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Dede1: Kats relies very much on the conjectural craps floated on the Internet. It is funny to watch the act of “copy and paste” from Kats and how lazy contributors seem to clap moronically for the junks. Kats is so full of it even to the extent of mocking rigid nature of military parlance by insinuating Ifeajuna informed Zik about impending coup.

I can not believe a Nigerian at this stage did not understand the business of 1957 Nigerian Constitutional Conference.

Sometimes, it doesn't worth it engaging a man who only knows what happened in those dark days from the papers.

tomakint: Friend, have u heard of 'Conspiracy Theory' before? To every conspirsacy theory, there is plot, lies and cover-up. We are talking of underlying facts here and not the opinionated views of most books written on the direct cause of the war. Pick any book on the war and u'l c the dissenting voices on the direct cause of the Kaduna Mafia/British war against the Igbos.Trust me we(SW & others) were used!

Don't mind the fools, they will never understand.

saxywale:
Mr Gorilla, welcome on board. I believe you have s lot to learn from this thread.

Get lost first class monkey, is there any yorubaman here to teach me anything?. Get back to your enclave in the zoo, brain dead monkey.

Katsumoto: So Ajuluchuku, who was Zik's right hand man, wouldn't have know whether Ifeajuna was Zik's cousin? I have provided material which states they were cousins; go and find yours which states they weren't.

It is left for you to speak to Onitsha natives to determine whether Zik and Ifeajuna are cousins.
I believe most of the junk you read misinforms you.
If somoeone writes a crap that Obasanjo and Abiola are cousins, the first thing I will do is to speak to native Egbas about it, not just rely on crap people sill everyday in the newspapers.
Before the 5 majors struck, there were rumours of impeding coup. Writers wrote about it and called for a change. Those in the theatre performance even used drama to tell Nigerians about the coup e.g Hubert Ogunde. It is wrong to claim that Azikiwe heard of the plans while Tafawa and Bello did not hear it.

saxywale: Kats, I don't know how old are you or your nationality but your knowledge on history of events is excellent. Two of my uncles enlisted into the Nigerian army a day after ore was invaded by biafran forces. This were men who were neutral all along. They enlisted because they were only interested in protecting the SW region after hearing of the horrors at Ore.

Monkey, this your thread is irrelevant to this topic and stop this idiotic attitude of hero-worship here.

Katsumoto: See comments from the President of Ohanezee; I guess you are going to say that the Old man is a liar. LMAO

[b]'Again, in 1957 when the British Colonial Government, under intense pressure from Southern politicians pressing for independence, attempted to uncouple the union between the North and South forged through Lord Lugard’s Amalgamation of 1914, with the offer of independence to the three Regions individually provided any two accepted the offer, a political crisis loomed large on the national horizon. The Northern Region, led by the Northern Peoples Congress (NPC) took the position that the North was not ready for that level of political and economic independence. The Western Region, led by Chief Awolowo’s Action Group (AG) promptly, declared its readiness to accept the offer. It was the Igbo-led NCNC that held the balance. It was an issue that could make or break Nigeria if the three Regions chose to go their separate ways to independence.

The NCNC leader, Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe took the stand that although the Eastern Region was ready to assume the responsibilities of Regional independence, its attainment without the North would lead, in his own words, to the ‘’Baalkanization of the Nigeria Nation’’ and conceivably a break-up of the country. The Eastern Region would rather suppress it’s appetite for independence and the obvious gains it would entail until the Northern Region was ready. That was how Nigeria Independence was delayed until 1960. In short, the Igbo-led Eastern Region would rather forgo the advancement of its own political economic interests than risk the break-up of Nigeria.[/b]

Had the Eastern Region opted for Independence at that time, the territory under its control would have comprised in today’s terms the following nine States with their enormous human and natural resources: Abia, Akwa-Ibom, Anambra, Bayelsa, Cross River, Ebonyi, Enugu, Imo, Rivers state. It would also probably include Southern Cameroun with the oil rich Bakassi Peninsula. If not for Zik, by 1960, the three Regions would have become separate sovereign states and there would have been no question of Biafra’s attempted secession in 1967 from a non-existing Nigeria federation and the devastating civil war fought to stop it.
Similary, when Zik moved to the Federal scene as Governor-General and later titular President of Nigeria, the NCNC, under the leadership of Dr. Michael Okpara, of blessed memory, continued faithfully in his giant and indelible footsteps, the political bridge-building and nation building enterprise of the Igbo.'

http://www.nigerianbestforum.com/blog/?p=39715

The rumours of the impending coup of Jan 1966 was relayed to Bello and Balewa. They knew about it so were other govt officials.
It is an outright stupidity to claim that Azikiwe and Ifeajuna are cousins. As Azkiwe and Ifeajuna are not cousins so was there no discussion between then about a coup.
Can someone claim that Obasanjo and Abiola are cousins because they are both Egbas.
Dude is always quoting the wrong articles, what a shame.

lagcity: When Awo was an ordinary human being, his name alone sent shivers down your forefathers' spines . Are you okoro children ready to face Awo now that he is a ghost? Ghosts can be much more ruthless you know. Ndigbo, you will surely get what you are looking for. O I forgot, how is the Nov. 5 Biafran Declaration going? bloody okoros, bunch of Mr Ibus.

mONKEY, I won't blame you because your brain is filled up with oil soup, bastartd.

