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Politics / Re: BREAKING : Niger Delta Avengers Blow Up Agip Oil Line This Morning by NavierStokes(m): 11:44am On Jun 10, 2016
Built2last:


I have spoken to a few Niger Deltans with a view to pacifying few class mates I knew were mad those days.

they are resolved to continue.

the side of this crisis you are not looking at is that, youi need money to engage in any war and win. you need to buy arms either in cash or in exchange for crude oil.

these boys are grounding that. never forget it will take years to rebuild whatever they are destroying now.

Bokoharam war is totally different from this because there was money to fund the military, although Dasuki and co had a swell time.

the source of the money or crude is the Delta. Our chief enemy now is Iran. that nation doesn't forgive. If those boys ground the economy and get military hardware and support from Iran and other Shi'ite nations, It will be a long fight.

South Sudan (which had the oil) fought for their resource control for 17 years and UN had no option than carve them out for peace to reign.

A friend and I had this morning explored the Iran angle, my leanings as from the onset has been tending towards that and each attack makes it clearer. Government will not unmask/ triangulate any IP address as suggested by some. Their press releases seem like translated texts, they call the technical names of assets/facilities rather than locations and then wrongly spell the local names of these facilities, the bolded seems trivial but to me is the biggest pointer to something being run from outside.

Truth is the government doesn't yet know what it is up against, the oil companies have less than 10% of their production in Nigeria and will benefit greatly from rise in crude out there, Iran will increase her market share to pre sanction levels while settling scores with Nigeria and her Islamic coalition aspirations or ambitions.

Government should as a matter of urgency get the locals on their side by going the way of fiscal federalism.
Negotiations will not work at the moment because no body knows who these guys are, even the accused tompolo, mend general Africa and co are bewildered at the level these new kids are operating.

Nigeria has everything to gain, these boys have virtually nothing to lose. It's not enough for government to brandish an unfortunate electrician with wires and battery as an avenger coordinator.

Government can roll out their tanks to decimate communities, but truth is I doubt even the communities understand what is happening currently. Government doesn't understand so why should the common fisherman then understand what the powerful government doesn't understand.

Mankind amazes me, they struggle over tasks with even the most simple solutions.

Maybe we will all drown in this one, and the few survivors will then think in retrospect how stupid every one was at the time.

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Politics / Re: BREAKING : Niger Delta Avengers Blow Up Agip Oil Line This Morning by NavierStokes(m): 8:58am On Jun 10, 2016
Built2last:
why cant our intelligence team track the IP Address of these tweets and website.

It appears the whole thing is shrouded in grand conspiracy.

My chief suspicion remains on Iran. that country said it clearly that we will pay for how we treated their Shi'ite brothers....

I dey observe
Yes my brother, I have studied their mode of writing which sometimes seems like a translated text. This thing obviously doesn't originate from here, just as an example them calling the Agip line obi obi is something i doubt any one conversant with Niger Delta oil and gas business will do. OB/OB this is apart from so many obvious errors in nonmenclature I see on their tweets. Points to one and only one thing, the perpetrators are on ground, the tweets are arranged by someone possibly elsewhere or a foreigner on ground as well.

Let's see how things go, but right now it's really messy, I think the boys are beginning with the soft targets and government should do something before they move offshore. Because imagine having an explosion on an FPSO that will be a disaster, unlIke land that can be easily contained with almost zero loss of lives.

Government act now, anything that makes these boys leave onshore and swamp to offshore becomes a global disaster.

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Politics / Re: BREAKING : Niger Delta Avengers Blow Up Agip Oil Line This Morning by NavierStokes(m): 8:57am On Jun 10, 2016
Forgive me mods these guys got me on this one. "We will inform them when we are open for business".

Implying shop owner has closed for business for now.

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Politics / Re: "We Blew Up Agip Obi Obi Brass Trunk, In Bayelsa By 3Am" - Niger Delta Avengers by NavierStokes(m): 8:38am On Jun 10, 2016
Can agip withstand this? I see mass redundancies.

With tebidaba cloughcreek brass out
Now obiafu obrikom to brass also out . That's zero production for Agip. Avengers at this point "I take God name beg ona, na bayelsa plenty pass for Agip thats mass sacking of your brothers oh".

Please give government time to respond to your requests and please come down from your high ground, let's try fiscal federalism and see how it works, keep sovereignty for another day pls. I believe I speak on behalf of all reasonable people.because as it stands now the oil companies have a lot to gain from rise in prices in the intl market, since I doubt anyone of them makes 15% of their global production from Nigeria. They obviously have nothing to lose but everything to gain from rising prices in the market.

