MarieSucre: First of all, I do not want you dead. You! You alone! Want YOU dead. YOU keep glorifying death not I.
Life and Death are not on the same level of blessings. Light and Darkness are on opposite spectrums. But people prefer light and white and brightness. People glorify it. It does not mean that one ignores darkness. But one dissolves ones being in light and laughter more than the other.
Death is certain and unchangeable. I'd rather bother my head with something that is uncertain and changeable. I cannot influence death, ibut I can influence life.
As for the percentage, it means that no matter what there are people who are willingly to work for life.
The same with Islam, because there are percentage of muslims who subscribe to a violent ideology does not mean that all of islam is a write-off.
Very ominous analogy; describing death as darkness.
Why are you so limited with your thinking, just try thinking outside the box. I'm not here glorifying the macabre Western definition of death, the gore, the violence etc. I'm inviting you to a lighter understanding of life after this or in youthful slang, the after party; everlasting.
Com'on give ur mind a break! This world is far too complex for there not to be a deeper meaning to our daily toils. Im sure growing up for u was a struggle as it was for me, finding where u fit in, self development, hard... Cant you see the intricate processes involved in every aspect of life? Yet they are repeated over and over.
When you describe life as light and death as darkness remember you were once nothing only just a few years back. So it means now is your time to be tested.
You may ask, for what purpose does this all serve?
God created us to worship Him. Only a God that deserves to be worshipped will create the world and universe we live in. God Himself made His presence obvious so He placed trials and tribulations to test if our conviction is stronger than the love for this world. For indeed, it is love of material wealth that deceives a man.
It is after a religious man loses his family or money that he begins questioning God. If his life went smoothe, he would be like an angel. But God already has angels, He deserves worship from beings that surmount all obstacles for His Pleasure. He deserves it, not wants or needs it.
MarieSucre: Did you even read the article attached or you just picked the headline and ran four-forty to come and meet me. The woman wants to dies because she is tired of the way her life has become, either by the choices she has made or the choices her children are making.
Some people actually enjoy life and living life to the fullest. e.g
Here are some people who enjoy living life and will not stop till death calls them:-
3)106-year-old Pan Xiting and 81-year-old Chen Adi got married in east China's Zhejiang province. believe-or-not..co.ke/2007/10/new-world-record-of-oldest-groom-and.html?m=1
If you wanna die early, as I said in another comment, you need to stop wasting your time replying to me on nairaland, this very moment as soon as you read this comment, pack your bags and go to Syria, gain entry into ISIS held territory, before this time tomorrow you should already be in AlJannah. Best of luck friend. I am rooting for you.
It seems my point flew right passed you, maybe ur getting old!
Life is a blessing just as death is a blessing. But you striving to negate one for the other is a fools wish.
You mentioned examples that cant even be considered a percentage of the octogenarian generation still alive today. Unlike the fun blissfull image ur trying to paint of life over 80, the reality is far more stark. Ur focus group doesnt do justice to the hundreds of millions of elderly ppl abandoned in old homes and ignored by their familia. But still, life is a great blessing.
U want me dead so bad yet you advocate life so much. I must constitute a deep anxiety u have going on; fear of death possibly?
I would love to defend Muslims in war-torn parts of the world from despotic tyrants and religious oppression. I would feel honored if chosen by God to fight until oppression seizes and Islam is dominant, I know no greater calling.
But to use such a lofty pursuit to scorn me only belittles what u represent, vanity. You will never attain what you are seeking unless God Wills it.
daretodiffer: I have been wanting to tell you to shut da fvck up and let others be...No be by force na. Only if I had known.....
You call yourself a Muslim but you wish such evil on those who haven't done anything to harm you directly or indirectly. I am sorry to say you are a HYPOCRITE, a detestable human being, a filth and a very big buffoon.
Get a fvcking life! People cannot have the same faith as you do! If you paid attention to your Qur'an, you would have come across a verse where God told you that to yours is yours and to theirs is theirs, basically Allah asked you to know that not everyone will ever be a Muslim and vice versa. That is to say, mind your damn business!!!
U dumb hoe, expletives barely hide inanity. You think u got balls to take me on bih?
Bayonle10: i know its just like every regular place,you dont need to be telling me and i dont think i need to be telling you too,i was just trying to tell you it has few years left. this sura is nothing,i underatand the killings here ,i will say the same thing if i'm the author of the quran.but me i will be more carefull and i wont do that kind overdo wey bro muhammad do wey con burst ihn lies
Ah ah u don break into vernacular and i tho we're having an academic debate...
