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Midastouch1: All these postulations on a faceless medium??

Me sef I am from Anambra- a decendant of Ojukwu!

Please Nigerians can you tell me what they teach children at school these days? This is embarrassing!

But most of them are people I know very well outside nairaland.

To sum up the post. Igbodo monarchs do not marry outside their dormain. So if any IGBODO monarch marries from Edo, Ogun, Nasarawa etc, the same principle will still apply.
The OP wants to make it Igbo vs Ika thread. But he has failed once again.

berem: unfortunately,I am yet to come across any Ikah person saying he is Igbo.
I wanna ask you, are Itsekiris classified as Yoruba ethnic group

Ogbuefi is IGBO from Ikaland
Omonuan is Igbo from Ikaland.
Ezeagu is Igbo from Ikaland
Solomon11 is IGBO FROM Ikaland. The list is endless.
On Itsekiri, they have been classified as Jekri ethnic group over 400 years before the formation of the Yoruba ethnic group in the last 120 years.

sonya4all: another point of correction. no ika king belongs to the ohaneze ndigbon. nor does any ika citizen belongs there. when we say ika we mean ika north and south lga in Delta state. of which asaba is excluded. a royal father in Delta can invite another royal father to a function as a guest. But that doesn't mean he is a member of such group. ikas refer to igbos as igbon (slaves )..always ready to claim any good thing. the latest being that dangote i
has an igbo gene which gives his name dangote as (di anyi gote ).

We have been through this before. I know with dementia people tend to forget so easily. Just a reminder, the Obi in charge of Ika at Ime Obi assembly of Ohanaeze Ndigbo is Obi of Akumazi. The last time I checked, Akumazi is in Ikaland.
Secondly, Is Jim Ovia a member of Aka Ikenga or not?. Anyway, you may not know as you are not informed about Igbo affairs despite the fact you live in Igboland.

berem: This thread is not about me. It will be good if you stick to the topic and avoid making me the topic of discussion. I am an Igbo woman from Orlu in Imo State. If I go contrary to your perception doesn't make me lesser Igbo or from another ethnic group. The earlier you get it in your brain that I am a full fledged Igbo girl,the better for you.

But the way you chat makes everyone think the same way one naira thinks. For example, you said that you have seen some Ikas saying that they are not Igbo. Yet you have not seem majority Ikas who say they are Igbo.
If someone here from Ilorin says he is not Yoruba, will that mean that Ilorins are not Yorubas?.
That is Nigeria for you.

dayokanu: A guy who fled warfront and even his father in law called a cantankerous coward would be Ojuku

What has this thread got to do with Ojukwu. Must you bring Ojukwu to every thread?.

berem: how is he a hater? If he is an Ika and says he isn't Igbo,would you force it down his throat by calling him Igbo? I said it earlier that I have seen so many Ikas who deny being Igbos and they are proud to say it.what are you saying then? FYI,am not even talking about the Aniomas o! The Ikas are the main topic of discussion.

Where are you from? Are you a delta igbo?

I SAID EARLIER that the chap is a hater and you refuse to accept it. For two years now, He has been going about preaching Igbo hatred and insulting Igbo people. Only last week, he was calling Igbos slaves and Egbos. Go and check his posts.
Yes am Igbo from both sides of the Niger and I know the two sides very well.

berem: How do you know their Obis are part of the Ohanaeze ndi igbo? Why don't you provide a list of the Obis and their communities that make up the Ohanaeze ndi Igbo? There are so many delta igbos claiming they are not Igbos on this forum.what do you say about that?

This issue has been floored here several times. The lists is endless. Secondly, you do not follow Igbo activities nor visit the culture threads where they were trashed out. Even recently, One naira, a proud Igbo boy from the region started a thread about the Igbo day in Asaba last year with photographs of Ika obis who wrere in attendance. Go and figure.

berem: thanks for the clarification.

