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Sustainable debt is good. Just trying to tell people where the funds for transfer is coming from. We are definitely broke. Simple!

I don’t know when people will start reading or read to understand. Where did I say debt is bad? I said we are using debt to acquire players. I did not say debt is bad.

Panther7:
He is right, the money for the transfers are coming from credit facilities, aka USA banks.

Lol. We Dey tell una. Don’t worry, wait until October 2025 to see the latest quarterly numbers which will include all operational and transfer activities until end of September. You go see correct increase in debt.

Mrviktor:
It was never confirmed
Some said rashford
Some said garna
Some said amad

Let's not hate on garnacho please.. he was a good player for us.

Leave them na. It’s funny how everyone is hating on him. This life ehn!

patrickmuf:
I hope it is now clear that nitrogen and his goons are all for the failure of the manager. If you call them out they'll say you're intolerant towards those with divergent opinions but we all can see that theirs is from a place of hate.

Rashford disrespected the coach, the management and fans by going to the press to say he needs a new challenge even when he is still contracted to the club.

Garnacho ran to the press because he was benched for an important game.

They expect the manager and club to pamper such entitled players to the team's detriment. I will ask them to observe Rashford at Barcelona and Garnacho if he joins Chelsea, they won't try such nonsense...

Sancho is another example, he was out on loan but was posting all manner of cryptic messages against Manchester United, his parent club. There was a time he couldn't get a game at Chelsea, but he didn't go to press, he worked hard and got back the trust of Maresca, but if he were here, he'd start throwing tantrums and trust the likes of nitrogen to jump on his defence.

Sterling has not uttered a word of mistreatment at Chelsea, and Chilwell too. How about Grealish at City and other top players who hardly ever feature for their team, but no, we should tolerate such behaviours here because Garnacho is 21 years old. Will Fergie tolerate such? Will Pep? Will Mou?

Make season do start so that person go stop to dey read nonsense for here.

Did I mention Rashford and Sancho? Are you sure you are okay? I specifically brought up Garnacho’s case because of his age and his potential, not forgetting the fact that he’s played well for us and he was not managed well. We rushed him into the starting 11 and now discarding him without giving him enough time.

And yes, top managers tolerated and tried to work things out before letting good but stubborn players go. Each case took more than 6 months.

Jamiuokolaa:
Conte at Napoli won the league with the likes of Mctominay as serie A best player.

He delivered without replacing superstars like Kvara and Osihmen

Nah, Serie A is not EPL. Every new EPL manager needs brand new players to compete.

odizeey:
Manage a father?

Abeg talk another thing.

Loool. 21 year old father.

Englishisamust:
Baba just do yourselves a big favor and avoid this people. There is never one thing man u can do well in their eyes.... Some of them have make oath with the red devil in our uniform to be negative about any man u development... . Gernacho wey no get sense!!! Wetin guardiola do cancelo when he dey misbehave...

So, he sold Cancelo within 6-7 months? Someone that joined in 2019 and was loaned in 2023/24. All the players Pep had issues with were not sold within 6 month of joining the team. He tried to make it work and most of them were even matured older players.

seunpinky:
There’s nothing shrewd about Man U’s business model in the last 10 years (post SAF) this idea of signing a new coach and spending 300m on the coach to get his own players every 3 years is not sustainable esp when the coaches are not winning major trophies.

Also, Man U has not made any decent player sales in the last 5 years. The highest revenue from a player sale is 23m from Elanga and 29m from James meanwhile the club has spent close to 1b on Anthony, Sancho, Mount, Onana, Rashmus, Casemiro, Lisandro, Yoro, Ugarte, Verane, Zeerke, de legt, Dorgu and more recently Mbenuo, Cunha, Sesko and maybe Baleba.

For me, Amorim is not any better than his predecessor,
A good coach does not need to buy 5 players before he can perform Slot and Flick comes to mind. You can argue that slot met an established team but what of Flick, he inherited a team that the former coach (Xavi) criticised as not good enough to compete.