What is all this. Medina and Syria has a special place in your heart. Who dat one epp? Go and tell all the yazidi women raped and murdered by ISIS that they have a special place in your heart and see what they will tell you.
Sweetheart I don't fear death. But I do not put it as the focus of my life. For me death is solved, it is certain unchangeable so why bother. But life is uncertain, how I live my life can be changed, can be modified. My path can either lead me to stay in my village or across the seven continents either to do great things.
I am not paralysed by death or even saddenend, I am paralysed by the wonders of life and what I hope to achieve and scared if I do not achieve them.
As for the scary horror film part about the Allah swt, aren't you tired of portraying your God as a cartoon villain.
"You shall drink boiling water, women shall be dragged up by their hair and breast, a stone shall be used to continously break his head"
Aren't you tired of all these. Use your head.
THE SAME REASON YOU DISMISS ALL THE OTHER GODS BUT YOUR OWN IS THE SAME REASON I DISMISS YOURS TOO.
Now ur just groping for a point, waffling like a bleeting sheep.
Your retort is corny. You are a living caricature. Yazidis are heretics, couldnt give a sh*it if they were raped or tossed off a building, im not responsible for them.
You find me a more apt description of God or gods. One that can stand the test of time.
Ya habibty return to Islam. Dont be disillusioned by the worldly life, fleeting. Life aint easy but when u have hope in an afterlife, life on earth becomes secondary. Learn your purpose in life and cultivate the next generation of monotheists and mujahideen. We are all cheering for ur return.
Bayonle10: Life isn't fair to anybody,we re in it together .yes me and you. And on your question ,bomb mekka ?? Don't you know a missile was launch few years ago to mekka and they do something to it which prevent it from landing,you are ignorant that's why you think I'm on a drug for saying something that explain how mekka is not special . Its been prophesize that they will later destroy mekka ,what else . You will believe this ? Do you know Muhammad before he died said something that can be only translated to two things .he said no one will be alive after 100 years,maybe 100years of age or 100years to that time both are not true.
Huhhh dude, Mecca can be attacked and has been attacked.. Mecca is a place.
Qur'an
2:191 "And fight not with them at Al-Masjid-al-Haram (the sanctuary at Makkah), unless they (first) fight you there. But if they attack you, then kill them."
Bayonle10: Yes Alhamdulillah in all situation,If your sister was raped you will be shouting Alhamdulillah I don't wish you that.
The fear religions are banking on is the fear of death and what comes after it (life after death) . All those things don't exist.once you ve died you are gone forever .
And all those people that lost their life fighting for Islam are not dumb honestly.
You mean you will keep fighting for Islam to be the only religion left,no wonder people are saying Islam is not a religion of peace.bokoharam and other terrorist group are fighting for Islam already ,you ve stylishly say you are on a mission (keep) to eradicate all other religion ,that means more people will still die or how will you convert those Christians who are more than you ? Islam do not tolerate other religions and that is the opposite of peace .
Why should she believe at the point of death that Allah is the true God,if Allah shows a real sign,I mean real sign she's gon believe but he wont show any damnn sign. Let me ask you does death has a single thing to do with Allah? How are you sure of that answer in your mind ? Quran chapter India verse Somalia ?
You are talking about hope ,don't you know where there is hope there are expectations ,and when you have expectations you could be disappointed .can't you link that disappointment to depression. If I'm still a muslim will be hoping to see God ? No,I will be hoping to achieve things I can godlessly .and without God I still can achieve those things ,millions of religious people had died of depression,millions of non believers had died of depression so it has nothing to do with God .
The time we are wasting don't amount to nothing it amount to something incase you don't know,we are trying to tell people this life is short and after it is NOTHING,so everybody should enjoy their lives,their rights before it end. That afterlife that you people are shouting is the real NOTHING. people are desperate to know god and they came up with something and that thing is religion,fabricated perfected lies.
The bokoharams too hold that believe that they will be rewarded after all they are doing. You know what ? I don't actually like associating bokoharams with Islam but they are Muslims bruh,had it been Quran doesn't have such weakness there wont be bokoharam or at least they wont be using Quran . What is the essense of life when you are being govern by a religion that is sending freedom to the pit ? For we to be considered slave ,we will have something we are doing for alla ,its not as if we are cutting the bushes that serve as hair growing around Allah's scrotum sack,its not as if we are doing anything for him except solat which he's not even converting to food ,it has no meaning to me because Allah spent 300,000 years to create earth and heaven and he also gave people the ability to be mocking him .(a day of Allah equals 50,000 years and there are contradictions but lets say he created heaven and earth in 6days)
Dude ur too sloppy! Break ur sh*it into small readable paragraphs, i know ur anxious to get it all out at once but nothing will be achieved if you blurt it all at once. #Chill
I think it's suffice to bank on a thing that can 'possibly' determine ur eternity. Life shares equal importance with death.
