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raumdeuter:
Paid Dollars or Naira?

How much is the Dollar amount you paid?

i think 28 dolls

timbros:
Nihilist can I now safely say Lukaku played a full season for us without registering a single goal?

He joined August 2011 and left for his first loan in August 2012.

You should be more concerned with what Morata can do, cos I tell you, we plenty wey dey wait for you.

raumdeuter:
I was waiting for you to drop money, na your money dey hungry me to chop

I've paid since na?

Raumdeuter, you dey play fantasy betting this year?

mukina2 so you really no wan send us the code sha. And I finished ahead of you in all leagues we competed in o

bykebyke:
Thoughts on us getting an upgrade on Neymar!?

There isn't an upgrade on Neymar available in the market.

I don't even believe this dembouz dude is a close substitute.

And that's a good thing...for Team Ororo.

Jumpman Jumpman Jumpman Jumpman Whoop!

Seems this Dembele has a history of dodgy transfer dealings

His transfer to Dortmund too was not without controversy.

raumdeuter:
That is still better than Lukaku who had 0 goals in 2 seasons at Chelsea

Wow. What a flop.

Yet some people wanted this 0 goal in 2 seasons striker to start over Fernando Torres who had at least 1 goal for Chelsea?

Thanks for answering my question though. I appreciate it.

raumdeuter:
Asking if 2 seasons isnt enough doesnt tell the story when the said striker played 2300mins the equivalent of 25 games in that same time, Starting strikers are playing 90 games.

Demba Ba actually did not play 2 seasons, He joined in January 2013 and left June 2014.

So stop the fake news

14 goals in 2300mins is a very good return

Prove that Torres had a better goals+ assist returns per minute played. WOuld you?

January 2013 is in 2012/2013 season

June 2014 is in 2013/2014 season

That's 2 seasons to me...


I'll take your silence on the question for a yes, 2 seasons is enough to score more than 14 goals. Afterall Demba Ba himself managed 29 goals in 2 seasons for newcastle.

Thanks for your kind answer bro. Appreciate it.

raumdeuter:
2300mins of football for Chelsea and 14 goal returns that is at par with the best Chelsea strikers of the decade.

That ratio of 14goals per 2300mins taken into 38 league games is 20 league goals per season

And what is your question? 14 goals in 2300mins is a very good return

And Fernando Torres actually has a better goal + assist return than Demba Ba. I didn't check but it might even be on par or better than Diego Costa's

Anybody can twists stats how they want. That's why I did not ask you for stats.

The simple question is this:

Is 2 seasons enough for a striker to score up to 15 goals in all competitions?

Is the question to hard? Or should I switch to Yoruba?

raumdeuter:
14 goals in 2300 mins is actually a very good return for any striker and its at par with the best strikers in Chelsea recent history

One goal every 164 mins in a league of 38 games will get you about 20 league goals a season not a bad return

2300 minutes in all competitions is not the same thing as 2300 minutes in the league so press pause right there.

And you still haven't answered the question

raumdeuter:
Putting it this way makes it better with this ratio it shows Demba Ba has been one of the best Chelsea striker in goals per minutes played

Demba Ba 2309minutes 14 goals 165mins per goal
Didier Drogba 27042mins 164goals 165mins per goal
Diego Costa 9795mins 58 goals 169mins per goal
Fernando Torres 10996 mins 45 goals 244mins per goal

Shows Demba Ba was at par with the best Chelsea strikers of the past decade and Torres was the main outlier

If your intention is to prove Demba Ba failed then we can also say Drogba and Costa also failed as strikers for Chelsea

Any further questions

But I didn't ask you who the best striker was


I asked you if 2 seasons is not enough run to score more than 14 goals.....

I am yet to get my answer...

raumdeuter:
In those 2 seasons did he get the run Torres got? How is this different from those who said Lukaku had 2 stints in Chelsea to prove himself when he got piece meal minutes

Dayo this a simple yes or no question.