All valid points especially regarding Amorim. Some of us have mentioned this several times. He should not need new players to show us what he can do. Based on what I have seen, no improvement should be expected. I am hoping that the recent buys are not for Amorim, in case another manager needs to take over. We can’t be buying every manager his players. Does not make any sense.

seunpinky:
TBH I hear what you are saying but I think you are failing to realize that Man U does not have the appeal/pedigree (recency bias) to attract top talent at good prices..

There’s no European competition, had a horrible season. The only way top guys will come play for Man U is if they are offered good money (clubs - Signing fee and players - salary). Established players will not come near Man U from a mile only players that are looking for a major breakthrough will join Man U.

Compared to teams such as Man City, Madrid and their recent transfers.

Man U needs to build back it’s reputation (win major trophies, compete in Europe) then quality top players will come at even better price point.

I agree with you. Although our fans are making it sound like we are doing shrewd business. Not any different from Mou, LVG, and ETH eras. Infact, one could argue that we are paying more for less these days.

Leyqute:
I don’t have time for unnecessarily long debates.

Other clubs have teenage players. None of them are as disrespectful and immature as Garnacho. That alone should tell you you’re backing the wrong horse.

Wrong assertion. But it’s okay. Enjoy your evening!

eph12:
Yes we can. You sell them off as soon as you can. SAF did, Pep did, Mourinho did, Klopp did, everyone does

So you sell off within 6 months? Amorim has not done one year here, don’t forget.

So Cunha had issues with five managers, including Diego Simeone. Seems he is quite lazy. Bruno and Cunha in the same team won’t help sha. Bruno is not that efficient when we don’t have the ball. Baba just forms hardwork without any output. Means the DM will have more work to do. God help us!

Jamiuokolaa:
Herd Mentality on these pages isnt exactly a new development..

Arguments / claims of "Agenda"..even in the face of simple/clear logic, verifiable facts and stone walled evidence are some of the common symptoms.

Don't be too triggered.

It’s crazy. Any opposing opinion gets shut down. Can’t we coexist and tolerate each other without wahala? Online and faceless space fa!

Leyqute:
You can complain about game time but not immediately after the game- AND CERTAINLY NOT TO THE PRESS!!

I keep saying it. It is people like you enabling the bad habits of these average players.

I have heard you. The boy was doing okay coming from the bench and was making impact. Na una kuku make the boy too important to the team.

eph12:
For a team that is trying to find their feet, do you think the team can afford any sort of disruption from some players? Attitude to training and matches, subtle disrespect to the manager, feeling more important than other players, making provocative comments on social media etc?

You can’t avoid one or two disruptive players. Whether you are finding your feet or you are doing well as a team. It’s unavoidable.

Bombblacks:
I was about to make this point about Cunha. I am all for cultural reset but how then do you go out and buy one the most problematic and lazy player in the league who has fallen out with nearly 4 different Managers. I still don't understand the Cunha signing especially for a position we were well stacked in. We could have used that funds for other relevant positions. Mbuemo, Bruno and Sesko would have been good enough.

Let’s see how he will do it. He should get ready for a show.

Leyqute:
Go back to the timeline of Amorim’s relationship with Garnacho.

He was dropped alongside Rashford for the Manchester Derby. But afterwards, Amorim called him back into the team. This didn’t stop the teenager from being entitled whilst playing rubbish.

He believes he deserves to start even though his decision making is horrendous. Amorim benched him in the final and all hell let loose.

Arrogant, unwilling to learn, and ineffective. Is that the kind of time bomb that any sane manager would want to have in their squad?

How else do you want Amorim to have handled things? Allow Garnacho to walk all over him like ETH? I think a loan spell would be more appropriate, but Garnacho is agitating for a move away— to another premier league club, so that he can “show” Amorim.

It’s people like you that keep on giving immature players like that false ego.