Muslims dont fear dying we revere its role and expect it.
Let's play a game of probability. You toss a coin...One side u die nothing happens, other side u die and you are judged; 50/50 right?
If you win we both win, since we both become nothing. If I win you will lose, since you fit the description of an inhabitant of hell. Now, by what standard are Muslims greater losers??! This life is temporary however way we decide to live it. Time is against us all.
Islam will dominate all people and ways of life, whether it be through military conquests or intellectual debates. Subjugating others is our forte, i am not an apologist.
Belief is intuitive, you shouldnt be taught that you came about as a product of conception. If you didnt see your parents Im sure you wouldnt be hindered from believing u have parents right? The footprint is all u need.
Now use this empirical method and apply it to the world. You see the footprint of a higher power everywhere so intuitively you should strive to connect with Him and dropĺ any emotional dogma.
Dude your last paragraph was all over...
One of Allah's attributes is Al Hameed, Praise worthy free of need. The servitude being discussed here is not that of a housemaid. We are referring to a servitude that all animate and inanimate creations of Allah share, subservience and worship. Through this Allah selects some above others.
Trials and tribulation discern the believing servant from the disbelieving but we are all His servants. If He chooses Allah could arch your back to force you to prostrate against your will. He could force you to give charity for His cause and even die for His cause.
Not all the ppl joining boko haram are Muslims, some are after revenge, others are after riches.
Bayonle10: Yes a little bit . Its a gradual process I promise you in 500 years Islam will be gone. Another missile will be launched to kaaba by an Islamic nation and our generations will be free from spending millions going to useless hajj,I will understand if someone took the exact money for a trip to hajj to south Sudan or one poor country.
Do you know king Abdullah's of Saudi's daughters ran away with their mothers after years of being detained doing nothing ? Do you know women's aren't allow to drive cars in Saudi ? Do you know you cant just talk to a girl on the street of Saudi ? Do you know there are little freedom in said arabia
Dude ur just hoping wagons... Stop with the emotional humanist argument! Repression is a social disease not a religious one.
Dude I see king fahd as an apostate just as i see you! I dont give a fvck about the both of u!
Youre just a sob story of how life was so unkind and you cant believe God could be so wicked... That's all emotion bruh and nothing to do with empirical studies.
God is God; nothing like Him so stop trying to humanize Him.
MarieSucre: Wooow your logic is impeccable. Why are you still here with us? Why are you still on nairaland?
I suggest that maybe... just maybe, you could travel to Syria and fight. This is in order to hurry along your death. You can kill 2 birds with one stone, 1) Die a honourable death that will not be seen as suicide. 2) Hasten your entry into heaven before you get "old and decrepit" like us.
So whadya say??
As you sow you shall reap. A Muslim says Alhumdulillah in all situations. We glorify life just as we glorify death, it's all good from God. We are grateful.
You hate death, dont want to be reminded of its imminence, hope to avoid it even at your own detriment... Paralyzed by its trail! Saddened by its ramifications...
Syria has its place in our hearts just as Medina has its place. We are one body. Our predecessors spilled blood and sacrificed their lives for Islam to surpass all ways of life. The fact we are having this convo freely is testament of their sacrifices. Muslims will continue striving until Allah alone is worshipped.
You will disbelieve even if a sign as glaring as death stared at you right in the face.
Do you not anticipate a future for your earthly wisdom? Afterall, you invested time and money trying to perfect it and convince others of your way; to what end? Nothingness cant offer remunerations. The depression you feel must be conpensated right? At least justified...
After this conversation, you are left with two options: hope or hopelessness. Either you hope to gain something or you are hopeless of any gain. The later is the begining of severe cerebral depression and possibly bipolar disorder.
Im hopeful that i will be rewarded for my toils so I am only encouraged to work harder and persevere. And when death comes my way, however way, I say Alhumdulillah exam is over!
Bayonle10: When someone or something owe you something,you can force it .can you force science ? So science owe us nothing I'm saying again. Did Richard Gatling who invented gun owe the police,thieves or the terrorist something. ?? Why are they using gun in killing people ?? Bro use your brain ... How can you conclude that if this life wasn't a test we will all be Muslims ?? What about other religions. ?? There are hundreds of religions in the world and you selfishly picked yours as the best ?? Well-done dindinrin.
