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PoliticsRe: Is Hiv Aids A Biological Weapon Against Black People ? by No2Atheism(op): 4:44pm On Sep 07, 2009
oyb:
stop being a hypocrite - you have repeatedly tried to derail this thread with your snide references to Islam. why are you even bothering us? shebi your god spoke to you and told you jesus is black - ask him , instead of spamming the politics board with conspiracy theories that belong in the back page of the sun  tongue
oyb:
i trust our resident spammer  tongue

we all know that he actually believes that oyinbos 'created ' hiv. was he not the one going on about tuskgee airmen and biological warfare? when called out he retreats to the skirts of 'academic argument ' you should be ashamed of yourself - did you even read through the drivel you originally posted? if you did you would not have posted the embarrassing article in the first place.
Okay u have been heard now hop along . . .  grin grin grin or do i have to sprinkle you with islamic holy water  grin


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. . . . . One truly has to weep for Africa if family men like[b] oyb [/b]exhibit this level of historical ignorance and geo-political naivety . . . . . .  sad sad sad

For the record, in case other people want to know where i stand on this topic.


1. Yes i find what Boyd to be[b] very very very plausible [/b]going by historical precedents, current geo-politics and evidences presented by Boyd.

2. Yes i am guilty of prefering academic references and non-wikipedia references for the simple reason that its on record that organisations like the CIA have been caught red-handed editing Wikipedia information (probably for propanganda purpose). Hence if disinformation through wikipedia was not important, then CIA would not be doing it . . . as reported here . Hence common sense tells everyone that it means for matters of strict accuracy, wikipedia simply cannot be trusted (unless u are called oyb  grin grin grin grin).

Before you claim you don't believe that CIA was caught editing wikipedia, the following are pages reporting that same . . . knock yourself out.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6579

http://www.wired.com/politics/onlinerights/news/2007/08/wiki_tracker

[url]http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2007/08/14/the-cia-really-is-editing-wikipedia/[/url]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6947532.stm

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN1642896020070816



3. However if u take time to actually study the topic before responding, you would notice that it was presented in the form of a question (meaning that even though i find it plausible, nevertheless I am still a sceptic hence open to contrary opinions that can invalidate what Boyd said). Yes off course i understand that its your personal goal to oppose no2atheism since no2atheism does not believe in the crap of allah the moon god and mohammed the peadophile.


4. Yes the Messiah is Black deal with it . . . (ooops sorry that would mean islam cannot link the Bible to catholic idolatory since most of islams so called gripe is with catholism . . . my bad now i understand your gripe  grin grin grin) -  The Bible says so in black and white, i don't do dogmas i deal with historical and biblical facts. Anyone (and I seriously mean anyone) that says the Messiah is white can kindly show me the verse or verses of the bible that says so ( grin grin grin grin oops my bad there is none  grin grin grin grin).


5. Oyb heya sorry yes i know u want to strangle me or deal with me for being very blunt with islam, oops sorry no can do . . .

was he not the one going on about tuskgee airmen and biological warfare?
shocked shocked shocked shocked


6. I think u better break your fast earlier today, cus it seems hunger is making you confuse me with someone else 


7. Yes i don't completely support Boyd for the simple reason that i am not dogmatic, hence i am open to arguments that accurately show where and how he is wrong (THIS MEANS THAT I AM NOT DOGMATICALLY BELIEVING EVERYTHING HE HAS PRESENTED INSTEAD I AM WILLING AND ABLE TO CHANGE MY OWN PERSONAL CONCLUSION BASED ON CONTRARY EVIDENCE). Yet till now i am yet to see one from our esteemed wikitourist (oyb)  grin grin grin and others that seem to term as conspiracy, everything that shakes up their worldview.

FURTHER CONTRIBUTION TO THE THREAD IS WELCOMED . . .
PoliticsRe: Is Hiv Aids A Biological Weapon Against Black People ? by No2Atheism(op): 12:31pm On Sep 07, 2009
@others

1. Please i would be glad if this thread is not derailed.

2. Other people posting irrelevancy without really bringing anything to the table in terms of sound academic arguments, i would suggest you use other areas of nairaland to increase your post count instead of this thread.
Please i beg you, let this thread remain as a sound expose of how Boyd can be right or wrong.

Thank you
PoliticsRe: Is Hiv Aids A Biological Weapon Against Black People ? by No2Atheism(op): 12:22pm On Sep 07, 2009
[quote author=z-murda link=topic=319723.msg4495395#msg4495395 date=1252316784]Henry Kissinger was of Jewish descent and fleed the Nazi Germany


Ezekiel Emmanuel opposes euthanasia, which does not seem to conform with your arguments. Betsy McCaughey deliberately misrepresented the truth in this case. Such baseless arguments should not be put in place to malign people or to support arguments[/quote]Nice points, i welcome good arguments like these and not the melodrama that i have been seeing . . .

Betsy McCaughey deliberately misrepresented the truth in this case
Please can u expanciate more on the so called deliberate misrepresentation of the truth.

1. Which truth was misrepresented.
2. How was it misrepresented.
3. When was it misrepresented.
PoliticsRe: Is Hiv Aids A Biological Weapon Against Black People ? by No2Atheism(op): 12:20pm On Sep 07, 2009
oyb:
contrast this timeline with boyd graves timeline

http://www.gene.ch/gentech/2001/Feb/msg00017.html
some of the greater absurdities in the good dr boyd's report
1. Finally oyb is starting to use his thinking faculty and not a jihadic dogmatic mentality  grin grin grin.

2. A Few Good Questions . . . to which i have no answer, because I am not here to defend Boyd Greaves instead i want sound academic presentation as to how he could have been wrong . . . @oyb please remember i said academic argument not[b] wikitainment[/b].



note that there are NO documents corroborating all these highlighted claims.
Haba again u are starting to go off the bend . . . they are events wit date i.e. things that happened in time off which common sense says u can check with the Library of Congress as to whether or not those things actually happened geez do i have to do your thinking for you dooh  undecided undecided


http://www.population-security.org/28-APP2.html. the full  NSSM-200

just one excerpt from a very big document - wonder why the good doctor failed to provide actual excerpts from the fuhrer's plan  grin

so what was the fate of those thousands?
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1. More melodrama
2. Its an open secret that Kissinger does not hide his intentions . . . never knew you had become a PR for him.
3. " . . .  wonder why the good doctor failed to provide actual excerpts from the fuhrer's plan  grin . . . '' cough cough hmmm hmmm hmmm cough cough  grin grin grin. . . you just answered your own question here '' . . . just one excerpt from a very big document - . . .''
4. Hmm Hmm PR Oyb have you read the document that you are referring to  grin or did you just wikisearch it to find counter arguments  cheesy grin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS#History


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_AIDS
Please nooooooooooooooooooooooo  shocked shocked shocked shocked  not more quoting of wikipedia . . .  cry cry cry cry cry pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee  grin grin grin grin grin

shocked shocked shocked shocked coming from a guy who believes in allah and the quran , hmm i am not suprised. I would suggest you also include Microsoft Encarta while you are at it.

I was about to hail you , then gbam u did it again and I started losing respect for your statements the moment you started using Wikipedia again  shocked shocked shocked.

For goodness sake oyb how many times does it have to smack you in the head i.e. Wikipedia is not a reliable source to be quoted in matters of academic and historical accuracy.

For goodness sake excercise this brain and find better sources.

You are accusing Boyd of being a  kook yet here you are quoting from an unreliable source as if its the reliable quran  cool cool cool grin grin grin (pun intendedgrin grin grin  cool cool cool
FashionRe: Women Shun Comfort For Foot Fashion: by No2Atheism(m): 12:02pm On Sep 07, 2009
In a weird way, I don't really support pain for fashion, infact i get turned on by simplicity  grin yes I am one of those dudes that like women to be natural grin grin grin.

