Politics › Re: Nigeria Requests $3.5Billion Loan From World Bank- Financial Times by NavierStokes(m): 7:03am On Feb 01, 2016 |
Ibime: You said it all.
Many Nigerians are fools and just like to rant upandan. Instead of going to hold Fortunato and his colleagues who stole all the reserves when the going was good and left nothing for the rainy day, they will be ranting like uneducated baboons. I am tired of hearing all these shallow accusations, what do you understand by reserves, how do you think reserves are generated considering that in our economy virtually all the projected income is supposed to go into sharing between the tiers of govt, excess crude acct and sovereign wealth fund. And our constitution is against saving? Anyways here is an article for you, hope you find the time to read and have a better understanding of our aggressive stance of defending the naira one certain time. http://emerge-ng.com/newsletter-editr/how-sanusi-put-the-naira-in-trouble/ |
Politics › Re: Oke Umurhohwo :-the Biggest Case Of Fraud Today Is Not $2.1b, Its $30b… by NavierStokes(m): 9:08pm On Jan 30, 2016 |
"Four legs good, Two Legs better" |
Politics › Re: Suicide Bombers Now Disguising As Madmen – DHQ by NavierStokes(m): 11:52am On Jan 30, 2016 |
To us they are madmen already so we appeal to them, no need for disguise |
Politics › Re: Buhari Takes Over Central Bank Naira Management - Bloomberg. by NavierStokes(m): 6:50pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
MagicBishop: The man is a stubborn goat.
I never knew one man's foolishness can be so dangerous that it will affect the well being of over 170 million people. Its a pity that a "poorly enlightened" majority will collectively drag intelligent people into a disaster such as this with their choice of a President who couldn't provide a simple certificate for us all to see. All good jobs requests for excellent certificates here in Nigeria, but for the highest office in the land, we decide to make waivers for even a NEPA certificate holder. |
Politics › Re: Buhari Takes Over Central Bank Naira Management - Bloomberg. by NavierStokes(m): 6:41pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
drss: devaluation is d only solution to free up pressure on d naira, but because buari dullard promised to make N1 = $1, he wont do it. Buari has boxed himself into a corner. dis man no know economics at all.  WE DEY WATCH AM: Meanwhile Paraphrased below are the following Buhari's economic policy, the height of financial foolishness -- Financial Times Buhari has made it clear, who is in charge of Nigeria's Monetary Policies -- Bloomberg Buhari's crude economic tactics worsening Nigeria's economy -- Economist Meanwhile on the much touted corruption frontier: Transparency ranks us 136 out of 168 countries against 136/176 (2015 against 2014), a drop from 27% to 26% y on y(both years) --transparency Intl Ghana and Senegal, examples of countries making progress with their anti-corruption drives --BBC Where we come dey sef  |
Politics › Re: "The Economist" Accuses Buhari Of Worsening Nigeria's Economy by NavierStokes(op): 6:26pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
Hengineer: oh.. now we are shifting grounds?? It's no longer a matter of the statement being silly, clueless and impossible?? its now a matter of it being too difficult for a country like Nigeria to achieve. I thank God we are now understanding ourselves and defining the issue properly. But you would agree with me that over 95% of the people who laugh at that statement do not even have the slightest idea that it is possible for anyone to stabilize oil prices; most people still assume it was a gaffe by Buhari.