Wait when I said designed it was in reference to what you said earlier so how on earth will I still hold that shittyyy belief that there was this supreme designer .at some stage when I know Islam is fake I still believe there will be a supreme being but at this point when i go a lil bit further its getting clear that he doesn't exist.
On mindless designer it is possible.infact very possible.
You ve completely dropped the case of errors on heavens and the earth
Bayonle10: You are being programed by religion not to see the truth,do you think telling me one does not have to see alla makes sense ? Those are the basic lies used in covering lies and there are many of them. You are still a servant of something that doesn't exist but I'm not.ok ? Yes our entire being demonstrate artistry but not of alla,its the atistry of nature . When you are talking of designer abi ? Where does the universe start from or do you think it will have end ? Who created that designer ? Everything has beginning why is he special ? Because a book said so ? You are an idiot . The big bang is just a thory,and theory are not 100% accurate unless they prove it ,can science go back in time to prove that to you ? Science owe us nothing. Its just like an FBI investigation on gunshot,they will tell you where the bullet comes from but not who pull the trigger,before science conclude on something there are many factors they consider. """" In 1964 the cosmic microwave background radiation was discovered, which was crucial evidence in favor of the Big Bang model, since that theory predicted the existence of background radiation throughout the universe before it was discovered.""""
And about the heart surgery which you are dragging towards dream. ?? Did muhama mentioned dream,if its a dream he would have said in his dream but he said nothing of such but you are the one that is dragging it towards dream.
Ur just a simpleton trying out different cloaks! If science owes u nothing why are you using embryology to discredit a Hadith? U cant have ur cake and eat it!
Im not the one quoting scientific concepts...
This life is a test. If it werent we'd all be Muslims!
You mention nature??! Isnt 'nothing' the equivalent of nature? Am I missing something? U said nature designed us... hmmm are u on crack ma nigga?
If nature has a mind to design then surely it will have laws that wont be any different to that of a deity. Ive never heard of a mindless designer, accountant before...
Dude stop smoking on dubs. Allow ur brain to cultivate cells, ull thank me later!
Bayonle10: You didn't talk about mistake of heaven and heart.i pardon you CUs you cant say shhit. And about the sperm, semen or whatever,he muhama don't even there is something called sperm and alla didn't tell him so I think I state what's impossible for him to know.sorry for that ,what about the omission of female contribution ? Egg. And do you think prophet is talking about 50/50 or you are trying to get an excuse for him when he said the determining factor is based on the first person to discharge. Haba ?? I dont claim to be rational,some people disbelief for the wrong reason but I know I'm do not disbelief for the wrong reason.
You said those people are not using technology,are they not talking to God ? What is technology before ala ? They should provide better explanation than science since they re connecting with God
Maybe you think knowing biology is the key to paradise hahaha!! The Qur'an is a book of signs not science. Should the Qur'an mention quartz too? 118 elements? What of black holes? What about bronchi and alveoli? Get with the program!
Obviously mentioning the egg was not relevant for the conviction of these men. If egg was mentioned u can imagine the castigation... O he copied this! O this is so obvious? he's quoting what we already know!
MarieSucre: First step:- Stop waiting for Yawm Alqiyamah as if that is the only meaningful event to you life. Live. Live. Live. Don't end up a mujahideen, you will bring about greater disgrace to your Ummah. Mujahideen only think about death.
Live for what? Ur so primitive!
When u live live live you do know that eventually you will age and become decrepit right? You do know that you will return to the baby like state you started with right? Heard of Alzeimers bih?
Ud be an ugly liability on ur children and great grandchildren... Ur living will eventually haunt you and youd regret not dieing like most of ur mates.
Remember, ppl are born every second so the likelyhood of living with ur mates get slimmer as time passes. Eventually ull be surrounded by new faces, ppl who dont give a shit about how sexy u once looked or how many married men u appropriated. If u have life insurance or property these new faces will harbor ill feelings and desire ur swift passing!
So will i rather live live live than die and begin enjoying the fruits of my deeds at a young age? HECK NO!