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Politics / Re: Buhari Appionts Ben Akabueze As Budget Office DG by NavierStokes(m): 9:35pm On Jun 09, 2016
blackpanda:


because na igbo now its a "good appointment" abi. Abeggi

sorry bro, since I am not Igbo. You guys just don't get it. Right is right, and evident for all to see, the opposite is also true.
Politics / Re: Buhari Sends 47 Ambassadorial Nominees To Senate For Approval by NavierStokes(m): 5:19pm On Jun 09, 2016
blackpanda:


Try and learn, not just argue for the sake of arguing. Show some level of maturity ok.
Have a good evening. Ciao
Politics / Re: Buhari Sends 47 Ambassadorial Nominees To Senate For Approval by NavierStokes(m): 3:59pm On Jun 09, 2016
busyfishing:
you come here and just type.Get a brain please

I could have used yours only it's a single digit processor, single digit I.Q, single digit SSD.
Politics / Re: Buhari Appionts Ben Akabueze As Budget Office DG by NavierStokes(m): 3:49pm On Jun 09, 2016
Good move and a welcome development. For those who brand everyone that criticizes the govt as "wailers". Where the government does what's good or makes good appointments, they will be applauded by all because it will be evident for all to see. The opposite scenario is where you have Gray areas or ambiguous policies or policies with possible adverse effect, then be sure to get criticisms or "wailings".

This man has proved himself worthy of the office and it's a case of a round peg in a round hole.

Congratulations on your appointment Sir and please start working on at least a 5- 10 years plan for Nigeria rather than the year on year rolling wave plans we have been used to.

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Politics / Re: Buhari Sends 47 Ambassadorial Nominees To Senate For Approval by NavierStokes(m): 3:45pm On Jun 09, 2016
blackpanda:


Insensitive how?? These people have jobs to do. Or shld we leave our embassies unmanned. To be ambassador is not a chieftancy title my friend. Those people represent the President in those countries and they our vital for international diplomacy and foreign policy. Its not a joke

And hasn't the system been running since members of the last set were recalled?
At a time of economic gloom such as this which obviously is an emergency, I think making appointments such as this is the last thing the hungry man I see everyday, wants to hear. Whichever way we try to argue it doesn't take away the fact that the timing of the appointments is insensitive considering what the country is going through, or did the president just realize he needed to have representations out there?
Politics / Re: Buhari Sends 47 Ambassadorial Nominees To Senate For Approval by NavierStokes(m): 2:25pm On Jun 09, 2016
Kullant:
....

So broz ! Ambassadors are not part of the President's cabinet abi ? And GEJ did not Appoint Ambassadors when he took over after Yar'adua died abi ?

And people like BIANCA OJUKWU and co were all appointed by Obasanjo and Yar'adua abi ?

And changing Ambassadors is increasing their new Ambassadors salaries abi ?

I THINK YOU TOO, SHOULD URGENTLY. ...

Making wrong comparisons, you have had your say now move on.
Politics / Re: Buhari Sends 47 Ambassadorial Nominees To Senate For Approval by NavierStokes(m): 1:52pm On Jun 09, 2016
blackpanda:


Appointment of ambassador is not a minor issue

Yes true bro, but at a time like this I am afraid it is. The people on the street of those who voted will all agree that it's quite insensitive considering current realities.
Politics / Re: Buhari Sends 47 Ambassadorial Nominees To Senate For Approval by NavierStokes(m): 1:51pm On Jun 09, 2016
Kullant:
.......So PMB just newly introduced the AMBASSADORIAL POSITION IN TO THE NIGERIA SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT abi ?

Right now bro it's a very insensitive thing to do at a time like this.
Politics / Re: Buhari Sends 47 Ambassadorial Nominees To Senate For Approval by NavierStokes(m): 1:49pm On Jun 09, 2016
OrlandoOwoh:

So it's now wrong to have ambassadors and high commissioners?

Timing my brother, timing.
Politics / Re: Buhari Sends 47 Ambassadorial Nominees To Senate For Approval by NavierStokes(m): 1:45pm On Jun 09, 2016
DTaj:


You are too daft to understand anything! How is appointing ambassadors an equivalent of "manufacturing political appointments"?

I blame Buhari; he should have fired the former guys since May 30 2015!

How could a new government still allow political appointees of a previous government (from an opposition party) remain in office for 13 months after take over? So many PDP guys are still holding political appointments- people like Emmanuel Iwuanyanwu, Senator Bob Effiong, and many others...