Now if I may ask, since you think it is an impossibility for Buhari to achieve and you think Buhari was just being clueless when he made the 'wild' promise, did you also think it was a clueless statement when Diezani made the EXACT statement roughly within the same period?? I'm sure you didnt think Diezani was clueless but when Buhari made the EXACT same statement, you jumped on the bandwagon and labelled it a clueless statement. No one is shifting grounds here, from my first response to you, i asserted that the OPEC president could "diplomatically" steer OPEC in that direction, but then its a function of your position in the pyramid, we do not have that clout, to unilaterally make the push for a stabilization in the price, considering that even a total shut down of all our production is not enough to clear the glut. Talk of a drop in a barrel, that's where we are and it was outright silly to have made that statement. I will put a link to an article published today on the wall street journal, read down (Paragraph 9, excerpts given here as well) and confirm where it is clearly stated: http://www.wsj.com/articles/crude-oil-prices-up-but-downside-risks-loom-1454049620Saudi Arabia hasn't wavered from leading a group of OPEC’s most powerful members to keep producing at full tilt to defend its market share amid competition from Russia, the U.S. and other non-OPEC producers. Before this recent trend, OPEC has traditionally cut output to support prices. Most of the recent comments from within OPEC about an emergency meeting to revive that role have come from members without the power to do it. Everyone but Buhari and of course You, knows he can not unilaterally stabilize the oil price. |
Politics › Re: Buhari Takes Over Central Bank Naira Management - Bloomberg. by NavierStokes(m): 5:50pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
grandstar: Buhari has been in charge ever since he assumed power. The ban of 41products from accessing the CBN was his idea.
The refusal to devalue was also his idea. Before he assumed power, Emefiele had allowed the naira to depreciate.
The CBN is no longer independent and Emefiele is simply s selfish careerist whose career is more important than the economy.
Emefiele was okay until Buhari got there
Buhari won't devalue the currency. He sees those who patronise the black market as unpatriotoc or using his precious forex to buy luxuries. They can buy fx at 600 for all he cares Plus you forgot to add "they can go and source dollars from wherever they want" |
Politics › Re: Oil rises, Russia Says Saudi Has Proposed Output Cuts, Saudi Denies by NavierStokes(op): 5:42pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
lionness: This is a power game between the Oil-Power Players. Saudi is one of the richest nations on earth, and with its staunch American ally, I dont think it will dance to Russia's tune. I think OPEC is just another rubbish controlled by America through their Saudi Puppets. Those royal $hit-heads wont stop twerking to American crap! Well at the moment every one is taking a beating, and its in everyone's best interest to diplomatically work out a solution. The three swing producers at the moment should heed the plea of their poorer allies to end this disaster. |
Politics › Re: Oil rises, Russia Says Saudi Has Proposed Output Cuts, Saudi Denies by NavierStokes(op): 5:31pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
vedaxcool: Anyone who cannot live within his means is heading for disaster whether those who cannot live within our current reality like it or not govt would not pander to their longer throat. Chinese are rich we are not. Time brings the answers to all our questions, and proves or disproves our assertions. |
Politics › Re: Oil rises, Russia Says Saudi Has Proposed Output Cuts, Saudi Denies by NavierStokes(op): 4:45pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
vedaxcool: Unless our foreign appetite is curbed, expecting oil price to rebound soon might be banking on a non existent life line. but then its only a "may" because it "may" also become a reality soonest  . As for curbing our appetite for foreign goods, I am of the opinion that its another issue on its own, even the much touted chinese, with all their internal production, still have an extremely large appetite for foreign goods, as evidenced in the numbers of chinese you find in almost every designer shop, from London to Milan to Zurich etc. |
Politics › Re: Oil rises, Russia Says Saudi Has Proposed Output Cuts, Saudi Denies by NavierStokes(op): 3:35pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
Could a bottom be around the corner, we can only hope.  |
Politics › Re: Nigerian Govt. Orders Forensic Audit Of NNPC, 80 Other Agencies by NavierStokes(m): 1:25pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
If the administration can do this without shielding sacred cows then it is a step in the right direction and highly welcome. |
Politics › Re: "The Economist" Accuses Buhari Of Worsening Nigeria's Economy by NavierStokes(op): 12:51pm On Jan 29, 2016*. Modified: 4:24pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
oladre: My sincere apologies, I forgot to delete the offending word.
