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When you know how much Bet9ja company makes, you will know they are scamming the majority and helping only a few.

This is how to build a successful political empire. Empower the best, allow them to do what they know how.

Many so-called godfathers in Nigeria fail due to overbearing attitude, micro-managing and teleguiding.

Nigerians will not accept any secret results, no matter how much Atiku tries.

We will only abide by results that were publicly collated.

APGA's appendage behaviour towards PDP is holding them back.

Even when PDP were neck deep in crisis after 2015, APGA still didn't take a shot at national politics.

godliman:
which nigeria? Are you running a fever? America will demolish iran and nothing will happen. Trump is just being humane. As for nigeria I cant help laughing. Nigerian soldiers that have become grasshoppers before a rag tag boko haram, no thanks to buhari 's hidden agenda. America will use all of them for pepper soup.

Nope they can't. US war with Iran is not one on one. US will have more partners for sure. But Iran strength lies with targeting US allies in Middle East and that Russia and China will side with Iran. Also some in EU are sympathetic to Iran in view of US aggression.

Iran has not directly attack US. The drone invaded the Iran airspace.

Trump is looking for a conflict and fight that will help him get reelected.

Our able VP. Side on sir. Next locked and loaded.

If this is Nigeria, insults will flying up and down online.

Nigeria has challenges, what is important is suggesting solutions and supporting the government with efforts to make things right.

All these perpetual wailing will not move Nigeria forward.

Lying son of a dragon.

Atiku how your side? That case don fall finish.

Next level will be greater. Ride on Nigeria.

The headcount is important. Some states are inflating their figures in order to get more money from FG.

Is not a good thing?

If you can afford Solar as a complementary power source for home and office, it is very advisable.

I am sure the person who started it, knew the truth. Some Nigerians just love anarchy like mad.

Bizmagnet:
This is a country that fights corruption. Nigeria needs training from those guys.

In Nigeria touch known thieves like Patience and her supports will pounce on you and ask if it is your money that she stole?

Me too

nzeobi:
Why Was the allegation not investigated and the law enforcement agencies allowed to prosecute her

Mmmm. That would have been like adding fuel to the flame. By now FFK will be dancing naaked at the market square.

globemoney:
No sir, the judiciary does not have any such powers. Its the work of the NASS. The law is bigger than the Judiciary.

Atiku and his supporters are just being unnecessarily emotional. Imagine that guy calling for Judicial Rascality.

respect80:
In that case, would you also suggest that prof. Mahmoud's INEC should also be sanctioned for misleading both the voters and contestants about the transmission of results via electronic servers since the constitution doesn't recognize it? Also, since the electoral bill that was passed as regards this matter wasn't signed, yet INEC went ahead to claim they would transmit results via electronic servers which they obviously did, should we now assume that the whole electoral process was just professor Mahmoud doing his own bidding rather than what the constitution recognize?
Saying this is tantamount to admitting that the whole election election was useless and as such all winners emerging from that election would be null and void.
On the other hand, if you choose to say they made the statement about using electronic servers cos they thought the bill would be signed, then they will also need to be held responsible for not making it known to the voters and contestants that transmission of results via electronic means will no longer be used as they said earlier since the bill was not signed.

All in all bro, the idea of INEC not having a server won't be healthy for Buhari and APC if it is later discovered that INEC actually have a server...

If you want to probe INEC chairman's speech and how INEC spent spent the money budgeted, kindly do.

But if the question is, does the election results reflect the wishes of majority of Nigerians voters? The answer is Yes!

respect80:
If you truly meant what you just typed then I give up arguing with you because you will be a very bad lawyer if you had embark on that career line. . Are you insinuating that the headline "Atiku, PDP asking us for server that we don't have, INEC tells tribunal" was birthed from social media

With the bolded paraphrased, you obviously meant INEC replied by saying WE DON'T HAVE A SERVER WITH ELECTION RESULTS IN IT which obviously was not what INEC said.
INEC completely denied having a server at all bro and hence the rage on this matter.

When did sensational news headlines becomes a quote. Guy you are getting ridiculous.

Atiku asked for a server in transmission of election results, INEC said "we no get am".

The response is like: "do you have a bank account with N5billion in it?". And you said "I don't have a bank account with 5 billion naira in it"

Then people now come on Social media and be screaming, "he said he doesn't have bank account, what a lying son of a dragon".

melodyogonna:
I wonder why a solution have not been found for the past fifty years. My friend, it is much easier to move forward separately. Another alternative might be to restructure the country to work like UK.

There is nothing that stops Abia, Imo and others developing. The problem is the same greed, mismanagement and selfishness among our leaders. Even if you divide Nigeria, it still won't stop greedy people. So if you are interested in development, elect the right people to power. Simply.

respect80:
Firstly, I would encourage you to focus more on comprehensive reading rather just for argument purpose because if you truly understood my position, there won't be need for you to type the first bolded line. With that said, I will only agree with you that the electoral laws are straightforward but not "very" as you claim. The whole country wouldn't have been thrown into a state of confusion when Prince Abubakar Audu of Kogi State died few hours for him to be declared winner of the Kogi governorship election in 2015. No! A country with a VERY straightforward electoral laws won't be in as much confusion as we were then.
There are still things not easily thought of until it happens that are still missing in our constitution talkless of our electoral laws. So stop thinking that our electoral laws covers every possibility in all elections. Well you said Atiku is only threading a confusionist path because the election didn't favor him. Well, I will leave you to your opinion but even at that, INEC needs to come up with a much brilliant approach to clarify that rather than goofing about not having a server which they obvious did and with video tutorials of them teaching their Ad-hoc staff how to input and upload data to their servers via card readers everywhere.

