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if only you would recognise that everything about Mary is about Jesus.
Everything about a mother is about the child, just ask a mother.

, Mother, Child,

Typical example of using the "wisdom of man and tradition of man" to try to justify ur belief, even though its not biblical.

Let me remind you that it doesn't matter what the Catholic church "SAY" about Mary, what matters is what is what they are doing about Mary, just like it what mattered to God was that the Isrealites worshipped GRAVEN IMAGE (just like catholics worship, pray to and honours images/statue of things they call Mary, Jesus et al. )

God made it clear that should not WORSHIP OR PRAY TO NOBODY ELSE EXCEPT GOD, (even Jesus Christ Himself INTSTRUCTED US to pray that Our Father Who art in Heaven, )so whether or not the catholic church tell the truth about the worship of Mary and others things or not is irrelevant, simply because ACTIONS SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS.

Another point to make is that Chastity ring is not necessary for u to keep urself till marriage for whoever your husband is going to be. Its not the works of righteousness that matter, its the intent and purpose of the heart that matter, u can abstain from sex without need for chastity ring.
Chastity ring is just another example of SYMBOLISM (which in itself is not biblical).

At this point i must say that i rest my case , cus its not my duty to argue or dilly dally about issues, my duty is to spread the Gospel, (which God sees me that i have tried to do as concerns you.)

The tradition of men is WORTHLESS, so whether or not catholic church has been doing something for thousands of years does not matter , what is wrong is still wrong,
thousands of years going in the wrong direction still does not matter it right, infact the further u go in the wrong direction, the more difficult it becomes to come to the starting point or the right direction.

By the way am not asking u to be protestant or pentecostal, denomination is irrelevant, in the big scheme of things, what matters is the following and more:

1. Are u born again (just like Jesus told Nicodemus).
2. Do you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour.
3. Do you pray to ONLY GOD.
4. Do you believe Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to GOD.


As the yoruba's say , "Aja to bama sonu, ko kin gbo fere Olodee, ", So am sorry to say that i rest my case , as concerns you.

I sincerely pray that ABOVE ALL THINGS, GOD WOULD BRING YOU TO THE FULLNESS OF HIS GRACE AND MERCY SO THAT YOU'LL SEE THE ERRORS IN YOUR WAYS AND BELIEVE , AND COME BACK TO CHRIST.

God bless.

@Lady -

First and foremost , congratulations, cus i can see that u are already married.

U can get across to me via No2Atheism@gmail.com in case u have questions (on strictly Spiritual Christian Issues) to ask about, but which u don't want to ask on nairaland due to privacy.

Ok that's all fine and dandy but why did he have prophecies of His Son being born of a woman. Why a woman? We know he'll keep his word, but why is his word that Christ would be born of a woman?
Why wasn't his word that he will create from dirt the New ADAM as he created the Old Adam, that would have accomplished the same goal.
Eve was the mother of the living, well ADAM was a living being but Eve wasn't his mother, so if God is to have a New Adam why not have him come to the world as the Old Adam?

Wooow,

Ur statements and questions are both sad and jaw dropping , simply because the kind of question u are asking , is similar to you asking the question "why did God create Eve, " "Why didn't God not create Eve so that Eve would not give Adam the forbidden fruit".

God does not need to tell us everything, God only tells us what we need to know, "He Himself said He would supply our needs (material, knowledge and everyother thing)" according to HIS RICHES in GLORY IN CHRIST JESUS.

So to be frank the kind of question u are asking is completely irrelevant, it just smells and sounds like u are simply looking for evidence for the worship of Mary, WHERE THERE IS NO EVIDENCE.

Am sorry to say that the sadness surrounding the kind of question u are asking in response to my post is simply obvious if u take the time to please please please go through this bible verse below:


Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.


On a serious note , please please i beg u @Lady, allow God to minister to your heart, do not take the words of men (Catholic church et al) over the Word of God (Bible) ,

The Word of God is ALWAYS True no matter the reputation or number of people who say otherwise.

From experience its is not always easy going against popular opinion or establishment, as such i understand that it can be disconcerting and difficult for you to comprehend the fact that the Catholic church is doing things which clearly go against the bible.

For example:
Abraham was instructed to sacrifise covenant SON ISAAC, (every logic of man would have told Abraham not to obey God , simply because such an instruction did not make sense if one considers the TRADITION OF MEN).

So please Lady, i am sincerely begging you in the name of Jesus Christ, please take time out to pray and ask God to save you and open your eyes , so that you'll know who's lying, It is written that we should be as Bereans Christians , in that we should search the scriptures to make sure what we hear or are told is true and in agreement with the Bible.