Again, young players will always show immaturity. It’s for the manager to sort things out and don’t let it get to the public. Amorim also lashed out at him publicly. What were you expecting?

Forget, young players these days have plenty false egos because of ridiculous transfer fees and limited talent out there. It’s for you to find a way to manage them, there is nothing you can do about it. Part of a manager’s job description. Check Ronaldo and Fergie’s relationship at Utd.

If Amorim cannot manage a 21 year old, how is he going to manage matured and stubborn football players. Don’t forget that Cunha can be incorrigible as well. How is he going to deal with hi ? Unless he wants to practice favouritism.

Leyqute:
Are you for real? The same Garnacho that was benched in the Europa league final and ran crying to the press afterwards?

Interesting, so this is even because of one event. Na today player dey complain about not enough game time? It just seems like Amorim can never do wrong. With his outburst, he even devalued the player. Does that make sense?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14754131/Man-United-Amorim-Garnacho-news-transfers.html

Leyqute:
How is this different from what Amorim has done?

Tell me how he did it. Where is the evidence? Also, do you actually think that 6-7 months is enough to give up on a young player?

eph12:
So what's your solution?

We should not sell him now. Give him one more season, let him come off the bench and learn overtime. He started as a sub and did really well until we started relying on him for chances and goals upfront.

KingTom:
No o no be so I talk o see my hand for up ooo I'm only mentioning Weghorst to buttress my learned colleague's point on decoy strikers because when nobody sabi decoy role pass Weghorst

Give these guys 5-10 matches into the season. You will start hearing unbelievable stuff about the players we just signed. They will tell you that we need an overhaul. It’s the same players since the days of Mourinho. Ineos is an audio billionaire etc. watch!

patrickmuf:
Why are you wasting your time?

Some of you are pretty interesting. Either your way or the highway. Anyone not regurgitating, rechewing and reswallowing your vomits with you are enemies and time wasters.

eph12:
So do you know what steps have been taken in the case of Garnacho? What has Garnacho reaction been to this discipline? Has he shown that he has learned some lesson and ready to play for the manager?

No one knows until we get access to last season’s training sessions etc. Amorim took over last November, no? That’s 6-7 months of managing the team, which is too short for conclusions and the decision to sell Garnacho.

eph12:
How will you rate the transfer window? Do you think we're getting better players and addressing key issues in the team?

IMO, it’s been great. Although we’ve had ‘good’ and even better transfer windows several times in the past, and they all ended in complaints and gnashing of teeth because fans can never be satisfied. Watch how tables will be turned very soon.

Only issue I have is the fees for the players, especially Sesko and Mbeumo. But it’s okay, hoping things go well.

eph12:
Not that the players needed some sort discipline and to be put in their place?

If a player needs to be disciplined, then go ahead and do so. Selling is the last resort especially for a young player like Ganarcho. We know how other managers manage situations like this. You don’t immediately sell young players because of immaturity, you try to get them on track first and if after some time it does not work you discard.

Rashford and Sancho cases are understandable.

larride:
nitrogen swore with his life that everything was okay.

If I call thunder now, them go say I be bad person.

When did I say everything was okay?

chrisley024:
I don't even think it's necessary cuz who will be Cunha's backup? Except he has disagreed to be on the bench

It’s absolutely unnecessary. It seems Amorin has decided to just sacrifice players.

eph12:
I thought nitrogen said we're broke?

Yes we are. You will see the impact of all these transfers on our financials very soon. You forgot all the cost savings measures that you guys were complaining about.

Meanwhile, the upgrades at Carrington were planned since 2021. They only implemented in 2024 because the council approved the plan in 2023 or so.

larride:
E remain small, I go soon block nitrogen sef. I no wan dey read nonsense post.

Na you dey post nonsense na. You actually think that selling Ganarcho to Chelsea makes any sense? Wow!

Selling Garnacho will be a mistake.