those. . .

The documented facts have it that the league started in 1888. Arsenal did not win the league until 1931. That's 43 years later. You wouldn't have had much to say about Arsenal in terms of history if you were alive in 1929. Nothing at all. . . but like everything is, there will be a first time. Your first time came in 1931 and you've won 13 since then. Our real first time as a big club came in 2005. . and we may go on to win 13 by 2050. who knows?

because you live in 2009 doesn't mean you should not understand how to deal with issues. Evolution occurs. Time after time. So all this "no history" slagging off to me is irrelevant. What matters is now. What matters is relevance . . else you'll slowly slip back into oblivion resting on your past honours.

Utd can't say because they've won 17 titles, then let's pack it up and remind every newcomer we've won it 17 times. In 2100, it may have no relevance. Until for the purpose of records. . .


Win a title or at least a trophy. Stay relevant and then you can come here and and say what you like. . until that time you are not fit to talk of people's previous "trophyless-ness" . . when it's not like you are winning trophies yourself.

FBS:
my bad. try the fifa free link.
abeg no vex.


RED card?/ this ref baaaad. wtf?

The FIFA link is blocked. . .
Ok I will settle for the highlights. . .

FBS:
Nateevs, my brother no vex abeg. I didn't even see your message.
You got sopcast right?
http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=50490&part=sports

FBS is the channel 77552?


Cos they are showing Arm-Wrestling.

FBS:
Forget the scoreline. , this is FE's worst performance ever.

FBS you are in the UK how are you watching . . ?
You no even answer me since sef.

dayokanu:
This is my link

http://espn.go.com/broadband/espn360/player?gameId=284227&sportCode=&league=FIFA

Are you paying on demand? because that is what I can see here

morpheus24:
I don give up I go see th highlights later

I am actually suprised you have just given up. If you live in the uk, no links. Simples!

[quote author=T@meD0 link=topic=330832.msg4648114#msg4648114 date=1254417416]where u dey? try espn360.com[/quote]Bros this link is not working. . . .

mike oscar:
I think what they are trying to do is see if they can get an opener and a couple before the break but their approach is too gra-gra.

Bros where are you based?
How are you able to watch the match?

MustardInc:
FIFA.COM is biased to we outsiders o

any real links pls?

I found www.rojadirecta.com BUT NEED SOPCAST or TV ants

still not able to connect to France EuroSport 2 which shows the match

Even the channelon Sopcast is showing Car racing. . .

How come NTA is not showing the match?

FIFA is restricted in the UK this time around I can't believe it. I ahve always watched every FIFA youth championship online . .

@FBS

Where you dey watch the match?

Youth Football:


Sam Hutchinson gets U21 call-up. He joins fellow Chelsea players, Micheal Mancienne, Jack Cork, Ryan Bertrand and Daniel Sturridge in the squad.

I think the only reason you are here is to tell me that Arsenal youths are better than Chelsea. You have not seen me tell anyone that we have the best youth. So if you disagree with our young players being upcoming stars, the only thing I can tell you is to wait and see. I don't have the luxury of time to go into the stats of how good our youth football is.

The topic however is what will happen to Chelsea during the ACN. . . I gave you an answer by telling you how we will cope. Telling you the players that will cover for the top players and that the matches are non as consequential . .  .

You choose however to judge us based on a one-off loss to Wigan. . . and to do this is very naive and it shows how much analysis you cannot make.  

Flashback. . . February 11th 2006. Chelsea lost 3-0 to Middlesborough . . . people like you thought it was the end. Well we went on to beat ManU 3-0 on the final competitive day of the prem and lifted the title.

Mind you there was an ACN in that year too.


Read all you might to the loss against Wigan. . . You are only "hoping" as far as I am concerned. You have no facts to back-up all your "Chelsea is dying" campaign. Just hopes.



For a team that won 6 consecutive games and suddenly loses, you chose to read more into one loss than 6 wins. I can't help you. .