I still think u were partial sha. Okay bro we are all one, on the frontpage are the different accounts. One from another OP laying emphasis on the "buffoonery" and also this account laying emphasis on the present administration's economic tactics. So i will reiterate that the aim is mainly to show how within one article, readers can have different perceptions. One love dear friend. |
Politics › Re: "The Economist" Accuses Buhari Of Worsening Nigeria's Economy by NavierStokes(op): 12:15pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
oladre: The idiot op that pasted this just give Nairalanders just what he wanted, a one side to the gist. How can u b so partial?
Anyone that is educated and can use what is between his ears to really analyse will read the whole talk on http://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21689584-cheap-oil-causing-currency-crisis-nigeria-banning-imports-no
The fact is that Buhari inherited a comatose economy.
Cheers Mr don't go about throwing insults, did you read properly to understand how the thread came about, an initial thread was opened by someone else giving a biased report to how the broadsheet, referred to Ex president Jonathan as a buffoon, and so I decided to come up with the other half of the article, requesting the Mod to put both threads side by side to enable readers see how within one article people can perceive information differently, moreover the link to the whole article was also pasted. Please I beg you don't go about throwing insults at people, you may never be able to do so, to the same person in real life. I do hope you are having a great day sir. |
Politics › Re: "The Economist" Accuses Buhari Of Worsening Nigeria's Economy by NavierStokes(op): 11:41am On Jan 29, 2016 |
Hengineer: You agree that the OPEC president is typically the petroleum minister of a country.
You agree that the petroleum minister is an employee of the president of a country who will typically take orders from his boss.
You agree that an OPEC president (an employee of a country's president) can push to stabilize global oil prices.
But in your wisdom, you think it is a silly idea for the president of a country to say he will push for a stabilization of global oil prices (obviously through his petroleum minister who is an OPEC president).
Don't you think there is something absolutely wrong with your logic? Mr, the assertion was never a push for oil price stabilization, rather it was a declaration, like the countless others he has made on other issues, to unilaterally stabilize the crude price. Nigeria is not in a position to do that Mr man, not when we have a defacto leader called Saudi Arabia. you think if it was that easy we or venezuela couldn't have done that a long time ago. |
Politics › Re: ''Tolu Ogunlesi Wrote "The Economist" Article Calling GEJ ineffectual Buffoon'' by NavierStokes(m): 11:28am On Jan 29, 2016*. Modified: 12:29pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
Aisha's Rice plus Lai's 39 billion at work.
So even Tolu is affected by the crude economics tactics, while praising Buhari's policies, he writes articles under "anonymous" and refers to his principal as an "idio.t" who has learnt nothing in 30+ years.
Little wonder for the many years of president Buhari rearing cattle he can only boast of 150 cattles. |
Politics › Re: "The Economist" Accuses Buhari Of Worsening Nigeria's Economy by NavierStokes(op): 11:22am On Jan 29, 2016 |
tsdarkside: then we shouldnt do it by force.....
let it devalue naturaly...
fact is: we dont have dollars!!...
the naira will devalue anyway....but we must not force it to devalue....
