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PoliticsRe: Financial Times calls Nigeria's economic approach the height of foolishness by NavierStokes(op): 7:25am On Jan 23, 2016
Can the mods please be kind enough to put this on the front page. It is clear the people at the helm of affairs are directionless at the moment and need our views to be able to have a direction as attested to by Oyegun himself.
PoliticsRe: Financial Times calls Nigeria's economic approach the height of foolishness by NavierStokes(op): 5:23am On Jan 23, 2016
asorocker:
Then what is her work as a finance minister if she cannot over see government parastatals under her.
Please help me ask that man.
PoliticsRe: Financial Times calls Nigeria's economic approach the height of foolishness by NavierStokes(op): 5:06am On Jan 23, 2016
omohayek:
No, on the contrary, it's your response that betrays blatant tribalism, rather than any interest in the objective facts. If you're going to blame people for bad policies, why not blame those actually responsible making the policies you're criticizing? That Emefiele and Onyema are responsible for the CBN and the NSE respectively are facts, not tribal attacks. Ignoring said facts, on the other hand, and blaming someone who has nothing to do with the policies, is in fact tribalism of the crudest and most ridiculous kind.
My brother as a final correction if you read my post you would have seen that my response was on a party and her administration, not an individual as you erroneously supposed. Every buck stops at the president's table, you can not convince us here that the president os not put on the know ( plus gives his nod to these policies from whoever it comes from), also he seeks expert opinion at the same time and majorly from his minister who sadly is yet to prove she isn't a novice in the economic jungle.
Arguing otherwise is to either assert that the president has a laissez faire relationship with his appointees or he sees his exonomic team as one of noise makers as has been previously declared.


Pls note that the CBN is inder the ministry of finance, and also the NSE though private is regulated by SEC and under the supervision of the ministry of finance. So trying to absolve madam finance minister is indirectly accusing her of laxity in her duties.
PoliticsRe: Financial Times calls Nigeria's economic approach the height of foolishness by NavierStokes(op): 4:57am On Jan 23, 2016
grandstar:
Buhari believes in statist policies. It was this hubris the country experienced in 1984-85 during his regime.

He won't devalue. He hates devaluations. Its like a child that hates the fsct that 1 + 1= 2.

By mid next year, the peoples patience will wrong.

The masses think thay because he is incorruptible that. means he is a financial genius.
All the people want is for him to empty himself of any conceit, plus a little knowledge of macro and micro economics, every buck stops at his table so i wonder why some people want to get into tribal rants here aboit why its anyone else's fault forgetting that the president ought to be aware of every action or inaction of his appointees.
PoliticsRe: Financial Times calls Nigeria's economic approach the height of foolishness by NavierStokes(op):
omohayek:
You point to an insightful article on Nigeria's economic direction, and then proceed to throw away all your credibility by endorsing a ridiculous attack on Kemi Adeosun, simply because it was made by "your brother". What a waste.
1.Making a reference to him as "my brother" has got nothing to do with ethnic affiliations but rather as one human to another.
2. The economic policies being brandished by this administration has all been synonymous with cluelessness.
3. I am afraid your responses are coming across as bigoted from the way youtried to shift blames to emefiele and onyema and attempting to shield the finance minister from attacks.
4. My brother do not be intransigent and assert that I am incredible because of differing opinions. The message was delivered exactly "as is" from the source.


PS: note that the CBN is inder the ministry of finance, and also the NSE thoigh private is regulated by SEC and under the supervision of the ministry of finance. So his assertion isn't unfounded and you arguing the contrary is an indirect attempt to accuse madam finance minister of laxity in carrying out her duties.

As for the genesis of most of these issues, i think this makes an interesting read below:

http://venturesafrica.com/features/president-buhari-just-might-have-reduced-nigerias-finance-minister-kemi-adeosun-to-a-glorified-figurehead/

Positing our current minister of finance might have been setup to be a clueless figurehead. You should have seen it playing out with the issue of our 2016 budget and the "alleged" fiasco in the UAE.
PoliticsRe: Financial Times calls Nigeria's economic approach the height of foolishness by NavierStokes(op): 9:52pm On Jan 22, 2016
chukwudi44:
That Kemi Adeseoun of a woman is the true depiction of cluelessness!!
My brother, i have been very vocal about these "venezuela styled" policies on here, i have seen first hand its effect on her people.
It baffles me how someone can see a failed policy and still go ahead to implememt same expecting a different result.