Do i sometimes like her to wear those high heels . . . grin grin grin yes of course  grin grin grin in cases of hmmm hmmm hmmm grin grin grin grin. . . how frequent  huh well unfortunately, few and far between, cus i understand the long term implications of such shoes to the leg, hence i would not advise that it be done.
RomanceRe: What Will You If Another Guy Disvirgin Your Girlfriend by No2Atheism(m): 4:12am On Sep 07, 2009
freshguy:
lazeal, YOU mess UP, U REALLY DOWNGRADE BENIN GUYS,IMAGINE U DEY WITH GIRL FOR GOOD 2 YEARS NOTHING HAPPEN?WELL,SEE SHE DON mess UP,WELL,IT GOOD TO FORGIVE HER,BUT LET HER GO,

DON'T EVER HAVE SEX WITH HER,
FORGET ALL U HAVE DONE FOR HER,
LET HER GO HER WELL, COZ IF SHE GO WITHOUT U HAVING SEX WITH HER, THEN HER MIND WILL ALWAYS JUDGE HER,
U BE MY BROTHER NA WHY I DEY TELL U,IF U WANT MAKE your MIND DEY AT PEACE,JUST LEAVE HER MAKE SHE WAKA.
NO mess HER OOO.
FIND ANOTHER GIRL SPEND your TIME WITH,
U WILL GET OVER IT.LOOK FOR AKON LATEST TRACKS AND PLAY TO WHILE AWAY TIME AND THE PAIN,
WETIN THIS GIRL DO U DEY PAIN ME, YOU FIT REACH ME ON dt08026@yahoo.com SO THAT WE GO TALK, I DEY ONLINE ON YAHOO MESSENGER,
WETIN THIS GIRL DO U, LEAVE AM FOR GOD OK MY BRODA, E DEY HAPPEN TO EVERYBODY JUST FORGIVE HER AND TELL HER TO STAY OUT OFF your LIFE OK,
I BE DELTA GUY BUT I BASE FOR LAGOS,
LET HER GO HER WELL, COZ IF SHE GO WITHOUT U HAVING SEX WITH HER, THEN HER MIND WILL ALWAYS JUDGE HER,
1. Very valid point . . . from experience, what you don't do in retaliation to a women is sometimes more potent than wen u actually try to do something.

2. What if she now has HIV AIDS as a result of being banged in Port-Harcourt, are you now going to stupidly get yourself infected by sleeping with her.

3. Please use your head, she is not wife material (you trusted her she betrayed you).

4. Never ever lay hands on a woman under any circumstance.

5. Let her go in peace, he conscience would eventually crucify her . . . you do not have to do anything to get ur revenge.

6. I blame you also for knowingly allow her to befriend someone else (that is almost like pimping her out) who you sowed is what you are reaping. A sensible woman and wife material would never allow you to love-vendor her out.

7. Move on with your life . . . trying to revenge is childish and immature.
RomanceRe: What Will You If Another Guy Disvirgin Your Girlfriend by No2Atheism(m): 3:58am On Sep 07, 2009
TOYOSI20:
this gat me cracking the hell up, . . .when u have to shoot , . . .shoot, dont talk!!~i mean basically~
You are stealing Dirty Harry's line grin grin grin don't let Clint Eastwood catch u . . .
PoliticsRe: Is Hiv Aids A Biological Weapon Against Black People ? by No2Atheism(op): 3:51am On Sep 07, 2009
I HAVE NOTICED THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT EVEN TAKING THE TIME TO CROSS CHECK THE POINTS RAISED BY BOYD GRAEVES, INSTEAD THERE SEEMS TO BE A KNEE JERK REACTION BASED PURELY ON DOGMA RATHER THAN LOGIC.

HENCE TO HELP PEOPLE SEE THE POINTS MADE BY BOYD GRAEVES . . . BELOW ARE THE POINTS ONCE AGAIN .

THE MORE WORRISOME PARTS OF THE COMMENTS THAT I AM SEEING HERE IS THAT MOST OF THE COMMENTERS FAIL TO REALISE ONE IMPORTANT POINT, BOYD HAS BEEN SUBJECTED TO THE BRUTAL US LEGAL SYSTEM (MEANING THAT HIS STATEMENTS AND PROCLAMATIONS HAVE BEEN FACTED CHECKED IN THE COURT OF LAW) . . .


I am not promoting Boyd Greaves, yet at the same time i find that his points and submission are difficult to disprove hence demand consideration, hence the reason and basis for this thread in case someone has a another referencable argument . . . that can likewise be fact-checked.





http://www.boydgraves.com/timeline/


The History of the Development of AIDS
Chapter Excerpt from “State Origin: The Evidence of the Laboratory Birth of AIDS” by Boyd E. Graves, J.D.


The true history of the origin of AIDS can be traced throughout the 20th Century and back to 1878. On April 29 of that year the United States passed a “FEDERAL QUARANTINE ACT”.

The United States began a significant effort to investigate “causes” of epidemic diseases. In 1887, the effort was enhanced with the mandate of the U.S. “LABORATORY OF HYGIENE”. This lab was run by Dr. Joseph J. Kinyoun, a deep rooted-racist, who served the eugenics movement with dedication.

Two years later, 1889, we were able to identify “mycoplasmas”, a transmissible agent, that is now found at the heart of human diseases, including (AIDS) HIV.

In 1893, we strengthened the Federal Quarantine Act and suddenly there was an explosion of polio.

In 1898, we knew we could use mycoplasma to cause epidemics, because we were able to do so in cattle, and we saw it in tobacco plants.

In 1899, the U.S. Congress began investigating “leprosy in the United States”.

In 1902, We organized a “Station for Experimental Evolution” and we were able to identify diseases of an ethnic nature.

In 1904, we used mycoplasma to cause an epidemic in horses.

In 1910, we used mycoplasma to cause an epidemic in fowl/birds.

In 1917, we formed the “Federation of the American Society for Experimental Biology” (FASEB).

In 1918, the influenza virus killed millions of unsuspecting. It was a flu virus modified with a bird mycoplasma for which human primates had no “acquired immunity”.

In 1921, lead eugenics philosopher, Betrand Russell, publicly supported the “necessity for “organized” plagues” against the Black population.

In 1931, we secretly tested African Americans and we tested AIDS in sheep.

In 1935, we learned we could crystallize the tobacco mycoplasma, and it would remain infectious.

In 1943, we officially began our bio-warfare program. Shortly thereafter, we were finding our way to New Guinea to study mycoplasma in humans.

In 1945, we witnessed the greatest influx of foreign scientists in history into the U.S. biological program. Operation Paperclip will live in infamy as one of the darkest programs of a twisted parallel government fixated on genocide.

In 1946, the United States Navy hired Dr. Earl Traub, a notorious racist biologist.
A May appropriations hearing confirms the existence of a “secret” biological weapon.

In 1948, we know that the United States confirmed the endorsement of “devising a scheme” in which to address the issue of overpopulation in certain racial groups. State Department’s George McKennan’s memo will forever illuminate the eugenics mendacity necessary for genocide of millions of innocent people.

In 1949, Dr. Bjorn Sigurdsson isolates the VISNA virus. Visna is man made and shares some “unique DNA” with HIV. See, Proceedings of the United States, NAS, Vol. 92, pp. 3283 - 7, (April 11, 1995).

In 1951, we now know our government conducted its first virus attack on African Americans. Crates in Pennsylvania were tainted to see how many Negro crate handlers in Virginia would acquire the placebo virus,  They were also experimentally infecting sheep and goats. According to author Eva Snead, they also held their first world conference on an AIDS-like virus.

In 1954, Dr. Bjorn Sigurdsson publishes his first paper on Visna virus and establishes himself as the “Grandfather of the AIDS virus.” He will encounter competition from Dr. Carlton Gajdusek.

In 1955, they were able to artificially assemble the tobacco mosaic virus. Mycoplasmas will forever be at the heart of the U.S. biological warfare program

In 1957, future U.S. president, Rep Gerald Ford and others gave the U.S. Pentagon permission to aggressively deploy offensive biological agents. There are no recorded cases of AIDS prior to the 1957 creation of “Special Operation-X.” (The SOX) program served as the immediate prototype program for the Special Virus program to begin in 1962.

