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whitecat007: Kobookobo, oya pronounce toro, did i hear tolo ? hennn! where is the matchet man oo. there's an ibo here ooo! he just said tolo, hurry up chop his head off

ASZ-DWELLING MONKEY, you have lots of work to do to your beloved odudunwa nation. This stupidity you have been displaying here will not help you. Your number one test. Search for the contents of this powder that was supplied to your leader before he died.

Katsumoto: Your brain may be sufficient when passing on the 'stories' to your offspring but when in public, you WILL be challenged to provide proof if you make an assertion that appears to be untrue. I knew you were going to say what you did because your complete intellectual ability doesn't surpass calling others monkey. You are yet to offer, in the many years you have been a member of this forum, any sensible positions or opinions, either as abusive Ngodigha or bigoted Andrew_Uweh.

Andrew is still around in nairaland. Go and reply his posts elsewhere. Concentrate on Ngodigha1.
Ww have different objectives here in nairaland. I do not know your aims here but mine is not to learn anything about the civil war as I already know everything neither am I going to download unpublished memoirs of the actual actors during that period. I'm in this forum to cajole those who are bigoted in their posts. That is all. If you are expecting an accademic reference from me, that can happen but not here and never will it be. Do I look like someone who is serious with this site?.
Free me let me go and search for bigots and have a laugh at them.

Katsumoto: If we follow your logic, actors in a conflict are more knowledgeable than the historians who analyse every detail even though the actors only have part of the information. Dude, the accounts of historians have been found to be more complete than actual actors.

You can't provide any proof with regards to Awo promising to secede with the East because none exist. Ok, you don't have to download, just mention the book, article, speech, dates, audience, etc.

It is your prerogative whether you read my posts or not just like it is mine to read yours. I am not here to be liked or admired by you. I am simply here to debate those historical events ensuring that familiar lies and myths are crushed.

Yesterday, your brother was going on and on about the 20 pound policy until he was engaged by EktBear and I gave a breakdown which indicated that Awo gave more than was collectively available in Biafra at the end of the war. He took off and refused to return to the thread saying he was coming back. It has been more than 24 hours, we are still awaiting his return. Similarly, he stated that NCNC won the 1951 elections and after I produced the detailed results, he stated that he had to verify with the results in his grandmother's library. Such is the nature of lies, factual inaccuracies, and myths that are passed from generation to generation by Biafrans. If no one engages you, the lies continue.

Am still waiting for your proof; don't disappoint.

You may be wasting your time waiting for my proofs, because I don't do that in an issue as this. My head is a big library when it comes to Biafra/Nigeria war, what other accounts do I need to quote. A lot of us here are under pains to discuss it, you people who knew nothing about the war until you become adults may not know it.
What one is wearing on his wrist does not require a a mirrow to view it. It was our war, we know it better. We don't need to go and buy books about it, they are strange to you and that is why you need the books.
@The topic, Prof Achebe has he gone too far?. In my opinion, he hasn't because, we all know it.

Katsumoto: I dare you to provide proof of Awo stating that the West would go if the East went.

If Biafra wasn't smuggling in arms, how was it getting arms? Why did Biafra refuse day time shipments and inspections? I have read different accounts of the war from Madiebo to Soyinka to Ntieyong Akpan to St. Jorre. etc.

That my blood relatives did participate makes me a better analyst than someone who lost a relative.

Should people take you serious because of half a dozen books you have read about the civil war than the relatives of the actual people who saw, fought in the war and equally have their own reflective accounts. I have seen it all. I hardly take you serious and for a long time now have not read any of your posts. I don't even know why I am engaging you. Am not saying here that you are a liar, but your accounts are filled with lies.
You might not have read it, Awo said before the hostilities that if the East will go, the west will act like wise. This is from witnesses of the war period. The records are there but for the sake of confidentiality, nothing will be dowloaded here if it is what you are waiting for.

Katsumoto: Well what you heard is wrong. Awo had a meeting Ojukwu to advise against the war. Ojukwu then asked whether they could have a united Southern Nigeria. Awo responded that it would amount to betrayal if he changed the objective of his meeting with Ojukwu since he was representing the Federal government. Awo stated that it wasn't the right atmosphere to discuss such.

There was no starvation policy. That was simply Biafran propaganda. Charities were allowed to fly in food at night until June 1969. After June, Gowon refused night time flights of aid because Biafra was using aid to smuggle in weapons. Ojukwu subsequently refused day time shipments and inspections of shipments. If you were a combatant, would you allow your enemy to smuggle in weapons after you have successfully mounted a blockade? So Biafra didn't receive aid from July 1969 until the end of the war in Jan 1970 (6 months).