buhari is doing the right thing...let the market will regulate its self.... At the momenrt it doesn't seem like Laissez Faire, because as has been pointed out the true value is on the parallel market. if I should add, a lot of people were busy complaining about declining reserves, not knowing that a sizeable chunk of our reserves were actually held by foreign investors who pulled out when things started heading south. I will post a link to an article below, from Sanusi's tenure, please take time to read and I do hope people will stop the hullabaloo of accusing NOI and Jonathan of frittering our reserves. http://emerge-ng.com/newsletter-editr/how-sanusi-put-the-naira-in-trouble/ |
Politics › Re: "The Economist" Accuses Buhari Of Worsening Nigeria's Economy by NavierStokes(op): 11:06am On Jan 29, 2016 |
orisa37: The topic does not relate to the message. And the message is selfish and a fabrication . Brother read again and this time go slowly please. |
Politics › Re: Oil rises, Russia Says Saudi Has Proposed Output Cuts, Saudi Denies by NavierStokes(op): 10:28am On Jan 29, 2016*. Modified: 10:57am On Jan 29, 2016 |
demarc001: Hope for Buhari And hope for us all, because a rise in Oil prices is actually the only condition that can do the magic at the moment. No talks of diversification or anything else can bail us out of the current malaise. Although at the moment Iran will be seen as a stumbling block to such an agreement, but then we can only hope for reason to prevail, because it is in no one's best interest to have low oil prices. |
Politics › Re: "The Economist" Accuses Buhari Of Worsening Nigeria's Economy by NavierStokes(op): 10:25am On Jan 29, 2016 |
jaybee: But i thought you wailers said Lai Mohammed wrote the lies and paid the economist to publish it? That's fallacious, you are making a hasty generalization. |
Politics › Re: Oil rises, Russia Says Saudi Has Proposed Output Cuts, Saudi Denies by NavierStokes(op): 10:20am On Jan 29, 2016 |
Good to have this topic unbanned, thanks Mods |
Politics › Re: "The Economist" Accuses Buhari Of Worsening Nigeria's Economy by NavierStokes(op): 10:14am On Jan 29, 2016 |
babafirst: SAME ARTICLE BUT DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES but why you no reframe or remix the place where dem call GEJ INEFFECTUAL BABOON,sorry BUFFOON nau?Na dat one be the koko of the mata ,the knockout punch.If you remix ASHEWO by Flavour and you no change the catchword ASHEWO to OLOSHO or something else you never change any perspective......the ex presido is/was an ineffectual buffoon......PERIOD!!!Thanks for 'merixing/remixing' the article but you have only succeeded in spreading the word BUFFOON, ineffectual one for that matter!!And I was almost forgetting the words before this reminder ohhhhh. Prima Facie, thats how it appears but upon close scrutiny you should realize that the article is primarily against the crude tactics being applied by this administration. |
Politics › Re: "The Economist" Accuses Buhari Of Worsening Nigeria's Economy by NavierStokes(op): 10:11am On Jan 29, 2016 |
Chitumu: u copied and pasted the last paragraph from a random comment from the original NL topic. Ineffectual buffon defender u no try all cuz i got you busted What is this one talking about  |
Politics › Re: "The Economist" Accuses Buhari Of Worsening Nigeria's Economy by NavierStokes(op): 1:06am On Jan 29, 2016 |
airsaylongcon: What do you mean they had less than two months to prepare it? They resumed office in May 2015. Did they present the budget I'm August? or didn't they know that a budget was due in December when they were sworn in May? Wasn't it this same government that said as early as September that they will not pay is #our5k because they didn't write the then existing budget and #our5k wasn't part of that budget? So what do you mean they had two months? Oh so because the cow charmer spent his time looking for so-called angels to become noise makers (ministers) we should excuse his delay? Abeg e Lol the man was feeling like a big boy, when all the permanent secs were lining up one after the other to seek his audience, he so loved this feeling of self importance that he thought time was standing still. The man chose to rule our country with one photographer (bayo omoboriowo) and two media assistants (Garba and Femi) for a period of almost 1/8 of his tenure. |
Politics › Re: Oil rises, Russia Says Saudi Has Proposed Output Cuts, Saudi Denies by NavierStokes(op): 1:02am On Jan 29, 2016 |
MagicBishop: Saudi Arabia will never cut output now that Iran is back in the game.
Prior to lifting of sanctions on Iran, the Saudis were pumping out more oil that is required in order to compete against US Shale oil. For Shale Oil to be profitable at the current technology being utilised to harness it, conventional crude must be expensive for it to compete.
Now that Iran is back in the game, the Saudis will pump more into the market to stall or slow Iranian economic development.
The Saudis are committing economic suicide to hurt Iran.