Sturridge-    left Villa cos he was far down the peckin order

Sturridge came in from Man City not Villa. . . You don't know much do you?

Di Santo-    need I say much? in his appearances for you what has he done?

He's on loan at Blackburn . . . I bet you didn't know that as well. . . He's doing well and he'll be back in January.

Borini-      where this one for come? what is his pedigree

He's a youngster . . . bright youngster better than Bendtner

Matic-    another unknown quantity, if above 20 we for don hear of am if good enough and if under 20, our boys are definitely better

I know players have to be a Messi for you to know them. Unproven quantity yes. . . you don't know him yet you know your boyz are better. You are full of emptiness.

What of proven backups for your back 4? apart from Alex and Ivanovic who yu get again? don't even let me start on those subs you've got there,

Proven back-up for our back should something go wrong . . . . Ferreira/Belletti, Alex, Ivanovic, and Zhirkov (From RB to LB in that order). . You still don't know much.

You don't get the point . . . Your reasoning is all clogged with opposition and hate. . . and that prevents straight forward thinking. The team I highlighted is not to win the prem but good enough to win the mediocre matches when the top players are away. And there are only 6 matches.

Mancienne of all people who is a liability for the England Under 21s. Where Bruma and hutchinson dey when we dey do double at Under 18 level?

Mancienne is a young player that will make mistakes now. Just like John Terry once was. . . Chelsea was on the verge on selling him because he won't progress. . Look at him today. Bruma and Hutchinson and upcoming world class players. . .  I have not mentioned 11 players from our youth because not all of them are world class but these few I know.
And it seems this your newly found U-18 win is shacking you. I bet it's the first time you are following youth football. . because Arsenal have been nothing in youth football for a while now.

Besides most of those guys can't even get into our first team yet, our first team can afford to give the likes of Eduardo and Rosicky  the day off while having the likes of Nasri out injured. Do you know how many international captains we have in our squad? 3 if you don't know.

I think you have just started watching football. . .

John Terry,
Didier Drogba
Micheal Ballack are all captains of their respective sides. . . Who are you trying to impress. . ? Who is this guy sef?

That we are favourites to win the title is not solely my opinion. . .
Fight it as you may. . If you walk into the bookies the odds on Arsenal winning the title is about 5 times slimmer than Chelsea. . . and thank God that's my not my opinion. . . 

Oh! Maybe the bookies are Chelsea fans as well. .  . . . All of them.


The only fan base you will never find objectivity is the Arsenal fan base.

And thanks for pointing out that the champions are the only ones that can claim current glory. . . because I almost forgot we are FACup champions. . .
Now what are you . . . . ? Taking into account "The only unbiased way to look at it"


No matter how you twist and turn . . . You can't hide the fact that the only glory you can claim is in the past and the hopes of increasing the tallies gets slimmer everyday. . . as you said, you can't put your money on Arsenal.

It's only on your side of London folks think the only certain thing is ManU winning the title again. . . . On our own end we don't think like that. You know why?. . .  because we can stop it and you can't . . .You can't see beyond "trophy less-ness"(permit me to use that word) We can and do!
Why blame us for being ambitious?


One more thing. Sorry. . .In the past five years, Arsenal won the FA Cup. My bad! . . .
Lest I forget . . . . . . . . .  In the past five years Portsmouth won the FA Cup as well . . .


Buncha sore-ass analysts!

Alright now that you have stated what you mean. I will answer your questions.


Question 1

This is what will happen when Drogba and co leave.

Saturday, 9 January 2010
Hull v Chelsea, 15:00

Saturday, 16 January 2010
Chelsea v Sunderland, 15:00

Wednesday, 27 January 2010
Chelsea v Birmingham, 19:45

Saturday, 30 January 2010
Burnley v Chelsea, 15:00

Saturday, 6 February 2010
Chelsea v Arsenal, 15:00




Now I am going to ask you the same question you asked me. What do you think will happen during the ANC when Drogba and co leave?


Team. .

