Captain8:
hahaha is it igbo you talking about or another tribe? the most weak tribes are igbo and yoruba....

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MuttleyLaff:
I was just pointing out something that rings true about truth but I am seeing you're taking my comment the wrong way. Truth is where salvation can be found my dear friend and the truth you failed to embrace today, will expose you tomorrow.

What indoctrination would this be please?

Your bible is not the truth, we know that for sure.

There’s the bible truth, and there’s THE TRUTH, they’re not the same thing.

About your indoctrination, you know exactly what tgat is lmao.

MuttleyLaff:
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People don't like the truth.
The truth doesn't taste good and won't stay down when it's a belly full of lies.

I agree, the truth hurts, that’s why you’re refusing to understand you’re just merely indoctrinated.

VBCampaign:


Thanks for the compliment. Thank you for also getting the message.

No problem you’re welcomed!

I sure get the message that god of Israel is a scam bestowed unto Africans.

VBCampaign:


You should understand that your life philosophy, irreligion, is as much your right as those who choose to be religious. But when you disparage religious people in general, you leave yourself to scorn also.

The thread is not criticizing religion. It is criticizing false religion.

Wow, coming from someone who believes that everyone else, who doesn’t believe is hell bound, that’s rich, coming from you.

Seeing as your religion also was spread through violence, please, turn the mirror on yourselves first.

VBCampaign:


Both religious and irreligious people sin - at the same rate.

But the man in Christ has all his sins forgiven.

That's the difference.

That's the gospel.

That's our hope.

And who the heck cares, if you want, let Jesus come and die again, this time forever, no one cares.

The person that created sin, is the biggest dinner, who forgives him/her? God’s creator forgives god I guess.

Religious people, so obsessed with sin yet they sin pass.

MuttleyLaff:
"One day, Jesus told His disciples a story,
to show that they should always pray and never give up"
- Luke 18:1

Therefore confess your sins to each other,
pray for each other, so that you may be healed.
The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective"
- James 5:16

The point is, we ought to continually be praying for Nigeria, to confess her sins, so for anticipated and/or expected change to happen dahling,

Akuko ifo( story story story)

Nigeria sins? Lmao. You religious lot are hilarious.

MuttleyLaff:
Thank you. I thought as much, but didn't want to take the guess. Just continue to pray for the man, his missus and grown up kids too.

What’s the point in continuing to pray for him etc? You’ve been continually praying for Nigeria, what’s the point? For change to happen, action should and must be taken.

No wonder you literally have to be a sheep to follow this religion period.

Truthfullone:
The third part is equally as sad and the lowest of the low, so I'll deal with that and ask some thought provoking questions to you all. After the so called healings have died down and it's time for the word, if only others could see the faces of those at the healing school. Dejected and confused as to what really is happening, with the very essence of their faith hanging in the balance, they are then gathered into the hall. The sick are told that when pastor lays hands on you, the anointing abides forever, so it's in you for life. It is always stated that no one can come back to the healing school in life again. Similar to the once saved always saved doctrine, you can say once touched by pastor Chris, you're forever loaded. Tales of how people got healed as they left the venue were told to the depressed healing school participants who were now getting worried. Stories of how people received healings weeks after pastor Chris laid hands on them were repeated by Dele, Shola and co. I have to say these are some of the lowest of the low of life there is on earth. The sick are then told they need to keep confessing, speaking in tongues and also see themselves as healed. They are told the best way to see themselves as healed is to make a video of themselves healed, watch it daily and confess in prayers to God. Father God, the same way I see myself as healed in this video, I claim it. Call things that be not as though they were. Those who had polio were told to walk as they normally would, which is crooked, and then to walk as though they were healed, bending their body upright as much as they could and celebrating after walking upright as healed. They did the same with a man blind in one eye, they gave him a set of numbers to remember, got him to read those numbers with his good eye, memorise them, then close the good eye and act as though he could read what was being shown to him. He did just that, while those cameras were blazing, and then he acted as if both his eyes were good he celebrates afterwards. Those with partial hearing who pastor Chris had prayed for etc, also went through the same process. No completely blind person was prayed for by him, as it doesn't suit the script and hence them not qualifying for graduation.

We were told this was a video of faith, and this would be sent to people via DHL within a few days, to help with confessions and faith proclamations. All of a sudden about two weeks after, my phone began to ring, as those videos were all aired on loveworld as genuine healings.

So there you have the fullness of the scam at CE. Never thought I'll bring myself to write about it, but when you've received total healing, you are able to speak about such. Three videos all shot and when required, brought up against those who try and expose them. Have you noticed most ministries have a so called video of people who speak against them?? Just asking.

So here you have it.

First video

The person comes to the healing school, with their own mouth, they are shown stating they are sick, they state where they are from etc and what they want.