The entire "INEC Server" is a drowning Atiku clinging to straws.

Had the amended electoral bill passed by Saraki been signed by the President, the Atiku's legal argument will be viable. But it wasn't.

Our current electoral law does not accommodate or have consideration for electronically transmitted results.

Once you understand, accept and get pass that, you will not be making the moral, emotional and academic arguments.

Next level locked and loaded. God bless Nigeria!

Another traumatised wailer spotted.

respect80:
You just nailed yourself with this comment.
If you accuse me of the crime and I deny I didn't even have a bank account at all, and it was later found out that I actually have a bank account, myself as a person would become a questionable character from that point which leaves room for more scrutiny of my previous claims.
The law is not as rigid as you think. When certain situations arise and such is not enshrined in the constitution, the onus rests on the judges to give verdict based on their agreed moral position on such.
For instance,
In the outside world, if you were accused of raping an underage child while staying in the same room with her between 6pm to 7pm and you deny being in the room with the child between 6pm and 7pm, but it was later discovered that you were actually with the child between 6pm and 7pm, I hope the angry mob will listen to anything else from you again before nailing you to the cross.

You are making an emotional argument like Atiku.

INEC response is like: I ask "do you have a bank account with N5billion in it?". And you said "I don't have a bank account with 5 billion naira in it"

Then people now come on Social media and be screaming, "he said he doesn't have bank account, what a lying son of a dragon".

respect80:
You claim to be an IT person yet you said the bolded. Does the card reader (computer) have to be aware of every activity going on before it can be used to validate a judgment?
Obviously NO! And that is the reason why it has interfaces for the operator (presiding officer) to input such necessary data you claim it's ignorant of.
Perhaps you also need the card reader to be aware that the APO 2 drank a Can of Maltina while the election was ongoing. Lol

One thing I understand is that most people give a flippant attention to crime especially when the consequences seems not to affect them in the short run without thinking of the long term effect of such.

Note: the problem is not whether Atiku comes victorious or if Buhari does, but the sanctity of our laws and soundness of our democracy is what we should worry about.
You might be supporting Buhari in this because you think he's a better candidate than Atiku but if such occurrences are allowed to thrive without being thwarted, it will give room for more of it. i.e a time would come when the deprived candidate would seem more to be the better one and by then, most of the people supporting such act today would be the ones playing the victims card.

How is it that you and Atiku want to force on us a result that was secret collated by him and a handful of folks are in know?

The electoral law is very straightforward on election procedures, Atiku is just being a confusionist. In order to discredit the election since it didn't favour him.

MetaPhysical:
Lets separate partisan politics from civic responsibility and need for accountability.

What happened in Kebbi?
Did the Governor sack an Acting CJ because of her complaint against discrimination?

I don't care if Nnamdi Kanu is the one seeking accountability, it is the rigjt thing to do.

Here is the story, it was posted here on nairaland as well:

- The governor submitted her name twice to the House of Assembly they rejected her due to alleged falsification of age (thanks for the correction). She was in Acting capacity.

- She had a press conference that the reason why the house rejected her was because she is a Christian.

- Unable to get confirmation from the House, the Governor appointed someone else as CJ.

FFK disgracing himself again, how did sleeping with people's wives enter being ignored if he is not thinking about it?

One of the things Buhari has done perfectly is ignoring him permanently.

Afamed:
https://www.facebook.com/100012374645375/posts/692530927836056/

Read from the link if INEC truly has server or not

You guys love sensation.

Atiku is Not asking if INEC has any server? Atiku is asking for a specific server "one used for electronic transmission of election results".

INEC said "we don't have a server used for transmission of results".

What is too much understand?

It is like "do you have a bank account with N5billion in it?". And you said "I don't have a bank account with 5 billion naira in it"

Then people now come on Social media and be screaming, "he said he doesn't have bank account, what a liar".

melodyogonna:
Have you ever considered that destroying and bunkering it to dust might be the only way we can move forward collectively as a people? look at European countries for example.

Worldwide, nations must do what they need to protect their national security. It is naive to expect Nigeria to do otherwise.

Moreover, it is a lot easier finding solutions to Nigeria's challenges than division. So anyone promoting division over harmony and peaceful coexistence is simply an anarchist.

modik:
How wonderful would it have been, if what you just stated up there is the exact words of learned INEC legal team at the honorable tribunal during their presentation!

Atiku filed a case for this specifically in the Court of Appeal. In May, the court ruled in favour of INEC.

Since there is nothing else for Atiku, he is bring up the same request at the Tribunal. And his Counsel is making an emotional plea to the tribunal. That was why INEC presented a copy of the last month ruling and told the Tribunal that Atiku is requesting a server they don't have.

Let Atiku provide the said server.