frosbel:

Salvation coming through a Jewish man does not mean that God is a Jewish God, that will be insane. How can we put God in a box and restrict him to a single race ?

shdemidemi:

I appreciate your logical thinking, but we really have no basis for discussion as we don't believe the same things. We don't need to engage in talk that will eventually be a waste of time.

shdemidemi:

Bro, answer the question, I believe its clear enough.

Did the bible God fight for Israel against every other nation in the Old Testament, yes of no?

frosbel:

But I do not believe he is the Jewish God, I believe he used some Jewish people and also other gentiles to preach the gospel. Besides if it sounds right and impacts humanity as a whole in a positive way then it must be God.

The problem with our people who I believe worshipped the true God as Chineke or Chukwu etc is that we have in many cases no written tradition of recording messages, prophecies etc.

frosbel:

I believe in God no doubt , but do not believe he is exclusive to the Jews, I think that's the point I am getting at

In other words, God is the God of ALL !!

PAGAN9JA: OP return to the faith of your ancestors.

It is the only faith that claims Universality of the Higher Spiritual Powers.


Our Ancestors were Wise.

frosbel:


Quoting Jews or God you mean ?

Quoting what God said through JEWS and upholding that as the standard for Divine Revelation

Why don't you quote what God said through your African ancestors. Were there no prophets in Africa whom God spoke through?

Better still, give us more quotations of what God said through other races.

shdemidemi:

Absolutely!

I believe it too much sir

frosbel: I am really beginning to worry that a lot of the hog wash I was fed as a so called believer is actually starting to unfold into a horror movie of myth and fable.

For example, Christians believe they worship the one true God but so do Muslims, Jews and almost all religions. The problem is this : How can the creator of mankind be limited to a particular religion, race , time or location ?

I personally think God is ONE but he is for ALL , he is not a Christian God he is the Peoples God, he is not a Muslims God he is the people's God, he is not the Jewish God he is the peoples God. God is absolutely no respecter of persons and many so called Christians will be shell shocked on the last day when he says the dreaded words " depart from me you workers of evil ". They erroneously think that they own God and therefore can live as they like and all will be just fine. What nonsense.

Furthermore , the Christian boasts in his God but has also killed in the name of his God, in fact the Muslim is still killing in the name of his God and worst yet the Jews think they own God 100% and say to themselves 'why don't we just blow the whole middle east into smithereens and take the land of our fathers back' etc....

I have news for you religious people :

YOU DO NOT OWN GOD, GOD IS FOR ALL not for a FEW People who belong to a cult, sect or religious affilication.

Lets see the qualificatrions for being a Gods favourie :

"My hands have made both heaven and earth; they and everything in them are mine. I, the LORD, have spoken! "I will bless those who have humble and contrite hearts, who tremble at my word" - Isaiah 66:2

"Opening his mouth, Peter said: "I most certainly understand now that God is not one to show partiality, 35but in every nation the man who fears Him and does what is right is welcome to Him.…" - Acts 10:34

God is LOVE !!

shdemidemi:

Logically speaking, you make a lot of sense but we are not talking logic here. The simple fact that we are talking about divinity and inexplicable creatures and creation shows we aren't talking mere 1+1=2.

An ifa priest holds is ifa to heart does not make the ifa the true way. There are various mooted holes in all of their stories that shows it cannot be the true God. The bible account tells you what will happen even 2000 years before it does happen, and everything will play itself as it was said. God said if you seek me well enough, you will find me.

Thank God you know there is God, search around, study to understand what other gods are saying, juxtapose it with whatever you learn. I am more than sure you will know the true God who created heaven and earth.

shdemidemi:

Peace be to her.... That isn't the end of her life, she might soon realise the truth.

All I am trying to project is the cutting edge in this faith.... All other religion demand you to work to be saved, only Christianity offer repentance or work as as a result of God's goodness.

I am not being good today to make heaven, I am good because I realise a good God saved me the way I am- bad, rotten, disgusting, wicked, greedy, selfish..

shdemidemi: I don't think I chose christianity cos i was born into a christian family..... if anything, being from a christian family was one thing i hated the most, growing up. Although, I won't deny the influence my family had on me which raised the quest and hunger to know what the fuss was all about.

I was a true renegade until I had personal encounters that needed something more than what my physical strength or know how could solve. I decided to visit all sorts of churches as long as they had church written on their walls. My initial intention was how to solve my personal problems, but I became more hungry for God as times went by than the solution to my problems.

After checking a few churches, i got to a place where God was taught like He should be taught. I realised the edge christianity has over any other religion that is around, be it judaism, Islam etc.

Christianity painted me as who i really am- wicked and evil and how I can never meet the perfect standard of God. It explains how God Himself had to redeem me from death and condemnation by paying a price that demanded Him to be beaten, spat on, rejected, disgraced and killed by those He created.

I do not see a place for rancor or wars in christianity cos it humbles me so much that I would love to adhere to any law of this God that did so much for my soul.

shdemidemi: ^^ thanks for the response bro

What I gathered from the above is someone wanting to see or hear God before believing He is the true God[/b]... Am I right with this?

shdemidemi:

If I may ask, what other God do you subscribe to at the moment since the Jewish God don't seem to cut it for you?

frosbel:

The church does not go to church.

I fellowship with a few people from time to time.

I use my money to meet the real needs of people around me, this is the whole essence of giving.

I do not give money to crooks and charlatans to further their enterprise or franchise businesses.

DrummaBoy:

I accept that bereaved aspect; is the fraudulent practice of tithing not as bad as murder?

As long as you are on this thread, I have time for you. And pls don't throw in that "last word" of yours. It won't work this time. I want you to give this the best you've got. Hopefully by the time we are done, you would learn not to dabble into things you should not.

Let's go there...

alexleo:

Easy bro

veecovee: God said if you tithe, he 'll open the windows of heaven and pour you the type of blessings that would over flow your store

veecovee: sorry i m a business and instead of paying less than 1/10, i prefare paying more. My dear, the blessings that follows me now is unusual. I used to struggle for conection those days but now they come on their own.

join tithers, dont mind what pastors are doing with the money, God will judge them all. God only looks at your obedient heart

veecovee: first of all i m not a pastor, im only a brother like you. Hope u went to church yeaterday... pls tell us how much u gave as offering yesterday, thats going to expand the church of Jesus Christ just the way banks are expanding today.

Look if u are not with us then u are against us, You have no problem the way banks charge u but when it comes to churches that care for your spiritual needs... you want it free.

Tithe is a command which was given in old testament just like 10 commandment was given in old testament or dont you obey 10 commandments?

I very busy here but my last word to you is that many are in hell for disobeying tithe

God bless you

See this mugu.

Na only you waka come?

You sound like a hustling pastor.

Abeg go siddon.

cheguevera: GO BLEACH YOUR SKIN. YOU UGLY ASS NIGGA. BITCH ASS NIGGA CLAIMING WHITE . WHITEY HATES YOUR ASS . MONKEY

cheguevera: Shut the Bleep up you idiot