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Lucrativress:
Companionship and friendship

I think both are the same thing miss smart pants

CheedyJ:
I’m also joking too ooo

I knew, no p jare

CheedyJ:
You’re free to remove it from yours sha, I just don’t want to reason it

Lol...take it easy, it's only a question.

CheedyJ:
Why you wan remove sex?

So if I remove sex and money, what will be left?

Getdabag:
friendship doesnt exist if ur freind with a girl without preekin her then ur a fool

You have been seen.

fati2001:
lust!!!

mind you, we don't have relationship but relationsex.

Your answer is off o fatimore

Divoc19:
Unconditional Love.

Very true. Unconditional Love. And you can prove this through your care, concern, advice, emotional support and just being good friends and enjoying each others company.

Vision101:
Love

True LOVE. you can prove this love through many ways, your friendship, care and emotional support.

AniTech:
You sef noticed the write up is full of frustrations, I think the op must have had a bad encounter with a feminist. �

Your point too has been noted. Quite childish but duly noted.

Cousin9999:
People who write material like this are usually dudes that can't get women, or dudes that are angry because the woman they're stalking finally got a restraining order. lol

Your point has been noted.

GeneralPula:
I honestly don’t understand what the dude above me is saying..

Lol, maybe you shayo before you enter here

onlyfacts:
So if MONEY is removed from the guys end and SEX is withheld from the girls end then the answer is FRIENDSHIP.

Yes its Friendship. Friendship is all that will be left, if they truly love each other.

If you as a guy can't date a lady without sex on the table and if you as a girl cant date a guy without his money coming first, then it means when those things are not available, you both will see no real VALUE in each other and will go your separate ways.

If you can't stay with her without sex then you dont LOVE her, you are ONLY LUSTING after her body and if she can date him without BILLING, you dont LOVE him, you are only USING HIM to satisfy your MATERIAL LUST.

If you can't see yourself as friends without money or sex then what are you both doing dating

Deep! I am friends with my friends not for any material gain but because I like their personality and company, that should be foremost in a relationship.

What do you think the answer is?

Romanoff:
It's for one reason, if they ask the husband, he won't give. But if you take it without informing him, most of them don't even know money was taken from them.

Makes me wonder why they just don't give their wife the money. Money that she will still go an steal from your wallet.

If you wife has a need and it's a genuine need, give her money.

You no gree give your girlfriend, you no wan give your wife.

Who you wan come give?

I'm not in support of theft in any form but give your wife money.

I know a wife who has borrowed money from almost all loan apps to the point that one loan app sent messages to all her contacts cause she couldn't meet up with payment.

Her husband is doing well, I am not aware of any house project they are doing so it makes me wonder why he doesn't give his wife money and he won't let her work.

Sadly this is the same faulty logic some sick husbands are using on their wives.

Because they feel they have MARRIED their wives and her body is his, he can sleep with her anytime he likes even WITHOUT HER PERMISSION, violating her and committing MARITAL RAPE in the process.

Yes she is your wife by marriage but even married people still need to set healthy boundaries amongst themselves. A husband cannot beat his wife because he is married to her, that is one healthy boundary- don't touch your wife, a husband cannot also rape his wife etc.

A wife too should seek her husbands permission when she wants to infringe on his boundary like taking money he has set aside, it doesnt matter his response but it is the right thing to do. Just the way a husband should seek the wives permission for sex, it doesn't matter the response she gives, she can deny him and she can welcome it but he should always seek her permission first.

Let's build healthy relationships going forward and not what we currently have now that is making marriages fail up and down. Not respecting your spouses boundaries in any issue is surely going to cause a rift in the marriage sooner or later.

Dreyton36

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rottennaija:
I am not offended. I just don't like dishonest people.

Now I think we should actually end our conversation, have a nice day.

rottennaija:
I see certain errors in your understanding of events. I am the one will be satisfied by your response, not the other way around and the satisfaction comes when I have questions bugging me answered. Example, you teach a 5 year old about plant and after your highlighting what you believe are important points, you claim satisfaction and when questions are asked to clarify certain points, you refer him or her to points you had raised before.

Now, there is a difference between being satisfied and believing or accepting your answers. I can be satisfied with your response having had my questions answered but I may not believe them. Keep those important differences in mind.

