Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:39pm On May 20, 2020 |
Ayekotoo: Sam Omaseye, Editor - in-chief, The Nation Newspaper has never denied being Yoruba.
Oritse Femi has never denied being of Yoruba subgroup.
Omawunmi speaks her Itsekiri dialect with Kenny Ogungbe of Kennis Fm who happens to be an Ijebu man often. I cannot argue with you cos I don't want this thread to continue in Yoruba issues. Go to the streets of Warri, Sapele, Koko and take a sample for yourself. I doubt somebody like you has ever stepped his feet into Warri. Itsekiris know that they have a strong affinity with Yoruba, but for example, majority of them do not speak or understand Oyo language (which has become the lingua franca of Yorubaland). Rather they (Itsekiris) have integrated deeply with the Nigerdeltan pidgin English culture of Warri. Itsekiris cannot fit into the Yoruba socio-cultural way of life. The case of Itsekiri is just like that of Anioma people or Delta Igbos. Most of them do not understand or speak Central Igbo dialect, hence they find it difficult to assimilate with SErn Igbos. Put an Itsekiri person in the midst of Yorubas & Nigerdeltans and watch which circle the Itsekiri person will gravitate to. Cc forgiveness, sunshineg5 |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:32pm On May 20, 2020 |
Nwanyiogwashi: With 6 local government of Urhobo or are you adding okpe kingdom and isoko as part of Urhobo Lol, don't even bring the balkanization into the topic cos we know that you Aniomas are far more balkanized than Urhobos. Most of your people identify firstly as Ika, Ukwuani or Enuani before Anioma. Anioma is just a political identity to unify your people. |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:31pm On May 20, 2020 |
senatordave1: Sorry,itsekiris outnumber isokos Itsekiris cannot outnumber Isokos. Impossible. Itsekiris are found in 3 LGAs which they heavily share with Ijaws & Urhobos almost 50-50 in some cases. While the 2 Isoko LGAs are exclusively Isoko and have a high indigenous population. Isokos are up to 1 million in my estimates but Itsekiris are not. Warri is not Isoko homeland, but you find more Isokos in Warri than you find Itsekiris. Outside Delta state and Ajegunle (Lagos), you hardly find Itsekiris anywhere else. But Isokos are more visible in other places. |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:25pm On May 20, 2020 |
darfay: I'm not talking of indigenous population but rather cosmopolitan population, just like lagos cosmopolitan population is majority Yoruba, indegenious lagos Yoruba people are very extremely hard to come by, infact I only met few in the University because catchment
I'm talking of the cosmopolitan population of warri in warri south as being made up of a very vast and significant urhobo population which is outside urhobo zone and often not included For me, I am too enlightened to judge the population of an ethnic group exclusively with the census figures or voters figures of their LGAs. Only people with low intelligence do that. I look at the settlements patters, the migrations, the birthrates and many other factors before I conclude. Urhobos outnumber Aniomas (in Delta state) but the margin is not as wide as many people claim. Outside Delta state it is a different ballgame. There are many Anioma speaking towns in Rivers, Edo and the SE. |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:59pm On May 19, 2020 |
darfay: Guy leave us alone na
Go and face your oyo state where your nature resources includes ewedu mining, skull mining among others. Igbos in Lagos State have been over your slum settlements and building big houss Seriously, this Sunshineg5 of a person just came to destroy this nice thread created by Mystiquefia with his Yoruba insecurities. He should have just been ignored from the beginning. |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:56pm On May 19, 2020 |
SocialJustice: You're actually an ignorant tribal bigot.
The epicentre of Warri, Effurun is it an Urhobo or Ijaw or itsekiri community? Is Udu an itsekiri community?
The rest of Warri is Warri South and North, Warri southwest is somewhere else.
I personally do not care of the Isokos because they are inconsequential in the scope of things. I don't even know where you guys are hiding in the Delta South senatorial District.
You sound like us, eat like us, dress like us, even the ANIOMAs are more distinct from Igbo than Isokos are from Urhobo.
It is this funny behaviour that led to that Isoko agitator paying the ultimate price with no Urhobo intervention. With Ijaw and Itsekiri being mostly united, see what Ekpemupolo and Emami were able to achieve.
Nobody knows everything completely, even when I'm wrong I take correction here. Say what you have to say and don't make it sound like there's one thing special about the Isokos.
Being loud is not even the problem urhobo has, it is disunity, disunity started by Isokos and Okpes and is spreading through Urhobo with every kingdom wanting to act independent of the other whereas we all share one ancestral link. I don't know where Isokos are from though, don't care. Where are you from if I may ask pls. |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:55pm On May 19, 2020 |
forgiveness: The whole wide world knows Warri belongs to Itshekiris just like Bakassi belongs to Cameroun.