Second video

Pastor Chris comes in, lays hands on the victim, he falls as people are told loads of times at the school, he or she gets up, is caught on video jubilating and waving Thier hands shouting they are healed.


Third video

The person showing to the world that the are healed via video of faith they were meant to make to help them see themselves as healed.

If a victim comes up, he or she would be asked simple questions by those who are swayed by the media might of CE. But I thought I saw you on TV, you said you were sick (1st video), pastor came in and laid hands on you and you fell and stood up jumping all over the place (2nd video), and you also showed a demonstration of your healing? (third video)



Have Christ Embassy members ever wondered why pastor Chris cannot minister effectively at any other church? Recently he's been with pastor Hinn in America at his California studio and not a single miracle there? He really has an atmosphere for miracles as I can boldly say they are fake and staged. What sort of Evangelist never has meetings in countries where the system to scam others isn't set up? Have you ever heard of pastor Chris waking up and going to a country where there is no Christ embassy to preach?? He cannot as he doesn't have the setting to scam people. Reinhard Bonnke goes and has been to everywhere there is on earth until he died, same with Hinn, Morris Cerullo etc.

If I was paid to have 5 minutes with this man, I wouldn't. Most of you folks who are at Christ embassy are actually nice, I've had friends from there over the years, but the blindness in following is astounding. Recently you had Hinn around, how many of you could go to a Hinn meeting had he not been opened up to you recently by your GO??

Jesus said go into the world, not countries with Christ embassy church where 80% of people at the meeting are CE members. From members buying Thier rapsodies and giving out free and saying it's the most bought book on earth, which is funny, to other nonsense, you couldn't make it up. When you follow the trail, it always leads down to finances. Finances that 99.9% of church members would never get to see the dinner workings and yet will defend with their lives. From dodgey accounts in the virgin islands, to malpractices in the uk, and talk of sexual deprevity with daily members and female members in South Africa, the list goes on.

Some would argue that certain stones are best left untouched, but put yourself in the position of those who have been affected by this scam. A number of those who were scammed off died not long after in miserly. For some, it is like an old widow who thinks her late husband was the best man on earth, not knowing he had many women at the side and kids. Do you let her enjoy her bliss and utopia and carry on till death, or do you burst that bubble and burst that none existent image the man had with people? Do you look at the wife while making your decision, or the other innocent victims? That's exactly the case with CE.

Go round your branches and show me those who have been gloriously healed that are in attendance? There are simply none anywhere.

How many of you here could scam other this way? We as Christians, we sometimes look at others with the eyes of our innocence, which can be dangerous.

For those who think it's all a story of gloom and doom, by God's awesome grace I've moved on to a greater ministry that CE couldn't even compare to. Wake up folks at CE, ask real questions for once in your life and stop morphing to give excuses at each phase serious answers are needed from your ministry. There are hundreds of abused people walking the earth right now without anyone to even talk to, who have been taken advantage of by CE. I've moved on to a position of ministry only some would dream of and ministry is awesomely beautiful when truly seen. In talking of levels some of you would shudder at if you know what levels, without going into details for many reasons.. privacy, security etc.

Graysons:


Igbo people should stay in Igbo land

You can't be calling my place zoo,but keep coming to the same place and be building house there.
That's just pure stupidity.

Stay in these east which is non zoo enjoyed it don't run away from it.

Stop coming to do zoo we don't want you here, we don't need you here.

It is Simple as A.B.C.

Igbo people should not and must not stay at home. They must get their own country and still be able to travel, all over Nigeria.

There are many other nationalities in Nigeria, and many other tribes in igboland as I’m sure you know.

Dividing the country is the best case scenario, then you can decide to give igbos visa or not.

Graysons:
Igbos are just dumb and stupid at the same time
You shout Nigeria is zoo and all.But you keep running away from the east why not stay in the east where you belong? 90% of igbos are not even in the East.

Crazy people.

You’re being too emotional, use the hatred for ndi igbo to allow them have a country of their own and then you can dictate who gets visa into your country Nigeria.

What do you think? It’s like saying the Scots are all over London lol.

YungMillionaire:


Who is holding Igbos from going? The last time the Hausas gave you permission to moved back to the SE, your elders sent delegation to go and beg and some of your people were claiming Northern Igbos. Nobody is holding you. The opposition to Biafra is Igbos themselves.

When Scotland lives Britain, do you think the youths will tell the shots to leave or be killed?

This is why some call Nigerian zoo country, because of how, many within it think.

You don’t just ask a group to return to their area, if the owner house in another.

See EU for example with Britain. Let’s not behave like animals, we need to negotiate these things.

When I say, let the igbos go, I mean, formally to form their own country and so that the real Nigeria can be united and prosper.

I truly believe that a divided nation can not stand.

Nigeria with igbos as part of the country, can never amount to anything.

All the people harassing igbos are hilarious. UK is leaving the eu, yet, they’ll still trade, live and work in other areas.

