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[Quote]The bottom line is Chinese in Africa are not putting indigenous people out of work in Africa.[/quote]They don't need to! The Chinese expatriates did not wake up one morning and decided to emigrate to Africa. Africans emigrate, not Chinese! So why are they here in large population?

They were brought in by virtue of trade treaties. The treaty guarantees that they - the Chinese- will be at the decision making nodes of the operational heirarchy. When you attach such conditions to the treaty then you put indigenes at subservient level of the feed. So if you have an infrastructure project that recruits 1000 people and the top 250 are foreigners, then that's 250 indigenes that are without job. So the presence of the Chinese in our indigenous labor market creates competition and when they are making the hiring and firing decisions, you know well enough they are not going to fire their own people for our black ass, they are Chinese, not blacks! Blacks will fire one another -on their own land- for a foreigner sake.

[Quote] No where on the video is this explained or shown it is all Propaganda with a fictitious Title.[/quote]Knowledge is composed of three dynamics,

1. The letter or literal - that which is seen, visible or materially substantiated.

2. The spirit of knowledge, also called "enlightenement". That which presents itself as a self-evident truth and supported credibly by other self-evident truths.

3. Then there is knowledge as wisdom. That which is inspired truth or spoken out of experienced truth.

Your response is at the literal level of things, you are waiting to see. The evidence is hidden from you to blur your knowledge.

Only the wise and the enlightened know. Advance your knowledge.

If all it takes for you to believe anything is evidence, then guess what, foreigners will come in and steal from you, all the while hiding the evidence from you.

I Did! Nigerian politics is chaotic because it was founded - by design - on chaos!

The "we" you alluded to are the differing stake holders, each with an agenda out of alignment from the center. The chaos cannot be possible without their passionate interest and dis-interests to regain and re-own "endowments" signed off, either under threat of gunfire or sheer deceit of trust, by their fore-fathers to the invaders of the land.


The electorate is a default participant, or a non-participant for that matter, in a country where more than half of its independent years were under martial rulers called "The Supreme Military Council".

The proper attributes for remedying the subject matter of this topic would be a transformation for self-sufficiency, in deeds, not just in words.

As already outlined elsewhere in the thread, Africa is endowingly self-sufficient. To actualize and align with its prosperity, the children of Africa need two things,

1. Discipline within
2. Temporarily Wall-off the outside world and repair the chaotic churn.

It's far more qualitative to obtain your definite clarification than to assume and dead end into wrong conclusions.

So define your "we". You also use the word "rights" elsewhere. That's a heavy word to use in context of African politics.

Amhatu,

I'm interested in this topic and I'm coming in now because you have used some keywords in your statement to provoke my thoughts.

In the last sentence of last response you said "we". Who is this "we"? What sector of society are you referencing here? Are you referring to the electorate?

Amnesty and Human Rights are mouthpiece for political ideologies and their goal is to market and install the Western cultural ideas and lifestyles as the "normal" for all of mankind everywhere.

I am surprised they have not made the act of "disvirginity" -where there is visible blood from the forced penetration- an act of human rights violation. I guess they are waiting on the "womens lib" in America to declare it and then thereafter, any guy that disvirgins a girl would be in violation of human rights.


@ topic,
I once saw a documentary telling about a widespread social problem in India. A man marries a woman and soon after if he finds her unpleasant, he will douse her with falammable fluid and set her on fire. The intent is to kill her. If she survives, he follows up with a divorce from her and send her back to her parents, disfigured for life! Charges were brought but the men were never prosecuted. So it became pervasive and a common practice.


Mankind is innately capable of learning; "associative learning"! If its not painful we are likely to repeat the act. if its painful, we are, <Fill in the blank>


This guy should be blinded!!!

If amnesty and human rights feels stongly about justice and saving the world, let them start in American jails and prisons, its plenty political prisoners locked up for crimes they knew nothing about.