In all the party has been clueless on the economy as stated by their chairman, where he says they will convey a meeting of policy makers and stakeholders so as to be able to have a clear direction on the way forward, which in other words means they are yet to have a clue on the way forward these past months.
PoliticsFinancial Times calls Nigeria's economic approach the height of foolishness by NavierStokes(op): 9:21pm On Jan 22, 2016
Naira devaluation talk grows stronger as Nigeria also adopts Chinese-type circuit breaker

Nigeria plans to create a $25 billion fund with public and private financing to modernize infrastructure and avoid a recession.

Copying Venezuela’s exchange rate policy and China’s failed equity market strategy might seen the height of foolishness.


But, at least in the opinion of John Ashbourne, Africa economist at Capital Economics, that is precisely what Nigeria, the continent’s largest economy, has just done.

“Low oil prices are battering Nigeria’s export-dependent economy, but it’s the government’s market-distorting response that risks pushing the country into a Venezuela-style crisis,” Mr Ashbourne says.
“Nigeria is sliding towards a Venezuela-style FX regime and adopting a Chinese-style stock market circuit breaker. Neither will reassure foreign investors, many of whom seem to be eyeing the exits.”
Both measures were announced after markets closed on Friday, January 15.
The circuit breaker on the Nigerian stock exchange, one of the worst performing in the world this year with a fall of 17.7 per cent, will pause trading for 30 minutes if stock prices fall 5 per cent. Trading will cease for the day if it is triggered twice in a session, or after 1.45pm.
This month, Beijing abandoned a similar policy after just four days, concluding that in a falling market the existence of the circuit breaker encouraged more selling as traders rushed to exit while they could.
“The effect is akin to calling last orders at a crowded bar,” Mr Ashbourne says. “It is hardly confidence-inspiring that Nigeria is copying a Chinese policy that is widely seen to have failed.”
He accepts that Nigeria’s circuit breaker may not be as badly designed as the Chinese version. Whereas the NSE All Share index rarely falls by 5 per cent a day, the Shanghai Composite did so a dozen times in 2015. The NSE’s version has not yet been called into action.
Nevertheless, Mr Ashbourne says that using a circuit breaker to shore up the market, rather than to avoid volatility, is “deeply flawed”.
Simultaneously, the central bank has said it will stop selling US dollars into the interbank FX market.

Nigeria has operated a de facto twin currency system for the naira since February 2015, when the bank held the official interbank rate at N199 to the dollar to avoid a spike in inflation. The unofficial rate, available at bureaux de change, has plunged to N300/$, as the first chart shows.
However Mr Ashbourne argues the latest move takes Nigeria a step along the road to a Venezuela-style scenario, where the dollar now buys 913 bolívars on the black market, according to dolartoday.com, compared with an unofficial rate of 6.28/$.
“Suspending US dollar sales to the interbank market will force consumers and firms to source dollars at bureaux de change,” he says, while providing an implicit subsidy for companies and individuals with the connections needed to access the official rate.
As the second chart shows, Nigeria’s reluctance to let the naira’s official exchange rate weaken means it has borne the brunt of the sharp fall in oil prices since the middle of 2014.
In naira terms, the oil price has fallen from $115 a barrel to around $35, with the modicum of weakening permitted so far doing little to take the edge off the fall in oil prices to $28 in dollar terms.

In contrast, Russia, which has allowed the rouble to fall sharply, is still seeing oil prices of around $65 in local currency terms, with many other oil exporters such as Brazil and Azerbaijan also seeing more cushioning of the blow than Nigeria.
Charles Robertson, chief global economist at Renaissance Capital, who drew up the second chart, expects Nigeria to bow to the seemingly inevitable and devalue the naira, given that his calculation of fair value is N305/$, very close to the current black market rate.
He notes that frontier market funds are now underweight Nigerian equities, and believes that international investors “are likely to remain on the sidelines,” barring an obvious catalyst for change.
Nevertheless he believes a devaluation to N250/$, “while no longer sufficient to ease all dollar shortages ... would be good enough to warrant investors taking a fresh look at Nigeria, especially if they expect a rebound in the oil price”.
Daniel Salter, global equity strategist at RenCap, has been busy analysing just when equity market investors should consider returning to a freshly devalued Nigeria, if history is anything to go by.
Mr Salter analysed 13 emerging market currency devaluations since 1994 in countries ranging from Mexico and Turkey to Egypt and South Korea.
His conclusions are that it is rarely worth buying in anticipation of a currency devaluation and that, on average, equity markets do not hit their low point (in dollar terms) until 99 days after the start of the currency devaluation.

