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CollectMoney:
You claimed on this thread that you have a detailed LGA by LGA breakdown of crude oil production in Rivers state. And I'm asking for it and you're deflecting. You're referring me to Google. Oya send link lemme, check it out myself.

On Port issue, if there are importers using the Port, it won't function. So the port is Idle because of that. London has 8 Ports, and they are all located on the river as London isn't on the coast of England. It is functional because importers use it.

And I asked you earlier if Igbos had a port and you said no. What happened to the one in Onitsha? Importation masters, what happened to Onitsh port.

Oga don't be slow
Am not a fan of mediocrity!
When the white where ruling Nigeria the used alot of rivers In Nigeria as port, including one in Enugu state, the one you mentioned in port Harcourt, onistha e.t.c
All this things are just river port
The onistha is forgotten, because it would cost alot to bring it to onne standard, so you can't see me calling it seaport! for now azumiri remains the easiest access for sea port in South East

As for the oil thing rest that matter
Nah one cup of oil dey ikwerre land
You don't even need to augre this! Onelga and oyibo nah them get oil

Your are asking me too show you link, as if am your governor that refuse to add it to rivers state website,

You asked me a question, I said you should goggle it I guess you never Googled it,
You provoke
And started asking for links
Why not Google it yourself
And collect plenty links yourself

CollectMoney:


Abeg I just need that your breakdown of crude oil production by LGAs in Ribers state. That info would be helpful to me, that's if you have it oh. Do not get a doctored report for me.

As for who get Port or who no get port, I will rather discuss the Issue with an Okrikan, if at all.

You want us to close the case of the abandon sea port
Lol it's alright
Onelga with 207 oil well
Produces more than 70% of rivers state oil, closely followed by oyibo
You have Google bro
Ikwerre land nah just one cup of oil

Fun facts
Ukwa west local government area In Abia state
Produces more oil than ikwerre 4 local government areas join together
You have internet

CollectMoney:
What you're calling Seaport is actually a River port in Onne. It lies on the Bonny River, which is the same River that the Port Harcourt port lies. I'm just illustrating it to you that they both have close proximity. You wouldn't know.

What makes a port functional is the port activities that are ongoing therein. The port has facilities but importers will rather use mostly Lagos. The facilities necessarily for port functionality are ever present at the port. It is left for the importers to make their referable choice. And most importers choose lagos because of large market within Lagos and SWest. It is good we have come to an agreement that the Port harcourt wharf is in Ikwerreland. Which Port is in Igboland?

Abeg post the crude oil production per LGA in Rivers state. I'd love to see the breakdown.

Oga me and you haven't come to any agreement
Port Harcourt wharf which is not even functional has nothing to do with the ikwerres,
Something wey ijaw people Done claim tey tey

Ikwerre knows there boundaries in port Harcourt
All water front in pH, nah ijaws get am
I never agreed anything with you

There's no sea port in ikwerre land
Know this and know peace

As for igbos having seaport
I never talked about that
Anyways onne and azumiri are the same distance to the ocean with azumiri being closer to the ocean

paramakina202:
I do not care about Asari but if any Ikwerre is upset the right person to take your anger to is Asari not a faceless nairalander.
When Chibuike Amaechi called himself Igbo why didn't his village elders caution him abi he is looking for relevance too?

Exactly
They should caution there people both in Nollywood, claiming Igbo

CollectMoney:
Seems you have comprehension issues. I never said Onne port is Ikwerreland. I said Onne Port and Port harcourt Port are on same Bonny River. I made that comment because you called Onne seaport and called Port harcourt Port a river Port. They lie on same Bonny River, using the same bight of Bonny as the point of entry.

You are Igbo and not properly educated on Port harcourt. If you were, you would know that the Port of Port Harcourt was the primary reason the Town was founded and the Port and railway terminus was built on land already occopied by Ikwerre villages. I have a snapshot I copied here on NL.

You are the one that's not properly educated on port Harcourt!
They old port Harcourt small township, Lagos road, aggery road e.t.c are all ijaw areas
They ikwerre part of port Harcourt is actually very very big!
Nevertheless the sea port you're talking about is not in ikwerre land oga!

And they other river port you're even taking about is not functional!
As of today
They only functional sea port in rivers state is onne
Far away from ikwerre land!

