yuzedo: Jokes aside, this cherubic lass is uraguably Nollywood's FINEST specimen!

That is a face any man would gladly wake up to daily.

Marriage/husband shouldn't be a validation of a woman's worth. If spinsterhood works for Ms. Rita, then so be it. That is my loss.

Signed: Chief Sweetus Foundation, member of Billionaires Ogling Omalichalistic Babylistic Sweetified Ikpus Everywhere (B.0.0.B.S.I.E)

onome710: *Walks into Thread*
*Takes a seat*
*Says a silent prayer*
*Reading comments*

I no dey put mouth for matter like this.
God uses the foolish things to confound the wise.
The foolishness of God is wiser than men!

#ThatsAll

ifeness: Humanity can begin to move forward once we get rid of religion. We need good roads,contant electricity,employment in Nigeria,not God.

Olusanya333: Pray that u attain such a Spiritual glory nd stop deceiving urself. Don't just hold d form of Religion nd deny the Power of it. Our weapon is nt carnal but strong and mighty in pulling down the Stronghold of d enemy.

PastorAIO:

You're a 'christian'. Does it make sense to talk about redemption without talking about the Fall?

Does it make sense for a doctor to prescribe a medication without first doing a diagnosis of what went wrong?

In court, does it make sense to pass judgement without first investigated a case to it's origins?

Why is there Hatred between Israel and Arab nations? Can you explain to me why anyone should suddenly start hating another person?

shdemidemi:

I think you should read about the personalities that represent the character of the god in each religion, if we must go by logic. I believe the character and the person of Jesus Christ is a model anyone, by any standard would accept as perfect, may be to the most radical critic, near perfect.

Bidam: You are a learner here. Let's see. You may not no it or maybe you are really ignorant. There are spirits behind books like this that plagues the lives of individuals that reads them, i am telling you from the benefit of experience and testimonies of folks who were delivered from the powers and influences of such books. Most of these books teach about astral travelling and how to communicate with familiar spirits, enough said here, i don't want to derail this thread further since you like to argue unecessarily.
So blood thirsty muslims that kill in the name of allah without provocation using portions of quran are not mad according to you? I don't want to delve into these issues with you further. I was a muslim before and i know of a friend of mine who went LITERALLY MAD when he dabbled into a sura called "yasin" for diabolical purposes, like i said earlier there are religious spirits in those books, take it or leave it.

I am talking about people who go further by speaking and interacting with demonic entities after reading such books not superficial folks like you who read it for academic talks and purposes. The more you read such books, the further they influence you and your life style. Pls desist from such books. I won't bother replying your posts again. Cheers.

frosbel: My own experience :

Backslider : A former church member who has left to join another church

Holiness : Behaving in a certain way ( outwardly of course ) that depicts a saintly aura such as the clothes you wear, the way you talk, abstaining fromm certain goods etc while ignoring true real holiness of the heart.

Church : A place to go to every Sunday where you hear only ONE MAN preach their ONLY Truth and after which you pay MONEY ( Tithe )

Heretic : A Bible Scholar who questions the myths and practices of pentecostalism.


Add yours please

Bidam: When you run mad after reading those books then you will realise i am not ignorant, maybe after you are delivered from it. Hope it won't be too late by then. With Jesus it is never late anyway.

Bidam: I never hid the fact of where i came from before becoming a christian on this forum, you can check all my posts to see what i said. Maybe your christianity which you claimed you have never had a deep seated root in Christ. I do not see christianity as a religion but a lifestyle..like i said initially and still maintain ..stop delving into occultic books that are full of religious spirits..Either take that piece of advice or leave i don't care. Most folks that are far ahead of you in the spiritual have confessed that those books are dangerous and the best book is the bible.

JesusisLord85:

My brother, there is no such thing.
What is a Jew? A Jew is any man of the tribe of Judah or Benjamin. They were the only tribes that returned to Israel after the Babylonian and Assyrian captivities.
The northern tribes were scattered around. Some returned to Samaria, but Samaria was largely made up of assyrians (2 Kings 17).
So if one is not a Jew, they are a gentile.
But the gentile the Messiah refers to are indeed the lost sheep of the House of Israel (Northern Kingdom).

Matthew 15:24 "I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel"

No surprise there, this is what the prophets of old spoke of. They mentioned nothing of strangers (i.e. others other than the sons of Jacob) taking their place as the elect.

Many believe the Messiah came to save the heathen. It sounds nice, but lets stick to the truth:

Psalms 147:19-20 "He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel. He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the Lord"

Shalom

Bidam: Pls don't delve into such books, they are not good for you spiritually...I am talking from experience based on hindsight. The bible is your best option anytime anyday.God bless you.

nlMediator:

You are free to believe what you want about the virgin birth of Jesus, but you don't have to lie about why people believe that Jesus is God. It's not because they want to keep sinning by seeing freedom from sin as impossible for man. Since you started believing that Jesus is a man like you, without the seed of God, have you stopped sinning? Can you show evidence of your sinless life, because from what we see here, you're no better than anybody here on that score?

Some suggest that you contend for the faith and need help. Only the latter part is right. And the help you need cannot come from you. Because you seem so far gone you can't help yourself. The best thing anybody can do for you is to pray fervently, preferably with fasting, for you. It'll be great to see this unfortunate journey of yours end well with great testimony here. Otherwise, it won't be long before you come here denouncing Jesus and the Bible in total. If you can reject the Jesus of the Bible and call what you read in some parts of the Bible a myth, claiming it is so because other Bible authors did not mention it, you're way past dangerous territory.

frosbel: ^^^^

I liked your post purely because of your honesty and I wish ALL of us will emulate this , instead of insults and name calling.