By 1960, Nikita Kruschev had been let in on the biological weapon. His 1960 statement will long reflect the arrogance of the secret blend of communism and democracy. The two countries would go to a November 1972 agreement to cull the Black Population.

In 1961, scientist Haldor Thomar publishes that viruses cause cancer. In 1995, he and Carlton Gajdusek informed the National Academy of Sciences that “the study of visna in sheep would be the best test for candidate anti-HIV drugs.”

In 1962, under the cover of cancer research, the United States charts a path to commit premeditated murder, the “Special Virus” program begins on February 12th. Dr. Len Hayflick sets up a U.S. mycoplasma laboratory at Stanford University. Many believe the “Special Virus” program began in November 1961 with a Phizer contract.

Beginning in 1963 and for every year thereafter, the “Special Virus” program conducted annual progress reviews at Hershey Medical Center, Hershey, PA. The annual meetings are representative of the aggressive nature in which the United States pursued the development of AIDS.

In 1964, the United States Congress gave full support for the leukemia/lymphoma (AIDS) virus research.

In 1967, the National Academy of Sciences launched a full scale assault on Africa. The CIA (Technical Services Division) acknowledged its secret inoculator program.

In 1969, Fort Detrick told world scientists and the Pentagon asked for more money, they knew they could make AIDS. Nixon’s July 18 secret memo to Congress on “Overpopulation” serves as the start of the paper trail of the AIDS Holocaust.

In 1970, President Nixon signed PL91-213 and John D. Rockefeller, III became the “Population Czar.” Nixon’s August 10 National Security Memo leaves no doubt as to the genocidal nature of depopulation.

In 1971, Progress Report #8 is issued. The flowchart (pg. 61) will forever resolve the true laboratory birth origin of AIDS. Eventually the Special Virus program will issue 15 reports and over 20,000 scientific papers. The flowchart links every scientific paper, medical experiment and U.S. contract. The flowchart would remain “missing” until 1999. World scientists were stunned. The flowchart will gain in significance throughout the 21st Century. It is also clear the experiments conducted under Phase IV-A of the flowchart are our best route to better therapy and treatment for people living with HIV/AIDS. The first sixty pages of progress report #8 of the Special Virus program prove conclusively the specific goal of the program. By June 1977, the Special Virus program had produced 15, 000 gallons of AIDS. The AIDS virus was attached as complement to vaccines sent to Africa and Manhattan. However, because of the thoroughness of authors, like Dr. Robert E. Lee, we also learn the Stanford Mycoplasma Laboratory issues one of the first papers with AIDS in the title. “Viral Infections in Man Associated with Acquired Immunological Deficiency States.” The primary scientist, Dr. Thomas Merigan, was a “consultant” to the Special Virus program.

Progress Report # 8 at 104 - 106 proves Dr. Robert Gallo was secretly working on the development of AIDS with full support of the sector of the U.S. government that seeks to kill its citizens. Dr. Gallo can not explain why he excluded his role as a “project officer” for the Special Virus program from his biographical book. Dr. Gallo’s early work and discoveries will finally be viewed in relation to the flowchart. We now know where every experiment fits into the flowchart. The “research logic” is irrefutable evidence of a federal “Manhattan-style project” to develop a “contagious” cancer that “selectively” kills. Dr. Gallo’s 1971 paper is identical to his 1984 AIDS announcement.

Progress Report #8 at 273 - 286 proves we gave AIDS to monkeys. Since 1962, the United States and Dr. Robert Gallo have been inoculating monkeys and re-releasing them back into the wild. Thus, even government scientists are baffled that both HIV-1 and HIV-II would “suddenly emerge” from two distinct monkey ancestral relatives during the last 100 years. A 1999 Japanese study will ultimately prove the Man to Monkey origin of Monkey AIDS. The monkey experiments summary definitively proves Monkey AIDS is also man-made.

In 1972, the United States and the Soviet Union entered into a biological agreement that would signal the death knell for the Black Population. The 1972 agreement for collaboration and cooperation in the development of offensive biological agents is still U. S. policy.

In 1973, we find that world scientist, Garth Nicolson reports on his project, “Role of the Cell Surface in Escape From Immunological Surveillance.” His report is accompanied by seven published papers. Dr. Nicolson worked in conjunction with the Special Virus program from 1972 until 1978. Dr. Nicolson is considered by some to be Dr. Gallo’s “West Coast” counterpart. It is strongly held that because of Dr. Nicolson, Dr. Robert Gallo and Dr. Luc Montagnier would secretly meet in Southern California to coordinate what they would and would not say about the special virus development program.

In 1974, Furher Henry Kissinger releases his NSSM-200 (U.S. Plan to Address Overpopulation). It is the only issue of discussion at the World Population Conference in Bucharest, Romania.  The men in the shadows had won, the whole world agrees to secretly cull Africa’s population. Today it is Africa and other undesirables. Tomorrow it may be you.

In 1975, President Gerald Ford signs National Security Defense Memorandum #314. The United States implements the Kissinger NSSM-200.

In 1976, the United States issues Progress Report #13 of the Special Virus program. The report proves the United States had various international agreements with the Russians, Germans, British, French, Canadians and Japanese. The plot to kill Black people has wide international support. In March, the Special Virus began production of the AIDS virus, by June 1977, the program will have produced 15,000 gallons of AIDS. President Jimmy Carter allows for the continuation of the secret plan to cull the Black Population.

In 1977, Dr. Robert Gallo and the top Soviet Scientists meet to discuss the proliferation of the 15,000 gallons of AIDS. They attach AIDS as complement to the Small pox vaccine for Africa, and the “experimental” hepatitis B vaccine for Manhattan. According to authors June Goodfield and Alan Cantwell, it is Batch #751 that was administered in New York to thousands of innocent people. This government will never be able to repay the people for the social rape, humiliation and out right prejudice people with HIV/AIDS face on a daily basis. The men in the shadows of the AIDS curtain accurately calculated that you would not care if only Blacks and gays are dying. In fact you don’t care that nearly a half million Gulf War veterans are encumbered with something contagious. Soon there will be no more Black people and a confused military, older White people will start suddenly dying and you still won’t get it. Be here now for us, give us a chance to be there for you.

Suddenly, just as President Nixon had predicted, there was explosive death. On November 4, 1999, the U.S. White House announced,,  “Within a period as short as five years, all new infections of HIV in the United States will be African American, ” At some point our experts must be allowed to begin the interface process of allowing the history of this virus program to count. It is ludicrous and preposterous to fail to review the U.S. virus program in which to elucidate the etiology of AIDS.

More of the history of the secret virus program can be found in the archives of Dr. John B. Moloney. A review of the files under Dr. Moloney’s name would further pinpoint additional dates and records consistent with one of the greatest hunts, capture and proliferation of disease in the history of the human race. We have found the missing link. It is the guts of the research logic of a federal program that seeks to kill. We have found a curtain of AIDS. We can identify some of the people who work in the shadows of the curtain. Dr. Robert Gallo and Dr. Garth Nicolson must lead us in review. In light of the attack mechanisms available in which to inhibit AIDS, it is time that not another person be stricken with this relic, synthetic mycoplasma chimera.

Help those of us who are still here to realize full and contributory lives. We are all one people.

On September 28, 1998 I filed suit against the United States for the “creation”, “production” and “proliferation” of AIDS. On November 7, 2000, the appeals court agreed with the lower court and held AIDS bioengineering as “frivolous.” The world continues to wait for the court to rule on the resubmitted issues. The court can not continue to simply brush aside our experts and the government’s flowchart.