Before this meeting, Awo had said if the east will go, the west will equally go, but he did't mean it. Biafra never at any time used aids to smuggle in weapons. I hate your posts a lot because it is always filled up with lies. You have has teachers who saw the war from the glasses of the fed govt. Most of us here were in one way or the other involved in the war and every Igbo here lost at least a relative. Who is your own blood that participated in wars. You so much rely on accounts of those who never saw war. I pity you.

[quote author=ekt_bear]DK and Kats:

What you don't seem to understand is that a coup in which
a) the primary actors were Igbo
b) and all of the victims non-Igbo, and
c) in fact all the senior Igbos (Ironsi, Zik, Okpara and Osadebey, etc) emerged unscathed

was a selfless, non-sectarian, patriotic coup for the best interest of Nigeria.[/quote]Eku bear na wa for you ooh!. Gradually you have become a tribalist.
The coupist were after civilians whom they felt were corrupt, in that case Ironsi wasn't a civilian.
Osadebe, what has he done wrong in a new state created before the coupist struck?. He wasn't marked out for assasination as he wasn't corrupt.
On Zik, could they have killed him in another man's country?.
Okwara, at the time of the coup was with ministers of other countries, or else, they would have arrested him or killed him if he resists arrest just like the not so smart ones did.

Katsumoto: So did Okpara, Zik, and Osadebey resist arrest?

Or were colling off in the Caribbean while their colleagues got murdered in their sleep? (Zik)
Or were they sleeping soundly in their beds with no soldiers to wake them up with submachine gun fire ?(Osadebey)
Or were they hosting the leader of the coupists to a tea party ?(Okpara)

Also when Shodeinde and Ademulegun were being shot in bed with their wives, one wonders why Ironsi was missed despite being the most senior officer.

See the post a minute before yours, that aswers your question.

dayokanu: And what Happened to Azikwe, Okpara and Osadebey?

Azikwe had ulcer and was forgotten, Okpara has Constipation and was forgotten, Osadebey has ezcema and was forgotten

Azikiwe wasn't in the country then.
Okpara was shielded by commonwealth and other ministers in Nigeria that period the coupist struck.
Osadebe, a governor in a new state and hasn't known any corruption.
Personally, am not happy they killed Akintola, but just like any other yorugbaman, he so much believed in otumokpu for his protection. It is still widely practised till date in the s.west, isn't it?.

Awo is not the only Nigeria that comitted suicide, so lets leave the murderer alone. Enough is enough.

Katsumoto: Just to point out that the premiers in the North and West were killed but the two who were Igbo (Okpara and Osadebey) in the East and Mid-west were spared.

Akintola resisted arrest knowing fully that his Otumokpu will save him. But guess what, it failed him.
Balewa wasn't killed by anyone. He died of natural causes e.g asthma.
Bello-he so much believed in the protection of his islamic police, he underestimated the force of the boys in khaki, and so they paid for their lives.
Am sure that if Shagari and Ekwueme had resisted arrest that fateful day in december 83, they would have suffered the same fate as the trio discussd above.

ayobase: My bad, based on posts here so far, thought he critisized Awo only.
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U can see what Im talking about. CONCLUSION based on what I have read on here. Guess u know where Im going to!
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Lets not talk about Muhammed now.
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Just as some yorubas are not better, so are some Igbos (me no hate Igbos, but truth be told)
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Why blaming the same person that begged u not to declare war cos of the KNOWN aftermath (and Im not saying that Awo is a saint)
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U gat me laughing with ur signature....Awori and Yoruba!

About my signature-It highlights a common problem found in Igboland and yorubaland. Aworis disown yorubas when it pleases them and Ikwerres do the same to Ndigbo when it pleases them.
About Awo, people shouldn't be angry because no one has accused him falsely. Prof Achebe is a fearless, if colonialist do evil he will say so , if F.G does evil, he will do the same and refuse greek gifts from them. Hence in Awo's case, he has said things from the way he saw it during those dark periods.

truth4meal: WHEN ARE YOU COMING BACK FROM ALUU? ANIMAL

Mystical beast, my location is Ibusa, Delta state.
Fool.