You must be the most unwise person to ever be on this forum, ever heard of sensitive decisions?, things should be done at the right time, most of the missions had their ambassadors recalled a long time ago, have the missions not been running? It's a good thing being done at a very bad time my friend, a time all hands should be on deck to get our economy moving is the best time in your "wise" opinion to deliberate on this silly issue.
Just take a look at yourself again and see the definition of what uou called me.
Politics / Re: Buhari Sends 47 Ambassadorial Nominees To Senate For Approval by NavierStokes(m): 1:40pm On Jun 09, 2016
jenigurl:

I saw what you did there smiley
Excellent word play my friend
Thanks milady.
Politics / Re: Foreign Refineries To Stop Buying Nigeria’s Crude Oil Due To NDA Attacks by NavierStokes(m): 1:39pm On Jun 09, 2016
Goke7:


you say boko haram had no effect on the economy? oh boy you fall my hand, do you know how much of our earnings as a nation has been expended in the last few years to fight boko haram without any returns on investment? do you how much that means to the economy, is it because oil prices were good in GEJ's time that you think boko haram had no effect on our economy. This is the problem we have, we think everything is oil. Do you know many farmlands and produce have been lost to bokoharam insurgency? You think those in IDP camps never had a source of livelihood? Please think again, if boko haram was not affecting our economy, GEJ will not not spend so much fighting boko haram, reason PMB is trying to avoid force on the NDA especially with the financial situation of the country despite all the provocations.

The NDA are criminals and with time, they will be decimated just like boko haram, break up within their ranks as a result of greed will be the starting point bruv.

At the bolded part of my statement, I am sure you saw the word "relative", like I said boko haram had relatively little effect on the economy, every one was going about their activities and crying for the loss of lives, right now bro the effects of these guys is yet to be felt, cos the reduced production when not available for export in the coming months will see our forex reserves dropping much further, deficits biting deeper, military spending increased etc. Allow fiscal federalism and see each unit becime more efficient, in the areas they possess comparative and absolute advantages. Each state can focus on what she does best and overall efficiency increases with more returns to the centre.
I am not surprised that the opposite is the case because MEDIOCRITY ALWAYS FEARS COMPETITION.

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Politics / Re: Foreign Refineries To Stop Buying Nigeria’s Crude Oil Due To NDA Attacks by NavierStokes(m): 12:34pm On Jun 09, 2016
Goke7:


Am amazed with the way you guys are defending these criminals, boko haram were also strategic in their operations too in their hey days. The true federalism talk is just being used to blackmail this govt and its all political as this is what majority of those who dined with GEJ but dislike PMB are saying. if the Niger delta truly wants true federalism, what are their lawmakers in both the senate and HOR doing to push that agenda?

You guys can keep hailing the NDA but not many of us are buying their lies that would soon expire

Boko haram was strategic? What is my learned friend drinking , and may I have a little of that pls?
Boko haram has waged a war for several years with relatively no effect on the economy, these boys are striking at the very core of the economy. We all wish it never came to this, I mean destruction of assets. But I put it to you that you are already aware that no form of deliberations in this national assembly will bring about the desired outcome. How many south south legislators are there, even with their minority numbers INEC has seen to most of them being indefinitely out of the chamber by refusing to recognize or reconduct their elections. Machiavelli says the end justifies the means so the government can chose to do the right thing which everyone agrees is best of they can chose to make every one suffer like they didwith the currency since lAst year only to change their mind later. No one defeats an idea whose time has come and you can never defeat an idea with force, but with a superior idea.
The way I see it these boys have time like the government and have carefully prepared for this in the years of peace, while government was expanding her armoury on boko haram.

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Politics / Re: Buhari Sends 47 Ambassadorial Nominees To Senate For Approval by NavierStokes(m): 12:23pm On Jun 09, 2016
"Manufacturing" more political appointees to drain the little change we have left in the system. This government has a very good knack for "majoring" in minor issues and "minoring" in major issues.

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Politics / Re: Foreign Refineries To Stop Buying Nigeria’s Crude Oil Due To NDA Attacks by NavierStokes(m): 12:12pm On Jun 09, 2016
Goke7:


stop the blackmail please, the NDA ish is about the FG dropping all charges of corruption against all persons from the Niger delta region. It has nothing to do with federalism or ownership of oil blocks. Reason they are not interested in dialogue, even the FG knows this.

That is not true, there are various groups in the struggle at the moment, Avengers are not in talks with anybody and they have said it " if the government is negotiating with anyone, they are on their own".
That corruption statement is highly laughable, if it did happen I see it as some politicians who view this as a golden opportunity to do some bargaining.

