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sinizia:
Wow!! So you've learned the art of dodging, and you're blaming Raumdeuter of evading questions. So you couldn't show the favor or agree that the opposition bribed the ref to deny us a PK?

Anyway, Aguero has been banned. Get used to it.


SHEKPE Killersquad FC.

Whether the penalty was awarded or not was irrelevant. The Ref didn't think it was pen and clearly even Ferguson wasn't concerned about it.The point is why do you have a manager trying to call off a game 'in game'? Why is the manager then asking for extra time 'in game'? Did Nihilist coin the term 'Fergie Time'?

Instead you are quoting of events that Mark Halsey attended. Maybe Halsey had leprosy and is banned from attending occasions.

Actually, Halsey was banned from contacting Managers whose games he reffed, but he did it anyway....you really should know better. See below:

""At the beginning of the season all our referees were reminded of the importance of adhering to the PGMOL protocols.

"This covers a number of issues, including making direct contact with managers and players, which for integrity reasons is prohibited."

sinizia:
Hold up? So while coloring the words that suits your conspiracy ambition, you didn't see the words "At half time United were losing 3-1 and the pitch was like a swimming pool." or "my wife said it was a PK"? So the pitch being like a swimming pool is not enough reason for Ferguson to complain? So the ref being biased and no denying us a clear PK is okay by you? You got jokes.


I'm still waiting for the favor the ref gave to SAF.

The fact that Dermot Gallagher didn't acquiesce Ferguson, does not negate the fact that Ferguson asked for the favour .

Other people did do him favours though. Same Mark Halsey that brought up the Aguero gate row, regularly texted Ferguson and even attended dinner at Ferguson's house as a ref.
And of course nobody can forget Howard Webb.

I don't know what you're trying to deny when even Ferguson admitted that he used to unduly influence referees.

"'The fourth official (against Swansea) on Sunday showed me the board and it said eight minutes. I said, “think again!” - Alex PDP Ferguson.

When even David Moyes was questioning whether Mike Riley was a united fan, you know whats up!

PDP!!!!

joeace2020:
Thick skin...so eventually it's all about trolling utd and not stating the facts.. I blame everybody including myself who responded to what you two dunderheads brought here. You guys should go learn how to troll. You are jobless noisemakers.

Oh shutup joeass.

You are clearly one of the fools that kokaneprodigy was talking about. Generally, I ignore your posts because you only piggyback on other posters to sneak in abuse. There is not an original thought in the cavern between your ears, and it reflects in the fact that you had to repeat numerical elements in your username.

Sit on the sidelines you little gumbo.

sinizia:
Is it not deceitful that you are removing the part where the ref said the pitch was waterlogged hence why Ferguson told him to call it off? Then again, did the ref call it off? Why can't you show us the favor that the ref granted him. I'm still looking for it.


While finding the favor for us, tell us why a ref refused to give a clear PK that even his wife saw clearly, o ye conspiracy theorist. I didn't see you complaining of the opposition bribing the ref not to give us the PK.

I'm sure you saw the words 'Do me a favour'. And 'Please give us a hand'

It's pretty obvious what the context of that so called request was.

kokaneprodigy:
With recent events I can categorically conclude that most scummies lack the ability to think analytically, critically and logically. They will need u to spell everything out for them.
a sport body makes its personnel sign gagging order and goes as far as entice them with £50000, with another ref denying the obvious thereby prompting a retired ref to divulge information on his past experience relating to such incident.
Yet some dunderheads believe there's nothing to it cos their drowning club might be culpable.
In case y'all don't know, retrospectives actions are to be taken on only off the ball infringement like that of Costa on Kos that refs didn't spot. Aguero's issue wasn't off the ball and the ref even spotted, but FA is treating it the other way.
Take it or leave it. this Aguero's issue has been hijacked by some persons.

LOL

Do NOT be decieved. Many of the boys here are very sharp and intelligent, but they will deliberately NEVER agree anything bad about the club...which is why you need thick skin to troll them into something close to acceptance or submission.

Of course, there are one or two that fit the category you described there...

eph12:
Even without ref help we pulled back from 3-1 to 3-3. We could have gotten a penalty at the end but the ref refused to give it. Pitch was so bad and that's not a good reason to call a game off? Fergie only wanted a good atmosphere for his boys and of course if it's good for his boys then it's good for his opponents too. He didn't ask for a penalty or did he? He wanted the game called off because of the bad weather condition the ref said no, fergie said no problem but instead focused on training his boys to come out top and you're here disgracing yourself

If you can't read, or can't comprehend what you read, then just sitdown on the sidelines.

God bless you as you comply.

sinizia:
Someone help me out please, I'm too old to remember these occurences:

Which useless team, with their mouthy manager as of then, Mourinho, and rabid fans, threatened Anders Firsk into retirement simply coz they couldn't bribe their way like United does, just so they would win Barca? Did they get sanctioned for it?