If rapists would be bent over and subjected to same indignified and tortourous pain their victims suffered, there wouldn't be repeat offenders and the number of first time ofFenders will likewise be very small.


He blinded her, she should blind him. Period!

@topic,

In conflict resolution, The President's brand is "idealism". We have seen him exhibited this trait time after time. So this does not come as a surprise. Just as it was out-of-element for President Bush to yield for peaceful outcomes, it is out-of-nature for President Obama to confront harshly.
Now, ethical and moral conscience demands that losses can be graciously endured as a sacrifice for the progress and unity of mankind. An altruistic positioning!

On the other hand, mundane reality teaches us by way of experience and history that any concession made, faithfully in trust, or as a negotiated outlet for survival, must be done so with prudence and forbearance.

In view of developments, current and projected, in the Middle East, what guarantees of securities do the Jews have, not just from the Arabs, but from Europeans as well - who twice in history has targeted them for extinction- ?

Who is this "pleep"?

Wise contribution, impressive!!

Kudo's!!

Thank you Morpheus.

^ you see why I roped him into the debate

I was hoodwinked!! Bamboozled!! Oh Dear JeSoul. . .what a naughty fisherwoman thou art! lol. I drool for your bait and I will not stop biting on it.

We shall continue this debate - the "imperatives of a sustainable future for Africans" - some other day.

And while diversity is always a huge plus, we cannot let ourselves be jaded into thinking that just because we throw some dark chocolate into the cream, it will suddenly taste better. Yes diversity is the soil on which a better, culturally rich nation can be grown, but it must not be 'forced' or imposed, but rather be the natural overflow of the black community rising up to the challenge and challenging ourselves to be and do better - rather than continuing to blame the 'white man' for 'oppressing' us.

Look, I love what you say here and the way you positioned it. love it!!!

On the blame game. . . .we are guilty as the rest of racial types in other terms. Here are few examples:

1. Reports that attribute health diseases by black racial types are just that. . . RACIST! Unless in the same report, attributes are also given for known health syndromes and diseases prevalent among other racial types.

2. When the issue of reparations was brought up some years back, AAs were talking of about $2B in compensation. White America shut down the idea on the grounds that first, the oppressors were dead and the living souls that will be taxed for the payment are by most accounts fresh and recent immigrants of 1st, 2nd, 3rd but no more than 4th generation citizens. But they forgot that the heritage of the economy and social securities they enjoy are legacies of slavery, so how can you qualify for the privilege but disqualify for the payment?

Since then, America has spent over 5billion in warfare in Iraq alone. So where is the justification beside the fact the beneficiary of that huge money is Black?

And who speaks for the Chinese americans? Mexican Americans? Italian Americans? Armenian Americans? Indian Americans? African americans make up ~13% of the US population. Surely we cannot expect equal representation in all facets of the government - especially when AA's hardly participate or show interest in politics or community affairs. Rather you see too many of the youth tuning in to 106 & Park.

Each of those other ethnic groups have political representation - PAC - that act as the sentry into the communities, they monitor and control social, economic, cultural, academic and informational access into and out-of their respective communities. So that when something derogatory happens in a majority Asian community the news feed is first reviewed and approved for dissemination. Their arts and history is positioned positively by Hollywood. Mob movies like Godfather and Scarface . . . and now Gotti. . . ., where brute force and bloodshed is the mark of honor are promoted as a cultural pride. However, Bloods and Crips, the black equivalent, is derogated.

The militancy you see in Farrakhan is justified. If he was laidback and timid as most of these so called Black Church leaders are then Nation of Islam will end up same way SNC, Black Panther and SLCC have ended up. If you notice, NoI is treated differently than the rest of Black community social groups. . . .they are reputed to have discipline, organization and creed as well as a very tight and orderly hierarchy and so the Govt has learnt not to jerk them around like they do the mega Churches and all.

You can regard Nation of Islam as a model of a desired Black PAC, if there were to be one. . . and Farrakhan as the archetype of a Black voice. He may not be desirable but at least he represents what we need and should have for us.