Oya to settle this open map of rivers state
Check the location of the river port and the sea port we are talking about! Then Check map of ikwerre land
This will end they argument!

Lemme also remind you that they ancient river port we are dragging is not even functional, nah only onne they work

Finally
Ibandan sees a brown roof twin🤣😂😂😜😜

Delusion is sweet 😂🤣

CollectMoney:
Onne Port like Port Harcourt Port are all on the same Bonny River.So I don't get your point.

I don't want to join issues with you on Ijaws laying claim to the Port because the port ordinarily is the property of the NPA.

Whatever mischief you intend to make cannot be sold on me. You can take your bitterness elsewhere.

Oga say what you know
Greater port Harcourt is not the same thing as ikwerre land!
Once you reach aggery road axis, you have left anything ikwerre land!
Onne is not ikwerre, have you ever seen ikwerre man laying claim to onne seaport
Onne belongs to the ogoni people, who they ijaws have assimilated

Where exactly is seaport in ikwerre land is
Where you one build am?

Do you even know the distance from onne to port Harcourt!

No

CollectMoney:
There is Seaport in Ikwerrelsnd. Thats the basis for the name Port harcourt. A port town built and named in honour of Lewis Harcourt in 1912.

Port harcourt wharf, my uncle worked there many years ago.

As at today there's no seaport in ikwerre land oga,
The sea port in rivers state is In onne!
And the old forgotten river port you're talking about has been claimed by ijaws, the lay claim to all the waterfronts in port Harcourt city
Like I said there's no sea port in ikwerre land,
Port Harcourt is a city shared by ikwerres and ijaws

Let's not go into to oil, the ikwerres actually believe they have oil
Anyways goggle the local government producing oil in rivers state, you will be shocked
Owaza in abia state, and ohaji/egbenma in imo produce more oil than ikwerre land each, unless your are trying to add oyibo, etches and onelga l.G.A areas as ikwerre land

They ikwerre man too much believe in port Harcourt hype, so the love port Harcourt more than iwurouha (ikwerre land) itself, forgetting that port Harcourt metropolis is a joint venture!

The major reason I don't consider them igbos,
Igbos think hometown and city

Whalis:
Igbo means forest in Yoruba
Igbogo means forest in Ikwerre.
Esuke means hiccups in Yoruba
Esuke means hiccups in Ikwerre
Kini means what in Yoruba
Kini means what in Ikwerre
Omi gbono means hot water in Yoruba
Mini gborogbo means hot water in Ikwerre
Now is ikwerre Yoruba?

I wonder what you where trying to prove by writing this!
It's very funny
The things you wrote as ikwerre is actually Igbo

Your are funny guy
Anyway like I said
Ikwerre is not Igbo

Esuke is hiccups in Igbo
Kini or Gini means what in Igbo
Miri gborogbo means hot water in Igbo

Seems like you haven't traveled out of pH before, this is not a basic for argument
Like I said
Ikwerre is not Igbo
Stop feeling insecured,

Whalis:
No ikwerre politician or celebrity has ever claimed Igbo. Amaechi denied being Igbo. Listen to him when he visited the Deji of Akure.

Amaechi openly claimed Igbo, check all his campaign videos
Dude was literally singing it as a song!
Duncan mighty said the same thing!
Sabinus recently at ndu baby show in pH
Was talking about supporting Igbo language in the entertainment industry!
Tonto dike once posted it on her Instagram!
The secretary of ohanze nah ikwerre man, not just him
Them plenty for ohanze

Like I said
You guys should call out your people claiming Igbo, deal with them first and stop feeling insecured whenever you here Igbo, we don't actually give a Bleep

You guys aren't igbos
Tell your people who have traveled and have seen the difference between ikwerre and central Igbo
In every Igbo groups and central Igbo!
They're they once who suddenly starts claiming Igbo
Tell me one igbo man who has claimed ikwerre?

Despite ikwerre not been Igbo!
You saying ikwerres don't have links with igbos is another lie, you lots manufactured due to your insecurities,
it's on record
That they ikwerre from time immemorial married more so called igbos than the marry any other groups,
Ask yourself why is the ikwerre igboid dialect gradually slowing down with central Igbo keep rising within your mist?