Also for example:

The bible clearly says that God created "the Universe as we know it" in SIX LITERAL DAYS, yet the Catholic church says they believe in "Evolution", ( ),

@Lady u asked that

18) Why did he have to come from the womb of a woman?

Well Jesus was born of a woman simply because:

1. God ALWAYS keeps His Word,
2. God has already called and given HIS WORD Eve the mother of all living, (so technically Jesus Christ had to born into the World, for Him to exist in our physical realm)
3. God has already declared and given HIS WORD that a woman was going to give birth to the Messiah that's going to trample upon the head of the serpent (Check the book of Genesis just after the fall of man.)
3. So Jesus did not just drop from heaven or materialise out of nothing simply because , HIS BIRTH VIA THE WOMAN (MARY IN THIS CASE) IS A FUFILLMENT OF PROPHESY/WORD, that God has already declared in Genesis.


@Lady, nawa , I pray God would save ur soul before u get to the point of no return in terms of catholism, abeg before u go too far in the belly of the beast, pls remember that its written that :

Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. )

Madam MayKelly, hello.

Devlisha nd lying soul!

Haba Olabowale, as usual u have resorted to name callin all over again, LOL, typical ways of the world and children of Lucifer.

Off course "If u can't suppress the truth , kill the messenger" (just like ur muuslim brothers are doing), so here u are, calling me names , wen its actually isslam that permits lying for the sake of Alllah and Isslam.

Anyway sha, i don't really have time to be bantering about wit u,

U already know the truth (about Salvation through ONLY JESUS CHRIST), whether it sets u free or not is another issue entirely (although i pray that u are saved b4 u lose ur soul), its not my job to convince or convert you, that's the job of the Holy Spirit. Mine is only to pass on the necessary information of the Good News of Jesus Christ.

Generations and years of killing and maiming and suppression of truth still would not remove the fact that:

1. ISSLAM is a lie
2. Mohammmed is a false prophet.
3. Alllah is a moon god.
4. Mohammmed desperately wanted the title of a prophet at all cost even at the cost of killing people or jews that show that he's lying.
5. Jesus I know, Moses I know, Elijah I know but Mohammmed i don't know,
6. Jesus sent the Comforter (the HOLY SPIRIT), after HE had already fufilled all the prophecies spoken of Him before by all the old testament prophets (who are the actual true Prophets in this case).
7. No biblical prophet suferred from demonic affliction yet Mohammmed himself was a nutcase example of spiritual madness, sexual orgy and demonic possession.
8. JESUS CHRIST himself said "I am the way, the truth and the life, NO ONE (NOT EVEN MOHAMMMED) cometh to the FATHER except through ME (i.e. except through HIM JESUS CHRIST)", hence it basically means Mohammmed himself must be born again to be saved.

Whether or not u accept the Lord Jesus Christ as ur Lord and Saviour is left to God (God Abraham, Isaac and Jacob) to determine, as far as am concerned, issllam would always go the way of baal, drago, sun worshippers. Cus anything built on falsehood can only last as long as God (God Abraham, Isaac and Jacob) permits,

Praise be to God (God Abraham, Isaac and Jacob) that the Devil has only but a little time, hence he's going to and fro "killing, stealing, maiming and destroying people and souls" through isslam, hinduism, catholism, buddism, religion of evolution etc. Glory be to God (God Abraham, Isaac and Jacob) in due time would show forth He's power and might and bring all schemes and evil intentions of the enemy to naught.

The Earth is the Lord's and everything in it, as such God (God Abraham, Isaac and Jacob) does not need to tell people to fight for Him to claim the Earth (contrary to how Alllah is so desperate to make u muuslims to fight and kill urself for him so that he'l try and take control of the earth through you his pawns) simply because HE (God Abraham, Isaac and Jacob) already owns the Earth as such HE does not need to fight for it again.

Lord God Almighty (God Abraham, Isaac and Jacob) has told us Christians to be still and be at peace even as He fights our battles for us, contrary to Alllah who asks u to fight and die for him,

okay no probs, @pilgrim.1,

You are absolutely right, i also realised that constant argument with atheists and issllamists on nairaland on ended up increasing pride and anger in me, which is not good.

Rather (just like u did) what is said once as a testimony to Christ should be left as that so that the holyspirit can do His work in Them, cus ultimately nothing we say or do not say on nairaland can change them , unless the HolySpirit ministers to their hardened heart.