Please stop thanking the hater with his idiotic clarification. The chap is an Ika who doesn't see himself as Igbo but you must not because of him think others from that clan are like him.
I don't seem to believe that you are just joking here.

sonya4all: @ berem. point of correction. igbanke. ota. and some areas in edo state are ika speaking areas and not igbo speaking as claimed by the land grabbing igbo propagandist. never rely on Wikipedia as a credible source of information. thanks.

Forget this your blind argument here lil boy. The Edos who are in the same state know them as Igbos and they see themselves as Igbos of Ika clan.
Go and convince Edos that they are Ikas only and not Igbos first before spilling rubbish in this thread.

ame2010: The inquiry into ikwerre names and their meanings is beneficial if used for the sole purpose of informing the readers. It will also serve a good purpose when ikwerre words or names are used alongside igbo names to indicate similarities or none thereof. We can analyze those words and upgrade our vocabularies in the different dialects that constitute ikwerre and igbo languages.

All of igbo and ikwerre dialects can be grouped into one language, namely ikwerre language or igbo language. This may come to you as a shock since no one ever has the the neutral ground. Has it ever occurred to you that the igbos could be descendants of the ikwerres. and that migration may have gone northwards. Now is that a terrible thing to say. All Inquiries into history should start from admission of the individual parts that make up the whole and not the other way round.

I must inform you that what I claim in this little note is not an established fact. I am not a historian and not qualified to inform others on this subject. As an ikwerre son, I am tired of hearing one side of the story expressed everywhere. I agree with most of the voices that claim the ibos and the ikwerres to be one, and that the ikwerres rejection of kinship with the igbos was for geopolitical gain at a time in nigeria when the few ikwerre leaders were asked to choose between having an ikwerre nation or be part of an igbo nation that was losing a war. It was also a result of their historical experience in dealing with the igbos that they arrived at isolation from the ibos.

This is the shock I referred to earlier. THE IGBOS ARE DESCENDANTS OF IKWERRE. How is this remotely possible? We were taught in History that the first settlers stay close to source of water. They will fight for generations to protect their location. the community will continue to expand to less fertile regions. If the ibos who have always claimed to be brave warriors were the original settlers, they would have driven the ikwerres into the atlantic ocean and laid claim to what is presently and has always been and will forever be IKWERRELAND.

My deduction from all of these is that both ikwerre and ibos are one. There is an extensive proof to this in our common language, and that that language could be igbo or ikwerre or even the igbo spoken in Onitsha or asaba. Just because you have a larger population does not mean you are the main tribe and all others are descendants. Check the population of Egypt today and compare that to Nigeria. Let us be happy that we have more that unite us as we continue to travel this path of history. We may not agree to where we came from, please let us agree to where we are going.

THE OPINION EXPRESSED HERE AND THE POSITION TAKEN ARE MINE AND MINE ALONE. THEY ARE ONLY THE OPINION OF AN INDIVIDUAL
MY NAME IS AMEWHULE and igbo variants are AMAEFUNA, AFANAMEFUNA, AHANAMEFUNA, AMAEFULE AHAMEFULE which in both culture signify continuity.
Ask any ibo or ikwerre they will tell that continuity is ultimate objective in these cultures. May we continue to have male children. check out the names; HANACHOR, HANETU, WOKEKORO for ikwerre and IHEANYINACHOR, IFEANYINACHOR are for ibos. I am sure there are more of such names on both sides that signify the continuity of the family.

Why waste so much time writing this epistle full of nonsense. This your idiotic attempt to create the impression that Igbo is from Ikwerre is a failed one. Is there any clan called Igbo?. Why not say Ngwa, Ndoki or any particular group is from Ikwerre.
For your information, Igbo is one which includes Ikwerre, Owerri, Asaba, Nnewi, Umuahia, Udi etc.
Stop misleading the public through your junk please.

Midastouch1: And yet the people of his kingdom think it is an aberration for the "Obi" to marry an Ibo woman?