Unless your aren't being truthful to yourself,
You would realize that you guys are worrying over the wrong reason
First teach your childrens how to speak ikwerre Igbo dialect, not they central Igbo they go about speaking! (I mean they ikwerre dialect that's sounds like ohaji in IMO state)
After that! Start calling your people out whenever the claim Igbo
Because it's shameful that the ikwerres dialect itself is mistaken to be Igbo, only for your people to leave it and keep embracing the central igbo language itself

Whalis:
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Oga English, speaking part of west Africa is different from Englishmen!
When a British man says you are fromEnglish speaking part of Africa, he is not addressing you as a British man
And you wouldn't start telling him,that the Pidgin English you're speaking is Your own just that it's similar to his own

Now taking about annexation, why will igbos annex you? This is the insecurities that clowns your mind, not just you but plenty of your people!
There's no sea port in ikwerre land, neither is there anything thing of special interest your group has!

Now taking about language
They thing you call Igbo (central Igbo) is actually a language that developed (just like pidgin) from all Igbo languages
The similarities between ikwerre and what you call igbo, also exist between ngwa and Igbo, mbaise and Igbo, umuahia and Igbo, Nnewi and Igbo, no body owns the Igbo language to him or herself
The central Igbo just like pidgin is not learnt, you will just start to understand it naturally!

We the SE igbos migrated from different places and after a long time,the language developed

Ask yourself
Why is it
That no one calls akwaibom man Igbo? Dispute sharing boundaries with us, and plenty of them residing in South East cities?

With that being said
Ikwerre as they said is not Igbo!
Stop getting angry whenever you here Igbo speaking part of rivers, unless you drop the language

Whalis:
God bless you oooo. Since the word go we have always vehemently and passionately told Igbos we have no connection or common ancestry with them. In 1964 when we had everything to gain by claiming Igbo we formed the Ogbakor Ikwerre Convention. Igbos did a catch up by forming Ohaneze Ndigbo in 1965. In the same here in what is today called Rumumasi Declaration Ikwerre released a communique declaring they have nothing to do with Igbos. Remember this was a period Igbos were in charge of eastern Nigeria. Where mention you are Igbo would open the Trojans gate for you.
Ask any Igbo Man the Igbo word for 'Yes'. It doesn't exist.

Ikwerre is not Igbo
Die this topic
No one is claiming you guys, it's your politicians and celebrities that goes about claiming Igbo!
I have never seen any Igbo man claim ikwerre it's the other way round!
But nevertheless till further notice, everyone would still be regarding you guys as Igbo speaking part of rivers

Whalis:
So Abia and Imo are Ikwerre people right?

Oga stop feeling insecured
Nobody in this particular thread is calling ikwerre Igbo,
But until you guys drop the Igbo language
Every one will keep addressing you guys as Igbo speaking part of rivers

And talking about slaves, every tribes was involved in slave trade the aros sold there fellow igbos, ikwerres too sold slaves and ikwerres too where sold as slaves (back then it was regarded as Igbo) that's why there no special documented ikwerre history by the Whites before 1940,
Asari claiming the sold igbos would have been there ikwerre neighbors
Which as at then was regarded as Igbo

Abagworo:
The people you call Rivers Igbos that is Ikwerre, Etche, Ndoki and Asa look like Imo groups of Oratta, Okpala, Ohaji and Ngor then Abia groups of Ngwa, Ndoki and Asa.

Ogba,Egbema,Ndoni and Ekpahia of Rivers State look like Oguta and Egbema of Imo State.

Those groups that look alike do share actual kinship beyond ethnicity.

There's no difference at all
They call other igbos isoma
While ngwa people call other igbos ohuhu

GreatBoss:
The money is not one time money.
Read it again.
Endless money.

Please how much is the money?
Make an estimate
People here fit contribute am back for you
No worry we got you covered
Anything for ijaw Republic


Is the money for designing of flags, or coat of arms
Talk joor

Conner44:
If its indeed endless then why are you disturbing yourself

Dey chop any amount you see dey go na. Afterall the cash tap no go ever dry abi? Don't be greedy for nothing.

Nah weapon money 🤣😂
E long die
It's the money reserved for the building of ijaw Republic
Referendum never come, dey don Thief am finish
Chia
President ABI general
No won fight vice President

Bendeco2020:
The truth is that most minority sub tribe can't be seen as an ethnic group. When I went to rivers state I didn't see the difference from them and other Igbo state. Average rivers indegene can speak Igbo dialect.