I still stand by what I said earlier today. All yorugba males require gender reasignments. I mean, their blokos should undergo excision and made to be like their female counterparts in Yoruba land.

truth4meal: YOUR CRUSADE OF LIES END WHEN YOU HAVE NO PROOF BUT YOU WON'T STOP - SINS OF OJUKWU; KNOW WHEN TO GIVE UP

Go and see HID Awolowo now, sucker.

ilugunboy: Foolish iboz....always without any stickler to principle....thought you said all Yorubas are cowards....you are now recanting publicly that your foolish age long assertion?

ASZHOLE, Tell me where I said all yorubas are cowards, 99.5% are including you. Sucker.

whitecat007: You can still do that and don't patronize us. Yours is a kiss of death as nothing good has and wil come from ndibo.

Monkey, phuch off

dayokanu: Definitely stupidity runs in your genes.

Can Murtala Mohammed be compared to Sardauna of Sokoto, Balewa or Aare Ona Kakanfo of Yorubaland? or a prominent Itshekiri high chief Okotie Eboh

Anusz-loving yorubie, Murtala was a serving head of state compared to the fradulent Okotie Ebor or the arabic and islamic trained teachers.
Buy some brains niggi.

dayokanu: Real warlords dont flee to Abidjan below is what they do

Shortly afterward, a detachment of soldiers led by Captain Emmanuel Nwobosi arrived at Akintola’s residence. Upon sighting the soldiers, Akintola opened fire – lightly wounding a few of them including Capt Nwobosi. After bravely fighting for his life and engaging the soldiers in a gunfight, Akintola was shot dead by Nwobosi and his men.

He wasn't a coward and has never been a coward. He is also my hero. Reason, because of the dirty slaps he delivered on Awo's face in Jos. He also highlighted to the world that Awo was a beast and people didn't take him seriously. RIP Akintola, the man that landed awo slaps and landed him in prison as well.
I hereby advice GEJ to make Ladoke Akintola university Ogbomosho to a fed university.

truth4meal: PROVIDE THE AUTOPSY REPORT ON AWO'S DEATH THAT BACKS YOUR FAIRY THEN I WILL TELL YOU ABOUT A MAN WHO WASTED HIS EXISTENCE CALLING YOU HIS SON -

Ask HID Awolowo to publish it. She is alive. She has also secretely told her relatives what happened on that nice day.

ilugunboy: Why not PM a venue for me....so that we can personally settle this score between me and you finally.....I need to really put you in your place once and for all

Asz gobbling monkey, you caword should P.M as soon as possible. Bastardd.

whitecat007: Yes! he blew open the lid off a hole that will suck ibos in, clap for yourself.

Monkey or is it babbon or whatever idiotic name and tribe you represent here. Shut up your smelly mouth. Your leader, your god drank poison and died yet you don't see to comment about it.Idiott.

truth4meal: THIS WAS AN EFFORT BUT JUST LIKE YOUR PREVIOUS IMPOTENT CONTRIBUTIONS ON NL - ITS OBVIOUS YOU AMASS IGNORANCE LIKE IBORI'S LOOT. IF YOU MUST KNOW THE BOOK REVIEW IS ON THE INTERNET AND ACCESSIBLE TO ALL RIGHT-THINKING INDIVIDUAL (WHICH WAS WHY YOU MISSED OUT)- ALSO THE EXCERPT WHERE THE BERET PROF DEBASED THE GREAT AWO IS AVAILABLE ON THE NET...MY POST IS NOT ON THE BOOK BUT ON THE EXCERPT. NOW DID YOU THINK I WASTED MY SCHOOL FEES? I AM NOT LIKE YOUR LEADER THAT WENT TO OXFORD BUT LED HIS PEOPLE TO A WAR HE CAN ONLY WIN - WISHING

Asz-licking monkey, what is your problem?. You should be more concerned with the poison Awo drank that killed him than wasting your useless life here on Achebe's memoir.
Do you want to try this:

ayobase: Many articles have been and been read, and more are still coming, just like the latest by Prof. Chinua.
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All there articles are based on personal perception based on SEEN, HEARD, TOLD and INTERVIEWS/CONFESSIONS!
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We all heard Awo's story and also Ojukwu's.
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Lets not dwell on the aftermath (war and post war), but the pre-war. The war was avoidable, but he Ojukwu still went ahead (did he think he can win it all alone), and later crying woe for being betrayed.
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The Northerners are even out of the scenario now, but Yoruba. Its so ridiculous and pathetic that the Igbos have forgotten the origin of their ordeal.
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The truth be told, nobody knows the truth, but these dead men and some living ones.....their agreement could be political, cant be sure cos I wasnt there when they sat around the table!
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I have good and befitting comments and recommendations about Awo, but the issue of Biafra war that Ojukwu could have avoided. And on the part Ojukwu, he hasn't been recommended besides standing in gap for his people, and simply causing AVOIDABLE havoc on the IGBOS!
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We have dwelt enough on hearsays, let the CRUDE truth be told.
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There wont be sitting around the table for political dialogue if Ojukwu didnt declare an AVOIDABLE WAR!