I have been asked to give my perspective with regard to the federal program MK-NAOMI . MK-NAOMI is the code for the development of AIDS. The “MK” portion stands for the two co-authors of the AIDS virus, Robert Manaker and Paul Kotin. The “NAOMI” portion stands for “Negroes are Only Momentary Individuals.” The U.S. government continues to orchestrate silence from the very top echelons of the Congress and military. At present there is no accountability. The good people will ultimately create a tsunami of public outrage. We can not allow the state an autocratic right to govern outside of the Constitution. Our society is structured to hide crimes committed by the state, while punishing citizens for minor indiscretions. Their strategy focuses on the general confusion they can create via manipulation of the media. They are very good at what they do. We must become more focused in our continued presentation of the flowchart. The flowchart is the absolute missing link in proving the existence of a coordinated research program to develop a cancer virus that depletes the immune system. New diseases do not create old illnesses.


This compilation of court documents and correspondence is the true effort of one man’s achievement in solving the mystery of the origin of AIDS. We have found the origin of AIDS, it is us.


Sign Petition | Audio

Comments | About Boyd "Ed" Graves, J.D.

Video | 1971 Special Virus Flow Chart


Contact | Order

PoliticsRe: Is Hiv Aids A Biological Weapon Against Black People ? by No2Atheism(op): 3:20am On Sep 07, 2009
Kobojunkie:
OH MY GOSH!!! Roflmao!!! That came from an adult educated mind?? Roflmao!!
Beaf:
When people come up with this sort of far fetched shit, it can be entertaining, but I remember watching some guys called heavens gate and having a laugh with the rest of my folk. They were going to be raptured by flying saucers hanging on the tail of a comet; then a couple of days later, they had all committed mass suicide.
We should be really careful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven's_Gate_(religious_group)
oyb:
heheheh

wikipedia is not reliable - but an article from a kook [/b]on the internet is?  grin

2005 reports are not reliable, but the 1998 report of dr boyd is reliable  cheesy cheesy

how come he is the only one to have made this discovery?

[b]we all know that you have a weird obseesion with how the whiteman is resposible for holding the blackman down etal
- heck some have said that somewhere in the religion you stated that er your God er spoke to you and[b] told you Jesus is black or some such[/b]. so its no real surprise that you're here again , feeding your neurosis with ever more absurd conspiracy theories - all the while blathering about your - academic research -

you're simply being a black james watson (without the accolades)
undecided

1. Ignore everything that no2atheism HAS said as concerns the topic - CHECK
2. Go down the route of melodrama - CHECK
3. Pretend to say something of meaningful contribution to the topic. - CHECK
4. Ignore the fact that what Boyd Greaves presents and says are actually fact checkable from the government itself and have been put under scrutiny - CHECK
5. Ignore Historical precedents - CHECK
6. A muslim claiming that the Messiah is White - CHECK
7. Call Boyd Greaves a kook (without evidence) - CHECK
8. Use straw man's argument of linking the issue to Flying Saucers as a means of ridicule - CHECK
9. Use more melodrama and make the loudest noise - CHECK

Hmmm am i missing something else from the responses . . .  grin grin grin

@others

Those that seek to contribute can do so and note that:

- This topic is not a personal opinion about how HIV AIDS is transmitted.

- Instead it is a discussion into the historical origin and purposes of the HIV AIDS virus itself


. . . people should please take time to properly read the topic first, before posting their replies otherwise it makes them look hmm hmm very bad research-wise, . . . it does not bode well for replies that go way off mark as regards to the purpose of the thread.

FURTHER COMPARED AND CONTRASTED POINTS AS REGARDS THE TOPIC ARE WELCOMED . . .


sorry if i am not responding immediately, instead i intend to vet response that i end up responding to, so as not to go off topic.
Those who know me on this forum know that i don't do melodrama (hence i would gladly ignore all irrelevancies  undecided)  while prefering to listen to well thought out responses in relation to the valid points raised by Boyd Graeves.
CelebritiesRe: Adaeze Igwe And Joseph Yobo Confirm Romance. by No2Atheism(m): 7:17pm On Sep 06, 2009
@topic

grin grin grin grin
SportsRe: Nigeria (2) Vs Tunisia (2) on Sunday 6th September by No2Atheism(m): 5:47pm On Sep 06, 2009
People do not worry, we are going to lose honourably . . . .  grin grin grin
SportsRe: Nigeria (2) Vs Tunisia (2) on Sunday 6th September by No2Atheism(m): 5:43pm On Sep 06, 2009
grin Yobo must have donated some semen something overnight otherwise  lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
SportsRe: Nigeria (2) Vs Tunisia (2) on Sunday 6th September by No2Atheism(m): 5:41pm On Sep 06, 2009
Don't worry people EFCC would intimidate the Referee . . .

Finally i hope someone see mikel for how shit he is . . . Chelsea has destroyed mikel he is neither good at defense nor good at going forward.
SportsRe: Nigeria (2) Vs Tunisia (2) on Sunday 6th September by No2Atheism(m): 5:36pm On Sep 06, 2009
By the way, who is playing at home and please who is playing at home . . .

Are we playing away . . .  grin grin grin

Taye Taiwo is starting to show his age  grin grin grin grin
SportsRe: Nigeria (2) Vs Tunisia (2) on Sunday 6th September by No2Atheism(m): 5:33pm On Sep 06, 2009
I love the super chickens  grin grin grin , it seems like Yobo is dropping too much [size=5pt]sperm[/size] somewhere, hence why bros no dey do well  grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: Is Hiv Aids A Biological Weapon Against Black People ? by No2Atheism(op): 2:14pm On Sep 06, 2009
@Beaf


Let me repeat once again, I AM INTO ACADEMIC RESEARCH (i.e. I am involved in issues related to Academic Papers). Hence in my line of endeavour, quoting Wikipedia as a source of information is a straight road to academic failure and ridicule, so please understand when I take the 2005 report with a pinch of salt.



@Everybody

What Boyd Graeves says is disturbing when one considers its ramifications, historical past and current precendents e.g. how some Native Americans were almost wiped out through intentional biological warfare. At the same time, my academic brain tells me that what Boyd is saying sounds too good to be true, yet its difficult to dispute hence the reason why i am asking for contributions on this thread.

I hope this is now clear enough for those having trouble with comprehension . . .
PoliticsRe: Is Hiv Aids A Biological Weapon Against Black People ? by No2Atheism(op): 2:04pm On Sep 06, 2009
KnowAll:
Blackmen who go about in a dear devil,  kamikaze,  action hero style, sleeping with everything they come across without the thought of protecting or refraining from such acts, only to turn round pointing accusing fingers at white men who live thousands of miles away are either leaving in a cukoo land or needs to get their heads examined by a psycathrist.  It is not rocket science if you want to fu?k Indiscreminately at least use Cooondoooms for christ sake thick heads.   undecided
I agree . . . completely.

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However what people seem not to be getting about this thread is that:

- It is not a personal opinion about how HIV AIDS is transmitted.

- Instead it is a discussion into the historical origin and purposes of the HIV AIDS virus itself


I really don't know how many times i have to repeat this obvious detail . . . . people please take time to properly read the topic first, before posting your reply, . . . it does not bode well for replies that go way off mark as regards to the purpose of the thread.
PoliticsRe: Is Hiv Aids A Biological Weapon Against Black People ? by No2Atheism(op): 2:01pm On Sep 06, 2009
PoliticsRe: Is Hiv Aids A Biological Weapon Against Black People ? by No2Atheism(op): 1:35pm On Sep 06, 2009
oyb:
don't mind this noisemaker

he is constantly searching for 'evidence' that it is the whiteman, and not africans who are responsible for the mess we are in today

he is just spouting one of many conspiracy theories about HIV

tomorrow, he will claim that oyinbos introduced ebola to eradicate black men

na wetin dey come from too much x-men ala legacy virus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS_origins_opposed_to_scientific_consensus

   
in the company of fruitcakes


abegi, is the op not a 'born again christian' -  why does he not subscribe to the other popular belief - that HIV is punishment for chocolate riders and promiscity in general  cheesy
@oyb  grin i can see that you are referencing Wikipedia nice piece of academic reference . . . u have there.