At first they pumped more into the market on the behest of the US to hurt Russian mono economy which is by and large dependent on crude exports to Europe.
I don't see the Saudis cutting now given the tensions with Tehran.
The only advantage the Saudis have is their huge external reserves which they are drawing from to offset lower earnings from oil sales.
In 3mths time I expect crude prices to fall well below the $20 mark. But then Iran isnt expected in the game until sometime around september (from an article i read earlier this week). All the same the coming days may see all the players of this "prisoners dilemma" game make an irrationally rational move that would prove beneficial to every player-member of the game. |
Politics › Re: Oil rises, Russia Says Saudi Has Proposed Output Cuts, Saudi Denies by NavierStokes(op): 12:48am On Jan 29, 2016 |
Saudi better concur with this article.  "Boys" are not smiling. |
Politics › Re: "The Economist" Accuses Buhari Of Worsening Nigeria's Economy by NavierStokes(op): 12:46am On Jan 29, 2016 |
Hengineer: ...And who told you it is not possible to stabilise oil prices?? What do you think is the essence of OPEC??
Below is a link to a highly educated, qualified and experienced Diezani making EXACTLY the same statement in 2014 http://www.frontiersnews.com/opec-presidency-ill-push-to-stabilise-oil-price-%E2%80%8E-diezani-alison-madueke/ Man the context are different. OPEC can stabilize oil price, the president of OPEC can "diplomatically steer" OPEC to stabilize oil price. NIGERIA cannot stablize oil price and least of all president Buhari can not "fit it". That was a very silly thing to say my friend. |
Politics › Re: "The Economist" Accuses Buhari Of Worsening Nigeria's Economy by NavierStokes(op): 12:42am On Jan 29, 2016 |
benpedro: bro relax,what Buhari and his economic team are doing is initial gra gra anf the smart investors knows what is the reality in cases like this.Nigeria is BROKE!no dollars,oil is now almost useless.They export crude oil yes but at lost,they get the dollars yes but they spend almost all the dollars refining it outside the country.You get it?.....It's just a matter of time,the dollars in the foreign reserves will exhaust and et voila reality will set in.My advice to anybody in Nigeria is to invest in landed properties and those in diaspora to jejely keep their money in the bank of whatever country they resides or even invest it their until the inevitable happens  Hehehe hopefully the Nigerdelta oil will come to the rescue before things get that bad. |
Politics › Oil rises, Russia Says Saudi Has Proposed Output Cuts, Saudi Denies by NavierStokes(op): 12:24am On Jan 29, 2016*. Modified: 1:07am On Jan 29, 2016 |
Russia Says Saudi Has Proposed Output Cuts, Saudi Denies
Oil prices spiked 5% to near $35/bbl in intraday trading Thursday following reports that Russia’s energy minister was prepared to convene with Saudi-led OPEC to discuss the possibility of an oil output cut. OPEC delegates have reportedly denied that there's a planned meeting. As we explore below, there are very significant obstacles to coordinated action. So far, this is just talk. But because this "talk" involves the world's top 2 oil exporters, the market is responding, and oil prices are rising.
Russia Says There's A Saudi Proposal On Thursday, Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak said that Saudi Arabia has proposed to cut oil output by up to 5% per country in order to bolster oil prices which have fallen ~70% since the summer of 2014. This translates to an output cut for Russia of around 500,000 bpd. The Financial Times reports that the two countries have been in discussions for nearly 18 months about the price collapse, but haven't come anywhere near making an agreement.
Saudi Denies According to a Bloomberg report later Thursday, four OPEC delegates who spoke to the news agency said they had not heard of any planned talks. One Gulf delegate told Bloomberg that Saudi did not propose the 5% output cut. One Gulf delegate told The Wall Street Journal that the production cut was proposed by Venezuela and Algeria, but not Saudi. However, that delegate told the WSJ that Saudi and its Gulf peers "are ready to cooperate with others" to bring stability to the oil market.