In your own case, I was never satisfied with your response (as you were evasive and bring up issues that contributed nothing to the discussion) and neither were your response enough to let me believe them.

I had some follow up questions but wouldn't be asking them. It is of no use. So, I'll say, enjoy the rest of your day. It was nice having to respond to your questions.

I didnt mean to offend you. If you are still interested in asking your question, ask but if not its okay

rottennaija:
Do you think your response was satisfactory? Do you think your response even addresses the questions I asked you?

Yes it does. I have taken out time to highlight the key points in the 5 bullet questions you asked me for your ease. If you still dont understand my answer, point out the exact one.

rottennaija:
Next time, if you feel you do not have the patience to answer someone's questions, don't put them through the stress of asking your own question.

As you may have seen, there are serious people with serious things upstairs. If you need to get the attention of serious people, you need to up your game.

I always insisted you keep it brief or concise. That doesnt make me unserious or you more serious.

rottennaija:
But you had strength to interrogate me?

He was referring to more than one person, plus my statement had humor in it.

achorladey:
Two bolded part are typed by you. One is definitely your viewpoint the other is not. Or both are your view point. Which is correct?

From your response now, I can say on your behalf you see your response and answers so far as as your beliefs obtained and backed up by the scripture. I want to believe I am correct about this.

And I stated earlier there are a lot of "the person conducting my study taught me this taught me that in your post". Are you "studying your conductors?" or are you "studying the Bible?"

So I know what to say or state whenever I see this in your post. It basically what you believe. Thanks!

Concerning 1914 and John 6:54 those are not my questions. Those asking will get in touch.

I understand. It's just a quoted answer not necessarily directed at you.

MaxInDHouse:
It's their parents that accepted the truth not them so they're seeing whatever you say as:
What my daddy and mommy have been carrying in their heads all their life, who are you to teach me what i've already known?
So instead of answering your questions gently the way JWs do these ones will like to interrogate you as if you owe them a response!

Me I don't have strength for interrogation , let them take it softly o

MaxInDHouse:
So you think they will answer your own question shey?

Come on my brother, these are arrogant humans who see themselves as above any school of thought so they will never answer your question rather they'll be asking you questions as if you're a criminal under investigation!

Well that's a pity. Really sad for them.

MaxInDHouse:
You and i have a lot in common my brother!

The same thing happened to me but unlike you i was stubborn o. Do you know i left JWs for about two decades searching for another religion that's at least a bit closer to JWs because i found it demeaning carrying bags up and down to visit people who don't know me (univited)
So it's after going through so many religious beliefs including atheism that i discovered none makes sense except JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

You are a case study on your own . 2 decades wow! Mine is less than a year

achorladey:
They arent really interested in my answers but my faith.

I laughed to the above. The discussion won't get to this were what you stated above is correct.


And my view point is what i learnt from the bible, 2 Tim 3:16,17

Jw believe 1914 was the year people going to heaven started to ascend. They call this period the last days. Of cause not all because some are still alive and haven't joined christ in heaven.

Two bolded part are typed by you. One is definitely your viewpoint the other is not. Or both are your view point. Which is correct?

And I stated earlier there are a lot of "the person conducting my study taught me this taught me that in your post". Are you "studying your conductors?" or are you "studying the Bible?".

I am humble to admit I was taught something and I will still conveniently say it when I have too.

I am not a Jw yet, so that is why sometimes i make that reference, but the sentiments behind it are mine because I have come to believe them too. That is why during my discussion with the OP I make reference to the bible and still explain concepts from the bible. I defend what I now know from the bible as true.

As for your later question I already answered it. I am majorly replying you because of the statement I made above and not the later question you ask. I will drop the answer I gave Op to you again so you can read it. Please bear in mind, if you ask me this same question after I post my response here I may fail to reply you. Thanks.



My first answer, the summary

5. That refers to people going to heaven primarily, as it follows with what I have explained above. Of cause secondarily those staying on earth will equally be resurrected but they cant eat the holy communion as I explained because they havent been chosen.


My second answer below, when he asked again seeking some clarification.

I will only address John 6:54. John 6:54 poses more problems for you than for me. I'll briefly explain.