@others

Since it seems some people on this thread are jumping to conclusions, let me break the topic down to you.

- This topic is not about the existence or non-existence of a cure for HIV AIDS (i don't know it hence would not argue it)
- This topic is not about whether or not Boyd Graeves was right or wrong, instead its about the valid points that were raised by him.
- Notice that i have said i am against indiscriminate sex.
- The points raised on my additional posts (being quotes) need to be either disproved or ridiculed or backup (but please don't use wikipedia it does not bode well for your ability to do research wen u try to use wikipedia to defend a point).
- All i have seen here is mere melodrama towards me as a person, instead what i am asking for is an academic discussion of how Boyd was wrong, considering that their are reports showing that his arguments cannot be legally refuted (meaning that they stand up to academic and legal scrutiny), those using wikipedia to attempt to ridicule Boyd are just showing their lack of a better source.
- Notice that i said in my initial post that i am willing to learn hence would be happy to have a sound academic argument (i.e. something not cut and pasted from wikipedia).
- Does that mean i completely believe Boyd Graeves, NO.
- So what am i trying to do with the post, I am trying to find a reasonable academic argument against what Boyd Graeves has said and listed, considering that his arguments are quite legally and academically sound enough to make it through the US legal scrutiny.


PS: I am into academic research as a person, hence why i know wikipedia is not a reliable source to quote from (@oyb take note) infact its a dangerous source to quote from.


oyb:
here is the patent for tetrasil.

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?u=%2Fnetahtml%2Fsrchnum.htm&Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&r=1&l=50&f=G&d=PALL&s1=5676977.PN.&OS=PN/5676977&RS=PN/5676977

so why is it only marketed as a skin ointment?

http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=17490

ouch

oya no2a - get out there buy that tetrasil you can even er test it on yourself - people have done greater things for science. consider it a risk for the black race and the world  grin
- shocked shocked shocked shocked I hope u are not wishing it on urself or something  shocked shocked shocked shocked

- Yes I do not deny the fact that i am completely against any form of oppression whether from Arabs masqurading as a false god Allah, or as Europeans masquerading as descendants of ancient Isrealites or as Europeans brainwashing and dominating other races (most especially the black race). Nevertheless, most if not all people on nairaland know that I am not dogmatic, hence the reason why i am hoping someone would at least provide a credible source by which what Boyd says is refuted.

All i am seeing here is mere melodrama.

@oyb

I am sorry but i would continue to bash mohammed and allah cus they are a false peadophilia prophet and moon god respectively. If that is why u have choosen to go down the route of melodrama instead of actually refuting Boyd, i would gladly continue look for ur islamic trouble grin


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Let me say it again for those who seem not to take time to do a proper reading of the topic before attacking the poster. Please note:

If someone asked this topic like 4 years ago, I would have probably laughed the person to scorn.
I would welcome all contributions to this topic . . . right now i don't know what to believe as concerns the origin and purpose of AIDS, considering that sexual promiscuity was the vehicle of propagation nevertheless it does not mean that its the cause nor the source.

Yes HIV AIDS can be spread through sex . . . i do not dispute that.
I also vehemently oppose indiscriminate sex and want people to be abstain from sex.


However this thread is not about how HIV AIDS is transmitted, instead its about[b] how it began[/b] and why.

Please let your opinion be known . . . I want to learn.



Once again, instead of melodrama and straw man arguments, i would be glad if someone can please academically and legally provide rebuttals to what has been presented below from Boyd's website (they are serious accusations) and to be frank, its difficult to fault them.


http://www.boydgraves.com/timeline/

[size=7pt]
The History of the Development of AIDS
Chapter Excerpt from “State Origin: The Evidence of the Laboratory Birth of AIDS” by Boyd E. Graves, J.D.


The true history of the origin of AIDS can be traced throughout the 20th Century and back to 1878. On April 29 of that year the United States passed a “FEDERAL QUARANTINE ACT”.

The United States began a significant effort to investigate “causes” of epidemic diseases. In 1887, the effort was enhanced with the mandate of the U.S. “LABORATORY OF HYGIENE”. This lab was run by Dr. Joseph J. Kinyoun, a deep rooted-racist, who served the eugenics movement with dedication.

Two years later, 1889, we were able to identify “mycoplasmas”, a transmissible agent, that is now found at the heart of human diseases, including (AIDS) HIV.

In 1893, we strengthened the Federal Quarantine Act and suddenly there was an explosion of polio.

In 1898, we knew we could use mycoplasma to cause epidemics, because we were able to do so in cattle, and we saw it in tobacco plants.

In 1899, the U.S. Congress began investigating “leprosy in the United States”.

In 1902, We organized a “Station for Experimental Evolution” and we were able to identify diseases of an ethnic nature.

In 1904, we used mycoplasma to cause an epidemic in horses.

In 1910, we used mycoplasma to cause an epidemic in fowl/birds.

In 1917, we formed the “Federation of the American Society for Experimental Biology” (FASEB).

In 1918, the influenza virus killed millions of unsuspecting. It was a flu virus modified with a bird mycoplasma for which human primates had no “acquired immunity”.

In 1921, lead eugenics philosopher, Betrand Russell, publicly supported the “necessity for “organized” plagues” against the Black population.

In 1931, we secretly tested African Americans and we tested AIDS in sheep.

In 1935, we learned we could crystallize the tobacco mycoplasma, and it would remain infectious.

In 1943, we officially began our bio-warfare program. Shortly thereafter, we were finding our way to New Guinea to study mycoplasma in humans.

In 1945, we witnessed the greatest influx of foreign scientists in history into the U.S. biological program. Operation Paperclip will live in infamy as one of the darkest programs of a twisted parallel government fixated on genocide.

In 1946, the United States Navy hired Dr. Earl Traub, a notorious racist biologist.
A May appropriations hearing confirms the existence of a “secret” biological weapon.

In 1948, we know that the United States confirmed the endorsement of “devising a scheme” in which to address the issue of overpopulation in certain racial groups. State Department’s George McKennan’s memo will forever illuminate the eugenics mendacity necessary for genocide of millions of innocent people.

In 1949, Dr. Bjorn Sigurdsson isolates the VISNA virus. Visna is man made and shares some “unique DNA” with HIV. See, Proceedings of the United States, NAS, Vol. 92, pp. 3283 - 7, (April 11, 1995).

In 1951, we now know our government conducted its first virus attack on African Americans. Crates in Pennsylvania were tainted to see how many Negro crate handlers in Virginia would acquire the placebo virus, They were also experimentally infecting sheep and goats. According to author Eva Snead, they also held their first world conference on an AIDS-like virus.

In 1954, Dr. Bjorn Sigurdsson publishes his first paper on Visna virus and establishes himself as the “Grandfather of the AIDS virus.” He will encounter competition from Dr. Carlton Gajdusek.

In 1955, they were able to artificially assemble the tobacco mosaic virus. Mycoplasmas will forever be at the heart of the U.S. biological warfare program

In 1957, future U.S. president, Rep Gerald Ford and others gave the U.S. Pentagon permission to aggressively deploy offensive biological agents. There are no recorded cases of AIDS prior to the 1957 creation of “Special Operation-X.” (The SOX) program served as the immediate prototype program for the Special Virus program to begin in 1962.

By 1960, Nikita Kruschev had been let in on the biological weapon. His 1960 statement will long reflect the arrogance of the secret blend of communism and democracy. The two countries would go to a November 1972 agreement to cull the Black Population.

In 1961, scientist Haldor Thomar publishes that viruses cause cancer. In 1995, he and Carlton Gajdusek informed the National Academy of Sciences that “the study of visna in sheep would be the best test for candidate anti-HIV drugs.”

In 1962, under the cover of cancer research, the United States charts a path to commit premeditated murder, the “Special Virus” program begins on February 12th. Dr. Len Hayflick sets up a U.S. mycoplasma laboratory at Stanford University. Many believe the “Special Virus” program began in November 1961 with a Phizer contract.

