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Trevor012:
United fans that are confused. The ball playing goalkeeper they wanted they have turned on 😂. Werey people that they were shouting "We need a destroyer in midfield, We need a pure destroyer in midfield" Same clowns turned against Casemiro and they are already turning against Ugarte. The same people crying for a goalscorer will turn against the striker with useless excuse like " He is holding our other attackers back, he does not press or drop deep, players are always passing to him, he is taking too much shots" lmao. This fanbase is confused 😂😂

It’s insane. Ugarte is a destroyer. We know he is not too technical but we wanted a DM that is quite physical while the CMs and AMs do their technical stuff. Now our fans are beginning to question his acquisition. We want the full package. How many ‘full package’ DMs exist then and today?

Bombblacks:
There's no Epl player with 10% physicality.

You have created a scenario of Fred and Eriksen in midfield which never happened. Like I said stop creating false narrative.

Have we bought different profiles of midfielder over the years. Yes or No?

Naso dem dey do. At this point, we should go get Aliens to come play for Man Utd. I don’t know why almost all 11 players on the pitch should be perfect.

Fact is we have bought good players in the past. Our midfield has seen several great players from Matic to Pogba to Herrera. All our transfers can be found here - https://www.transfermarkt.us/manchester-united/alletransfers/verein/985

Whether we overpaid or not is an unrelated question.

afrodoc:
My post about Yamal that you referred to was not in any way asking them to keep a manager for 1-3 years. I was only saying i will not be impressed by any footballer coming into this club again based on what the player has done elsewhere, because we have seen many people come here and fail.

The same applies to managers too. And directors etc. All that hype new players, manager, owners get here should stop. Until we see what they can do FOR THE CLUB and IN THE CLUB, i am not moved.

But in your desperation and rush to act contrarian and run everything as agenda, you will add the debate of 10 years ago and that of 10 minutes ago together and confuse yourself.

And to your question about whether they bought good or better players. The answer is no. They did not. When the whole league was moving towards players that combined high level physicality and high-level technicality we kept on buying players that were too weak or too slow or struggled to control the ball. Just look at the way the Newcastle that physically bullied us a few days ago was physically bullied by Aton Villa.

And you should not look at things in isolation. By wasting huge money on useless or inadequate players it has now tied our hands in the transfer market as we can't spend as much as we would like to. A 20million player might be a good player but if you buy him for 80m you are failing at your duty. If you repeat it from 4-5 players, you are putting your club's future at risk.

It is crucial that we not only buy good players but at a good price, so that if they fail, they do not handicap the club's future.

Stop combining arguments of 10 years together like someone cooking edikaikong. I was talking about us not hyping people before they come into the club. I don't know where you and your coven turned it into not sacking underperforming manager. I have no affiliation to Amorin. Even when we signed him i was asking people here to tell us more about his style before i now went to watch videos on him.

Oh my! I mentioned Yamal out of the blues given he is arguably the best young player today. Now I know what’s going on.

Regarding the players bought over the years, I believe it has been the right mix of technicality and physicality. You can’t have the best of both worlds. We’ve had a good mix of technical and physical attackers, midfielders and defenders over the last 10 years, no?

If we had not spent the huge funds for player acquisitions, fans would still have complained that we did not spend like Chelsea and City who were our competition. Where do you want to see top or even average player to buy for 10-30m? Including 10 years ago. Also, the funds would have gone to other things.

I made ref to managers because you said the excuse that these players were doing well previously also applies to manager signings. Yes it is true, and I am telling you that they got good managers (same way they got good players), it just did not work in some instances and the reasonable thing that should and would always happen is to sack the manager vs a group of relatively new players given the economic and financial consequences.

afrodoc:
Do our scouts and board buy well?

Let's leave the confusion in your mind when the same board that according to you keeps hiring the wrong coaches is somehow managing to buy the right players.

We said no to Toni Kroos when Moyes wanted him and got Fellaini instead.

When Gabriel Barbosa and Gabriel Jesus were available, we tried to get Barbosa while Jesus went to City. Barbosa finally came to Europe and failed quickly before heading back to Brazil.