Jw believe 1914 was the year people going to heaven started to ascend. They call this period the last days. Of cause not all because some are still alive and haven't joined christ in heaven,{ they will continue to do that until the last day of satan's world}

You dont believe in 1914, as such you believe christ started to rule in heaven immediately after his resurrection. So when does your last day start or end?

Did it start more than 2000 years ago, after the apostles died and "went to heaven" down to this time? How many centuries has since past?

Or do you believe the last day is still ahead, and so all the apostles are still dead and in the grave?

MaxInDHouse:
My brother, the book (Bible) was given to mankind for a purpose:
To help honest hearted and sincere individuals IDENTIFY Jesus' group during the endtime!

The Hebrew-Aramaic Scriptures (Old Testament) was written to help the Israelites IDENTIFY the Messiah and those following him when he arrives. That's why after Peter has proved from the Old Testament that Jesus (whom the Jews killed) was the promised Messiah and that his followers are the favoured Jews whom God is now dealing with in the first century. Honest hearted and sincere Jews were stabbed to the heart, they asked Peter and the Apostles "Men, brothers what must we do?" {Act 2:14-37} just imagine these are all Israelites sons of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Please if anyone after that event goes back home expecting God to come and show him anything else apart from the evidence at Pentecost, can we say such a Jew still knows what he is doing?

Now the Christian Greek Scriptures (New Testament) was written to help people in the endtime IDENTIFY Jesus' true disciples when Satan's agents are everywhere claiming Christians. The sign Jesus foretold will help honest hearted and sincere individuals during our time is the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit in the midst of his group.
People globally will testify to the fact that there is LOVE, JOY and PEACE permeating the gathering of just one group! Matthew 7:16-18
So Satan gets really angry each time you ask the question:
"Which Organization of imperfect humans fit in to that description today?"
That's why Apostates often try to sweep that under the carpet then continue disturbing you with questions even when you tell them you don't know much they just don't want to talk about an organized people worshiping God as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! John 17:20-23 compare to Micah 4:1-3

That bolder part is one of the key things that struck me with the Jw's. I have considers a lot of religions outside christianity including atheism and nothing makes sense.

Only the Jw makes sense.

MaxInDHouse:
They know everything you know now {Luke 11:52} but one thing that's missing in them is the TRUTH about One Lord one faith and one baptism {Ephesians 4:5} If God is one then all his worshipers must speak in agreement as one family {John 17:20-23} anything out of this fact is rebellion and that is rebellion against God's Holy Spirit not humans! Mark 3:28-29

Hmmmm. That's deep. Sadly true.

MaxInDHouse:
My brother, this is why the organization says
"avoid having anything to do with Apostates" Romans 16:17; 2John 10-11

It's certain that they're prepared for destruction, they will not enter God's Kingdom and they're battle prepared to hinder anyone on the path to life!
"Woe to you who are versed in the Law, because you took away the key of knowledge. You yourselves did not go in, and you hinder those going in!” Luke 11:52


Can you imagine that this same good for nothing Bondatt popped out from nowhere two years ago on this forum threatening to report me to the elders of my congregation for chatting with Apostates?
The useless miscreant then addressed me as 'brother' then i asked him

"if you address me as (brother) but planning to go and report me for chatting with you (an Apostate) please do you truly know what you're doing?"

Then he brought out the pictures of brothers in my congregation with whom i was doing MLM back then thinking i'm the one he saw in the WhatsApp dp. I was just laughing at the idiot then i told him that even if a member of the GB should mess with me and i give him a dirty slap both of us will sit down before a panel to explain what transpired between us. Nobody is above the law!
My brother what drove away these people from the fold is pride, they feel they can do and undo due to the privileges they had among God's people but when they're humbled they decided to turn against Jehovah thinking they're against humans since it's people they're seeing.
Their torment begins each time they find a newly interested person who is standing firm for the same organization they're against.

The secret they don't know is that Lazarus (you) are now in the bosom of father Abraham (Jehovah's organization) they're not interested in answers to their questions what they're trying to find out is how strong is your faith.
That's why father Abraham (Jehovah's organization) doesn't want Lazarus (you) to cool their thirst (torment in their hearts). Luke 16:19-26
Do you remember the rich man said he has brothers he doesn't want to come into the same condition? Luke 16:28
Well they're many in the world, you're now meeting them on faceless social media just as the rich man and his brothers remain anonymous till today. Notice that Jesus mentioned the name of the favoured servant (Lazarus) but what's the name of the rich man? What about his brothers?
That's to show you that they're always hiding in the dark to shoot their arrows into the light. No wonder even Jesus didn't know them! Matthew 7:23

I agree with you. They arent really interested in my answers but my faith.