Olaolufred: "TO DRAG" is different from "DRAG".
This is a lost case before it starts.
So many truth about the war are thrown away by its proponent.
They sat every moonlights to dish out all they want the unborn children to believe.
Truth is coming out bit by bit.
However, Prof Achebe shouldn't have ended his journey this way.
I will be more glad if they carry out their bid.
Gowon will go to the Hague, but return a super-hero.

Whether Gowon returns as a hero or not, that murderer should be tried to start with.

Chief D. Osadebey

chino24: They should exhume that criminal to come and face justice..

If he likes let him commit suicide once more..

The same way he replied Obasanjo from the grave, so shall he face ICC.
THEY SHOULD TRY HIS ROTTEN BONES.

ilugunboy: It's never going to happen..if all i've seen here on Nairaland is a guide.

The major reason why it won't happen is because of too much oil soup (Yoruba) which you lots eat. In that Yoruba is bigotry, hatred, back-stabbing, criminality, and all sorts of evil.
The mentality of the yorugbas can change if they quit Yoruba. It has not helped you guys at all.

onomeasike: the blood of the children starved by biafran soldiers at work.the ibos should await more calamity until they atone for the innocent civilians killed by starvation by biafran soldiers!!yeye

First class monkey, shut up your smelly mouth as you know nothing other than bigotry, bastard.

This thread is good for the rubbish bin.

ROSSIKE: I'm his kinsman as far as ethnicity goes. Biko, my fellow Nigerians, let's forgive this elder for his utterances. He's still stuck in 1972. And he has been abroad for many years now. Several decades in fact.

His sensibilities are not in tune with modern Nigerian thinking. With the modern Nigerian mindset. He still talks and weaves arguments about ''Igbos'', ''Yorubas'', ''Hausas''.

Who does that anymore in modern Nigerian discourse? I can't think of a single important Nigerian personality who uses those terms in the public realm today.

So we can see the man is stuck in 1972.

The civil war? Blame cuts across all sides, as even a brief study of the conflict would lead any reasonably educated person to conclude.... if they were ethnically neutral.

As for Igbo 'cultural superiority'? That's a theory from the depths of hell.

Most Igbos of sound mind reject such reprehensible theories.

Was it not Mitt Romney who almost caused a riot in the Middle East after he went there and declared that Israel was 'culturally superior' to her neighbours, causing him to back-track and even deny the comments?

So what is Achebe doing making such comments?

Well, like we say in Igboland, That you see a fly in a pot of sweet palm wine does not mean you throw away the wine. Achebe has given us memorable gifts. Things Fall Apart remains a work that every Nigerian can be proud of. A world classic. As are his other books. A literary genius, his contribution to our cultural development as a nation is indisputable. Indelibly etched into the history of our republic.

On these grounds I ask my countrymen to kindly forgive the esteemed Achebe, for his unfortunate utterances.

What an idiotic post above, pooor boy, take it or not, Prof Achebe doesn't care what you bigots feel like. He doesn't need your silly forgiveness. He is not scared to say the truth and he will still say it again. I do not know why you fools are wasting your time about him. How many times do you see the Hausa-Fulanis chatting ill about Achebe despite the fact he mentioned them in the same wave lenghth as the yorubas. Shameful.

amor4ce: I wonder if the shaping of the head alters behaviour and thought.

Monkey, how about this yoruba kids here, does the shape of their heads alter their behaviours?.

tomakint: Who is this? Did you miss your way here? Soyinka stood vehemently against evil he is a detribalized Nigerian (Omo Yoruba Rere) whom I hold in high esteem till tomorrow! Unfortunately, a diabolical-minded, typical dolt like you do not see anything wrong in the Northern Agenda to wipe an entire race, but choose to join in the killing spree!

Don't mind the lil boy.

tO GET OVER IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, just insult the lady. call her all sorts of names e.g, ikwikwi, udene, ezi, enwe, anumanu, ekwensu odu ogonogo etc.

ochukoccna: From the link you posted [skydiver-felix-baumgartner-breaks-sound-barrier/] ,you should have known it was the sound barrier
Also, if you knew anything about gravity, it is IMPOSSIBLE to jump from the moon and land on Earth
How can you post a link and not read up the story yourself only to depend on hearsay
Are you a graduate of ESUT?

ESUT NEVER, it seems he graduated from S.L.A UNIVERSITY OGBOMOSHO.

@The O.P, may be you are new here, it has always been like that. The only mod who doesn't hate Ndigbo is Jarus, but his hads are tied.
Banning should not stop you from your good job on nairaland. Create lots of them and when one is banned, another one continues immediately, e.g Ngodigha, Ngodigha1, Ngodigha2, Ngodigha3, Ngodigha4, Ngodigha5.
Ngo1, Ngo2 and Ngo3 may also surface if the above 5 are banned.

