Vuitton:

IMO the quality of Eminem's verse in Renegade is much higher than in Forever.
Check the lyrics and flow.

That is not the point.

We are not trying to compare Em's verse on "Renegade" to "Forever". . . .
What we are comparing is the difference between Eminem's verse on Renegade to Jigga's. . . .
It was tight and Eminem was better just marginally. . . .That marginal difference was what Nas referred to as MURDER. . . .

The question now is. . . .If Em's minute difference on Renegade is MURDER. . . .then what are you going to call the difference between his verse on "Forever" to the other rappers who featured on the same track?
Geddit?

I think its safe to refer to it as HOMICIDE

ritchboy:

I think its safe to refer to it as HOMICIDE

I think MASSACRE will aptly describe it.

~Sauron~:

That is not the point.

We are not trying to compare Em's verse on "Renegade" to "Forever". . . .
What we are comparing is the difference between Eminem's verse on Renegade to Jigga's. . . .
It was tight and Eminem was better just marginally. . . .That marginal difference was what Nas referred to as MURDER. . . .

The question now is. . . .If Em's minute difference on Renegade is MURDER. . . .then what are you going to call the difference between his verse on "Forever" to the other rappers who featured on the same track?
Geddit?

Oh, ok


We cant refer Em's verse on Forever as ''Murder'', Renegade was named that b'cos Jay Z is a Giant in the Rap game and one of the best Lyricist in the game,
So it was like 2 giants going head to head and everything about the song set the stage for a duet like song.
But Forever to me features a great MC (Em) with 2 average (drake & kanye) & Good one(Wayne), The 3 know they can't touch Em on that level!

~Sauron~:

I think MASSACRE will aptly describe it.

Them lot got Schooled by Em,

F u up:
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But Forever to me features a great MC (Em) with 2 average (drake & kanye) & Good one(Wayne), The 3 know they can't touch Em on that level!

Up until then. . . . . .The fans of Kanye and Weezy believe Eminem was washed-up and had lost his mojo.
I cannot believe how ordinary Kanye sounded on that track.

Kanye's verse wasn't that bad. But I'm tired of his 16 metaphors in 16 bars style which is actually similar to how Drake and Wayne raps. That shit is played out [color=][/color][color=][/color]

I'm not knocking Kanye or Wayne but they are no way near Em, No way

Some MC are on a different level,they might not come up with something dope all the time but when they get down to it, it's always Bananas!!

Eminem murdered zilch on "Forever".

And it's even drudgery to regard the track as a competition . . . let alone a battle.

It's like pitching John Travolta against Morris Chestnut . . . and expect a face-off . . .

Relatively, one would expect Eminem's verse to swallow the other 3 like Aaron's rod did those of the Egyptian sorcerers . . . shoulda been a walkover . . . but what did we get?? Some fast-paced bars and nutin more . . .

The mere fact that Stans have to burst a vessel . . . just to show us how Eminem owned a joint in which Drake, Kanye, and Weezy were featured . . . clearly reveals that Eminem has degenerated . . .

We don't have to look through a microscope to see it . . . the difference oughtta be clearer than noonday.

Bamsyle:

Eminem murdered zilch on "Forever".

And it's even drudgery to regard the track as a competition . . . let alone a battle.

It's like pitching John Travolta against Morris Chestnut . . . and expect a face-off . . .

Relatively, one would expect Eminem's verse to swallow the other 3 like Aaron's rod did those of the Egyptian sorcerers . . . shoulda been a walkover . . . but what did we get?? Some fast-paced bars and nutin more . . .

The mere fact that Stans have to burst a vessel . . . just to show us how Eminem owned a joint in which Drake, Kanye, and Weezy were featured . . . clearly reveals that Eminem has degenerated . . .

We don't have to look through a microscope to see it . . . the difference oughtta be clearer than noonday.

So Drake and Jigga too are Stans? Because they both admitted that Em murdered the track. (Btw, Jay-Z was surprised Em wasn't on the Hottest MCs list, like we all are.) And Wayne was saying he didn't consider it a collabo. We all know what that means. Lol. Please stop using the 'Stan' point. Even heads who are not Em's fans agree that Em murdered the track

Bamsyle:

Eminem murdered zilch on "Forever".

Omo u still dey hia dey argue? . I don make my own points and it's up to y'all to believe what you want to believe.

I have to agree Eminem was sick on that song. I particularly remember his verse, for some reason. .

Jeez, ya'll still on this argument .

man i have not heard the track but i know there is no better rap artist orther than Eminem please who can send me d track in MP3 format, PLEASE

Haba Eldee you have commited a treasonable felony how can you even give people the chance to compare the Renegade's verse to the Forever verse by posting the lyrics if that Forever verse was half as good as Renegade i doubt Drake woulda released the song. This was when EM was hot & at the peak of his powers! His raps made sense where on topic (there where no verse fillers on Renegade) no forced multis like "baleed" or boring Hannibal Lecter lectures. Those Renegade bars would kill any rapper own their shit Nas included
Oya lemme use a footie analogy here i would liken Renegade to Ronaldo of 2002 that led Brazil to World Cup victory and Forever to Ronaldo that now stars for Corinthians

Bottomline the contrast of styles and high speed delivery got Stans irate again! Throw a Crayzie bone or Twista and the same effect would be generated sadly those ones dont have as many fans and so would not get that many responses