The fact is that rivers uperland is more related to Imo than even Anambra/Imo relationship, only the appearance or stature of an Ikwere, Imo and abia can confirm. Some Anambrians and Enugu indegenes are more related to Igala than their relationship with Abia/Imo. In general, Igbos are diverse, but are united with a common language.

You are right about this
Very well

Rivers igbos, IMO and Abia
Has little or no difference

I wonder while every local government in rivers is considered a different tribe,
Except ikwerres that has 4
They should all join together and form one bloc
Like Anioma people

paramakina202:
Exactly.After the creation of Abia out of Imo state, Abia contributed Afikpo zone of Abia to emerge with Abakaliki zone of Enugu to become Ebonyi state.

Yeah
They greatest look alike is IMO/rivers/ Abia
You will hardly know the difference
Have you seen wike and hope uzodinma speaking Igbo (you will almost think, they are from the same community)

Anambra/detla igbo is very very difficult to differentiate

But there's is a heavily contrasts between IMO and Anambra people, they don't even look alike at all

paramakina202:
Enonyi was created out of Abia and Enugu states.

And Abia was created from imo

Bendeco2020:
Being created from Imo doesn't mean that they are more closer.

Some part of Anambra North are more closer to Igala than fellow Anambra South even in appearance.

Oga you don't know this people more than me, the entire Abia north have similarity with ebonyi, you won't even know the difference
How on earth does sinach, tekno, humble Smith e.t.c take resemble David Mark, or uromi

Ebonyi IMO Abia and rivers state igbos look alike alot, you can hardly know the difference when hope uzodinma and wike is speaking there dialect!

The both calls other igbos isoma

On the other hand there's no difference between onistha man and his asaba brother, the same culture food etc!
The only resemblance is with the few Igbo indeginous communities in kogi
And those igbos that were wrongful added to Benue instead of Enugu

GreatBoss:
Nobody is fighting any war.
If Ijaw would be free, it would be done diplomatically.
We have Ijaw Republic Suit for Referendum in Abuja High Court, we have given Ijaw Republic Documents to United Nations.


Self Determination is not a crime if you are none violent and we are not.



But this is different matter.

Go to twitter
Ndoki people are planning to fight you people >: , the did there meeting dec 2023
They invited sunny oliseh
They said you people want to annex them, and that there's nothing like ndoki ibani
The said Ndoki is different
While ibani is different too,

Bendeco2020:
Oga you have not been to every part of Igbo. Have you been to Ebony State, Ebonians even look similar with Benue people than Abia/Imo counterparts.

Have you been to Anambra North? For example people from Nzam, Anam E.t.c have more things in common with Idoko of Kogi state.

Have you been to Enugu state? Some part of Nsuka in Enugu have more things in common with neighboring Kogi towns than Owerri people.

Forget, we're united with the general Igbo language but are still diverse.

Lies ebonyi was created out from IMO and Abia, ebonyi IMO and Abia look alike alot, while Anambra, detla Igbo and Enugu look alike

GreatBoss:
No.
Not that one but Ijaw Nation moving forward projects in general.

Okay
because it would be somehow
That they war haven't even started and your friend has eaten all the donations for weapons

If you are outside Nigeria
Report him to ijaw youth council
That's how igbos do there thing, amicably
The will settle it indoors no one will know
Every Igbo sub group like Nsukka,ngwa, mbaise all have there associations
So report yours


Op hope it's not money gotten from ijaw weapon fighting donations 😜😂

InyinyaAgbaOku:
Enugu is silently industrialized

I know emene axis, and nsukka and 9th Mile axis
But it can't be compared to what is in ABA, and onistha

Enugu government should focus on making the city to join 9th mile! People shouldn't be able to know they difference between 9th mile and Enugu (it's like ogidi and onistha, or osisioma and ABA)

Also nsukka and obollo afor should be looked into, fun facts is
The city glueing up there is far bigger than enugu,
Nsukka itself is okay, for sure
But those rural areas joining nsukka from obollo afor needs to be checked

Abagworo:
100% completed. For now it is the best intercity road in Southeast besides Enugu-Port Harcourt road joining Umuahia and Aba.

Impressive
What about
Owerri to okigwe
Owerri to mbaise/umuahia
Has anyone be completed?