My colleagues and friends from the onset have said these boys want to be settled but the way this appears it's bigger than we all can see, cos of they were after some pounds or dollars they will not cause damages to this extent.

I strongly believe that if government dangles fiscal federalism before them, they can come down from the high ground of "sovereignty".

If you will be honest with yourself, these boys are nothing like we have ever seen almost the world over. All their hits have been strategic, imagine one hit taking out all of agips swamp area production, one hit taking out eroton, aiteo, newcross and energia's productions.

The government can keep living a lie but I think at this point even tompolo and mend both understand and agree that there is a new kid on the block.

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Politics / Re: Foreign Refineries To Stop Buying Nigeria’s Crude Oil Due To NDA Attacks by NavierStokes(m): 10:37am On Jun 09, 2016
tobex23:


The way you claim they are agitating for true federalism now, they should have done that when their son was the there, oh well, they did, what was the outcome.... He was too weak to implement it..
https://www.nairaland.com/2324309/well-resume-struggle-one-condition
Politics / Re: Foreign Refineries To Stop Buying Nigeria’s Crude Oil Due To NDA Attacks by NavierStokes(m): 10:29am On Jun 09, 2016
tobex23:



Lol, leave them alone... I wonder why they all kept must when Gen was there, the one who could have made their agitation faster to implementation... But because of hate and tribal sentiment, they kept quiet... Awon anumanu oshi

https://www.nairaland.com/2324309/well-resume-struggle-one-condition

Jonathan's government was like a restraining order.

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Politics / Re: Shell Pulls Out Of Ogoni Clean-up, Accuses FG Of Insincerity, Lack Of Commitment by NavierStokes(m): 3:21am On Jun 09, 2016
Sweetlemon:
If I got the information correctly, the funds for the clean-up is not meant to come from FG but from
So why the hullabo from Shell. Something is def wrong somewhere.

From where my dear, from where?

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Politics / Re: Shell Pulls Out Of Ogoni Clean-up, Accuses FG Of Insincerity, Lack Of Commitment by NavierStokes(m): 2:45am On Jun 09, 2016
I was singing here on nairaland since June of last year.
Clean-up exercise amounts to 1 billion dollars within the first 5 years , the NNPCs share of that is 550 million dollars, where is the loss making NNPC or FG going to get that amount from.
The oil companies have always been ready with their share, the government rather chose to play politics with this exercise leveraging on the very long projected timescale of the exercise (30 years). Below is a recent quote:

NavierStokes:
In his fanatical supporters own words "The president does not repeat visits, he already visited Ogoni land in 1984".

This clean-up remains one of the biggest sham these people will ever shore up, it's a pity that Jonathan didn't know how to do fakes not being a politician himself, he was a perfectionist who would want all the details to be taken care of before he acts. This was a project he could have just gone to kickstart with even 1 million naira and if work stops you explain to every one how it is a long term project and you are doing some work in the background until The end of your tenure. The APC understands it and will leverage on that to ride on people's gullibility.

The question I will ask, the clean-up is projected to cost about 1 billion USD, the JV partners will provide say 450million USD and the FG or NNPC has to provide 550 million USD, what plans has the government put in place for funding this sum, rather than deposit 10million usd as a take off sum? When is the next tranche of payments coming in? what's the government's strategy to get the work ongoing when it starts? What is the budget of ministry of environment? What provision is in the budget for this exercise ? It's not enough for the minister to say lack of funding will not stop the exercise knowing fully well there is no plan in place to ensure a continuous clean-up exercise thereby making it a rolling wave project.

Anyways those who will keep falling for propaganda can continue, in this Nigeria I smh for the largely ignorant population that can swallow any news hooks lines and sinkers without doing a critical analysis of the said news

Well, at the bolded, the IOCs obviously decided to not succumb to this dangerous dimension of propaganda and politics being played by this government for political points. Every well meaning Nigerian should appreciate them, rather than the zombies above me who are trying to pass on the blame to the western world.

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Politics / Re: Cowards!!!! Where Are The Missiles???? by NavierStokes(m): 8:04pm On Jun 08, 2016
druboon404:

What state are you from?....Ipob?