When Antony and Raphinha were available we paid 82m for Antony while Raphinha went to Barca for 50m.

We bought AWB (a RIGHTBACK o) who was obviously never going to be a top-level footballer for 50m. We bought Maguire a molue-slow CB from a lower level EPL team for 80m. This was YEARS ago, and even now top-level strikers are still going for 60-70m. But we bought 2 mediocre defenders for 130m.

If we have been appointing the wrong coaches for years, then we have also been buying the wrong players for years. People here keep talking about how the players can't be bad since they were doing well at their previous clubs before coming here. Well, that excuse can also be made for the managers. They also were doing well in their previous clubs before coming here.

My point was that fans should not get too giddy over any new signing based off reputation until they show us their quality in our club, but you and your coven of contrarian spirits must always find something to complain about.

Question is did they on average buy good/better players over the years or not? Whether the prices make sense or not would depend on perspectives, not forgetting the level of desperation from top to bottom to return to glory days. We can argue price vs valuation from today till tomorrow, but the main point is at the time of purchasing the players irrespective of prices, they bought good players.

I agree that the excuse can be made for managers signed. Yes, they made some mistakes, but they also went for better to the best managers available. It just did not work in some instances and firing underperforming managers (which by the way does not mean they are bad managers, it just did not work) is normal as it’s easier to do than to fire majority of new players. Other clubs do it, so why should we be sticking with underperforming managers for more than 1-3 years (depending on the circumstances)? With salaries and termination costs, each manager barely scratch 50m. While buying one player could cost us close to that on average.

adisaaowala:
Players we swore to be significantly better than ours..time to buy them reach, story begin enter

Naso now. After buying, they will start saying our scouts and board don’t buy well. We should have gone for a player like Yamal.

Jamiuokolaa:
It has been a disastrous performance from Amorim...

For better context, Vitor Pereira, his Portugese brother, joined Wolves only in December

Seems Wolves squad is better. Don’t worry. We will win Europa league and buy Amorim’s players for him so we can start winning league games.

CrystalTiger:
If the clubs summer budget is $100m, it should just go to the forward line.. We can't head into the season with this forwards..

There is no budget without UCL football.

Debroslink:
Be careful and stay humble

Bilbao stadium is hosting the final

They have Man Utd home and away last time out.

They are currently top 4 on the table.

Leave them na. Even when Man Utd was a complete side during Ferguson’s time, we struggled against Spanish sides including Bilbao.

This game broke many records.

Delusional fans expecting another comeback?

The way Wolves keep attacking after scoring the goal. Imagine! Shey dem no suppose park bus? We don suffer!

Reason UCL qualification is very key for us.

afrodoc2:

His matter don tire me. He needs sunlight.

Oasis007:


......do I need to spell it out so plainly for you to understand?! LOL!

The main difference between Manchester United and Southampton this season is Amorim. We’re just lucky to have him; otherwise, we’d be fighting for 20th place alongside Southampton. LOL!

This is a joke, right? Abeg stop typing. Go and touch grass outside.

Oasis007:


......you eagerly sharpening your knive, waiting for the final whistle to unleash that wack dish you call analysis, but disappointment struck. LOL!

It must sting to have your mediocre draft rendered useless, right?! LOL!

But he got you on this one sha, make i no lie. Putting Maguire upfront in the dying minutes of a game we needed to win at all costs is not tactical acumen. Pulis wouldn’t have thought twice before doing it.

Bombblacks:
I really don't understand you lot. One minute the players are not good enough to win the likes of Ipswich and Fulham while the next you want the same below average players to win the Europa. How is that going to happen if the players cannot start for Southampton like some said. Like I have said countless times Amorim has performed below par with the players at his disposal. The squad is capable of winning the Europa league and even finishing at least in the top ten. When we ask for results to improve you all said it's short term gain for long term failure. I didn't see anyone complaining about the win we had yesterday.

Please say it and tell them again and again. The team can do way better. Amorim needs to do better.

Leyqute:
You don delete drafts

Drafts for where? I guess you were not here when I said we would beat Lyon. If I had drafts, I would have dropped them when we were 2 goals behind. Abeg shift!

