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Willywilly7: @andresia, who cares, call me all what you like that is your personal problem, i'm not a tribalist. i have those that hate others, i hate wicked people, 99% Yorubas are natural Wicked.

Willy, happy Sunday to you sir.

Say no to tribalism Biko.

1 shortblackboy: no whamm. no mind dem. dem no dey tire o 2morrow dem go open another thread claiming a whole people and their territory as if the people no know who dem be

This your silly post is not neccessary as Igbo people have never at any time claimed people who are not Igbo.
Rather Igbo people do not deny what is theirs.

sonya4all: stop being hysterical about my comments.. if you must know I schooled and stay in the east...that however hasn't changed my stance. and Christopher it's your stupid and ignoramus people the are the idiots, stop whining, you have no opinion.

Monkey, you have been warned several times not to be insultive. Are you mad?.

tpia@:
Ehen, your friend aunty desola must roam free, barking all over the forum maybe because seun mukina gave orders she is not to be touched or something? Since she's been here since 2005 helping nl achieve senseless spamming and trolling milestones?

But others get banned for lesser offences?

Desola is the worst thing to happen to nairaland. She should be banned to eternity.

I like the Yorubas because even their elderly can still read e.g this Yoruba man here.

Sloan: Stop with the nonsense statistics! ibos are not up to 20 M! Your lies does not create additional ibo humans in case you are misguided or think everyone buys your propaganda! Of course you are the monkey and I wonder what your type are doing on this thread since this has nothing to do with ibos! Worry about how the Ijaws now call the shots in your country and not whether the Yorubas in Kwara would want to join their brothers in a Greater Yoruba county or Region!

DON'T DERAIL THIS BEAUTIFUL THREAD.
Only the Igbo in the south east is about 25 million. Ten million in Nigeria outside the south east and another 5 million outside Nigeria. That makes the Igbo population 40 million worldwide.
Once again just read through what Omonakoda etc are writing as you anot intelligent enough for this sort of thread.

0monnakoda: The problem with the Oyo empire is that it was an empire which means that all those groups that it subdued are likely to strive for their independence when circumstances are favourable and that is exactly what happened to Oyo in the early 19th century. Ilorin that a lot of people talk about is populated to a significant extent by descendants of slaves from sevral places. Ilorin was a place where slaves could claim their freedom especially if they could fight. It was a garrison town and that is the context in which it broke away from Oyo many of the so called Fulani were mercenary soldiers who were often freed slaves. We must remember that The Nupe and Borgu bore the brunt of slave raiding by the Oyos.

Tracing history to Ife was common just like Arabs and Jews trace their history to Adam but theywere always fighting as the Old testament tells us .There were several nations in Western Nigeria who spoke a "Lingua franca of Oyo language"" but tracing History to Ife Oduduwa etc did not have the same meaning that it appears to have today i.e we were ONE NATION or we are ONE PEOPLE. That would be a strange idea o a 19th century Ekiti or Egba man. That was never the case. The only people that attempted that were the OYO and that is most likely after their kings had been killed and replaced by Borgus or Nupes long before the Fulani Saga. You will observe that the other groups Ekiti,Ijebu<Ondo etc never tried to rule others through empire building.

There is another factor to consider; Geography there has been dessert encroachment over the centuries and the Savanna Belt has shifted southward meaning that Savanna peoples came into interaction with Forest peoples. Oyos used horses in their empire building which suggests they were most likely living in the Ilorin/Borgu territory before being force southwards by conflict

Word.

hardniola: dont feed d troll
u can see d kwara pipo want to join thier kit.
Not som dat want to force themsef on ikwere nd ika........let everybody choose were they want belong
dont feed d troollllll
kwara we decide
who dem want.

Deal with the thread directly and stop making attempts to involve Igbo to it.
Its high time we see topics here without the Igbo involved.

0monnakoda: Who are these Yorubas exactly. The issue of Yorubacame up because of Nigeria if you go to Benin Republic that will give you a clearer picture of the reality.The Yoruba speakers there do not call themselves "Yoruba" which was also the case before the British came to Nigeria

I usually don't read your posts. But from today, I will be reading what you type. Dude, you are not really what I thought you were.
You an an intelligent poster.

Sloan: Referendum will ultimately settle this issue so no problem. The natives and inhabitants of Ilorin will choose to either go with the West or North, why does the eastern ibos care so much about this issue? The question you should be concerned about is what people will even want to go with the East? Even some "former" ibos have now said they were NEVER ibos, why not worry about that?

Monkey, this is not an Igbo thread and do not bring Igbo to it. If an Igbo individual types what you don't like, deal with that individual directly rather than bring Igbos to it. An opinion of one Igbo here doesn't represent the opinion of over 40 million Igbo people worldwide.
Count Igbo out of this thread.

^^^The lesson of your thread is that The Obis do not marry outside Igbodo. If a in future an Obi marries a lady from Akure, Auchi, Afuze, Afikpo etc, the marriage will be resisted by the community. This back ward attitude is their tradition but we have to respect it.
This has nothing against Igbo people as Igbodo people are very proud of their Igbo identity.