However, the main reason why Christians in general say that Jesus had to be born without a human father is precisely for the reason of not inheriting the adamic nature which is not consistent with the fact that Mary also had this adamic nature. Now if this is the case then the foundation of this concept almost totally falls apart.

Back to the issue of seed, a human or plant can only be produced through one seed. For example if I plant two bean seeds they will produce two bean plants not one bean plant and the same is true of mankind. This poses a problem because Jesus was supposed to descend from David through this seed, but if this seed was not the seed that was planted, then that connection is broken.

The simple truth of the matter is that a lot of text in some of the gospels are ambiguous , in some cases by error and in many cases through intentional tampering. The Catholic church is behind the myth of the virgin birth, perpetual virginity of Mary, ascension of Mary and many such Myths and Fables which Paul warned us against.

You also mentioned one KEY fact which many have missed. Jesus could have sinned but he chose not to and this is why God elevated him to the highest place of glory , this is why he has been given the everlasting throne to rule over all nations in the eternal kingdom of God which will shortly manifest itself.

Thank You.

Goshen360: @ frosbel,

Let's flip to the other side of the coin to better help you in this matter.

1. The bible has many places it records calling Mary the mother of Jesus Christ. Can you show us where people called Joseph the father of Jesus Christ?

2. If people called Joseph the father of Jesus, can you show us where Christ testified to such, accepting Joseph as his father?

ayoku777: He prayed to His Father and He encouraged us to also pray "Our Father, Who art in Heaven". And even in Heaven now, He's interceeding for us before the Father. But do you think the Father would be all worked up as you are now if I say "Help me Lord Jesus"? Please this is the last question I'm answering relating to this digressing matter unrelated to topic.

ayoku777: Nawa o! Like there is a competition between Christ and His Father about who should answer prayers. Well I felt Christ didn't emphasize who coz it was not an emphasis. Pray to the Father its equally scriptural. Let's not digress ok

Apatheist:
Why you dey disgrace am Na?
you dey spoil church business for am.
Diaris godu o

ayoku777:

John 14v14: (Jesus Christ talking here)

"If ye shall ask anything in my name, I will do"

So scripturally-speaking, you can pray to Christ in His name.

But let's not derail the thread.

ayoku777:

Frosbel

So you believe God's word created the heavens and the earth; you believe He parted the red sea for Moses and stayed the sun for Joshua. You believe He walked on water and multiplied bread and fish and rose from the dead. But you're finding it hard to rationalize that His word can make a woman produce both the seed and the egg (X and Y chromosomes) needed to bring forth the Messiah.

His same powerful, supernatural, nature-suspending and biology-altering WORD that did all the other amazing miracles in the bible (that you believe -i hope) is what made it possible for Mary to produce the X and Y chromosomes.

Frosbel, frosbel, frosbel, how many times did I call thee? You're going through what Paul called "The good fight of faith" -The fight to keep your faith in 1Timothy 6v12.

Its like the world and "end-time seducing spirits" are dragging your faith with you.

Let me admonish you with the words of Jude; in Jude 1v3

"Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, AND EXHORT YOU THAT YOU SHOULD EARNESTLY CONTEND FOR THE FAITH WHICH WAS ONCE DELIVERED UNTO THE SAINTS"

Christ will strenghten you in Jesus name.

torchwave: Now what is that to you? Follow Jesus, not men. That is why the Bible is given to you so that you will not be deceived.

Every man shall give account of his life. The Christian Faith is a personal race. Your pastor will not run it for you neither will your dad or mom or loved ones run for you. Everybody is on his or her own.

If the pastors have deviated from their Calling to engage in other things in order to enrich themselves, you did not send them; God will judge everything done in the flesh whether secret or known.

PastorKun:

Bros abeg ansa the OP's question, who or what called you into your current 'office'?

torchwave: Shdemidemi, Tgirl4real and Ayoku777. You guys have said all there is to say. Wonderful contribution.

Frosbel, wish you luck with your thousand-man-march revolution. Hope it makes CNN headlines.

[s]While they are reaching out to the lost, the perishing, the sick and the hurting like Christ said we should,[/s] all you care about is pulling down churches. There is a way that seemeth right to a man.

frosbel:

"and [Saul who became Paul] asked for letters from him to the synagogues at Damascus, so that if he found any belonging to the Way, both men and women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem." (Acts 9:2).

"However, I admit that I worship the God of our ancestors as a follower of the Way, which they call a sect. I believe everything that is in accordance with the Law and that is written in the Prophets," - Acts 24:14


Christianity was never meant to be used to define followers of Jesus, in fact Paul never referred to himself as a Christian and neither did the Jewish or Gentile early believers.

They were called Christian by others , they did not use this term themselves and in fact it has been insinuated that the word Christian was used in a derogatory manner.

Christianity as a religion was founded by that PAGAN Emperor Constantine and a lot of Christendom still imbibes many of the practices he introduced and sanctioned through the apostate bishops.

frosbel:

I am a follower of the Way which is through Jesus, I am not a Christian.

TheBigUrban2: Just as there are men who come in different sizes, women come in different sizes.

There are many men who would date you despite your size of azz or titz.....say no to implants and buttt injections!!1


These angelic but flat-as-pancake women are supermodels that many men want to die for;

JesusisLord85:

God is a man sir.


Just saying.

frosbel:

Sorry Sir,I don't take advice from someone who is captive to a church that almost destroyed me.

You are indeed a victim of American pentecostal brain washing and I pity you to the extent that I hope you see the light.

The problem is your God is an American Jew and not for ALL.