kettle84:
The Onne port is not designed so well like the federal government did that of Lagos to receive all ships.Not all ships can dock at Onne ,the federal government over the years because of unreasonable and wicked and selfish political reasons made it so.If not why would a sane person import via Lagos other than his backyard.

That is why the outcry for self determination is loader than ever in recent times and those benefiting from this cheating political arrangements are happy and mentioning all manner of vises as reasons for the imbalance .it remains clear that nothing lasts forever.

As far back as 2014: http://thenationonlineng.net/lagos-onne-ports-host-big-vessels/


As you can see, the port can receive big vessel, trying googling more on Nigeria ports.

The question is, why are people not using it as much as the Lagos port?

kettykin:


If someone left my property intact in his home with the rentals in tact but comes to my own home to destroy my property in my home and another person seizes my property in his home but doesn't touch my property in my home. Personally I will be more afraid of the sinister objectives of the guy that destroys every thing I have in my home but leaves my property intact in his home.

Frankly speaking only yorubas claim that they are accommodating, a lot of people will not be in lagos if not for the obscured federalism that is practiced in nigeria where all the oil companies headquarters will be relocated to a place that has no oil by decree and other states that have mobile citizenry are denied international Airports.

Please educate us, how are we destroying your property at your home. How many Yorubas are in the SE to start with, what is the ratio of Yorubas in the SE compared to the igbos in the SW? A reasonable estimate will be for every Yoruba that losses his way to the SE, there are 10,000 EQUIVALENT igbos that found their way to the SW. what is the ratio of mass transit buses such as izuchukwu, young shall grow, ekenedilichukwu,peace mass transit to mention a few, dropping off igbos day in day out in the SW compared to very few Yorubas that wander to the SE? So who is really doing the destroying of the other persons land/property? The answer to these question will put things in better perspective for you.

Secondly, i have been to Onne port in PH and lived on Intels Camp. For a fact, the ports in Rivers are closer to the SE than the SW, why are igbo importers not using these ports? Also, on Oil companies, astute business men always put their money and capital where they feel safe and they know their investment is safe. Do you know how much funds we budget to ensure safety in the Lagos-Ogun axis every year. Do you see Yorubas turn to militants and kidnappers of foreigners? No. The answer is a capital NO. because we understand the importance of having a friendly investment environment that people from all race and tribe will feel safe investing their capital without fear. Most of these oil firms relocated back to Lagos in the last decade due to the rampant kidnapping and killing of expatriates in the SS and SE. Why the Bleep do you think dangote is investing billions in a refinery in Lagos? its is called investment friendly environment. No militants, no OPC, no disturbances, no kidnappers etc.

Even your rich tribesmen feel safer in the SW than the SE. this is a fact and its undisputed

Chiefobdk1:



Painment

cant help it can you you just have to bring your stupidity to the nice thread

Habakus:

Alright,bad people with all those vices you mentioned exist everywhere,but specifically,hatred,envy and jealousy for other people from other tribes because of their successes in their chosen fields are more common in some particular regions,and that is a fact.
About the instance you gave concerning where you live,you can't solely attribute it to your being from a different tribe from the tailor. It could just be normal unnecessary pomposity that people have for others everywhere in the country.
Yeah,I know there wasn't much recorded cases of abandoned property in the SW post civil war unlike in some other places,and for that I do hail the SW people.
Anyway,I understand your points and I'm sure you understood mine in relation with the topic of this thread.

I totally understand your point and i disagree, did you take a statistical sample to arrive at your conclusion. If i go to war with a person and came back to his land to meet my belongings intact how can i turn back and say that person is jealous of me, does that make sense to you? Success in their chosen field, i will ask you a question, what success is peculiar to any group of people in the world. There are successful people in every tribe and race just ad there are hateful and spiteful people in every tribe and race.

i am a success in my field, why will hate someone else because they are also successful. In Nigeria, what do the Yoruba tribe lack that they will hate another set of people because of their success. we should learn to stop using sweeping statements.



I know a Yoruba Landlord that reduced rent because of recession and i have heard some went on to increase rent claiming things are more expensive like they gonna buy cement to build the house over again.

we should stop calling people names or tag an entire group something they are not because of a few bad eggs. The Op landlord could just be as bad to any other person whether yoruba, igbo or hausa. A bad person is a bad person period.

Chiefobdk1:


My only brother have a yoruba who depend on him. . I ve a yoruba tenant. . Here in Nnewi

The electrician near my office is Yoruba his apprentice is yoruba

All the agbo sellers are yoruba. Why didn't thw first person who started it not teach Igbo young girls instead of travelling all d way back to bring girls... Una dey see the afonja bigotry wey we dey tell una

This is 2017, PLEASE DONT COPY ME IN DUMB COMMENTS

at OP, thank God you have relocated. please you can help advise more igbo people to relocate back home.

thanks.

when people realise they can flourish anywhere, the Lagos rush will end.

Revelation1:
Op I believe your story abt the criminals from Osun state, most Yoruba from Osun are trained and hardened criminals.