All those dual carriageway that hope started 2022/2023

Abagworo:
It is not hidden but Rivers State was created on basis of minority therefore each tribe is given full ethnic recognition to avoid dominance from the larger ones hence Kalabari, Ikwerre, Etche, Eleme, Ogoni, Okrika, Ibani, Opobo, Ogba, Ndoni, Ekpeye, Egbema, Igbo(Asa + Ndoki), Abua, Andoni etc. are distinct ethnic groups recognized by the Nigerian constitution.

https://youtube.com/shorts/rr7igV3b8EE?si=0wyC4LQjhnDOTRN-

Exactly they point, all of them claimed to be distinct ethnic groups
Hence the keep rotating power from one Igbo speaking group to another Igbo speaking group,

This is what amaechi was fighting against,
When will an ogoni man ever test power? Andoni and kalabari people nkor?

They Igbo speaking part of rivers state have been controling the affairs of rivers state since 1999

I thought 2023, would have been the turn of a true ijaw man, wike did his thing an handed over to another Igbo speaking governor from opobo (king jajas place)
The ijaws kicked against it initially, but fubara that can't even say
Hi or come in ijaw, automatically claimed he is ijaw
So they voted him
Wike on his own part
Made sure he surrounded fubara with people from other igbo speaking part of rivers, from the deputy governor to the end

junketer:
i think it's about 10 to 15kms. I'm from okpuno

10 to 15km intracity dual carriageway is good,


Hope uzodinma built 30km dual carriageway from owerri to olru,
Almost same to oguta, Owerri to mbaise/umuahia
And owerri to okigwe
That's why roads in IMO state seems to be very wide,
Abia state to is promising, otti is planning construction of 18km dual carriageway from ABA to owerrinta (ABA outskirts) , Nndc is doing another 18km from azumin to owaza

Umahi also did his thing in ebonyi
Rochas started it

But we need more

Ofodirinwa:
What is the flaw in the city plan that you're specifically trying to address? Most of our cities are well planned, unless you see something I don't. I think city planning for VILLAGES is VERY important, because they are becoming cities and towns are not a single one of them have a plan. And you can easily become active in your village planning, easily form a plan and present to leadership, easily form a committee you can go to Local Government with, or work with community leaders to recruit planners.

But Owerri, Aba, Enugu, Umuahia, Onitsha, Asaba, Akwa, etc already have city plans and they're not bad or presenting any real issues.


none of this is to say you or others who are thinking of development plans for Igboland are doing a bad thing, but those of us who care about these things waste our entire lives talking, while those who don't care act and dominate on-ground politics. Igboland is designed in a way that anyone who wants to step up can step up and others will fully support if you're making sense.

I understand your point, all ideas and no implementation
Kept us this way

You are right that's the reason
I don't really rate social media

But nevertheless
Am not expecting our leaders to roll out master plan for our town Fastly turning into cities
But at least to build multiple lane inter city highways only, so we wouldn't have the tiny roads in future
They only thing differentiating Abuja from onistha metro is just the intercity highways surrounding Abuja round
Despite different towns in Abuja being far from each others
Unlike onistha metro where all towns is Fastly glueing up together

BabaRamota1980:
Not at all. Im pointing to you that your leadership class has held you back, and they have refused to support and encourage your freedom from Lagos and other regions. If you break yourself free of dependence on Kano, on Abuja, on Lagos, you will break their power and class.

Dependence how??
Not all Igbos are living outside igboland, as a matter of fact out of the 22 richest men in Nigeria, 11 of them are igbos and majority of them, are residing in igboland (Google this)

Our region is almost full
As it is the most dense populated region in Nigeria
That's why you see us everywhere
As a matter of fact we have built up and occupied all the forest from owerri down to onistha (use Google earth view map and verify its turning into one city)
We migrate not because our place is bad compare to other Nigeria places, but because if all igbos come back to south east
It won't enter all of us

So we aren't depending on anyone in this country, the igbos controling the markets in Lagos, Kano and Abuja
Has nothing to do with the Igbos down East, the igbos in east also import there own goods directly from outside Nigeria reshape it into finish product and sell it by themselves, nothing concern them concern Lagos
Infact almost every House hold stuff, clothes,shoe etc sold in Kano/Abuja are being bought from onistha and Aba
Go and verify
The igbos in South East don't depend on anyone at all