Beginning in 1963 and for every year thereafter, the “Special Virus” program conducted annual progress reviews at Hershey Medical Center, Hershey, PA. The annual meetings are representative of the aggressive nature in which the United States pursued the development of AIDS.

In 1964, the United States Congress gave full support for the leukemia/lymphoma (AIDS) virus research.

In 1967, the National Academy of Sciences launched a full scale assault on Africa. The CIA (Technical Services Division) acknowledged its secret inoculator program.

In 1969, Fort Detrick told world scientists and the Pentagon asked for more money, they knew they could make AIDS. Nixon’s July 18 secret memo to Congress on “Overpopulation” serves as the start of the paper trail of the AIDS Holocaust.

In 1970, President Nixon signed PL91-213 and John D. Rockefeller, III became the “Population Czar.” Nixon’s August 10 National Security Memo leaves no doubt as to the genocidal nature of depopulation.

In 1971, Progress Report #8 is issued. The flowchart (pg. 61) will forever resolve the true laboratory birth origin of AIDS. Eventually the Special Virus program will issue 15 reports and over 20,000 scientific papers. The flowchart links every scientific paper, medical experiment and U.S. contract. The flowchart would remain “missing” until 1999. World scientists were stunned. The flowchart will gain in significance throughout the 21st Century. It is also clear the experiments conducted under Phase IV-A of the flowchart are our best route to better therapy and treatment for people living with HIV/AIDS. The first sixty pages of progress report #8 of the Special Virus program prove conclusively the specific goal of the program. By June 1977, the Special Virus program had produced 15, 000 gallons of AIDS. The AIDS virus was attached as complement to vaccines sent to Africa and Manhattan. However, because of the thoroughness of authors, like Dr. Robert E. Lee, we also learn the Stanford Mycoplasma Laboratory issues one of the first papers with AIDS in the title. “Viral Infections in Man Associated with Acquired Immunological Deficiency States.” The primary scientist, Dr. Thomas Merigan, was a “consultant” to the Special Virus program.

Progress Report # 8 at 104 - 106 proves Dr. Robert Gallo was secretly working on the development of AIDS with full support of the sector of the U.S. government that seeks to kill its citizens. Dr. Gallo can not explain why he excluded his role as a “project officer” for the Special Virus program from his biographical book. Dr. Gallo’s early work and discoveries will finally be viewed in relation to the flowchart. We now know where every experiment fits into the flowchart. The “research logic” is irrefutable evidence of a federal “Manhattan-style project” to develop a “contagious” cancer that “selectively” kills. Dr. Gallo’s 1971 paper is identical to his 1984 AIDS announcement.

Progress Report #8 at 273 - 286 proves we gave AIDS to monkeys. Since 1962, the United States and Dr. Robert Gallo have been inoculating monkeys and re-releasing them back into the wild. Thus, even government scientists are baffled that both HIV-1 and HIV-II would “suddenly emerge” from two distinct monkey ancestral relatives during the last 100 years. A 1999 Japanese study will ultimately prove the Man to Monkey origin of Monkey AIDS. The monkey experiments summary definitively proves Monkey AIDS is also man-made.

In 1972, the United States and the Soviet Union entered into a biological agreement that would signal the death knell for the Black Population. The 1972 agreement for collaboration and cooperation in the development of offensive biological agents is still U. S. policy.

In 1973, we find that world scientist, Garth Nicolson reports on his project, “Role of the Cell Surface in Escape From Immunological Surveillance.” His report is accompanied by seven published papers. Dr. Nicolson worked in conjunction with the Special Virus program from 1972 until 1978. Dr. Nicolson is considered by some to be Dr. Gallo’s “West Coast” counterpart. It is strongly held that because of Dr. Nicolson, Dr. Robert Gallo and Dr. Luc Montagnier would secretly meet in Southern California to coordinate what they would and would not say about the special virus development program.

In 1974, Furher Henry Kissinger releases his NSSM-200 (U.S. Plan to Address Overpopulation). It is the only issue of discussion at the World Population Conference in Bucharest, Romania.  The men in the shadows had won, the whole world agrees to secretly cull Africa’s population. Today it is Africa and other undesirables. Tomorrow it may be you.

In 1975, President Gerald Ford signs National Security Defense Memorandum #314. The United States implements the Kissinger NSSM-200.

In 1976, the United States issues Progress Report #13 of the Special Virus program. The report proves the United States had various international agreements with the Russians, Germans, British, French, Canadians and Japanese. The plot to kill Black people has wide international support. In March, the Special Virus began production of the AIDS virus, by June 1977, the program will have produced 15,000 gallons of AIDS. President Jimmy Carter allows for the continuation of the secret plan to cull the Black Population.

In 1977, Dr. Robert Gallo and the top Soviet Scientists meet to discuss the proliferation of the 15,000 gallons of AIDS. They attach AIDS as complement to the Small pox vaccine for Africa, and the “experimental” hepatitis B vaccine for Manhattan. According to authors June Goodfield and Alan Cantwell, it is Batch #751 that was administered in New York to thousands of innocent people. This government will never be able to repay the people for the social rape, humiliation and out right prejudice people with HIV/AIDS face on a daily basis. The men in the shadows of the AIDS curtain accurately calculated that you would not care if only Blacks and gays are dying. In fact you don’t care that nearly a half million Gulf War veterans are encumbered with something contagious. Soon there will be no more Black people and a confused military, older White people will start suddenly dying and you still won’t get it. Be here now for us, give us a chance to be there for you.

Suddenly, just as President Nixon had predicted, there was explosive death. On November 4, 1999, the U.S. White House announced,, “Within a period as short as five years, all new infections of HIV in the United States will be African American, ” At some point our experts must be allowed to begin the interface process of allowing the history of this virus program to count. It is ludicrous and preposterous to fail to review the U.S. virus program in which to elucidate the etiology of AIDS.

More of the history of the secret virus program can be found in the archives of Dr. John B. Moloney. A review of the files under Dr. Moloney’s name would further pinpoint additional dates and records consistent with one of the greatest hunts, capture and proliferation of disease in the history of the human race. We have found the missing link. It is the guts of the research logic of a federal program that seeks to kill. We have found a curtain of AIDS. We can identify some of the people who work in the shadows of the curtain. Dr. Robert Gallo and Dr. Garth Nicolson must lead us in review. In light of the attack mechanisms available in which to inhibit AIDS, it is time that not another person be stricken with this relic, synthetic mycoplasma chimera.

Help those of us who are still here to realize full and contributory lives. We are all one people.

On September 28, 1998 I filed suit against the United States for the “creation”, “production” and “proliferation” of AIDS. On November 7, 2000, the appeals court agreed with the lower court and held AIDS bioengineering as “frivolous.” The world continues to wait for the court to rule on the resubmitted issues. The court can not continue to simply brush aside our experts and the government’s flowchart.

I have been asked to give my perspective with regard to the federal program MK-NAOMI . MK-NAOMI is the code for the development of AIDS. The “MK” portion stands for the two co-authors of the AIDS virus, Robert Manaker and Paul Kotin. The “NAOMI” portion stands for “Negroes are Only Momentary Individuals.” The U.S. government continues to orchestrate silence from the very top echelons of the Congress and military. At present there is no accountability. The good people will ultimately create a tsunami of public outrage. We can not allow the state an autocratic right to govern outside of the Constitution. Our society is structured to hide crimes committed by the state, while punishing citizens for minor indiscretions. Their strategy focuses on the general confusion they can create via manipulation of the media. They are very good at what they do. We must become more focused in our continued presentation of the flowchart. The flowchart is the absolute missing link in proving the existence of a coordinated research program to develop a cancer virus that depletes the immune system. New diseases do not create old illnesses.

This compilation of court documents and correspondence is the true effort of one man’s achievement in solving the mystery of the origin of AIDS. We have found the origin of AIDS, it is us.

Sign Petition | Audio

Comments | About Boyd "Ed" Graves, J.D.