This delay can vary significantly, though, as the final chart shows. In the case of South Korea in 1997 the stock market troughed the day before the won started to fall. In Nigeria itself, in 2009, this point was reached after 35 days.
However in the cases of Thailand (1997), the Philippines (1998) and Egypt (2001), it would have paid equity market investors to stay out for at least six months.
Mr Salter believes the lag is due to two factors: the initial devaluation is often insufficient to stabilise the currency; and that devaluations frequently coincide with banking crises.
Unfortunately, this analysis probably tells us little about how Nigeria’s equity market is likely to behave in the year after any devaluation.
In the 13 previous episodes, the stock market typically fell 3 per cent in dollar terms in the three months after the start of the devaluation. However, as the above chart shows, there has been huge variability in this figure, from -56 per cent in Mexico in 1994-1995 to +100 per cent in South Korea in 1997-98.
Likewise, on average the typical stock market gained 4 per cent in dollar terms in the year after the devaluation, but once again this is the average of a widely dispersed data set, with the returns ranging from -86 per cent (Indonesia, 1997-98) to +172 per cent (South Korea).
The sector breakdown perhaps delivers a clearer message. RenCap found that consumer staples stocks have tended to outperform in the 12 months after the start of a devaluation, while consumer discretionary companies and industrials tend to pick up once the currency has bottomed.
Financial stocks, in contrast, tend to be the worst sector in the year after a devaluation, probably due to declining credit quality.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/3/5b13549a-bf74-11e5-846f-79b0e3d20eaf.html#axzz3y3yTTPfZ
PoliticsRe: John Kerry Didn't Praise Buhari At World Economy Forum Here Is What He Said by NavierStokes(m): 7:39pm On Jan 22, 2016
Op please be kind enough to include these sources:


http://news.yahoo.com/us-seeks-big-boost-global-refugee-support-funds-110742844--politics.html


http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/22/politics/john-kerry-davos-corruption-driver-extremism/index.html


Since some people have decided to drag the high office of the U.S Secretary of state into their propaganda its the duty of every right thinking Nigerians to adopt a standpoint of assuming every information from them as false until proven true. "Methodic doubt" becomes our tool for survival against this "media" onslaught.
PoliticsRe: God Has A Hand In Nigeria’s Present Economic Challenges — APC by NavierStokes(m): 8:21am On Jan 22, 2016
vfactor:
“We are in the process of organising a three-day dialogue which will bring the party, government and stakeholders for an exposition on the realities facing the country, particular the economy. It will provide an opportunity to exchange ideas so that we go home with a clear direction on how to go forward.”


“The fight against corruption has already started yielding results as looted public funds are being exposed and returned while everybody occupying public office today is conscious of his actions knowing that there would be consequences for any inaction or wrong action.”
Paragraph one is an obvious admittance of the fact that at the moment the APC has no clear idea on the way forward, which from my dictionary is synonymous to cluelessness and discombobulation. This could be comeuppance on Nigerians for allowing this power and ego tripped individuals into the helm of affairs.

With the current realities on ground , paragraph 2 holds no waters, if the government is clueful on the issue of loot recovery, they would know that any intelligent 14 year old will be after the "phantom" 49 billion dollars missing in NNPC than deploying hwe resources to go after 13.6 billion naira from Dasuki.
PoliticsRe: FG Loses N470m Daily On Escravos Pipeline Attack by NavierStokes(m): 6:33am On Jan 22, 2016
How much is the Tompolo court case? 13 billion more or less, what this implies is that every other day we, as a nation sink 1 billion from the total sum, excluding the cost of the military operation and the attendant loss of revenue from power transmission which are discussions for another matter. People (govt) don't look at the cost-benefit analysis of their actions and decisions.
PoliticsRe: Why The N50 Charge By Fg Is Corruption In Itself by NavierStokes(m): 3:33am On Jan 21, 2016
cocu25:
U deserve an award!... In fayose tone "this government is like nollywood"
My brother, this government is really a nollywood star studded cast of comical characters.
PoliticsRe: Why The N50 Charge By Fg Is Corruption In Itself by NavierStokes(m): 11:44pm On Jan 20, 2016
SeanDada1:
I can feel fashola's presence in the useless affairs of this country. Taxing everything from money, electricity, roads, water,
What will poor bubu do? He only knows to "pight kwarofshun" so he will indirectly remain tinubu's economic "halleluyah boy", we should expect more from where all these are coming from.
PoliticsRe: Nigerians: We Don't Live In Paradise And We Know It by NavierStokes(m): 6:12pm On Jan 20, 2016
francizy:
Yes I am. What about you?
Going on in the best possible way.
PoliticsRe: Nigerians: We Don't Live In Paradise And We Know It by NavierStokes(m): 5:27pm On Jan 20, 2016
francizy:
That is exactly how they sit abroad and tell us what is happening in Nigeria. If Nigeria is so cozy and so lovely to stay in, why did him and all his family members use all the necessary means (might even be their last money on earth) to send him away from Nigeria? We live in paradise yet ordinary election generated so much tension that thousands of people flooded the airports trying to run to countries they presumed was safer. Nigeria is eldorado yet our police kill us as much as armed robbers, ritualists, etc do. Nigeria is eldorado yet NE is facing boko haram menace while the people in power chooses to play politics with the insurgency. Nigeria is heaven yet it records the highest rates of accidents on yearly basis, due to the terrible nature of our roads. Nigeria is Paradise but tens of millions are living without jobs. Enough said, if we are enjoying ourselves here, that guy should just leave wherever he is and come enjoy with us.