@Ayo, Prof Achebe, did not only criticise Awo, but also Gowon and Ojukwu. Its just that some Yorubas are no better than muslims who go on rampage anytime the truth is said about muhammed.

dayokanu: I agree with you completely. When I speak people think I am extreme and Its Yorubas who cant think deep that would accomodate the Igbos who have an agelong hatred for Yorubas.

SLA Akintola was my granduncle and he obviously knew the Igbos more than most politician of that time thats why he called them Ibo Alakuko.

Find his clip on youtube and listen to it. It shows that the Igbos have always been this way from time immemorial

Listen to part 1 , 2 and 3 of these and you would understand the Ibos better. The people that knew Ibos for who they were are Akintola and benjamin Adekunle


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNPzWW3kXVg

And he was murdered with just one gun shot on that his ugly tribal-marked face. Rest in peace, the first man to fight Awo the murderer. The firstman to show to the world that Awo was a muster. Thanks to those dirty slaps you landed Awo in Jos.

ilugunboy: Like I said in my previous post elsewhere......I will always want to put some measure of blame on Pa Awolowo.

We had the chance to finish off these damn niggas then, even at the risk of been condemned by the international community.

He should have poisoned the food been send to the fore-bearers of the iboz making noise here today...with that, we will not be making these back and forth arguments.

The few surviving ones should have been send to the farms as human-donkey.

This is what you get if you give Iboz any ounce of chance....they will come back to hurt you for your kindness.

Monkey shitt-licker, you guys are lucky, the war wasn't just East vs Yorugba. Yorubagbaland would have been like the old oyo which the fulanis sacked and they ran away to a new location. Its still not late, try any nonsense and see yourselves as refugees in Benin, Bigoted fool.

dayokanu: Tomakint

In all you have written, What do you have to say about Igbo soldiers killing other regional leaders and sparing their.

That is the beginning of all the issues we have in this country

What an imbecilic question you are asking?. Dimka and co from Benue/Plateau killed M. Mohammed yet the people of middle belt were not exterminated. But the coup plotters suffered for their sins.
Nonsense.

donroxy: u re a full blown ''EWU''..........Listen to ur acclaimed hero for once Odumegwu Ojukwu, who declared Chief Awolowo,The ''Apesin of Africa has the ''President Nigeria never has''
Oloriburku!!!!

The son of a baboon must dance like the father baboon. Get a life Anusz lover.

Dotman01: Chinua Achebe is both senile &
mentally debilitated.He refused to tell
us:
-That it was d action of Igbo boys in d
military who killed top politicians of all
d other regions & killing non of theirs (Zik d president, Okpara their Premier),
that eventually led to d war
- That all d Fed.allocatns to SE was well
kept by Awo & released to them after
d war (about £1M/month)
-That many prominent Igbo like Zik etc never supported them
-That d £20 policy were 4 those who
could not provide their passbook or
last statement of a/s. or are u saying
that Ojukwu, Zik, Achebe Ojukwu
Transp.Co etc only got £20 each? -That Igbo had actually won the war &
had their govt well established wt their
own currency when they remained in
their territory, but badly lost d battle
when they encroached the West. Are
BeninCity/Warri/Ore etc part of Iboland? Yet they wanted Awo supply
them with
Gari,Amala,Ikokore,Rice,Chicken &
Ammunitions in d name of friendship -
animals.

Monkey, once again I ask you, have you ever read the book. No yorugba man here has ever read it and those your poor leaders can't even afford it. You people talk rubbish about a man who is greater that the entirety of yorugba nation. Bunch of fools.

whitecat007: This is exact tone we Yoruba need to get these bullies off our backs. thank heavens most of us know that bullies must be punched in between eyes.
Yoruba home and abroad, its your call, either we allow ibos to walk all over us or we put them in their place.

Shut up your smelly mouth, lesbiano. On daily basis, abokis slaughter one yoruba or another even right there in the s.west and the cowards do nothing. Like I warned you guys, Togo and Benin may be to small to accommodate 2o million yoruba refuges that will be fleeing there. Try it.