Spiff20: Wat is wrong wit d igbo's sef? Am jst xo tired of dis argument linking d ikwerre's and d igbo's. Dey said dey ar no longa igbo's why not let dem be, is it by force? U guys av 5 states already u stil want 2 claim rivers(not even in u guys wildest dream wil dat eva happen) or is it because of d oil. Enuf of dis abeg.

Shut up please. Tell us when Ikwerres came together or their Ezes came together to say that they are not Igbos. Am waiting?.

0monnakoda: There was never a Yoruba land before Nigeria so clearly this piece is not well informed. It is not an automatic thing that if Nigeria were to break up there would be a Yoruba Nation. When the British started conducting census in "Yorubaland" No one identified themselves as Yoruba. People were Oyo,Ekiti,Ijebu etc and so if Nigeria were to break up everyone will determine what they want to do. Even in the so called Caliphate it is an error to believe that the Sultan of Sokoto ruled over Hausa land .This is wrong .'
The Fulani situation is not different from Monarchies in Europe.The English Monarchy are not English but have French,German and other origins.

A lot of Yoruba may not believe this but I genuinely believe that the Oyo or at least their kings are more likely of Nupe/borgu Origin than Odua especially when you consider the original location of Oyo Ile which probably was in Kwara/Niger State territory

Thanks a lot. The above post is the best so far.

sonya4all: links.. Never allow foreigners tell you your own history. I'm not contending with your acceptance of being an igbon. don't bother posting any links because you would be wasting your mb.

Why not go and tell your brother from same Umunede as you (Wizboy) to stop claiming Igbo?.

LIL GIRL, YOU ARE FIGHTING A LOST BATTLE.

donphilopus: Sorry for you.....
You spew hocus pocus always

Guy, enough of this nonsense here.

Do you guys know that that woman called sonya has not contributed anything to this thread except Igbanke is not Igbo. In all her posts, it is always that is not Igbo, that is not Ika etc.
What sort of lady is that?.

sonya4all: the Solomon guy can't provide the answer? or has he gone to visit Google?? am waiting

Monkey, you have come up again with this your pattern of attacking posters of Igbo origin from Delta state. Stop it and make an imput on the topic.

berem: He never said he is an Ika man. He only made a point which I believed. Can you show me on this thread where he claimed to be an Ika man?

He has always maintained that he is Ika in this forum. He goes about insulting Igbo people everytime he comes around here in culture section. Check his post. He might not have said it here but soon as always he will say it and you will believe him.

berem: Did the sonya dude say he was Ika?

He says he is Ika and said which you believed that Igbankes are not Igbos but Ikas. You thanked him for that isn't it. Eziokwu ka ọ bụ ashị?.

bigfrancis21: But then you twisted the story around to make it look like an Igbo vs Ika thread, just to sow a seed of discord among Igbo people which you love doing.

hapụ onye nzuzu ka olie onwe ya.

bigfrancis21: @Bold...are you sure of this?

Igbo awareness continues to grow over there now. Thanks to Uwechue, Jim Ovia etc.

berem: This thread will start making me visit this section. I can see some people claiming what they aren't to buttress their points. Unless an Ika man shows up on this thread, Ikas are not Igbos.

Then how do you believe that Sonya is Ika?. You see how you contradict your self within one page.
Nne, biko, hapụ ihe edere na moto banye na moto. Inwekwara ike ịwepụ aka na ukwu nkịta maka onweghị ihe nọya na ọbụ ọkpụkọ ọkpụkpọ.

Midastouch1: Prove it on this forum right now!!!

Can you post your birth certificate?

I am also from Ika but raised in Lagos

So If I produce my birth certificate showing that I was born in Calabar will make me a Calabar person and not Igbo.
Boy, go and buy some brains.

One_Naira: Btw: anyway notice something. Berem and co were more likely to believe sonya4all claim of ika (despite this being an online and they can't proof like they said) than solomon,ezeagu,ogbuefi,etc claim of ika. 500 naira to anyone willing to tell us the reason for their contradiction. Lcat wuestion Lol

She only reads the ones that suits her. She turns blind eye to posters who are Ikas but proud Igbos. Imagine, believing Sonya the Igbo hater. Wonders shall never end.

solomon111: For the sake of clarification;
Most ika people accept and embrace their igbo ethnity under the anioma assemblage.
Though a few communities here and there still object to being igbo due to long-term ignorance and/or the benin influence.

Thats it. Berem read this post from a son of the soil.

donphilopus: Guy, stop thinking with your a*nus...
Nitwit

Why are you insulting your master?.

Midastouch1: And you expect me me to take your word for it?

Are you 12 years old?

Omonuan and Ogbuefi are my friends and are still till now. I know them very well and they do know me. I know their roots and they know my roots. Am not Ika but through them, I have known Ika very well.
Forget nairaland, some of us here are friends outside nairaland.