Are 2 seasons, 50+ games and 2300 minutes not enough to score more than 14 goals in all competitions as a striker?

Yes or No?

Emaprince:
Skeptics everywhere... Just because of a cameo role.

I need to watch this guy perform for 90mins or for a few consecutive games before dishing out any criticism. Suarez in his first few games didnt fire immediately. If i remember correctly, it took him upto 3games before he started firing.

Give Morata a break.

At Liverpool or Barca?

It took Suarez around 18 months to start firing at Liverpoool...then again, Suarez didn't cost Liverpool 75m

raumdeuter:
You missed the main premise and its there for all to see

"IF DEMBA BA WAS GIVEN THE RUN TORRES HAD HE WILL SCORE 15"

was he given that run and failed to deliver 15 goals

So 2 seasons is not enough 'run' as a striker to score more than 14 goals in all competitions?

timbros:
First of all, Morata's style of play is not BULLY.

Secondly, he may not score but assist and/or make an overall impact for the success of the team.

Finally, calm down till season end not just Burnley match.

You don start abi?

timbros:
Make airmark calm down nah till after the match instead of how Ben Mee is brimming with confidence because it's Morata he is facing.

And no riot fit happen even if him no score Burnley. What if he assist 3 of those 4 goals we are suppose to score Burnley?

I fit manage assists definitely.

timbros:
If him come score Burnley now, na you go come here say "ordinary Burnley person no go hear word".

But he suppose score Burnley though. We should be beating them at least 4-0. They've sold their best defender, and yesterday sold their top striker to Watford.
And Burnley historically don't do well in EPL away from turf moor

If Morata plays and doesn't score this weekend, we suppose riot for here.

nonsoroyalty:
We are focusing all our attention on the two kings Robert vs viserys. (ibime vs Nihilist)
While the main fight is between Jon snow and the night King (joeace2020 Vs diggz)

I no dey fight anybody. Several people who have functioning grey matter in their skulls have already noted that all allegations against me are null and void.

Felicia just in his feelings again because he's been exposed for the 1476th time.

Ibime:
Tell this to your old self that you keep denying like Simon Peter. Were you confused then or now?

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Griffon, please tell the Society for Archaeologists to cut my cheque please. I'm done here.

Stop trying to attache by force and give us the link to that post so we can see the context.

I made that post after a particularly terrible game by Ba....the Ba that cretins like you insisted was doing very well.

Felicia you will end up crying today

Lol seeing that Dayo post just made me laugh.

Demba Ba would score 15 goals.

Demba total goals for Chelsea in his two seasons - 14

This is the argument I was making, when Felicia saw it and said 'Torres Lover'

Ibime:
I think it's clear from all the conversations that everyone recognised you as a Torres lover. Raumdeuter, A40, myself, Griffon all addressed you as a Torres supporter. You were busy looking for midfielders to blame and trying to use Demba Ba stats to absolve Torres and put blame on the midfielders. That's just the synopsis of that particular matter without even digging into previous matters.

In that sequence, you can see where I was calling for Sturridge and Lukaku to replace Torres, as I did right from 2011, you were busy batting away for team Torres. That's all. I did not lie. My memory dey kampke. What is understoond ain't got to be exposed.

Felicia shut up there.

Nihilist that called Torres a flop is now a Torres lover?

This is what happens when you fail to take your meds.

I wont be surprised if we visit your house and find you wearing nappies and playing abasha with your food. Your madness don pass becareful

For those of you who really want to read those posts in context

https://www.nairaland.com/search/jackbauersballs%20torres/0/0/0/2

You will see that nihilist was discussing Fernando Torres in comparison to Demba Ba.

This is what happens when you're a sad waste of space who is unable to accept defeat even when it's staring him in the face.

Felicia own your truth - you're a bigger liar than Jim Carey

Ibime:
You should have left this matter yesterday instead of bandying the word liar about while telling barefaced lies like below.





