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They don't need trinity that will confuse them

All they need is oneness of God

jegz25:
the only hypocrites here is you Christian folks. You always talk about tolerance, but you insult Islam. Note I said hardly you see a Muslim insulting Christans but you people do it all the time. So who are the hypocrites and intolerant people here?

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Godisperfect77:
5. The death of Jesus on the cross is NOT neccessary:

God can decide to forgive our sins and earn our salvation through SINCERE REPENTANCE (see Ezekiel 33:10-16 quoted above) coupled with ANNUAL ANIMAL SACRIFICE ;

"He is to lay both hands on the head of the live GOAT and confess over it all the wickedness and rebellion of the Israelites—ALL THEIR SINS—and put them on the goat’s head. He shall send the GOAT away into the wilderness in the care of someone appointed for the task. The GOAT will carry on itself ALL THEIR SINS to a remote place; and the man shall release it in the wilderness....... .. Then, before the Lord, you will be CLEAN FROM ALL YOUR SINS (Leviticus 16:21-30)"


Here we read in the last verse ; “Then before the LORD, you will be CLEAN FROM ALL YOUR SINS” (Leviticus 16:30).

Yet the new Testament proclaimed that; " It is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to TAKE AWAY SINS (Hebrew 10:4)".

This is a flat contradiction. Is there any difference between "CLEAN FROM ALL SINS" and "TAKE AWAY SINS" ?


The only way to resolve this contradiction is when we assume that the phrase "TAKE AWAY SINS" in Hebrews 10:4 implies "complete removal of humanity sinful nature" and NOT referring to "cleanliness from already committed sins".
However, complete removal of humanity sinful nature is impossible as NOBODY can be completely FREE from committing sins (see 1 John1:8-10).

Therefore, Hebrew 10:4 is a great lie deliberately fabricated by Paul to weaken the atonement of sins through animal sacrifice and then justify atonement of sins through Jesus crucifixion.


Therefore, if the main purpose of Jesus crucifixion is to achieve forgiveness and cleanliness from our sins, then the death of Jesus on the cross IS NOT NECCESSARY; IT IS NOT THE ONLY WAY as claimed by the Christian scholars. God can decide to forgive our sins through sincere repentance or through animal sacrifice as He has done with the Old testament believers that lived and died before Jesus arrival.


Some Christians might want to argue that Jesus crucifixion make us entitle to many spiritual benefits that GO BEYOND forgiveness and cleanliness from our sins. But no matter how numerous the spiritual benefits that can be derived from Jesus crucifixion, there is no way for such benefits to be ACTUALIZED in the life of the Old Testament believers (like Abraham, Isaac, Jacob,Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah etc) because they have lived and died before Jesus arrival talkless of his supposed crucifixion.
Yet these people manage to earn their salvation and reconciliation back to God (because there is no any biblical verse that says these Old Testament believers were in a certain state of condemnation after their death until the time of Jesus crucifixion).

So if these old testament believers, who happened to be among the children of Adam, were able to gain their salvation without Jesus crucifixion, then there is alternative way also for the other children of Adam to gain their salvation WITHOUT Jesus crucifixion.

6. The act of crucifying one human being (Jesus ) to save the humanity from one problem or the other is nothing but human sacrifice. Yet God Almighty hates human sacrifice (see Deuteronomy 12:31 and Leviticus 18:21 ).

If, according to the Christians, God Almighty can carry out human sacrifice, then what is the difference between Christianity and traditional African religions which also support human sacrifice?
Is there any difference between the two ? As Jesus was not willing to die (see the first reason above) so also the victims of the traditional African religions are not willing to die.

Paul declare as follows;
"I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain (Galatians 2:21)".

So according to Paul “human sacrifice” is the grace of God. Yet the same Christians, who agree that Paul is right in his claim, would continue to condemn traditional Africa religions for engaging in human sacrifice. Why the double standard since “human sacrifice” is “human sacrifice” ?


WAS JESUS REALLY CRUCIFIED ?

The Holy Quran replies and the choice is yours: “He (Jesus) was neither killed nor crucified” (Holy Quran 4:157).