By the way, you forgot to add that after buying land, while building our houses, we're multiply taxed by omonile for building a fence, foundation, doing lintel, decking, roofing, etc.

You hit the nail on the head sir, as a matter of fact, after building, the government still takes land use charge from us on yearly basis. We build and maintain our own roads, pay vigilante men while police runs around just to catch only people they can extort money from, we buy bathing water from tankers and since our area is bad, our borehole (which the government didnt help us sink) water is hard and therefore used for flushing toilets alone, we pay electricity bills as much as 5-15k per month without enjoying more than 50 hours power in a month.
My brother, they make it sound like Nigerians are stupid or something. I have never claimed tax refund at the airport on an outward journey from any country. And I am sure its same for most of us here, when we travel we "dash" them our tax because you feel so satisfied with all yoit spendings and almost feel the system giving you more than you put in, not here in Nigeria where at every turn you are greeted by unnecessary expenses that is supposed to be Govt's responsibility. They should do the right things other than pushing their responsibilities to the common man and the citizens will be more than willing to respond. Hope you are having a great evening.
PoliticsRe: Nigerians: We Don't Live In Paradise And We Know It by NavierStokes(m): 12:45pm On Jan 20, 2016
idupaul:
Don't mind that man joor..that thread was really annoying. .it really provoked me..paradise in deed ....the senseless guy doesn't know that till recently PHCN gave me a bill of 30k every month for light I never saw and they ate the money I paid for prepaid meter and I had to get another through some extortion route because I was so tired of paying 30 k for light I don't see .
If only government can live up to her responsibilities, I wonder how tax payment will be a challenge. Imagine paying someone money for doing nothing, very similar to the "slavery" that was ongoing in Ethiopia (early 20th century), when the tenants owed half of their earnings and proceeds to the Lords including working for free with any skills they had.
PoliticsRe: Why The N50 Charge By Fg Is Corruption In Itself by NavierStokes(m): 11:21am On Jan 20, 2016
As someone aptly put it: this govt gave us 50kobo on pms and are taking 50naira from our bank transactions.
"Change"
Foreign AffairsRe: Pakistan Attacks: Dozens Killed In Terror Raid At Bacha Khan University by NavierStokes(m): 10:39am On Jan 20, 2016
The terrorists are at it again. RIP to the dead
PoliticsRe: Nigerians: We Don't Live In Paradise And We Know It by NavierStokes(m): 10:16am On Jan 20, 2016
Tell em. Exactly the reason why corruption thrives in our society. Lets look at this scenario: a man buys a plot of land in say an undeveloped area, creates access roads by himself, digs a well and sinks a borehole to provide water for his site's development, builds his house by himself, buys the electric poles and draws the line to his house by himself, and if possible organizes with neighbours to buy a transformer, buys a generator to provide his electricity then contributes for the local vigilante plus still sends his kids to private school because of the inadequacies associated with most public schools, and also takes care of dependent relatives (unemployed plus not well to do) that should otherwise be taken care of by the government, still has his taxes deducted by his employers and someone sits abroad to say such a man is living in paradise. Which of us will be happy paying for services that are not rendered. The government is running after contractors today for contracts paid for but not executed, do they know they are also in a "social contract" with the citizenry of which they are failing in their part of the agreement. All my years living abroad i never felt bad about paying the taxes, but here in Nigeria "i swear e dey pain me die".