Reuters earlier quoted Russia's Novak as saying, "Indeed, these parameters were proposed, to cut production by each country by up to 5 percent...This is a subject for discussions, it's too early to talk about," he said.
Novak also told reporters that a meeting between OPEC and non-OPEC members' oil officials has been proposed for next month to discuss the oil market.
Russia Set For Record Production AGAIN Even amid this news, Bloomberg is reporting Thursday morning that Russia is set to once again exceed a post-Soviet record in oil production. The country is on a trajectory to hit 10.89 M/bpd for the month of January- representing an increase of 83,000 bpd, according to Bloomberg estimates. That would be the largest monthly rise since September 2014.
Bloomberg reports that Russian industry officials and Novak discussed coordinated action with OPEC Wednesday night. Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov was quoted as saying, "The issue of oil-market volatility is being actively discussed...It is too early to predict the outcome of these talks.”
Bloomberg reports that Transneft CEO Nikolay Tokarev, who participated in the talks, told the media that need for dialogue with Saudi Arabia about the oil market and the possibility of participating in talks with the Saudi-led, 13-member group were discussed at Wednesday night's meeting.
There Are MANY Barriers To Coordinated Action Still, OPEC's Gulf states are publicly adhering to the group's market share strategy that it has firmly abided by through the last year-and-a-half. Anas Al-Saleh, Kuwait's acting oil minister, reportedly said Tuesday that OPEC will not curb output unless other producers cooperate. This has been a mantra of Saudi Oil Minister Ali Naimi throughout the downturn as well.
There remain several other significant barriers to coordinated action. Iran is getting ready to boost exports by 500,000-1 M/bpd. Recall also that Saudi and Iran's geopolitical rivalry is now also being expressed by oil production. Iran has been let out of the cage.
As relations between the two countries have further deteriorated, both sides are now fighting in proxy wars in Yemen and Syria. Adding to this geopolitical mess is the fact that Russia has joined Iran in supporting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. http://oilpro.com/post/21906/developing-russia-says-saudi-has-proposed-production-cuts-oil-spi?utm_source=DailyNewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter&utm_term=2016-01-28&utm_content=Article_3_txt |
Politics › Re: "The Economist" Accuses Buhari Of Worsening Nigeria's Economy by NavierStokes(op): 12:21am On Jan 29, 2016 |
TippyTop: Same Nwobodo is now a chieftain of the APC. Ha ha ha please tell him. With a "newly-washed" wife. |
Politics › Re: "The Economist" Accuses Buhari Of Worsening Nigeria's Economy by NavierStokes(op): 12:20am On Jan 29, 2016 |
benpedro: The foreign investors will just come, look at the fixed official rate and the parallel price of a dollar to naira and shake their head.what an unserious bunch of black asses.And please all these politicians here including the president himself should abstain from discussing the economy because most of them have little or no clue about basic economics.The VALUE of a currency DOES NOT depend on your emotions or your dreams of an industrialised nigeria but on the DEMAND of the naira in the money market!The true VALUE of the naira is what is obtainable in the parallel market and not the fixed CBN official rate.There are so many people especially those nigerians living in the diaspora who have lots of foreign currencies(of course their host countries must have devalued their own currency to the dollst)to send but sees the cbn official rate as funny and unserious,hence they will keep [b]their money waiting until the naira is OFFICIALLY devalued which is BOUND to happen sooner or later![/b]I am still waiting to see some of you here supporting this policy that are importers of anything including raw materials or cars who have gotten the dollars easily at the official rate.The price of everything has skyrocketed in the market and the president is saying he don't want to suffer the poor masses smh That is exactly the point, because a lot of foreign investors can't bring in the much needed forex until after the devaluation, which will definitely occur. |
Politics › Re: "The Economist" Accuses Buhari Of Worsening Nigeria's Economy by NavierStokes(op): 12:13am On Jan 29, 2016 |
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