                               Cech
                Bosingwa Alex Terry Cole
       
                       Ballack/Matic
Zhirkov/Kakuta                 Joe Cole/Malouda
                         Lampard
                             
       Anelka/DiSanto        Sturridge/Borini
     


Hilario, Hutchinson, Mancienne, Bruma.

With only two of those players over 30. How did you come about increasing the overall age of the team. . ?




2. Everything can go wrong . . agreed. . . but everything may not go wrong. . . everything may go right. . . and everything doesn't apply to Chelsea alone. . . Arsenal, ManU, Liverpool are all part of everything.




So you were saying ?

MINT!. . .

But how do you know all these things you are saying?
Are you just hoping for the worst for us. . . . or there's something you see that we all don't?

debosky:
Hardly a relevant analogy - Forest are not in any position to even COMPETE for those trophies, so such a comment would be useless. Again, how can a team with only 3 titles in 50 years accuse another team with over three times that number to go 'win titles'? That is unfortunate, plain and simple.

because right now the team with 3 titles in 50 years are referred to as favourites to win the title NOW! . . That's why.
Forest are not in the position to compete for those titles. . . Agreed!

Tell me that Arsenal are competing for the Title. . . I know your Arsenal mind will deceive you and cause you to post shit contrary to the truth but a simple way to answer this question is can you stake your money on Arsenal to win the title this season ? The answer is no! . . . And that makes you just like Forest. . . even though you are in the premiership, you can't win the title this season. . . Not different from Bolton.

What is past glory in this instance? What has Chelski won in their existence that Arsenal have not won much more? That is the simple question y'all cannot answer.I was referring to our loss to Utd in LAST SEASON'S CL while they were defending champions. Mumu  

You can't just keep coming here to tell us that you've won more than us . . OK let's set this straight. There's nothing Chelsea has won that you have not won much much more. Happy?

Now back to the present. . This is absolutely irrelevant in footballing terms today. In the last 5 years Chelsea have won 6 trophies. Arsenal have won nothing . . . What has the bearing of the past got to do with that. ? Even when Chelsea win the league in the summer you will still come back here saying you've won much more. . . Is that your defence for horrible performances year in year out?

With your ranting, in 10 years we will still be on the same argument, Arsenal has won much more . . . .

A typical example is Liverpool saying they have won more titles than Utd. . . . agreed! . . but what has that got to do with today? Today, Utd are favourites to win the title. . that matters more.



Now what is past glory. . . ?

Past glory I believe will differ in interpretation according to our sentiments. While I may define past glory as "Non Recent glory" (recent being last 5 years) . . . others like yourself and Ritchboy may choose to extend even further - say ten years.

It has to be within reason however. If we are to believe Ritchboy . . past glory is past as soon you drop the trophy in your cabinet. . . which makes all of us the same. . including Utd that won the league last season and Barca that won the CL last season.

If we go with the Arsenal fans, there will no reason for football. . .As long as you have won a trophy before, that's all that matters. Even if you don't win it again in five years, it still doesn't matter. In fact winning it multiple times makes your even have more to say. We've won it more than you!

And the essence of competition refutes that belief. . . The essence of competition is staying relevant. Being Favourites. . always! It's not enough to have won the title 5 times more than Chelsea, it's if you can ever win it again that matters. Just like you said, Forest are not in the capacity to compete again!

@Funky


We definitely know Drogba and Bosingwa are back on the weekend. I have a feeling Carllotti may play Joe Cole, alongside Essien and one of Malouda nad Zhirkov in the diamond.

We will be a stronger team on Sunday. I always fear Liverpool but I have this slight feeling we will just about get that win.

3pts. . .
One can argue we were playing away. . we could have done much much better. . .

We have to be really on top of our game on Sunday.

Na MTN dey this people shirt . .

I am not impressed. . .

Anelka too many touches. . .

Kalou off. . Oh Thank God!

how did Lamps miss that?

Kalou is a very poor player. . .

Joe Cole coming on. . .

We are not playing well. . .
Belletti off. .