If one is self sufficient and salary doesnt take into account provision of all these amenities, then you find people looking for every means to meet up. Or who would say he has ever received a salary that makes provision for connecting electricity, or maintaining the road to his residence?
PoliticsRe: 55 Persons Stole N1.34tr In Eight Years – FG by NavierStokes(m): 12:05pm On Jan 19, 2016
drss:
just last year black charcoal face oshiomole said US official wispered into his ears dat one minister under GEJ stole $6 billion. dis is about N1. somtin trillion. today na 55 pipul. dis APC govt ar not serious at all.
They can keep shifting the goalpost but then there's always that day of reckoning, in form of 2019 elections
PoliticsRe: Buhari’s Budget Fails Integrity Test, Says Senate by NavierStokes(m): 9:10am On Jan 19, 2016
PAINGAIN:
Can't this government do something and do it right. Appointing ministers took 5months, elections r inconclusive, and now to pass budget na wahala. Honestly speaking, buhari is confused.
Even packing into Aso rock was a problem. When someone has the spirit of dullness, It permeates every facet of his endeavour.
PoliticsRe: 55 Persons Stole N1.34tr In Eight Years – FG by NavierStokes(m): 5:40pm On Jan 18, 2016
No longer 7 people stole 3.3 trillion. DJ keep remixing the music.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria's Present Economic Struggles: Vital Lessons We All Must Heed by NavierStokes(m): 4:59pm On Jan 18, 2016
dearpreye:
Only the wise will learn from the mistakes of the present.
Well said bro couldn't have been better put, good to see wise men like you making the effort to get others in sync.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria's Present Economic Struggles: Vital Lessons We All Must Heed by NavierStokes(m): 4:45pm On Jan 18, 2016
We are so blessed to experience these in our own lifetime, as every wise man will pick up the morals here to utilize in the better days that are to come.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria To Shut Down Oil Fields Amidst Low Oil Prices by NavierStokes(op): 1:27pm On Jan 18, 2016
pat077:
we're fast approaching d era where water will b cheaper than dan oil.
Nope bro, rather a spike will be experienced.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria To Shut Down Oil Fields Amidst Low Oil Prices by NavierStokes(op): 12:46pm On Jan 18, 2016
Ijaya123:
In essence, Tompolo & co are just in a futile exercise.
Lol
PoliticsRe: Nigeria To Shut Down Oil Fields Amidst Low Oil Prices by NavierStokes(op): 11:34am On Jan 18, 2016
Shutting down production will likely be across board, save for the very low cost producers. This event will make the oil find a bottom faster, which implies that the much anticipated rebound is closer.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria To Shut Down Oil Fields Amidst Low Oil Prices by NavierStokes(op): 11:07am On Jan 18, 2016
nedu86:
Recession
Bad but spells a silver lining at the same time
PoliticsNigeria To Shut Down Oil Fields Amidst Low Oil Prices by NavierStokes(op): 10:54am On Jan 18, 2016
The government may commence shutting in oil fields as the oil prices drop, as cost of production approach the selling price, on a barrel basis.

Source channels tv.

Details later
PoliticsRe: Militants Bomb Oil Installations In Warri, Delta by NavierStokes(m): 1:07pm On Jan 16, 2016
bakynes:
I just laugh @ Lord, he doesn't know you cannot fight government no matter how much billions you have acquired. Worse come to worst the whole Country will suffer for the oil facilities destroyed and I can tell you it's the ND that will suffer for it the most coz your land will be the war zone, your only source of livelihood is Oil other regions have other things they are into. So I advice the likes of @Lord making mouth to better warn Tompolo to submit himself.
Brother, take a look at somalia, take a look at Libya, Yemen etc then maybe you wouldn't make that assertion again.
BusinessRe: Naira At Lowest Level In 43 Years, Now N305/dollar by NavierStokes(m): 6:09am On Jan 14, 2016
They say the previous administration was clueless and all that, how much was stolen in all 5 years of the administration? This administratiom comes in "clue-more" and the first 12 days of January 2016 alone, has seen the stock market alone lose 1.2trillion NGN. Then you begin to wonder. In my opinion from an economic viewpoint incompetence is worse than corruption.

All what we are experiencing is an offshoot of having a government whose confidence greatly exceeds her competence, it is a sure recipe for disaster.
BusinessRe: CBN Stops Sales Of Forex To Bureax-De-Change by NavierStokes(m): 10:59pm On Jan 11, 2016
One after the other, everyone will feel the change.

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