₦airaland Forum

The kind of pettiness exhibited by the former first lady is indicative of the fact that she had no business being in Aso Rock in the first place. Sorry to say, but Good Riddance.

Fishing ko, husbandry ni.

The fools have obtained over $40billion from the Feds in the past few years and should have established the largest fishing operation in the entire African continent, big enough to supply seafood to all of Africa and other countries. Instead of doing that, they looted all the funds and left the masses of the region in abject poverty.

As if to say Orubebe has no shame, and despite having billions of looted funds in his own personal account, he is now calling on the masses to go back to fishing. Meanwhile, the masses are undertrained, underfunded, and have no real chance of undertaking fishing on a commercial scale.

Orubebe, mgbo piafuka gi isi.

These Subsidy thieves who are holding Nigerians as hostages should be dealt with as terrorists.

They should be rounded up and stoned.

Oahray:
285 - 253 = 3 votes?

Na wa o...

nna, e be like say my glasses fail me o. no vex

I still consider this to be a statistical tie.

NLjega:
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Ladies and Gentlemen,
The Winner, Miss Nairaland 2015 Edition is none other than...
The Intelligent, Pretty, Sound, and Amiable




TOHPAHZ!!!!!!!!
Nurse Tohpahz!!!!!!!

With 285 votes

*a standing ovation for her please*
*rounds and rounds of applause for the new queen*


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First of all Congratulations to all contestants.

Given the fact that NLers are known to have multiple userids, and can vote multiple times for the same person, in the name of fairness, I propose that Miss Nairaland 2015 crown should be jointly given to Twaci and TOHPAHZ. I meean only 3 votes separated the 2, and if that is not the definition of a tie, I don't know what is.

My 2 kobo

Truckpusher:
Shamelessness is your middle name abokki.

It is shame that people from different parts of the world should be treated differently because of their country of origin backed by warped imperialists ideologies.

Until you give me one reason why Dick Cheney isn't and hasn't been extradited ,you have the right to shut the hell up.

You people and the Yorubas are a disgrace to the black race, a mistake for the entire Bantu people - If we look into the oil sector properly, I'm sure our prisons will have enough white inmates but here you are supporting an idea that is purely a political witch-hunting and way of sending a subtle message to our leaders that they can always use their own people to get back at them.

Why should we listen to the US when they've made it plain to us that Dick Cheney can't be subjected to any form of scrutiny in a Nigerian court? aren't we humans with laws? are we sub humans to them by any standard of existence?They eat,they poo,they fucck and they die like us

your tribes and kinsmen are responsible for the backwardness of the most populous black nation just because your mouth is still stuck on the whiteman's asss for life just to remain relevant and lord over your own people even when your people would do your biddings if there is equity,fairness and justice.

At a time when the black race have seen the true color of the whiteman ,you're still here blabbing like an iidiot.

You and your kinsmen will forever remain in mental slavery.....Go figuire

The above crap is nothing but red herring. Please lookup the meaning of red herring to fully understand what I stated.

I will not stoop low like you to insult an entire tribe or group of Nigerians in a bigoted rant like you did in the above post. What is not disputed is that Kashamu is a wanted man who should be extradited to the USA so that he can defend himself or be imprisoned. Dick Cheney has absolutely nothing to do with Kashamu's international drug dealing affairs.

Go and open a separate thread on Dick Cheney or the Haliburton affair and we can deal with pertinent issues there. For now you are polluting this thread with your bigotry and abject ignorance.

I respectfully ask you to get lost if you are too immature to debate without allowing your bigotry to get the best out of you.

mgbo piafuka gi isi

donphilopus:
Who posted this comment?! The supposed poster can never say such, so, I doubt if he was the one!

Indeed. The supposed poster hates Buhari with a passion.

I suppose even such haters are not averse to Buhari's anti corruption stance.

Truckpusher:
When are they extraditing Dick Cheeney from the U.S. to face charges for his involvement in the Halliburton scam?

It is a shame that we have to put our people at the mercy of these imperialists whose crime against black Africa has never been paid for in any manner. Jonathan should stop this mess , let Buhari do it himself .


Sometimes I'm forced to believe that the Black man is the most iidiotic being ever created by God if at all God exists .

Oga, you should remove effeminate emotionalism and self hatred from your analysis and thought expression.

It is a big disgrace and a shame that we continue to allow common criminals to run the affairs of this country. Here is a man wanted for drug crimes and in the process of being extradited to the USA, poised to becoming a Senator of this great country, at a time when anti corruption Buhari is ready to become the President. This is the same man you are trying to defend by introducing unrelated issues of Dick Cheney's into the mix.

We have a treaty with the USA and it should be honoured in this case. If such treaties exist, between the US and other countries including Nigeria, which would apply to the Cheney case, let them go to court and obtain appropriate court orders.

You come across as one of the people who were defending Ibori because other criminals from states other than in the SS had not yet been prosecuted. Wharaaaashame.

Lets hope Patience and GEJ will find it in their hearts to give these people small kola nut.