Excuse me, I AM FROM OSUN STATE and i am yet to meet a criminal from Osun state. The worst thing that has happened to me is when two igbo armed robbers robbed me of my car at gun point driving home from work.

you need to cure yourself of tribalism

Habakus:

You're still missing the point here.
The thread is not talking about discrimination in employment which is quite national problem.
When you come to a region not yours,you legitimately rent a shop,start up a business and when you start doing well,you'll see the indigenes start "winching" you and clamoring that you leave their place - that is what I'm talking about. That is pure hatred and envy,especially when they know that you're from a particular tribe.
That is what I tell you you hardly find in the east. in the east,it's live and let live. Can you compete with the people there in your business choice? If yes,then you're very welcome.

I totally understand your point but you are the one not ready to accept haters, wicked people, tribal bigots exist in all tribes, places and office.


Let me share something happening to me right now. I live in a house with standard flats and BQs. my neighbor who is igbo rented his BQ to a young guy who is a tailor. what if i tell you this tailor guy has never greeted me in the over one year he moved into the house. i have caught him several times looking at me with that " who does he think he is" kind of look. Maybe because i am single and living in a flat alone he is jealous or just pure envy. I have come home several times that this guy will be standing beside the gate and instead of him to open the gate for me, he acts like he is too blind to see my car. will it be ok if i say igbo people are jealous and envious people because the guy is igbo?

Now lets go back to the period after 1970, AFTER THE CIVIL WAR. Do you realize there was no case of abandoned property in the SW. igbos came back to Ibadan, Lagos etc to meet their property and even got their rent paid fully to them while in the SS igbos were not allowed to go near their property again. Google abandoned property after the civil war and show me one single case of igbo property taken over in the SW.

when people say Yoruba people are accommodating, it is not gain saying.

Habakus:

You're right,there are criminals everywhere,but this is not what this thread is all about.
It's about discrimination and hatred because you're from a particular tribe. That is something you'll hardly find in the east. A lot of people from SW and other parts of the country live and function peacefully in the east without any form of discrimination. They're not treated differently than Igbos. You don't see Igbos "winching" them or carrying placards and whining that they should leave the SE.

I don't know anything about carrying placard asking people to leave the SW. Wicked people are everywhere that is my point.

I know an igbo man that deals in merchandises who never employs any other person apart from his igboid people.

What about the hundreds of part sellers littered all over SW that don't support anyone else except the people from their villages. Ordinary sales girl or boy posiiton they will travel all the way to their village to bring someone to work for them.

I can go on and on.

my point is discrimination is not limited to any tribe, least Yoruba of all tribe. There could be exceptions but its not our way of life.

This is why i am ever careful how i group people together and what i say. Go check those businesses they hardly go far.

The first car i got was stolen by two armed robbers from the east. That is a personal experience.

The moral of the story is, there are criminals everywhere and from every tribe and they don't care whether you are igbo, yourba or hausa.

I will advise more igbo people relocate to the SE.

On behalf of the Yoruba nation and the rest of Nigerians.

We love you Rivers people and the entire south south and the south east and the north.

We love you Amaechi.

Please just deliver on these projects as planned.


Amaechi God bless you.

Let rivers people dash us Ameshi and they can take freeze.

bigerboy200:

Thanks I now get. But that would be a tough decision to make? What do u think?

Its definitely a tough one to make. Now you see why the system will crash sooner than later because if all members become scared and no one is providing help. Then the system dies from within, GH exceeds PH, which is a fundamental flaw in every pyramid scheme.

so to avert this, every member must go back and provide help, this is a reset and avoid being scared.

Whatever you do, use your spare money.

or better still count your losses and leave.

9jakohai:


The only way pyramid schemes work is by bringing in more members into the pyramid.

MMM Nigeria has run out of new members .......so it is relying on the old members to stay afloat. But that can only last for a short time...before failure happens.

And look....I have seen pyramid schemes collapse around the world for twenty years...and far too many people crying and weeping. Here in Nigeria we have had things like Umana Umana/Wonder Bank...pyramid schemes that when they fell....people suffered.

So pardon me for not liking your MMM. It is another scam pyramid scheme.

I did not state anywhere that i want you to like MMM, neither am i promoting the scheme. I am just giving a balance opinion on what i understand about the scheme. Like i said early, a pyramid scheme will collapse sooner or later because of its inherent weakness. That being said, there thousands of Nigerians on the scheme, who deserve explanations regarding the scheme.

What i don't understand is the gloating on people misfortune depending how you look at, cause i know people who cash out on this scheme.

If you did not invest in the scheme, then you should be the loudest voice here cause really it is not your business. You can give your opinion and move on but calling people names doesn't cut it for me.

shallom.

bigerboy200:

So my friend who has over 500k trapped in MMM, should still provide help?? Or what is d narrative here?..

Hate to break it down to you, that is what it implies.

It is actually inevitable considering the system is a pyramid. To get liquidity back in the system all members must reinvest until the public confidence is restored.