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Music/RadioRe: What Are You Listening To Right Now? by No2Atheism(m): 11:34pm On Sep 05, 2009
[quote author=A-40 link=topic=311128.msg4488835#msg4488835 date=1252189870]@No2Atheism
That song na waya

Lagos Party - Banky W(This one's even better)[/quote]It made my heart soft . . . infact i would fall for any woman that toast me right now grin grin grin grin (just kidding grin grin grin)

But seriously, that a solid track . . . .
Music/RadioRe: What Are You Listening To Right Now? by No2Atheism(m): 11:32pm On Sep 05, 2009
FL Gators:
Ne-Yo - Sexy Love
THE AMAKA:
thats the love making song.
cheesy
@Gators

i am beginning to suspect you this evening , hope its not a [size=5pt]PMS [/size]something something wey dey cause this  grin grin grin grin
Music/RadioRe: What Are You Listening To Right Now? by No2Atheism(m): 11:23pm On Sep 05, 2009
[quote author=A-40 link=topic=311128.msg4488745#msg4488745 date=1252188969]Strong Tin - Banky W(Banky W is sizzla)[/quote]shocked shocked shocked shocked wonderful . . . all of a sudden i feel wa tin tin grin grin grin grin
Music/RadioRe: What Are You Listening To Right Now? by No2Atheism(m): 11:17pm On Sep 05, 2009
TOYOSI20:
Jazmine Sullivan - Bust Your Windows . . .~disclaimer oo!!~ embarassed tongue cheesy
lipsrsealed lipsrsealed  angry angry  shocked shocked shocked huh huh huh
PoliticsRe: Is Hiv Aids A Biological Weapon Against Black People ? by No2Atheism(op): 11:13pm On Sep 05, 2009
http://www.boydgraves.com/timeline/


The History of the Development of AIDS
Chapter Excerpt from “State Origin: The Evidence of the Laboratory Birth of AIDS” by Boyd E. Graves, J.D.


The true history of the origin of AIDS can be traced throughout the 20th Century and back to 1878. On April 29 of that year the United States passed a “FEDERAL QUARANTINE ACT”.

The United States began a significant effort to investigate “causes” of epidemic diseases. In 1887, the effort was enhanced with the mandate of the U.S. “LABORATORY OF HYGIENE”. This lab was run by Dr. Joseph J. Kinyoun, a deep rooted-racist, who served the eugenics movement with dedication.

Two years later, 1889, we were able to identify “mycoplasmas”, a transmissible agent, that is now found at the heart of human diseases, including (AIDS) HIV.

In 1893, we strengthened the Federal Quarantine Act and suddenly there was an explosion of polio.

In 1898, we knew we could use mycoplasma to cause epidemics, because we were able to do so in cattle, and we saw it in tobacco plants.

In 1899, the U.S. Congress began investigating “leprosy in the United States”.

In 1902, We organized a “Station for Experimental Evolution” and we were able to identify diseases of an ethnic nature.

In 1904, we used mycoplasma to cause an epidemic in horses.

In 1910, we used mycoplasma to cause an epidemic in fowl/birds.

In 1917, we formed the “Federation of the American Society for Experimental Biology” (FASEB).

In 1918, the influenza virus killed millions of unsuspecting. It was a flu virus modified with a bird mycoplasma for which human primates had no “acquired immunity”.

In 1921, lead eugenics philosopher, Betrand Russell, publicly supported the “necessity for “organized” plagues” against the Black population.

In 1931, we secretly tested African Americans and we tested AIDS in sheep.

In 1935, we learned we could crystallize the tobacco mycoplasma, and it would remain infectious.

In 1943, we officially began our bio-warfare program. Shortly thereafter, we were finding our way to New Guinea to study mycoplasma in humans.

In 1945, we witnessed the greatest influx of foreign scientists in history into the U.S. biological program. Operation Paperclip will live in infamy as one of the darkest programs of a twisted parallel government fixated on genocide.

In 1946, the United States Navy hired Dr. Earl Traub, a notorious racist biologist.
A May appropriations hearing confirms the existence of a “secret” biological weapon.

In 1948, we know that the United States confirmed the endorsement of “devising a scheme” in which to address the issue of overpopulation in certain racial groups. State Department’s George McKennan’s memo will forever illuminate the eugenics mendacity necessary for genocide of millions of innocent people.

In 1949, Dr. Bjorn Sigurdsson isolates the VISNA virus. Visna is man made and shares some “unique DNA” with HIV. See, Proceedings of the United States, NAS, Vol. 92, pp. 3283 - 7, (April 11, 1995).

In 1951, we now know our government conducted its first virus attack on African Americans. Crates in Pennsylvania were tainted to see how many Negro crate handlers in Virginia would acquire the placebo virus, They were also experimentally infecting sheep and goats. According to author Eva Snead, they also held their first world conference on an AIDS-like virus.

In 1954, Dr. Bjorn Sigurdsson publishes his first paper on Visna virus and establishes himself as the “Grandfather of the AIDS virus.” He will encounter competition from Dr. Carlton Gajdusek.

In 1955, they were able to artificially assemble the tobacco mosaic virus. Mycoplasmas will forever be at the heart of the U.S. biological warfare program

In 1957, future U.S. president, Rep Gerald Ford and others gave the U.S. Pentagon permission to aggressively deploy offensive biological agents. There are no recorded cases of AIDS prior to the 1957 creation of “Special Operation-X.” (The SOX) program served as the immediate prototype program for the Special Virus program to begin in 1962.

By 1960, Nikita Kruschev had been let in on the biological weapon. His 1960 statement will long reflect the arrogance of the secret blend of communism and democracy. The two countries would go to a November 1972 agreement to cull the Black Population.

In 1961, scientist Haldor Thomar publishes that viruses cause cancer. In 1995, he and Carlton Gajdusek informed the National Academy of Sciences that “the study of visna in sheep would be the best test for candidate anti-HIV drugs.”

In 1962, under the cover of cancer research, the United States charts a path to commit premeditated murder, the “Special Virus” program begins on February 12th. Dr. Len Hayflick sets up a U.S. mycoplasma laboratory at Stanford University. Many believe the “Special Virus” program began in November 1961 with a Phizer contract.

Beginning in 1963 and for every year thereafter, the “Special Virus” program conducted annual progress reviews at Hershey Medical Center, Hershey, PA. The annual meetings are representative of the aggressive nature in which the United States pursued the development of AIDS.

In 1964, the United States Congress gave full support for the leukemia/lymphoma (AIDS) virus research.

In 1967, the National Academy of Sciences launched a full scale assault on Africa. The CIA (Technical Services Division) acknowledged its secret inoculator program.

In 1969, Fort Detrick told world scientists and the Pentagon asked for more money, they knew they could make AIDS. Nixon’s July 18 secret memo to Congress on “Overpopulation” serves as the start of the paper trail of the AIDS Holocaust.

In 1970, President Nixon signed PL91-213 and John D. Rockefeller, III became the “Population Czar.” Nixon’s August 10 National Security Memo leaves no doubt as to the genocidal nature of depopulation.

In 1971, Progress Report #8 is issued. The flowchart (pg. 61) will forever resolve the true laboratory birth origin of AIDS. Eventually the Special Virus program will issue 15 reports and over 20,000 scientific papers. The flowchart links every scientific paper, medical experiment and U.S. contract. The flowchart would remain “missing” until 1999. World scientists were stunned. The flowchart will gain in significance throughout the 21st Century. It is also clear the experiments conducted under Phase IV-A of the flowchart are our best route to better therapy and treatment for people living with HIV/AIDS. The first sixty pages of progress report #8 of the Special Virus program prove conclusively the specific goal of the program. By June 1977, the Special Virus program had produced 15, 000 gallons of AIDS. The AIDS virus was attached as complement to vaccines sent to Africa and Manhattan. However, because of the thoroughness of authors, like Dr. Robert E. Lee, we also learn the Stanford Mycoplasma Laboratory issues one of the first papers with AIDS in the title. “Viral Infections in Man Associated with Acquired Immunological Deficiency States.” The primary scientist, Dr. Thomas Merigan, was a “consultant” to the Special Virus program.