GEJ is not capable of being the leader of PDP, he is simply too weak for that position. he should step aside and let capable opposition, free of cluelessness, emerge.

barcanista:
The Lower Niger struggle for emancipation and end to marginalisation will continue by exploring every internationally accepted process. We are pro-US and and not anti-anybody. Our demand is both legitimate and divine. It shall not be decimated.

The way I see it, you people have 2 options

1)Wholeheartedly support the new President and dedicate your struggles to the betterment of Nigeria as one country

or

2)Declare your own nation and secede

Either choice takes great courage. To remain neither here nor there is cowardice, and I'm afraid that Asari and his cohorts are beginning to sound like hungry cowards.

abbey621:
Forget about the Oath, it holds no weight in regards to dual citizenship, it's just as if saying the pledge of allegiance of the United States. The link I provided you is directly from the state department which recognizes dual citizenship. That is the official law when it comes to immigration matters and for the record no person has ever lost U.S citizenship for maintaining dual citizenship. Furthermore if the oath was to be taken seriously, then all naturalized U.S citizens would have renounced their former citizenship meaning you can't travel to Nigeria or any other country with another passport, now since we know that to be false there's no need arguing here. The problem with Nigerians such as yourself is you take the law word for word not knowing that 9/10th of the law is subject to interpretation!

Dis one na new analysis o. So some laws in the books with citations are not applicable because as you stated, they are not official. Chai, come and see American wonder!

abbey621:
Please read the document carefully, you are never required to renounce your citizenship before becoming a U.S citizen rather you are required to swear allegiance to the United State and that country. Simply put, you must follow the laws of both countries.

For your convenience I have copied part of the document below:

Well let me inform you of the applicable law in the USA:

Look up the law: 8 C.F.R. Part 337 (2008) .

The oath below speaks for itself . You are required to take this oath before becoming a naturalized U.S. citizen, its the last thing you do before a judge "welcomes you to America"

The current oath is as follows:
I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.


You people need to read the oath carefully before taking it. So Oga, if you are a naturalized US citizen you renounced your Nigerian citizenship. It is left to the Nigerian supreme court to state otherwise. Until then..........

abbey621:
You are incorrect! Take a look at the link below directly from the state department in regards to dual citizenship:

http://travel.state.gov/content/travel/english/legal-considerations/us-citizenship-laws-policies/citizenship-and-dual-nationality/dual-nationality.html

No one is disputing the legality of dual citizenship. The issue at hand is renunciation of Nigeria citizenship in a foreign court such as the USA. Read the rest of my posts on the thread.

CFCfan:
According to Section 29.(1) "Any citizen of Nigeria of full age who wishes to renounce his Nigerian citizenship shall make a declaration in the prescribed manner for the renunciation.

(2) The President shall cause the declaration made under subsection (1) of this section to be registered and upon such registration, the person who made the declaration shall cease to be a citizen of Nigeria.

(4) For the purposes of subsection (1) of this section.
(a) "full age" means the age of eighteen years and above;

(b) any woman who is married shall be deemed
to be of full age.

Therefore, I believe a 'renunciation' of Nigerian citizenship by a citizen by birth in a foreign country is not recognized in Nigeria. The individual is still a bonafide citizen until the provisions of the aforementioned section are fulfilled.

I hope you are right because I'm not so sure that it is as black or white as it appears on the surface. There are one or two cases out there which will give the Supreme court the opportunity to settle the matter once and for all.

Asari should have convened the meeting after May 29th, make baba go dia and round up the suckers.

Raheem2386:
But pls, if my dad is from Delta state and I was born in Adamawa, can I claim it(adamawa) as my state of origin? Can I contest for electoral offices in adamawa? Please clarify. Thanks.

You will be able to do that as soon as the Amendments to the current constitution are ratified. The provision which would allow you to do that is included in the Amendments.

LFJ:
Nigeria Constitution is very direct on the issue of citizenship by birth. By our constitution, a citizenship by birth can never be taken away by any act of our constitution regardless of the situation. It is a right you have until death do you apart.
However, your right as a citizen can be denied if you are find guilty of criminal offense. Becoming a naturalize citizen of another country is not a criminal offence under our constitution, therefore, being a naturalize citizen of another country does not take away your citizen's rights and privileges as a Nigerian by birth.

Great info.

You stated: "By our constitution, a citizenship by birth can never be taken away by any act of our constitution regardless of the situation. " I'd appreciate if you could provide the constitutional provision which states that a renounciation of the said citizenship by a person, having duly sworn to renounce the same, cannot or will not be honoured by Nigeria. As far as I can tell, the supreme court is yet to weigh in on this issue.