In defense of Farrakhan's position on foreign and domestic policy, read the following Statement of Foreign Policy proposed on June 3rd 1997 and then implemented by the Bush Administration in Iraq in March 2003.

American foreign and defense policy is adrift. Conservatives have criticized the incoherent policies of the Clinton Administration. They have also resisted isolationist impulses from within their own ranks. But conservatives have not confidently advanced a strategic vision of America's role in the world. They have not set forth guiding principles for American foreign policy. They have allowed differences over tactics to obscure potential agreement on strategic objectives. And they have not fought for a defense budget that would maintain American security and advance American interests in the new century.

We aim to change this. We aim to make the case and rally support for American global leadership.


As the 20th century draws to a close, the United States stands as the world's preeminent power. Having led the West to victory in the Cold War, America faces an opportunity and a challenge: Does the United States have the vision to build upon the achievements of past decades? Does the United States have the resolve to shape a new century favorable to American principles and interests?


We are in danger of squandering the opportunity and failing the challenge. We are living off the capital -- both the military investments and the foreign policy achievements -- built up by past administrations. Cuts in foreign affairs and defense spending, inattention to the tools of statecraft, and inconstant leadership are making it increasingly difficult to sustain American influence around the world. And the promise of short-term commercial benefits threatens to override strategic considerations. As a consequence, we are jeopardizing the nation's ability to meet present threats and to deal with potentially greater challenges that lie ahead.

We seem to have forgotten the essential elements of the Reagan Administration's success: a military that is strong and ready to meet both present and future challenges; a foreign policy that boldly and purposefully promotes American principles abroad; and national leadership that accepts the United States' global responsibilities.


Of course, the United States must be prudent in how it exercises its power. But we cannot safely avoid the responsibilities of global leadership or the costs that are associated with its exercise. America has a vital role in maintaining peace and security in Europe, Asia, and the Middle East. If we shirk our responsibilities, we invite challenges to our fundamental interests. The history of the 20th century should have taught us that it is important to shape circumstances before crises emerge, and to meet threats before they become dire. The history of this century should have taught us to embrace the cause of American leadership.

Our aim is to remind Americans of these lessons and to draw their consequences for today. Here are four consequences:

• we need to increase defense spending significantly if we are to carry out our global
responsibilities today and modernize our armed forces for the future;


• we need to strengthen our ties to democratic allies and to challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values;


• we need to promote the cause of political and economic freedom abroad;


• we need to accept responsibility for America's unique role in preserving and extending an international order friendly to our security, our prosperity, and our principles.

Such a Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity may not be fashionable today. But it is necessary if the United States is to build on the successes of this past century and to ensure our security and our greatness in the next.

This proposal was authored by the following civil servants:

Elliott Abrams; Gary Bauer; William J. Bennett; Jeb Bush; D. Cheney; Eliot A. Cohen; Midge Decter; Paula Dobriansky; Steve Forbes; Aaron Friedberg; Francis Fukuyama; Frank Gafney; Fred C. Ikle; Donald Kagan; Zalmay Khalilzad; I. Lewis ; Norman Podhoretz; Dan Quayle, Peter W. Rodman; Stephen P. Rosen; Henry S. Rowen; Donald Rumsfeld; Vin Weber; George Weigel; Paul Wolfowitz.

On the surface these ipeople, collectively,  are no more than honorable public officials and private businessmen . . . .social leaders and accomplished citizens.  When you scrutinize their individual closely a pattern begin to form.

Who speaks for the Africans?
  In absense of a voice. . . Farrakhan has filled the void.  When a more respecting and influential voice come up I am sure Farrakhan will step aside.  Until then, he has a sweet voice on the issue.

Weren't you supposed to hop on I-95 and drive east a while back?

How did I miss that? Yes, this Spring. I was initially scheduled for Fall but then I pushed it forward to Spring. Get with me in email. Neegronations@gmail.com