Maybe you don't remember, but Jose Mourinho was actually talking about what he saw. He saw rijkaard following Firsk into the tunnel to talk to him, and then he mentioned it in his press conference. What some crazy fans decided to do is of no consequence to this discussions as fans will be fans. We all saw the balaclava clad fans that went to look for Rooney when he was asking for a new contract. I'm not sure how the conduct of a few deranged fans is relevant to a discussion about Ferguson's undue influence on referees.

Me and you be paddies, but I'm not going to get involved in a raumdeuter style bait and switch.

E never finish o. Please which team and their toutish pathetic fans did Norwegian referee, Henning Ovrebo, complained bitterly about, that they were sending him DEATH THREATS AND PLANNING TO KILL HIM FOUR MONTHS AFTER THEY MADE HIM RETIRE? AGAIN, SAME CLUB MADE A refree RETIRE JUST SO THEY COULD WIN BARCELONA. grin grin grin

Completely irrelevant again...Are we discussing crazy fans, or are we discussing mangers having direct undue influence on referees. Ferguson was PDP. The guy frustrated benitez so much that he came crying with the facts. I expect a factual rebuttal from you, not a post clearly designed to gather likes....

You can do better sinizia. I go wait....

Meanwhile, check out the cries of the only man bold enough to stand up to the then godfather of EPL....

Rafa, take it away...

I was surprised by what has been said, but maybe they [Manchester United] are nervous because we are at the top of the table.

"But I want to talk about facts. I want to be clear, I do not want to play mind games too early, although they seem to want to start. But I have seen some facts. On 1 November, they played Hull and Mr Ferguson had a two-match touchline ban and a £10,000 fine after confronting Mike Dean, the referee, for improper conduct.

"We started the Respect campaign, and that was when [Javier] Mascherano was sent off [last season] at Old Trafford. The referee [Steve Bennett] was the referee when they played against Wigan – he could not see the handball against Wigan by Rio Ferdinand, he did not give a penalty. They won the game and they won the title in this game. I think it will be the same referee who will be in charge of their game in hand this season [against Wigan].

"During the Respect campaign – and this is a fact – Mr Ferguson was charged by the FA for improper conduct after comments made about Martin Atkinson and Keith Hackett. He was not punished. He is the only manager in the league that cannot be punished for these things.

"Then he was talking about the fixtures. Two years ago we were playing a lot of early kick-offs away on Saturdays when United were playing on Sundays. And we didn't say anything. Now he is complaining about everything, that everybody is against United. But the second half of the season will see them playing at home against all the teams at the top of the table. It is a fantastic advantage.

"But at Christmas, United played on the 29th and the rest of the teams played on the 28th. We were away against Newcastle two days after playing Bolton. They were playing about 40 hours later, they were not complaining then.

"And about his behaviour with referees. The Southampton manager he knows how Mr Ferguson works and how he works, he was very clear. I am not playing mind games, just facts.

"If he wants to talk about fixtures, and have a level playing field as you say in England. There are two options if we don't want more problems with fixtures. One is the same as in Spain, the draw for the first part of the league is known, everyone knows which weekend. In the second half everyone plays the opposite, so you all know. Sky and Setanta have the right to choose their games and it will be the same for everyone. So Mr Ferguson will not be complaining about fixtures and a campaign against United.

"Or there is another option. That Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple.

"We know what happens every time we go to Old Trafford and the United staff. They are always going man to man with the referees, especially at half-time when they walk close to the referees and they are talking and talking.

"All managers need to know is that only Mr Ferguson can talk about the fixtures, can talk about referees and nothing happens.

"We need to know that I am talking about facts, not my impression. There are things that everyone can see every single week.

"Are they under pressure? Maybe they were not thinking that we would be at the top of the table in January. But we are at the top of the table and they are nervous.

"I am not telling the authorities what to do. But I have been here for five years and know how things are going on. I will be watching United's game with Chelsea. The result does not matter to us, if we win at Stoke that result does not matter.

"I was surprised United wanted to start the mind games too early, maybe it is because we are top of the table. But I only wanted to explain our position.

"It is a massive difference to play early on a Saturday, say, after a European match in midweek. But they will play the second half of the season with home matches against the other top teams, and that is a massive advantage to them.

"They cannot complain about the fixtures after they were playing on 29 December while the rest played on the 28th.

"I have decided that I had a lot of information and I have been watching every single week what has been going on. Then they started talking about us, but every single week we know they will be talking. But we want to stay at the top and maybe they will talk about us right to the end.


"To hear someone talking when he has problems with referees every single week, and now complaining about the fixtures and complaining about everything, I think that is not fair.