CriticalThought:
Not true, I think you can hold both

I'm not saying that you cannot hold both. Reread my other comments on this thread. Renunciation is the issue

Nna, that twaci babe has campaigned so effectively that I didn't bother to read anything, I was just looking for her name. shey you don go learn from Buhari, ko?

abbey621:
I think you are mistaken. The constitution of the United States recognizes dual citizenship, so does Nigeria. In order to fully renounce your Nigerian citizenship, an affidavit must be sworn with a Nigerian court. Now keep in mind U.S citizenship requires maintaining a residence in the U.S for a certain amount of time and can be easily revoked, whereas Nigerian citizenship requires no such thing and hence people are able to manipulate the system whenever issues like these are discussed within the judicial system.

Indeed.

If your parents are Americans and you were born in Israel for example, you are automatically a dual citizen of both countries. Similarly if your parents are Nigerians and you were born in the USA, you are automatically a Nigerian Citizen. In both of these cases, no renounciation of citizenship of the USA is required. The USA and Nigeria will recognize your dual citizenship without constitutional issues.

However, if born a Nigerian, you now apply for citizenship in the USA via naturalization, you will be required to renounce your citizenship as part of the procedure. These are the "dual citizens" whose eligibility to hold office has not yet been determined....as I see it. I stand corrected if someone can offer a contrary opinion which supports a different state of being.

stephmike:
but that ur submission contravene the constitution of Nigeria.

Please tell me how?

We discussed this issue back in 2011 in this thread. I'd recommed that users go through that thread.

My take, in simple terms: if you have not renounced your Nigerian citizenship, then as a Nigerian, you are still entitled to all rights constitutionally bestowed on Nigerian citizens including the right to hold public offices.

Thus dual citizens who have not renounced their Nigerian citizenships are eligible to hold office. Now for the kicker: renounciation of your existing citizenship is required of naturalized citizens of the USA. That means if you were born a Nigerian citizen and you become a naturalized citizen of the USA, you have effectively renounced your Nigerian citizenship.

Now, the supreme court can hold that Nigerian citizenship can only be renounced in a Nigerian court, if they do, then dual citizens of the USA are home free. Until then, the jury is still out.

Even this Abati is starting to sound clueless like his oga at the top. How can you lose a Presidential election and then assert that you outsmarted the winner? mumu

Mogidi:
We already know they're not keen, after all its a party for the Hausas.

APC: A party of Hausas by Hausas and for the Hausas, its real name should be Arewa Peoples Congress.

e be like say Mogidi is still suffering from the election losses. ndo o.

No wonder she was out of public view for weeks after their election loss. pele Madam, May God continue to heal you.

olabamidelemi, olabamidelemi, olabamidelemi!! How many times I call ya name?

ibu onye ofemmana? mba, onye Igbo ka ibu.

ProfCorruption:
nduchucks where are you? Awolowo thanked Ojukwu for releasing him from prison.

First of all, how bodi na? Long time, hope all is well with you, if so, doxology.

err, that "thank you" by Awolowo, if true, get as e be o. Is this not the same Awolowo who orchestrated the strategy of blockage which caused the death of hundreds of thousands of our people? Granted Awo expected that Ojukwu would surrender shortly after the blockade. Since Ojukwu refused to surrender, Awo did not see it fit to call the blockade off, making him partially responsible for starving women and children.

The great Ikemba, who has my utmost admiration, even as we speak, let me down by refusing to surrender even after it was obvious that there was no way out. If he had fought to the finish, he would have been my number one hero, but what did he do? He eventually fled.

Awo fell my hand since the time we read that he fought Akintola, tooth and nail, for building a coalition much like Tinubu has done - but thats a story for another day.

CFCfan:
Of course under international law, the off-shore resources belong to the sovereign state, but the on-shore resources should belong primarily to the host communities or host states.

I agree with you. Each state should control its own resources 100%.

The problem I have with the current derivation plan is that is it senseless and unfair. Gains from offshore resources should be shared among every state regardless of whether the state is oil producing or not, based of proper revenue sharing schemes such as population and other parameters..

As far as onshore oil goes, the states should receive more. Here also, other states must receive a fair share. Federal funds were invested in the exploration of these resorces and the land where the resources are found is actually federal property. The only reason why states should receive more is because of the negative effect on their environment, nothing more.

Lazy states who have not invested 1 kobo in exploration should not have their hands out for silly awoof.

I have no sympathy for such states who have hitherto recieved $$billions and have allowed their Governors to squander the funds with impunity.

CSTR2:
So who bear the brunt of the rampant environment and food pollution caused by oil spillage in the so-called offshore?
Before Nigeria became a country, were those "off-shores" not territorial waters and major food sources of communities and clans.?
Lame-brained parasite.

How much clean up have your Governors and village chiefs who have been paid at least $3-5billion over the past decade done? mumu

One would expect the lazy folks among indigenes of "Oil Producing" areas to cry foul.

They continue to fail to grasp the fact that the vast majority of oil produced in Nigeria is from offshore resources, far away from the border of any state. This simply means that since most of the oil is located in the territorial waters owned by Nigeria, as opposed to any state, ALL of Nigeria should benefit from this fund.

NASS did the right thing in this case. The days of providing free, unearned funds to many of these states, most of which is stolen by their Governors, is over.

Change is here and there is a Sherif in town.