Like they keep asking the same question I have addressed already. I dont see any need to answer a question I have clearly answered unless you want me to change my stance.

And my view point is what i learnt from the bible, 2 Tim 3:16,17.

Bondatt:
Lol. I have been reading this with smile on my face. The more you read, the clearer it becomes that needanswer is not actually looking for answers. He's seeking for validation of his held belief by hoping to win an argument.

I laugh. If you know who some of us were in the organization and what our "privileges of service" were, you won't even fancy this your show of "wit".

Rottennaija has asked you questions which you have tried to wriggle your way out of.
The questions remain

1) John 6:54 since you agree that this scripture applies to those with the heavenly hope, how come your organization teaches that the resurrection of the "anointed" started in 1914?
Notice that the Bible says . "I will resurrect him ON the last day". Jesus did not say "IN" the last day as if to suggest an extended period of time.

Please answer that.

2) According to Romans 8:14 are you led by God's Spirit or are you led by the flesh?
Please note that it is only those two options that are presented in the book of Romans. So please answer. Are you led by the spirit or flesh?

Please answer this too.

3) here comes my own questions. You say Jesus is your mediator. This is funny. The organization teaches that Jesus is not your mediator but the mediator of the 144,000 only. How do you reconcile this? BTW, if you doubt me, I will show you from your own publication

4) You claimed your Bible study "conductor" taught you that God has always have an Organization. Okay fair enough, now who or what where God's Organization in the 1100's, 1200's, 1300's, 1400's ... Before Russell had his start in the late 1800's?

Please answer this one too

5) my final question. Your organization claims to have been chosen in 1919 by Christ after inspection to be the Faithful and Discreet Slave. Please provide Biblical, Empirical, and historical proof to support this claim.

Show us in the Bible where this was foretold so that we can examine together. Then tell us the criteria for picking your organization as outlined by your organization let's and lets examine if your organization met this requirement.


We dey wait for answer.

Hello there.

Most of what you asked I have addressed, unless you like me repeating myself which from my comments here i dont. So please read my comments prior to this to find your answers there.

And not to be caught in answering too many questions I will only be answering the OP and a handful of other people I started the trend with.

Thanks again for reaching out.

rottennaija:
See the bolded. Where in my responses to you was I using ignorance of the law as an excuse?

My error. I have subsequently explained the law without the IGNORANCE PART in my previous answer.

rottennaija:
Let me clarify. Having Jesus as a mediator and being in the new covenant are different things. The hope of living in heaven in intertwined in both, but they are very different. It's moses being the mediator between God and the Israelite and then the Israelite being in the new covenant.

Then, even when I asked you question in different ways, you should have no problem answering them unless you feel to full of yourself. I had no problem answering your questions, I took my time. You should have none.

If you noticed I prefer brief answers to the point rather than lengthy ones but I appreciate the time you took to write a lengthy response.

These days it stresses me out to have to go around explaining what I have explained again, so bear with me.

Like I said, our concept of been in the new covenant is different. That concept explains how the ancient were able to be called righteous.

rottennaija:
How about the new covenant? Do you see yourself as being a part of the new covenant?

You are still asking the same question that I answered. So yes and i already explained what been in the new covenant mean.

Please try not to ask me the same question twice in another format. Rather ask me a new question in line with where you are heading.


Please dont ask me these kind of questions
Eg you ask: can you drive? I answer: Yes I can drive.

You ask again: So you mean you can move this car now?
I answer: Yes I can drive or moves this car.


Rather ask
Eg can you drive? I answer: yes I can drive.

You ask again: okay, have the car keys and drive this car.
I answer: okay let me drive you.


The two are different. Although the objective are the same. Dont ask me the same question in another format.

rottennaija:
In my experience, it's people that are impatient or lack what to say that throws this line. It took my time to explain myself over and over. The first question I asked, you demonstrated you had no idea of it by talking something else. I had to explain them again.

While your experience may be relevant, it maybe in error to believe it will always serve you well.

I have told you my condition for going further, let me not say too much.