Progress Report # 8 at 104 - 106 proves Dr. Robert Gallo was secretly working on the development of AIDS with full support of the sector of the U.S. government that seeks to kill its citizens. Dr. Gallo can not explain why he excluded his role as a “project officer” for the Special Virus program from his biographical book. Dr. Gallo’s early work and discoveries will finally be viewed in relation to the flowchart. We now know where every experiment fits into the flowchart. The “research logic” is irrefutable evidence of a federal “Manhattan-style project” to develop a “contagious” cancer that “selectively” kills. Dr. Gallo’s 1971 paper is identical to his 1984 AIDS announcement.

Progress Report #8 at 273 - 286 proves we gave AIDS to monkeys. Since 1962, the United States and Dr. Robert Gallo have been inoculating monkeys and re-releasing them back into the wild. Thus, even government scientists are baffled that both HIV-1 and HIV-II would “suddenly emerge” from two distinct monkey ancestral relatives during the last 100 years. A 1999 Japanese study will ultimately prove the Man to Monkey origin of Monkey AIDS. The monkey experiments summary definitively proves Monkey AIDS is also man-made.

In 1972, the United States and the Soviet Union entered into a biological agreement that would signal the death knell for the Black Population. The 1972 agreement for collaboration and cooperation in the development of offensive biological agents is still U. S. policy.

In 1973, we find that world scientist, Garth Nicolson reports on his project, “Role of the Cell Surface in Escape From Immunological Surveillance.” His report is accompanied by seven published papers. Dr. Nicolson worked in conjunction with the Special Virus program from 1972 until 1978. Dr. Nicolson is considered by some to be Dr. Gallo’s “West Coast” counterpart. It is strongly held that because of Dr. Nicolson, Dr. Robert Gallo and Dr. Luc Montagnier would secretly meet in Southern California to coordinate what they would and would not say about the special virus development program.

In 1974, Furher Henry Kissinger releases his NSSM-200 (U.S. Plan to Address Overpopulation). It is the only issue of discussion at the World Population Conference in Bucharest, Romania.  The men in the shadows had won, the whole world agrees to secretly cull Africa’s population. Today it is Africa and other undesirables. Tomorrow it may be you.

In 1975, President Gerald Ford signs National Security Defense Memorandum #314. The United States implements the Kissinger NSSM-200.

In 1976, the United States issues Progress Report #13 of the Special Virus program. The report proves the United States had various international agreements with the Russians, Germans, British, French, Canadians and Japanese. The plot to kill Black people has wide international support. In March, the Special Virus began production of the AIDS virus, by June 1977, the program will have produced 15,000 gallons of AIDS. President Jimmy Carter allows for the continuation of the secret plan to cull the Black Population.

In 1977, Dr. Robert Gallo and the top Soviet Scientists meet to discuss the proliferation of the 15,000 gallons of AIDS. They attach AIDS as complement to the Small pox vaccine for Africa, and the “experimental” hepatitis B vaccine for Manhattan. According to authors June Goodfield and Alan Cantwell, it is Batch #751 that was administered in New York to thousands of innocent people. This government will never be able to repay the people for the social rape, humiliation and out right prejudice people with HIV/AIDS face on a daily basis. The men in the shadows of the AIDS curtain accurately calculated that you would not care if only Blacks and gays are dying. In fact you don’t care that nearly a half million Gulf War veterans are encumbered with something contagious. Soon there will be no more Black people and a confused military, older White people will start suddenly dying and you still won’t get it. Be here now for us, give us a chance to be there for you.

Suddenly, just as President Nixon had predicted, there was explosive death. On November 4, 1999, the U.S. White House announced,, “Within a period as short as five years, all new infections of HIV in the United States will be African American, ” At some point our experts must be allowed to begin the interface process of allowing the history of this virus program to count. It is ludicrous and preposterous to fail to review the U.S. virus program in which to elucidate the etiology of AIDS.

More of the history of the secret virus program can be found in the archives of Dr. John B. Moloney. A review of the files under Dr. Moloney’s name would further pinpoint additional dates and records consistent with one of the greatest hunts, capture and proliferation of disease in the history of the human race. We have found the missing link. It is the guts of the research logic of a federal program that seeks to kill. We have found a curtain of AIDS. We can identify some of the people who work in the shadows of the curtain. Dr. Robert Gallo and Dr. Garth Nicolson must lead us in review. In light of the attack mechanisms available in which to inhibit AIDS, it is time that not another person be stricken with this relic, synthetic mycoplasma chimera.

Help those of us who are still here to realize full and contributory lives. We are all one people.

On September 28, 1998 I filed suit against the United States for the “creation”, “production” and “proliferation” of AIDS. On November 7, 2000, the appeals court agreed with the lower court and held AIDS bioengineering as “frivolous.” The world continues to wait for the court to rule on the resubmitted issues. The court can not continue to simply brush aside our experts and the government’s flowchart.

I have been asked to give my perspective with regard to the federal program MK-NAOMI . MK-NAOMI is the code for the development of AIDS. The “MK” portion stands for the two co-authors of the AIDS virus, Robert Manaker and Paul Kotin. The “NAOMI” portion stands for “Negroes are Only Momentary Individuals.” The U.S. government continues to orchestrate silence from the very top echelons of the Congress and military. At present there is no accountability. The good people will ultimately create a tsunami of public outrage. We can not allow the state an autocratic right to govern outside of the Constitution. Our society is structured to hide crimes committed by the state, while punishing citizens for minor indiscretions. Their strategy focuses on the general confusion they can create via manipulation of the media. They are very good at what they do. We must become more focused in our continued presentation of the flowchart. The flowchart is the absolute missing link in proving the existence of a coordinated research program to develop a cancer virus that depletes the immune system. New diseases do not create old illnesses.

This compilation of court documents and correspondence is the true effort of one man’s achievement in solving the mystery of the origin of AIDS. We have found the origin of AIDS, it is us.

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Music/RadioRe: What Are You Listening To Right Now? by No2Atheism(m): 11:10pm On Sep 05, 2009
mukina2:
angryback off tongue
Or else what . . .
Music/RadioRe: What Are You Listening To Right Now? by No2Atheism(m): 11:09pm On Sep 05, 2009
bluespice:
wind am well - ikechukwu ft don jazzy n d'banj


gators i dont like rap but[b] wayne just makes me smile each time i hear him grin[/b]
Edit:  grin grin grin
Music/RadioRe: What Are You Listening To Right Now? by No2Atheism(m): 11:05pm On Sep 05, 2009
TOYOSI20:
Sean didn't sing that, . . . .and daft punk are musicians, as well as LMFAO, . . . LOL!

i know its crazy, i guess all the reasonable names are taken, . . . .

POST

Jay-z and Mary J Blige - Can't Knock the Hustle
Yea i also agree, daft punk are kinda musicians to a level sha a , their music is like a[b] brain washing method[/b] but its enjoyable all the same.

How come u say Sean Kingston did not sing that . . . but its his video now . . . what are ur evidences to prove such a statement
Music/RadioRe: What Are You Listening To Right Now? by No2Atheism(m): 10:59pm On Sep 05, 2009
@topic

M.I. - Safe

[flash=400,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/iUXsuObsmqk[/flash]
Music/RadioRe: What Are You Listening To Right Now? by No2Atheism(m): 10:54pm On Sep 05, 2009
mukina2:
One step at a time - Jordin Sparks

more than a song . been my rock smiley
Does it sound like asalamalakun or something grin grin grin grin
Music/RadioRe: What Are You Listening To Right Now? by No2Atheism(m): 10:53pm On Sep 05, 2009
TOYOSI20:
LMFAO - La La La. . . .~sounds like some daft punk techno ish, . . .i love it. . . . ~ kiss kiss

U know u is ma new obsession!! smiley
i don't get, are u saying that Sean Kingston has a daft punk kinda flava to him or wat . . .

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