"You can see every single week how they put [referees] under pressure, we know this. We have seen it before. We have seen players sent off at Old Trafford and we do not see our opponents sent off. It is part of the game. But to complain and to always have an advantage is not fair.

"We had a meeting in Manchester with managers and FA about the Respect campaign. And I was very clear, forget the campaign because Mr Ferguson was killing the referees, killing Mr Atkinson, killing Mr Hackett. But he is not punished. How can you talk about the respect campaign and criticise the referee every single week? You can analyse the facts and come to your own decision and ideas."

AdisaOwala:
No be today Managers dey try influence match proceedings in favour of thier respective clubs - the incessant complaints & rants at the touchline plus the mind games we have seen in pre-match pressers are testaments to that effect.
Sir Alex was a famous & respected manager with a strong personality and it was only natural for some match officials to be intimidated with his pedigree.

"Fergie pulled me aside and said 'do me a favour, call the game off'.

I know we're 3-1 down but please call it off, we could do with a hand here


Intimidating....or asking for favour?

PDP yawnited. You sef know whatsup...

AdisaOwala:
But I cannot find anything in this interview suggesting that Sir Alex Succeeded in his quest to "influence" proceedings nah..

If a chorister tells you that choirmaster tried to touch her bumbum, do you need the pastor to tell you that choirmaster has been touching other bumbums?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_XZ13m6_PA

And that's the game...Notorious Alex at his dirty PDP tricks again.

I know we've heard this one before...but lemme just leave it here...for posterity at least.

Ferguson was renowned for his treatment of referees, in particular a tactic of pointing at his watch towards the end of games where United needed a goal.

The retired Scot claimed in his autobiography he did that in order to create tension for the opposition, but former referee Dermot Gallagher has revealed there was more to it than that.

Describing one particular incident Gallagher told Sportlobster TV: "I remember going to Old Trafford at the end of the season.

"Manchester United had three games that week and I was given the game on the bank holiday Monday. It was chucking it down with rain and Fergie pulled me aside and said 'do me a favour, call the game off'.

"I asked why and he said 'there’s nowhere else to fit this game in and the Premier League will have to extend the season. We'll have a better chance of winning the match and we'll win the league at Old Trafford'.

"At half time United were losing 3-1 and the pitch was like a swimming pool. As we came off he said 'I know we're 3-1 down but please call it off, we could do with a hand here'. They managed to pull it back to 3-3 and in the last minute Dennis Irwin ran into the box and went down in front of the Stretford End and I only gave a goal kick.

"At full time Fergie sprinted across the pitch and shouted at me furiously. My wife said, 'Fergie had a right go at you about that penalty didn't he'. I told her he hadn’t mentioned the penalty.

"She asked why he came tearing across the pitch at me then. [size=18pt]The truth is he ran over and asked me if I was going out to dinner that night. I said 'no' and he asked 'why are we leaving so early then?" [/size]

PDP united...

Who knows, maybe sir rednose is up to his old tricks again regarding the Aguero ban...

But we all know that Manyoo is the pdp of EPL though...

Ferguson used to bully refs anyhow.

Plus Fellaini jumps on the pitch running around elbowing people in the face and I don't remember him getting banned...

And of course, who can forget the guy in the number 12 shirt for the red devils....Howard Webb.

Halsey has a point...at least when it comes to manyoo

chic2pimp:
Dude anytime one of these so called "one off events" is on the horizon, alert your Boy bikonu

No wahala

chic2pimp:
F#@$ING OGHENEMAROOOOO ....Dudeeeee nah who u know nah? You seriously need to connect your boy . You are living the life ya know.

lmao tibe.

Yesterday was a one off though.

chic2pimp:
F@#$ Why am I just seeing this? You lucky bastard . How did you get tickets? How was the game?

I know a guy
BTW check my profile pic, you might recognise the guy in thr Sarries shirt.

dopeJemi:
Nobody bought a ferrari working 9 to 5

LMAO

Maybe not in Nigeria

A40:
Chale me I no dey for all this long yarning. This is coming from a 14 year vet from your league not some sankwa personality. An incident Gary Neville a legend from your league called to confirm

And usually this is how it starts. You are talking about an individual that didn't pay tax, and another who supposedly bribed FIFA (two incidents that have zero relationship with actual matches)

Mark Halsey is talking about institutionalised kwarupshin. Your entire league is corrupt braah. In fact your league is at par with Nigerian league

A league where the umpires are kwarupt is no league at all. Abajo! I coulda sworn Andre Marriner saw that Aguero elbow incident, it was clearly in his line of sight and if he missed it then you have to ask who entrusted him with a whistle in the first place

The only league to produce a ref that would give two red cards to one player in a World cup match. You guys put the K in KWARUPT

Again these are unsubstantiated allegations...which obviously need time be investigated

As of today though, there has been no proof offeredor evidence tendered. Halsey might put his hand in his kitchen cabinets and accidentally retrieved a satchet of ewedu and smokeke it instead of his usual lush, before going to twitter to yarn...nobody knows.