Delta
Politics / Re: Cowards!!!! Where Are The Missiles???? by NavierStokes(m): 7:51pm On Jun 08, 2016
druboon404:

Well,I am from Edo state.I know what you are talking about..paste government hasn't done much despite high crude oil price compare to what we have now..Gej is the most disappointing one among them because he is fron Niger delta and knows the rot that has been going on there.
What I can't understand is why people won't just give Buhari the time to perform?...all some people do everyday is to rain insult on him whereas "our son Gej" failed us big time.Take for example the Ogoni clean up which the current government has started despite the low price of oil.This is what Gej couldn't do..He was just sharing the money through Dasuki and Diezani...how can I be happy with him..I am no Apc or Pdp or any other party.I only follow anybody I feel will rule us well.Its just a year and I think we all need to support this government.He is not an angel or perfect.

Oh my brother from the old Bendel smiley some of these things are not as simple as they seem. But whichever ways we hope everything works very fine and everyone happily lives in peace and content.
Have a wonderful evening bro. I will run off for a while. Ciao.
Politics / Re: Cowards!!!! Where Are The Missiles???? by NavierStokes(m): 7:20pm On Jun 08, 2016
druboon404:

I see,I thought you are part of them..or are you just one of their sympathizer?


I am just a compassionate Nigerian a Nigerdeltan though who as things would have it, has been exposed to those communities and their plights, it's not a good thing to behold (i mean the conditions in those communities).
I also think some of us on here in nairaland have this mentality of "us against them", we all want a country that works, Is just and fair to her citizens, we may have different views though but then there is always that beauty in "intellectual and ideological" diversity.

Ps: just a quick one, ever been in the delta region?
Politics / Re: Cowards!!!! Where Are The Missiles???? by NavierStokes(m): 6:12pm On Jun 08, 2016
druboon404:

Whatever group you belong to is none of my business..don't stop,make sure you blow everything up ok?I mean level everything in sight...congrats in advance.

That's a bit belittling, a pity you think so little of me, take your message to the agitating youths and tell them yourself.
Politics / Re: Cowards!!!! Where Are The Missiles???? by NavierStokes(m): 5:49pm On Jun 08, 2016
druboon404:

I see,no wonder they claimed that they blew another pipeline this morning and couldn't lauch the imaginary Missiles..they can only deceive people like you...hahaha

That would have been true.hahaha unfortunately we both do not enjoy same exposures outside nairaland as regards the sort of info we are privy too. I trust you are having a great evening mate?

Ps: do you realize there are several groups out there?
Politics / Re: Cowards!!!! Where Are The Missiles???? by NavierStokes(m): 5:47pm On Jun 08, 2016
druboon404:

I see,no wonder they claimed that they blew another pipeline this morning and couldn't lauch the imaginary Missiles..they can only deceive people like you...hahaha

That would have been true.hahaha unfortunately we both do not enjoy same exposures outside nairaland as regards the sort of info we are privy too. I trust you are having a great evening mate?
Politics / Re: President Muhammadu Buhari Diagnosed With Cancer - TheTrentOnline by NavierStokes(m): 3:53pm On Jun 08, 2016
He said he was given the information by medical sources at the hospital who have been his longtime friends.
Well I will not fly with this information whose source derives his/her info through unethical means.

On the other hand president Buhari should get well soon finish his vacation and return to his duty post. He talked tough on Nigeria's problems so we must hold him to deliver.

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Politics / Re: Cowards!!!! Where Are The Missiles???? by NavierStokes(m): 7:09am On Jun 08, 2016
MaziOmenuko:


You actually thought someone can launch a missile from the creeks to hit abuja and Lagos? Do they have a base close to these towns or are they going to ferry the missile by aircraft? Nobody in their right senses will take that silly threat serious, only a few of you guys that secretly admire and support those thieves and economic saboteurs.

Abi they made it clear that they are not interested in any negotiations? Let them fly anything on Nigerian airspace without authorisation and watch the airforce shoot it down. Keep underestimating the Nigerian army. Go and ask boko haram how body be them now.

I know u are dissaopointed that nothing happened, but the truth is, the only way your brothers can hit abuja is if they ferry the missiles with witchcraft.

Launching a missile is independent of location (from their statement), they could have been anywhere. I am happy I woke up to the news that everywhere is calm. Like I said you can go on throwing jabs but the government doesn't share your views.

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Politics / Re: Cowards!!!! Where Are The Missiles???? by NavierStokes(m): 6:21am On Jun 08, 2016
druboon404:

You can as well address them as your heroes for "saving" many lives just like your hero Gej.When they success with their cheap plots,you hail them to high heaven.But when they fail,you cook up different kind of excuses to cover their shame.
You guys are indeed a wailing zombie.na wa for una.

You need to see and know things beyond nairaland. A lot has been ongoing underground the past few days but only the politico-socially myopic think it all starts and ends on nairaland.

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