1. Muslims believe in Jesus as a mighty prophet of God (Qur'an 19:30).

2. Muslims believe in Jesus miraculous birth(Qur'an 21:91)

3. Muslims believe in all the miracles Jesus performed during his earthly ministry (Qur'an 5:110)

4. Muslims believe in Jesus ascension to heaven (Qur'an 4:158)

5. Muslims believe in Jesus 2nd coming toward the end of the world.(Qur'an 43:57-61)

Now let us assume that Jesus crucifixion is true.
Do you think Muslims are deserve to be condemned by God on the last day simply because they fail to believe in Jesus crucifixion despite all those five beliefs they have concerning Jesus Christ ?

To answer this question, let suppose the following conversation take place between God Almighty and the Muslims on the day of Judgement on the assumption that Jesus crucifixion is true


God: O you Muslims why did you refuse to believe in Jesus crucifixion ?


Muslims : O Lord our God and creator, Qur'an make us to believe in Jesus as Your mighty prophet who was born miraculously by virgin Mary. Qur'an also make us to believe in all the miracles that Jesus performed during his earthly ministry. Furthermore, Qur'an make us to believe in Jesus'ascension to heaven and that he is coming back toward the end of the world. So it is also written in the same Qur'an that Jesus was not crucified.

God; Yes, your Qur'an is true regarding all those things it mentioned concerning Jesus. But why are you so sure that your Qur'an did not get it wrong on the issue of Jesus crucifixion ?


Muslims: O Lord our God and Creator, the reason why we believe that Qur'an is also true on the issue of Jesus crucifixion is because Bible also declare that anyone that is crucified is accursed by God (Deuteronomy 21:23, Galatians 3:13) and it is is not possible for You as a God of love, mercy and justice to put your innocent and beloved prophet under Your curse. From the logical reasoning you gave to us as human being, we realized that only the devils and his followers are deserved to be under your curse: NOT your innocent, righteous and beloved prophet like Jesus Christ, who never did anything against Your Will. You are naturally known to always BLESS Your innocent, righteous and beloved prophets and never to CURSE any one of them.


Please do you think God Almighty can still have an evidence against the Muslims concerning the issue of Jesus crucifixion base on this reasonable reply ?


Consequently, even if Jesus crucifixion is true, Muslims CANNOT BE CONDEMNED by God for not believing in it. Yet Paul wrote in his epistle: the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are PERISHING (1st Corinthians 1:18). See how Paul got it wrong!


Jesus crucifixion is one of the FOUNDATIONAL PILLARS of the present day Christianity . You will notice that the symbol of "CROSS" used to represent Christianity stands for Jesus crucifixion. In other words, if there is no Jesus crucifixion, then there is no Christianity.

Hence, if the ONLY true faith from God is Christianity, then NOBODY MUST HAVE A STRONG AND REASONABLE EXCUSE for not believing in Jesus crucifixion . However, as we have shown above, Muslims have a strong and reasonable excuse for not believing in Jesus crucifixion. Therefore, the ONLY true faith from God is NOT Christianity. Hence, Christianity must be a FALSE faith because Muslims have a strong and reasonable excuse to tender before God for not believing in Jesus crucifixion. Yet crucifixion of Jesus is one of the most important PILLARS of Christianity; Without it there is no Christianity.

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*Dome finally sits atop structure without props.
*Dr Enenche says Next "Worship and Wonders Night" scheduled for 31 August to hold in New facility.