9jakohai:






1.Before you people were not asking for PH before GH...so why now?

2.You people also said that MMM will come back by 14 jan. 4 days don pass...and we are hearing all about computer upgrade, paying some people...and now PH before GH.

The MMM machine has run out of food. It is now using its own children for fuel.....by asking for PH before they GH.

People from outside are no longer PH....so it is those inside that must PH.

Stage 1 of MMM collapse has happened. Better wake up....and get a legitimate job. Paul has run out of Peters to rob.

This phrase "you people", what the Bleep does it mean. I am trying to understand your comment.

Secondly, MMM is a pyramid system. IF IT HAS REACHED ITS PEAK, the system can have a reset using the method adopted now.

Finally you said "Better wake up....and get a legitimate job. Paul has run out of Peters to rob", what gave you the impression the person you quoted has no legitimate job?

This is actually the right decision.

you cannot all ask for help at the same time.

If everybody asking to GH move to PH the system will stabilize.

My investment banker ( the lady operating the MMM with my money) just informed me that on the GH portal, you to provide help to get help even when you have marvros you have not cash still in the system.

In other words, if you have money tied in, to get your money under the new system you must provide help first.

I think this will created the needed liquidity in the system because if everybody cliecks GH and nobody is providing help. where will the funds for the people clicking GH come from?

kapish.

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sade1994:



But plz do u think that kind of thing is good? I mean forgetting our roots coz we don't have any connection with it again?

I know an Ijesa man, a third generation Ijesa man in Lagos with 5 Houses in choice areas that doesnt know what Ilesa looks like. He has no relatives there and if he goes back, he asked who he will be going to see.

When a Yoruba person leaves, the chance he will back is very slim depending on if there is something to come to.. Yoruba people make a home where they are and hardly move back to their roots. Hence you hardly hear Yorubas insult their host.

Nwakaumu:
As usual,every yoruba has abandoned their village in ruins and now has started claiming lagos which is developed by collective efforts of Nigerians.with this attitide ur region we keep sinking to stone age.

I see comprehension is an issued here. In Lagos here, go to Oshodi you will surely find mud houses there within the market.

And is Lagos not in SW my region and Lagos last time i checked is the biggest city in West Africa.

On the other hand, i will not make a comment about your lies about the SE. Yoruba people say "eyan maji ki pa da nu iro"

Shalom

sade1994:
One problem with we Yorubas is we don't go back to our villages after we might have made it in the city. At least erecting some modern structures in place of our muddy family house for the extended family. And the main reason is because of the believe of witches and wizards with workers of iniquity being dominant in the village. Which is rather appalling and unbelievable.

Take me for example ... I've never in my life been to Oyo and ilora and I'm from there.. .closest I've been to is Ibadan. And the only property my parents have in the West is in Ibadan.
And if I ask them why don't we go home ...why don't we go to ilora and Oyo?
They'll say it seems you don't want to be successful in life or u want we your parents to die before our time..

It's sad mehn
Really sad

It is deeper than that and its multifaceted.

The village is apparently abandoned and the sons and daughter have all moved to other places.

You don't go back to a place where you have no connections anymore.

In Kaduna, i met families with houses in Northern Kadauna without a bungalow in the SW. Once there is no connection back home that is it. Here in Lagos a matron working in London, because her family have all relocated to the UK, came back to sell all they own in Lagos and now she has left. How will that person ever come back home.

Nwakaumu:
I'm from Imo state S.east and I'm telling you adult that there is no mud house in my state capital,Owerri.even in my village mud house was totally phased out in the late 80's because nobody could stand the shame of living in mud house in the 21 century. igbos are proud people,no rich man in igbo land wouid endure the shame of having a mud house stand next to his mansion,rather he wuld pull it down and replace it with a decent house for the owner.leave your oshogbo cave and come down east and you will testify for urself.

Lol...... well i am in the city with the fifth biggest economy in Africa and there are still mud houses here. By the way, i will be very proud if i was from Oshogbo or any other place.

I am happy for you the condition of your village. i have been told it is paradise .

Nwakaumu:
Not only in osun and oyo,but the entire south west is just like deserted ancient enclave.the first time I left onisha for lagos I observed that western states are so backward.imagine finding a mud house in the state capital of oshogbo.but they prefer to make themselves feel happy with the propaganda that things are okay with them.

What is this one saying.... too many kids on NL.

I am in Agbara in Lagos now and there are villages here with Mud house.

Before Onne camp in Rivers the whole village on the trip from the Airport are all mud houses.

WTF is this one saying

I served in Kanke in Plateau...

Similar situation.

This person needs to travel more to understand there are worse cases than this all over Nigeria.

A village of less that 50 PEOPLE.

talktonase:
I earnestly condemned it initially but after my sister made 500k from it in 60days.i had a rethink and I am about to invest some very substantial amount to help save for my business since the banks cant help me out...

There are levels to risk taking and this is a free financial advise. Create a portfolio of sources you intend to fund your business. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Leave room for the 1 percent extreme of everything going burst.