Please wallow in your ignorance if it helps you sleeps at night

Quit chatting bullshit here poor boy, it's not about marrying Igbo but marrying any one outside Igbodo. Grow some brains biko.

berem: So there is an Igbo speaking community in Edo State? Hmmm.... I have learned one today!

Please stop misleading the public on an issue you don't know. You mentioned Ekwuoma and other Ika towns earlier as people who don't see themselves as Igbo without knowing that their Obis are are devoted members of Ohanaeze ndi Igbo. The same Ekwuoma is where a proud Igbo man in this forum called Omonuaan hails from and the chap has done a lot in promoting Igbo culture. Please do not offend them with your posts.

babyosisi: He is an Obi

His name is Obi Nkeobikwu Osadume
Of Igbodo Kingdom

The traditional Prime Minister of Igbodo Kingdom is Dr Ifeanyi Unomah,


The president general of IDU worldwide is Chief Peterson Ozili-Chiemeke

A member of the Obi-in-Council, Chief Gilbert Nwaije

And they are not Igbo
Bwahahahahahaha

Don't mind the bigots here.

[quote author=ndu_chucks]What is wrong with these nyamiris and Dan berebes on NL always on each other's throats? Now lets see if you people can cooperate and attack me together for calling you names.

It is your lack of cooperation which fuels ONE NIGERIA. olodos

One would hope the senses of humour of the mods are not dead[/quote]Thanks Chuks. Everyday one bigoted yoruba must start a silly thread that will tend to make a mockery of Igbos. The poster is a well known bigot.

Tuntheycr7: They are not igbos
Frm Umunende, Igbodo, Agbor, Issele Uku, Owa Oyibo and Abavo etc dey all speak Ika language and not Ibo

Must you comment on an issue you do not know or are you just displaying stupidity here before forumites?.
So you are telling forumites that my self that comes from the area you mentioned here do not speak Igbo. Where is the brain in your post?
Why not tell nairalanders that from Lagelu, Oluyole, Egbeda, Idi Ayunre, Moniya to Eruwa do not speak Yoruba but Ibadan.
Even Isselu Uku you mentioned here is not even in Ika.
Nairaland continues to go down because of uninformed dudes like you. What a shame.

Radoillo:

Funny thing is, I can pick any of the frontier Igbo groups: Nsukka, Ezza, Ohaozara, Afikpo, Abiriba etc, and by using the same kinds of arguments Agbontaen is using, I can 'demonstrate' that they too are not Igbo.

But I have long learnt to keep off arguments like this. They are just fruitless, and energy-sapping.

Its better you keep off your silly arguments here. No particular group is Igbo but collectively, they are all Igbo.

rexbuton: +
bros calm down, did he insult you?
'ibo', 'igbo', 'ego', all mean d same thing !

Are you joking?. Stop it then.

Abagworo: Having enlightened some of you who didn't know the politics of Isoma/Oratta/Ikwerre let me explain Osuagwu's write up further.

The summary of the whole post is that Ikwerres have a misguided anger against the wrong people. The Aros who comprise a heavy chunk of the people we know today as Ikwerre came and dominated the earlier settlers and have been in control of most of the area till this day. It is however not peculiar to the Ikwerre as the Isomas suffered more devastation in the hands of Aros. They established a slave trade network and were quick to control other forms of trade. The 2 oracles that dominated the Ikwerre,Uratta, Isu and Etche area were Aro oracles of Igwekala and Amadioha at Ozuzu in Etche and Umunoha in Isuama.

Ikwerre anger should be against the Aro and not Isoma. However Ikwerre today IMHO is Aro and Aro is Ikwerre. One cannot separate the two. There is Chukwu and Amadi who of course are Aros and original settlers everywhere.

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no one is claiming any one here

@the OP, I don't believe that South westerners are honest. In fact, they are the most dishonest zone in Nigeria.