Your testimony as being a former muuslim is certainly something special , cus i understand the family pressures and persecutions that would ultimately come along with being saved by Jesus Christ.

Its interesting to see that you who was a terror in the worst way, against the Christian, while you are lying about the prophet is making the statement above! Allah's messenger stated that those who tell lies about him should take their place in Hellfire. Even lying about an ordinary human being deserves punishment.

hmm , Olabowale u are shooting urself in the foot,

Does that mean ur Alllah is talking from both sides of the same mouth wen ur Alllah stipulates that its permitted for muusslims to lie to non-muuslims so long as its for the benefit of iisslam,

Olabowale, in as much as i pray for your salvation through Christ, i also fear for your life because i know that your muusslim brothers and sisters would not even hesitate to try to kill you once they realise u are denouncing alllah,

A Saudi Arabian father killed his own daughter for becoming a christian.
A Palestinian son of a Hamas stalwart fled palestine because he became a Christian,

The list goes on,

The issues here is the soul of men,

The Devil via issllam and others wants to keep people in boundage, Christ via His goodnews wants to set people free,

The choice is urs ,

@pilgrim.1,

good to hear from you,

abeg pls keep trying to minister to all atheists and muslims and non-christians on this website.

I really thank God that u were saved from the cult of iissllam.

By the way u have not yet gisted me as to the details of the conversion, hope u'll do that soon.

I beleive ur testimony would be good.

Mc-Usman , the one and only individual who terrorised Seun, how are u doing hope u have not missed me too much.

Anyway sha, don't worry God would not let u go without being giving the opportunity to receive the joy and hope of salvation through Jesus Christ alone,

, Yu are loved even if u are tempted to seek to put a knife to my neck in the name of Alllah.

great saints (e.g., St. Augustine, St. Ignatius, St. Thomas, etc.),

Wow, mere men confereing empty mere titles on men who most probably,

First and foremost.

1. Peter is not and was not the first Pope.
2. Catholic church started years after Peter and co have already been crucified for the sake of Christ.
3. Even the apostles did not call confer the title of Saints on themselves.
4. Where in the bible is Mary to be worshipped or honoured by men.
5. Where in the bible is the establishment of a position of Pope.
6. Where in the bible is Rosary mentioned.
7. Where in the bible is Purgatory mentioned.
8. How can a man be saved according to the bible, then compare this with how a man is saved accord to catholism.
9. Did Jesus Christ appoint any man to his representative on earth.
10. Did Jesus Christ say that we should pray to a particular Saint or Man or Woman.
11. Is any man infallible.
12. Is the Pope a Man or a Spirit.
13. Is the Pope of God or the Devil.
14. Is the Pope fallible or not.
15. How do u know whether or not St. Augustine, St. Ignatius, St. Thomas are in Heaven or not,
16. Did Jesus Christ ask us to pray to those "Men or Angels " in heaven, or, did Jesus Christ ask us to pray to "Our Father who art in Heaven"

There are so many questiosn that a dogmatic followers of the cult of catholism ought to ask themselves just as Islaamists need to ask themselves similar questions about their life after death.

Its rather sad that each passing day brings us closer to the coming of Christ, (who i pray and hope that i'll reign with despite my inadequacies as a Born Christian).

@pilgrim.1

How have u been, longtime,

This is the former SYSUSER,SYSUSERX or WITNESS, (nairaland conspiracy to have me banned made me cus the name changes )

By the way u were completely offline for quite a while around April, hope all is well with u,

Egyptians are not Arabs, infact they were the coptic people, yet the Arabs invaded in the name of islam, took over the place , made it their own and start claiming themselves as Egyptians,

History and Archealogy shows that most Egyptians were most probably brown skinned in nature ,


Likewise the Assyrians, yes its true some Assyrians might be muslims after the coming of the false prophet moohaammed.

Still though its funny to realise that the Assyrians that are Christians are actually being forced out of their lands by the Arabs/Muslims which dominates the place.

The Devil would always show its true colours over time,

Once a liar always a liar,

Olabowale, yes i miss u tooo, LOL, ,

Don't worry "The Great False Prophet M.oha.mmad" has already done the deflowering of Aisha "The Jewel of Medina"

Olabowale, and co, how are u doing, long time no hear.

How's the Jewel of Medina , has she been deflowered yet,

Oh, i heard that either or both the Shia's and Sunni's are kicking out the Assyrian Christians (original landlords in Iraq), simply becus they are christians.

Hope u didn't miss me too much