Meanwhile, Ancelotti will be available by end of this month. I believe that’s the kind of manager we need.

I kuku said it here that we would beat Lyon. But we won’t win the Europa League, unfortunately. How do we plan to survive against Athletic Club and/or Tottenham? Not happening.

patrickmuf:
Chelsea will finish 5th and qualify for the UCL but after we win the Europa League, they'll be sent to the UEL.

We want to use our own to scatter Chelsea’s parole. Lool.

eph12:
I still don't understand how some of you still think we can win this europa

As in. They are really optimistic.

Jamiuokolaa:
Ah

Is this correct?

Yes. Infact, we were 4 points to top 3 at the time Amorim took over. See below my post on Nov 10 or so.

nitrogen:
It’s 4 points between third position and Utd. We can actually be up there in before Xmas, if Amorin hits the ground running. The interim has done well.

Oasis007:


....will they admit they reacted too early and misjudged Amorim if he delivers next season?!

Will they apologize to everyone on this board for making it seem like Amorim is not the right man for the job and that the players at his disposal are good enough?!

Of course, infact, that’s the prayer. I want to be proved and judged wrong as long as we are winning. At this time, there is no hope. It’s been over 30 matches. Should we wait until he manages 100 games and we sign 12 aliens before we see any progress.

Jamiuokolaa:
As in ehn

The way they have depicted 3-4-3 as a formation that can only be implemented with players from Jupiter eh

Below is a part of the team Conte finished 4th with at Spurs...

The same Reguilón wey we Chase comot - If to say he still dey here, the story would be that he doesnt have the heart, lungs, Liver and Chest to play as a WB and would probably be one of the scapegoats for our current 14th position

People are saying it’s unfair to judge Amorim until he gets his so called specialists to implement his system. We actually got him to come salvage our season because we were only four points from top 4. Let’s forget about the 14,13,17th positions for a bit, Baba for just keep try to keep us at the same level. Today, we are almost 20 points from top 4.

It’s absolutely unacceptable!

Goosethetruth:
The manager has on his own decided to complicate issues by creating this myth of magical players to execute a magical system.
You can't shoe horn yourself into a rigid formula and then blame the players in the team when they can't execute your magical system.

I worry for United on Thursday.
Lyon must be relishing this Europa game seeing that we lost at away yesterday and the won at away in their league yesterday.

I believe we’ll beat Lyon on Thursday. But we won’t win Europa and that will be really really bad for us. We need to play in Europe next season otherwise Amorim won’t get his magical players which might result in a relegation. Although this team can make at least top 10 with a better manager. Fingers crossed sha!

Like someone said, we need a manager that will dig us out of the trenches.

I heard our worse league points is 58 points. We are currently 38 points. Lool.

3-4-3 improved FC. 42% win rate. It’s the players, we will get him his players next season.

Jamiuokolaa:
We seemed to have collapsed completely...especially after we conceded the 2nd goal. Aside the individual mistakes, we didn't really look like we were interested in getting anything out of the game tbh.

I hope the negative press and backlash that would accompany this defeat no go affect our preparations and performance vs Lyon.

One step forward, two steps backwards is really frustrating tbh

This team is better than where we are on the log. It’s absolutely shyte! It’s going to be the same performance next week, month, year and decade unless we change the manager. He keeps wasting our time every fuvking week!

Jamiuokolaa:
We were actually a bit competitive...prior to those individual mistakes that led to those goals.

If we crash out of Europa, these boys wey I dey see go down tools completely and 15th position talk go begin enter again.

Nawa o

You say? Newcastle were just observing us. They gave it as e dey hot in the second half. To think their manager is not in the stadium and our own tactical manager was pacing upandan on the sidelines.

We should continue!

Our play has really improved, we just need Osimhen to come and be scoring the chances.

Man Utd fans don suffer. Chopping defeat every week like say na staple food. Amorim is doing well, 2 months left to give him his players.

See as Shaw dey shake yansh for pitch. Baba don big! God of mercy!

I don’t know why he is also trying to play from the back. WTF!