What we do know though, is that police, olopa, AK,FBI, Ciao, Interpol and even Bakassi boys are investigating the criminals thar run your club..one of them done even already chop beans.

You guys are more crooked than the gait of a one legged man doing the denge pose.

Bayern Scamich. Onijibiti FC.

A40:
Awon onijibiti

Won ti'n je wo

Useless league that should be burned down

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mark-halseys-allegations-strike-footballs-8762844

Hopefully you can tell the difference between an unsubstantiated allegation leveled by Mark Halsey, and repeated police investigations(AND incaceration) of multiple board member at Bayern Munich.

One is 'Dem Say', the Other is 'Tewon De'. One doesn't even have any backing evidence, the other involves convicted and incarcerated criminals.

Halsey is making allegations about referees and goes to great pains to stress that the FA is not involved.

Bayern on the other hand has several shady characters, convicts, and known fraudsters concentrated in just one boardroom.

You need to know the difference like Dr Dre, it's definitely clear like 7up.

I can bet that at least 50% of all the 'my father died leaving me $200m' emails that were ever sent on the Internet originated in the Bayern boardroom.

Next time you check your spam folder in your inbox, you might see a message from Uli Hoeness inside, claiming that he was a legal counsel to Abacha before he died, and that he has 1 billion dollars for you guys to share.

Greatihex:
Just finished my final year in school. Glory be to God.
The labour market awaits.
Guys, join me in thanking God

Labour market waits for no man.

This is where the hardwork begins in earnest. This period between your final exam and your NYSC POP is extremely crucial - try and obtain at least one extra qualification/professional skill.

You can thank God when you get a job.

cococandy:
That part is obviously true. Was he in their lives and he didn't know the whereabouts of his grown son? And if he was in their lives would the kids be hating on him now? Common sense shows that part is true. You guys are just looking for how to justify his bad behavior.

In the first thread before this one where he claimed not to have been informed. I was of the opinion that Stella did bad by not informing him. Only for the son to claim he was informed. That's where all the ifs and assumptions come in. Because no one really knows who's telling the truth now. Although I'd bet he's the one lying. Because as a reasonable person that lost a child his first move shouldn't have been to go to the media. Still let's give him benefit of the doubt.

I am not justifying the father's behaviour because I don't know the history , and I don't pretend to know the history.

It is very possible that a father who loves his kids can be denied access to them by a vindictive co-parent - This is the very reason why Custodial Rights are a key element of Family Law, and are one of the most contentious parts of Divorce Cases.

I personally don't care if the boy has issues with his dad. He can still cut his dad off without inviting public speculation in the manner that he has done. That is just daft.

As for you and the rest of your crew, you need to make sure you don't break your ankles while eagerly jumping to conclusions.

cococandy:
That's why my comment started with 'IF'. You need comprehension in your life.

It is only the first part of your statement that was qualified by the word IF,

You went bold to state that the man had 30 years to show that he loved them yet didn't.

If your use of English is so bad that you can't even understand the very things you write, then sadly you need more than comprehension in your life...

KD22:
When a father and mother disagrees, the children NATURALLY follow after their mother. What happens next is transfer of bitterness, anger and gall deliberately into the hearts, minds and soul of the kids who swallow it all innocently.
The results?

Women over the centuries have always used their womanhood and children- if any as tools against their husbands should there be disagreements or separation.

Thanks for this.

All the people shouting "he wasn't father" without fully knowing the dynamics of that family are extremely daft and stupid.

Oduah has now been divorced twice. This is a woman that is clearly not afraid of leaving a relationship on her terms. What's to say she hasn't blocked the man from accessing her kids in life as she clearly has in death, all the while feeding them with hate against their father.

Nobody knows...

There is no justification for this boy's immature actions
If the father was abusive, meet him in court. If you dont want anything to do with him, cut him off quietly.

Inviting the entire world to be spectators at your family drama is just stupid. How can any sensible human being turn his familial intrigues into cheap entertainment for the masses?

cococandy:
If the man has been out of their lives for almost 30yrs, how does it make sense that the boy should be buried in a place where he was neither loved nor wanted? Tradition right? Well traditon was made by men and isn't infallible. I wonder why people seek to uphold meaningless tradition over people's wellbeing. He had 30yrd to show them that he's their father who loves and wants them. He didn't.

How do you know this is actually the truth?

Because a boy with a clear grouse against his father said so?

Do you know what else has gone on behind the scenes to lead to this? Do you know the actual dynamics of the original custodial arrangement, assuming there actually was one?

People like you jump to conclusions quicker than the leopard on a Puma shoe.

chic2pimp guess who's going to twickenham tommorow?