In the words of KRS-ONE, I wasn't digging on it then, but I'm digging on it now.

A good archaeologist knows that you don't go digging without spade. All it would take is to click on your Jackbauersballs or Gustavofring accounts and the first 5 pages would have exposed this barefaced lie. But I was not about to start typing "Nobody Torres" in Search Engine or going through 2 years of old Chelsea threads. The matter was not that serious, but you took it personally and tried to lie to newbies while we who were here with you then were shaking our head. You could have denied the matter without calling people liars, even after Griffon corroborated the story. And Nateevs also knows the history.

I only just digged one days worth of conversation and everyone can see which camp you were in, to the point you were blaming Lampard, Hazard, Mata and Oscar for Torres goal drought and even tried to bring Demba Ba into it. From all the posts of the people in that conversation, it is clear you were a Torres lover, not the lies you are trying to spin now.


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In essence, you were a Torres lover, while we were supporting Sturridge and Lukaku, you were busy blaming Lampard, Hazard, Mata and co for Torres not scoring. Don't try changing story 5 years later. I would not bother going back even to older conversations. We were here with you and we say the truth as it was. You were in Torres Camp with Nateevs and Cougar before switching. No need to take it personal and call people liars.

When I said you had a mental problem, you though I was insulting you. I was merely paying yo a compliment.

If you go and actually click the links to the posts that you screenshotted, you will see that I was also talking about Demba Ba and how poor he was as well.

Dude stop reaching.

Own your truth as the biggest liar this forum has ever seen.

diggz:
Based on all the evidence provided by both parties, I officially declare Nihilist.....Not guilty on all counts!!

Thank you.

You see, unlike other people I just don't wake up every morning, plucking lies out of my äss to post on this thread.

I always have receipts.

So you can never catch me saying anything I can't back up with proof.

I don't live on shutter island

nonsoroyalty:
Pls guys who owns this moniker EL GUAPO

Enter the cobhams office and ask for the manager. Tell him you have a mail for guapo

Ibime:
Hmmmmm. . . . Nobody take it easy oh!

Felicia you set take am easy

Vanquay:
It's none of my business but I can't trust someone that claims another person's daughter.

Cobhams mail service can help you deliver this package to the right address...

dayokanu:
Their positions are slightly different

Jackbauer - Demba and Torres suck because Stikers suck in Chelsea generally

Debosky- Agreed, Torres is dud but Demba ba is also Dud

Coogar - Actually Torres has been excellent in Chelsea while Demba ba is a failure

Nateevs - Anything the above people say is right

Griffon see the summary of those arguments here. And this was in 2013 when I was supposedly pro Torres.

If you bring out some of my posts from 2012, my position on Torres is even clearer

Note the bolded words: EXPECTED...not GIVEN...EXPECTED

For the amount of money shelled out for him, it is EXPECTED that he performs. Yes all strikers have the occasional bad day at the office, but the good strikers are expected to have more good showings than bad.

For example, We EXPECT Ronaldo to Perform, We EXPECT Messi to perform. When Rooney exits the dugout on Match day, we dont make excuses like:



or



When a 50 million pound purchase fails to inspire EXPECTATIONS, then he is finished.

When Torres needs the dunce-king coogar to try and shift the blame for his consistent poor showing to his teammates, he is finished

Don't let that fantasist try and gas you with 'nobody' excuse.

This is a dude that went as far as creating a spreadsheet of 20 footballers and manually entering data copied from whosvored for each player, before creating formula to calculate correlation all in a bid to try and win an argument with himself.

Best believe Man don search tire and realised that another lie has been exposed.

Nihilist was never a Torres Lover....and Nihilist never praised Torres over Lukaku.

All Felicias can suck a dick.

BlueAngel444:
A lot of evidence on this page supports Nihilist integrity and debunks Ibime accusations


But why would you bring this out just to win?

Lol that was actually directed at me because coogar thought I was part of the 'Anti-Torres' crew

Lol coogar.