Katsumoto: Dude,

You know this is not your village square or a pub where you share tales with fellow illiterates and ignorant folks.

What do you have to support the points you are making?

We know Fela's mum was killed by unknown soldiers (that's what the official report concluded). The bigger question is, 'what were soldiers doing in Fela's house for an issue that was a police matter?

Just like all entertainment venues, you will find both the dregs and cream of society. It is impossible to use class or societal hierarchies to enforce admittance to events.

But I am not expecting you to reason along these lines because bigotry is heating you up plus you don't have the intellect to analyze these issues.

You have the intellect to analyse issues. CLAP FOR YOURSELF. Why are you here engulfed in bigotry since you have the intellect to analyse issues. Do you think you are impressing anyone?. Ofcourse, you dont need to but your posts here will always go down as that of a bigot. Either your copy and paste or the little ones that came out of your brains, they all filled with bigotry. You may not know, it is true.

Prof Corruption: If Achebe had been nominated for Nobel Prize in joint category of bitterness and bigotry, he would have emerged winner.

Bingo, get a life, idiott.

Crayola1: Fela was a flawed man, like we all are, but he still had his positive points.

You are correct, yet some people do not want us to mention his negative aspects.
Anyway, my opinions are always different but it must be aired.

Katsumoto: Did he abuse any of the women in your family? Have you heard any woman complaining that she was abused? Those women went to him voluntarily.

"One day of course, we must die"; Something will kill everyone single one of us be it HIV, Cancer, accident, kidney failure, heart attack, stroke, etc. We don't know when or how. We just pray it is painless and not when we are young.

Fela smoked weed just like Bill Clinton, Richard Branson, Michael Phelps, Obama, Ted Turner (CNN), Stephen King, Arnold Schwarzenegger, etc.

What else do you have, Andrew Uweh?

Is there anything wrong why you cannot go and reply Andrew in his posts?.

Anyway, take it or leave it, my opinion about him is that he was a drug taker ( a drug not legalised in Nigeria but might have been elsewhere). Abused women at will, caused his mothers death, used his den as a hideout for armed robbers. What a shameless man .

Katsumoto: I am sorry but who counted you in before?

Will your being in or out affect the honours, tributes that Fela continues to receive?

Perhaps Jay Z needed your performance before he created the Broadway show.

A simple question was thrown at you, and you avoided it. Did he abuse women or not, died of HIV or not?. A famous drug taker, you all are not serious.

Katsumoto: Andrew Uweh,

So one of the world's most successful actors (Will Smith) and Hip Hop entrepreneurs (Jay Z) must be mad and senseless for creating and promoting a BROADWAY show about the life of the LEGEND

Audiences in the western world must be mad to pay in excess of $200 to watch a man who died of HIV.

Socialists and anarchists in Europe must be crazy for using Fela as one of their icons.

If you live 1000 times, you will not match Fela.

Did he abuse women or not?. Did he die of HIV or not, did he harbour criminals in his shrine or not?. How about his drug life?.
Honour a mad man, count me out.

The yorubas in lagos are senseless. To honour a man who died of HIV and who contunually abused women till he died as well as harbour criminals in his shrine.
Useless people.

I don't know why all the ofemanuites are crying. He has done it and will still do it again. Soon Col Achuzia will hit you worse. Jobless freaks who do nothing than cry about a man who they can never match his age and achievements
What a cursed nation.

ayobase: Chickening out.....Common! when did NL stop being a PLATFORM of learning and discoveries.
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No fall my hands na.....provide us with the facts. Okay, where can I meet u?
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Im still on my point. Ojukwu messed up, but his followers were/are too sentimental and emotional to accept/see/perceive it!
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My recap;
-Igbo Killed Hausa and Yoruba.
-Hausa killed Igbo and Yoruba.
-Igbo declared war on Hausa.
-Yoruba begged Igbo not to declare war (whereas, Yoruba stood more ground for the action)
-Igbo still went ahead.
-Igbo blamed Yoruba for betrayal.
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Observation, the Yorubas were in the best position to declare war (both on the Igbo and Hausa) for wasting their icons during the courses of Coups and retaliation.
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Conclusion: The Igbos should stop blaming the Yorubas for their downfall, but Okukwu!

Dude, like I said earlier, people are here for different objectives. As for me am here to do this.
https://www.nairaland.com/899496/pray-nigerias-political-leaders
Am not here to learn anything, and even if I have to, from whom?. There is virtually none to learn from. Nairaland is a place of jokes and people come here with I.D's different from real names.
Regarding Ojukwu, he did not pull out Igboland or eastern Nigeria from the rest of the country but the parliament at Enugu did. Am still in touch with those who made the descision , but my nairaland is nairaland of fun.

MegaMan2020: Another day, another Igbo finger pointing. Don't you Igbos get tired of pulling the the victim card all the time?

Monkey, shut up your stinking mouth. What is wrong in one come up with the truth in his published memoirs, get a life, bastard.