The magnificent dome roof which sits atop the awe-inspiring Glory Dome has finally been placed. This is an intricate engineering structure which was put together by coupling 21,800 pieces of metal fabrications together. Its parts were built by Geometrica in USA but assembled on site by Nigerians. The length of the building is about 300m. Any delay in the completion of the structure is due to the process and never funding as some would like to believe. The workers on site testify that they can’t explain themselves what’s going on as this could only be God at work. The structure was initially billed to take 75,000 and as construction went on, it was realized that it could hold up to 85,000 but with some adjustments factored in a few places, its capacity will be 100,000 on completion.
The auditorium has no single visible pillar supporting it as the pillars are embedded in the walls while the beauty of the suspended doom roof is more obvious. At the time of the visit, pictures of the inside were not allowed to be taken but it is a view better beheld than explained.
Other facilities already on ground are the secondary school, event center, the Garden, Housing Estate building prototype, streetlights and ringroad to complement the tarred road.
Inspite of the level of work ongoing at the site, no single mention of ‘building offering’ was made in any of the 6 overflooded services on Sunday and on further inquiries from a worshipper at the Church, it was gathered that building offerings are never collected or requested during services.
It will be recalled that on 14th September 2014, Bishop Oyedepo was invited for the groundbreaking ceremony of The The Lord’s Garden at Airport Road, Abuja.
Since the start of this project in 2014, Work has not been halted for a day for ANY reason whatsoever and work goes on day and night as was witnessed during visit to the site.
Also gathered was that workers are paid as at when due. There are no ‘sorry, please come back tomorrow' to the workers. Engineers, technicians, horticulturists, gardeners, welders, carpenters and infact everybody who are working at the same time are paid as at when due.
In a short while from now, Christendom will gather to celebrate the Glory of God at the Glory Dome.
“...I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it”.
Matthew 16:18
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wallex1983:
He will say his own. Listening to him and taking to his counsel is their own decision. Not with force.

Even Jesus mingled with sinners, but not all accepted him. Yet, among the 12 who slept, woke and dined with him, one still did not heed his teaching despite being close.

Watch!

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olajide21:
Islamophobe detected!.... There are 1000s of churches in the North why won't you allow mosque and Muslims in the south.? You are so not accommodating!

9jvirgin:
Na wao.

Meanwhile....

My experience in a country : Wake up in the morning, Pray, Shower, Dress-up, Get in the car, Drive to work.

My experience in another country : Wake up in the morning, Pray, Put fuel inside the Generator, Put on the Generator, Pump Water, Shower, Put off the Pumping machine, Put off the Generator, Switch source to "NEPA", Check the car for water and engine oil level, Notify your neighbor to move his car, Open the gate, Drive out and park outside the gate, Wait for your neighbor to repark his car, Close the gate, Enter your car, Drive to work.

Moral of the Story : It is too late for Nigeria to be good.

anataala:
Islam is not enemy to chiristianity Jesus is loved and cherished in Islam as well a complete chapter named suratul Maryam was in the Qur'an in fact if you want to know the first miracle of Jesus please read it. The first miracle of Jesus peace be unto him
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You pray for them to be saved. When they are saved, you will see the best in them.

Diickrider:
How many Christians can save such child in that situation? Islam remains the true religion that cares for humanity. Gassama is a proud Muslim, not a terrorist

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THAT'S THE MIRACLE IN ISLAM... ALLAHU AKBAR

Rashduct4luv:
Even if i give u all the proofs you will reject. I have explained Islam and meaning of a Muslim to you before! Which proof do you want? From the Qur'an, New testament or Old?

Rashduct4luv:
The Christians and Jews claimed that Abraham belonged to them, so Allah, The Exalted, refuted their claim and declared it false in the Quran; He says (what means):

{O People of the Scripture, why do you argue about Ibraaheem while the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed until after him? Then will you not reason? Here you are - those who have argued about that of which you have (some) knowledge, but why do you argue about that of which you have no knowledge? And Allah knows while you know not. Ibraaheem was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim (submitting to Allah). And he was not of the polytheists. Indeed, the most worthy of Ibraaheem among the people are those who followed him (in submission to Allah) and this Prophet, and those who believe (in his message). And Allah is the ally of the believers.} [Quran 3:65-68]

And Ibrahim(Abraham) was qualified in the Qur'an many times as ''Haneef"(i.e. someone inclining towards truth of Islamic monotheism) and a Muslim and was not a polytheist.

The onus is on you to prove that Abraham practiced Judaism or Christianity! And do not divert these question without answering it.

Rashduct4luv:
I don't know if it is hatred that blinds you to this extent.

More Questions!

1. Just give me evidence that Judaism was a religion!

2. And also give me evidence that Christianity was brought by Jesus Christ.

3. is there a difference btw being jewish and being in Judaism?

4. Abraham had two sons Ishmael and Isaac. Isaac can be traced to Jesus while Ishmael can be traced to Muhammad!

Research Key Points: What is Judaism and can it be found in the Scriptures as a religion?
What is christianity and can it be found in any scripture as a religion?
And we can subject Islam to the same test!