Those saying igbos should leave the houses the built in the former capitals of the country are ridiculous and uneducated, surely.

Scotland might end up living the Uk, you’ll never see British people telling them to abandon their London properties, because those properties have been paid for lol.

Wanting to rule one’s self is a right. Why the bad blood, igbos are clearly never gonna be one true Nigerians, better to let them go peacefully and be nice neighbours like we are with Ghana for instance.

Are you lot keeping igbos as Nigerians, out of spite?

Be proud of Nigeria, let the igbos go, so you can have a United Nation.

donnie:


2 Corinthians 5:10 "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad."

The bible isn’t the only book available on planet earth dear. Some believe in reincarnation.

donnie:


That's what's important. Everyone will stand alone, not under any category.

And only the righteousness of God will be accepted... No self righteousnessness.

How do you know that everyone will stand before god?

Egoboyo:
Sir John,

I really feel pity for you, are you doubting the holyspirit?

Well, may be your salvation should be looked into


Do you think you don't need cooperation of people to heal them?

You think you just pray for them and they remain heal without knowing g biblical principles to retain it?

That do need to talk God word to them.and see those that have believed.

Well I've seen someone after many years that retained his healing because he came to understand his right in the word of God..


I don't blame you, how much do you think u have giving ? Who forced u? Cause I see u r pained by it..


Thank u for telling me the mentors of Pastor Chris..

If u think its beans, go and open ur own without the holyspirit and see..

brainwashed much?

petra1:


If you think it's fake Watch this leg cancer healed instantly


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXM960QtnXQ

Lmao, if you believe that, you must be the most gullible person on planet earth. Lmao

cascarino:
These are the type of people that oppose Kanu while claiming they are 'sensible Ibos'. They don't even know that it is the responsibility of the government to provide them with all the aforementioned social amenities.

Is it Kanu that's drilling the oil in your country? Is it Kanu that collects taxes, fines and Levis from the citizens? Isi odikwa gi Mma?

I love how you asked him/her, isi odikwa gi nma.

mcsnip:
The almighty turkey that was 100% christian later turned to 100% muslim i come be igbo nai dier own go hard lie! me im i not igbo but im happily muslim, we shall overcome

Overcome your poverty first.

salykely:


True talk we Muslims also recognize the alliance between Christians and Pagans. U both worship gods. Co polytheist

Any sane person will prefer a snake sef, compared to anything to do with Islam.

Islam? Tufiakwa

GoroTango:
Most of us northerners are not enjoying a better life as compared to you Igbos, but how come you guys are the ones doing the most complaining?

Because most of us don't want to belong in the same country as you.

vaxx:
in my own opinion. this is what should be done.

we have great minds among us. wole Soyinka for example can be our voice or many other intellectuals who are not afraid to tell Nigerians whom they are.

public lecture and seminar can work .....people need to unlearn what they had learn . so that misconception can be removed. this is when society we accept us.

A well organize debate on the topic should be sponsor in our universities... research can be conducted on it.


we should have a representative at the senate level and house of rep . who will be willing to fight for our right just like abrahimic religion. for example we also deserve a public holiday.


just to mention some point.

Lol goodluck with tgat, it's so ingrained it's like cancer. When you tell them you don't believe in what they believe in, they look at you as if you're from planet Jupiter.

For me, I love it and find it fun to engage them because, they're like robots and spew the same things over and over again, in the end, most accept they could be wrong but also say, it's all the know.

vaxx:
I will rather prefer the word Africa traditional faithful.

Me too.

These foreign religions were use to subdue us and make us feel worthless, illiterate and in the dark. For me I disagree, the ones in darkness are the ones that follow these religions without questions, in fact, it's an abomination to question their god or gods.

I'll call them out and think for myself. Before Christianity came, we knew right and wrong and believes in treating people the way we want them to treat us.

Can you believe that in my Villiage, they took down this huge tree that's been there for goodness knows how long because some people might worship it?

What the heck is that about? These church people are now hooligans masquerading as deliverers. A beautiful tree that gave character and history to my village gone forever, and a gaping space left in its place because some people might worship it? Lmao
Even the white people tgat brought the religion to them will preserve this tree find out how many thousands of years old it is, noooo we destroy it to prove that Jesus is king. Tufiakwa

Man I tire for how they reason.

vaxx:
yes dear , atheism is also an imported idea

I'm not an atheist, so add it to the list then. We must defeat religion.

Patheos:
All of una wey dey call Igbo Ibo shud be ashamed of urselves

Onwe ka odi. Ha anaghi gb ekwu

Guys, would you support an Igbo Language section?

Isn't igbo language dying, no one can write or speak it anymore.

Well at least those under 15years old lol

Lexusgs430:


Like a class action?
Is Arik Air out of administration?

don't know

Hmm! Insightful

I challenge all the imported religions in Africa!