Bayonle10: Did someone also promised you that too ? But if I should give an advice to you,it would be watch what you will be eating ,regular exercise etc
I'm begging you think think and think, break rules by questioning Islam. Angels Perform Open-Heart Surgery on Muhammad when he was young and he claimed it was filled with faith and wisdom. The heart's main function is to pump blood around the body, it cant store wisdom or faith.....many many things but you believe blindly . I know the importance of religion but we have hundreds of unnecessary things,things that has substitute the love we should have for one another. A single hand working is better than millions begging god for the same task ,he won't answer and its not his fault we are calling someone that is not there ,even if he exist he give zero Bleep about us . Bro no book can be self authenticating be it Quran or bible orr anybook,why should we believe prophet muhammad was a true messanger of God ,the answer will be "lahkodi ja akum rosulu kinikan kinikan" (from a book written by him) why should we believe Quran is a true word of God ? Ans=suratul Monsurat chapter 1 vs 419 . If God is really there and he's as strong as people are saying he should be showing real sign,You know extraordinary claims require extraordinary backup evidence ,he shouldn't just be getting credits for everything.we are the one dragging everything to his name,he's responsible for tsunami and not for robbery. It's not possible for me to wash away what you ve been doing since birth but be honest with yourself when you see lies ,when you believed a book is 100% perfect since you're a kid no doubt you will be blind to its flaws,errors etc
Again all I see is raging stupidity. One does not have to see Allah my nigga!
Allah is Proud and Benevolent, and we are His servants.
When I see things around me I thank Allah, how else would i have been able to see without His permission?
Your entire being demonstrates artistry! How can there be design without a designer? Do you honestly believe u were created in a accident as cataclysmic as a cosmic bomb? Put ur science to the test and quit being a whining hypocrite. Blow something up and see how much order and beauty u create. Remember ur smarter than the nothing that created us all so ur explosion should bring about something far more impressive and tangible.
U talk of open heart surgery, what of the metaphysical world, i.e. dream? Is it impossible to have a surgery in dreams? And if it is possible in dreams then surely it is possible in real life since both are the products of nothing right?? Or does nothing have rules that ur not telling me about? Is it not the mind that determines what is physical? Maybe urs is fucking with you!!
Bayonle10: "Whoever says (something) about the Qur'an according to his own opinion and he is correct, yet he has committed a mistake."
There are many tafsir and all of them are opinion based. how is it possible that Qur'an while being clear and apparent most of the time still has to be relied on Tafseer? Quran needs a lawyer that will translate it to suit what they wanted right ?
Keep your math to yourself CUs Allah has foh e lenu Quran 41: 12 So He completed them (heavens) as seven firmaments in Two days and.
Quran 41: 9 Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?
Quran 7: 54 Your gurdian-Lord is Allah who created the heavens and earth in Six Days
So what else can you say? I guess you will create your own calculatorthat will add 2+2=6 ,2-6=2 ,2/6=2 Didn't he break your heart,trust and energy ? He actually did,but I know you will still come up with an excuse
What religion does to brain is not good,you are all about excuses. Remember a day of Allah is 50,000years ours and we are sure he's talking about the time it took him to complete which is 50,000 x 6 or 8
You have nothing to say on embryology CUs Muhammad fuckedd you up on that,if na exam he go fail 0/100 . He's just all about sperm sperm sperm,he didn't mention egg that the sperm will fertilize at all. He also said when he was asked about the roles father and mother plays in producing male or female offspring . He actually said """do you not know that man’s discharge is thick and white and woman’s is yellow and thin If any of these fluids becomes dominant, the offspring will take its sex and resemblance by Allah’s leave. Hence, if the man’s is more than the woman’s, the child will be male, by Allah’s leave. If the woman’s discharge is more than the man’s, then the child will be female, by Allah’s leave""" No be Allah's leave alone na Allah's tree
Dude fundamentally and categorically ur stupid!
When ur reading a story book in a foreign language do you not request a translation? So guess what u simpleton, the Qur'an isnt a story book, it's not nursery rhymes either! And not only will u need a translation, ull also need a tafsir from a puritan scholar.
The Qur'an is the height of intellectual debasement. You cannot use ur own head interpret the Qur'an! Only the Qur'an can interpret the Qur'an.
Ur not reaonable, logical nor rational so why the shallow facade? We see right through u!
Before ur existence ppl survived and after the blight u think u caused ppl will continue surviving. By ppl Im referring to Muslims.
Sperm is not used in the Qur'an, so correct ur wording, ur prosing and bleeding so much ignorance. The word used in the Qur'an is maa' or water or semen. Sperm is molecular, meaning you will need to zoom in with a microscope... The Qur'an is a clear Book for all ages.
The last paragraph is a Hadith reference to chromosomes. The chromosomes determines the gender of a child. Pre Islamic beliefs castigated the woman for defining the gender of a child, while the hadith makes it 50/50 which modern science agrees with. U have to keep in ur dull head that these ppl were not using technology. Ask urself which one is closer to what we know today, this notion or the pre Islamic notio?