Rashduct4luv:
Jesus' followers called themselves Muslims in the Qur'an. A Muslim is one who submits totally to the will of the one God and obeys His messenger!
Jesus was the messenger sent to them then!
Abraham was also the messenger during his time.
likewise Moses, Noah,etc.

Rashduct4luv:
Jesus' followers called themselves Muslims in the Qur'an. A Muslim is one who submits totally to the will of the one God and obeys His messenger!
Jesus was the messenger sent to them then!
Abraham was also the messenger during his time.
likewise Moses, Noah,etc.

Rashduct4luv:
Bring out a verse that says Judaism is the religion of the Jews?

There are Jewish Muslims nowadays so...why can't Abraham or Jesus too be Muslims? Be logical.

nathdim:
and the last time i heard Judaism is the religion of the Jewish people and they are only religion with accurate historical background Christianity Islam are copying them no fool would come and tell me that Abraham is a Muslim the history speaks for itself Judaism has been in existence b4 Christianity then followed by Islam and in the Jewish book the torah there is nothing like Allah and that his name is in quran is no big deal his name is also in the bible

Rashduct4luv:
What do you call a Jew that practices Islam?

a. Jew

b. Muslim

c. a or b.

d. Don't know

The point you don't get is that being Jewish is a race! Not all Jews are into Judaism.

Abraham can be Jewish and be a Muslim. Jesus can be a Jew and a Muslim.

Rashduct4luv:
What do you call a Jew that practices Islam?

a. Jew

b. Muslim

c. a or b.

d. Don't know

The point you don't get is that being Jewish is a race! Not all Jews are into Judaism.

Abraham can be Jewish and be a Muslim. Jesus can be a Jew and a Muslim.

Rashduct4luv:
I don't know if it is hatred that blinds you to this extent.

More Questions!

1. Just give me evidence that Judaism was a religion!

2. And also give me evidence that Christianity was brought by Jesus Christ.

3. is there a difference btw being jewish and being in Judaism?

4. Abraham had two sons Ishmael and Isaac. Isaac can be traced to Jesus while Ishmael can be traced to Muhammad!

Research Key Points: What is Judaism and can it be found in the Scriptures as a religion?
What is christianity and can it be found in any scripture as a religion?
And we can subject Islam to the same test!

Rashduct4luv:
I am not arguing with you on languages. Jesus and John the Baptist never spoke Hebrew and we believe they were Prophets!

Make a research on Semitic languages!

Hebrew and Arabic are two of the major remaining Semitic languages and they can be traced to a similar root!

Make research!

Allah knows best.

Rashduct4luv:
I already knew you won't be able to answer! We need not argue further without knowledge.
You accuse someone of forgery so you are to produce the manuscript he forged his story from. Muhammad is an unlettered person ( i.e. can't read nor write!) He never had any formal education and this is one of the reasons why the Qur'an is a miracle.
We believe it was revealed to him through the angel Gabriel! The Torah was revealed to Moses for his people, Jesus got the Injeel for the lost sheep of Israel and Muhammad got the Qur'an for the whole mankind till judgement day!

And mind you, Moses never knew a religion called Judaism! He worshipped one God with no partners. He spoke to Allah! You can never find Judaism in the Torah!
Christianity was also unknown to Jesus when he was alive. The word was formed after he left the earth!
Islam was the religion of Adam and all other Prophets. Islam is worshipping Allah alone without partners! Islam exists in the Qur'an as our religion and the religion of Jesus, Abraham, Joseph, Zachariah, John the Baptist, Isaac, Ishmael, Jacob, Solomon, David, Moses, Noah, Isaiah, Elias, Elijah, Aaron,.... Muhammad. May the peace and blessings of Allah be upon them all.

Rashduct4luv:
So how did Muhammad lie? Was he requesting money for salvation? And did he antagonize Jesus, Moses or any other Prophet?

What does the Jew call their God? What's the equivalent of the Jew's God in English? In Arabic?


What was Jesus's Language? What was his name in his language?

Let's see if you can pass this simple knowledge test!