Pray Nigeria remains one else Agbassa and all the lands taken by force by Ijaws will be taken without firing a bullet just like Bakassi was taken without a bullet but if dem want dem fit challenge world court.  You are just being a clown right now. I am not in the mood for trolling. Bye. |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:53pm On May 19, 2020 |
darfay: I still think Urhobos are the majority by an increasing margin in Delta state. Most of the figures for urhobo population usually excludes warri south which contains the largest city in the state and the urhobo population should be around 40-50% percent there. Adding that would give them a very clear margin over the Anioma people plus the gap keeps increasing Has there been any official figures for Urhobo population before? Apart from those of the colonial era? Urhobo Indigenes of Warri south are up to half of the LGAs Indigenes, yes. But Warri south (Warri urban proper) itself does not really have much indigenes. The Indigenes are few in numbers. Do u think Agbassa & Okere-Urhobo Indigenes are significant enough to cause a significant change to Urhobo numbers? I don't think so. |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:47pm On May 19, 2020 |
Sunshineg5: Do you read what you post
Where did Atta say he is came from Kwararafa to conquer Akoto or the nonsense you wrote
The Atta even claimed that Igala and igbos were the first People in Nigeria or something. See, abeg, I am allergic to people with low intelligence. Did I tell you that Kwararafan conquest of Igala land is in that link? Abeg, I only engage intelligent people with something upstairs. |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:46pm On May 19, 2020 |
Tobrasky: Of course we are Igbos, we RESEMBLE Afonja abi Ishan to you? see this guy ooo . Ok let me make it easier for you. My question was, can any tribe you come from... boast of this preponderance of human resources, the list too plenty sef but make I indulge you on the few already listed:
Gebrel Ifeanyi Ogbechi Rainoil
Benedict Peters Aiteo Group
Dame Winifred Akpani Northwest petroleum and Gas
Prof. Steve Agwo Okecha, renowned academic, author of international repute and elder statesman
Dennis Osadebe, politician, poet, journalist and former premier of the now defunct Mid-Western Region of Nigeria, which now comprises Edo and Delta State.
Sebastine Okoh >> SSA To Deputy Senate President ( CEO Stiinos)
Zulu Sofola, the first published female Nigerian playwright and dramatist and first female Professor of Theater Arts in Africa.
Buchi Emecheta, Nigerian-born British novelist
Godwin Emefiele, the Governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria.
Gift Kenneth >> CEO GSP Global Services
Ifeanyi Okowa, former Nigerian Senator and Executive Governor of Delta State
Austine "Jay-Jay" Okocha, former Captain of Super Eagles of Nigeria
Sunday Oliseh, former Captain of super Eagles of Nigeria
Stephen Okechukwu Keshi, former Super Eagles captain and Malian National Football Team Coach
Nduka Ugbade, Nigeria's former football player and the first African to lift the world cup
Demas Nwoko, prominent Sculptor of Nigeria
Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, the current Managing Director of World Bank
Elizabeth Isichei, prominent historian
Obi Prof Joseph Chike Edozien, the Asagba of Asaba
Emmanuel Ibe Kachikwu, Minister of State for Petroleum
Jim Ovia, M/D Zenith Bank
Tony Elumelu, Chairman of Heirs Holdings, the United Bank for Africa, Transcorp and founder of The Tony Elumelu Foundation
Air-Marshal Paul Dike, former Chief of Defence Staff of Nigeria NASA
Joy Ogwu, former Mangaging Director of Nigeria Institute of International Affairs
Patrick Utomi, Presidential Candidate and Founder of Lagos Business School
Phillip Asiodu, former Federal Minister
Nduka Odizor, former Lawn tennis player
Maryam Babangida, wife of General Ibrahim Babangida
Chief. Sonny Iwedike Odogwu, business mogul
Chukwurah Joseph Udeh OFR, former Comptroller-General Nigerian Immigration Service Obi senator Nosike Ikpo, former Senator of the Federal Republic
Chief Sabastine Adigwe, former MD, Afribank NIgeria PLC
Godswill Obielum, former Governorship Aspirant, Delta State
Peter Okocha, Governorship aspirant, Delta State and Business Mongul
Eddy Egwuenu, distinguished banker, co-founder Zenith Bank Dr. Newton Jibunor, famous Sahara traveller
Dr. Cyril Uchenna Gwam, diplomat, international civil servant and international environmentalist
Bonny B. N. Umeadi PhD, Technologist and Inventor of Micro/Nanosensor Devices to monitor oil and gas pipeline system
Arc. Kester Ifeadi, Chairman/CEO Contemporary Group and President Organisation For the Advancement of Anioma Culture(OFAAC)
Engr. Emma Onyekwene, MD/CEO, Coolman Oil Services
Chief G.N. Ogwude (Late), Mathematician and Academician
Colonel Joseph "Hannibal" Achuzie
Chief Epiphany Azinge, a Professor and a Senior Advocate of Nigeria. Former Director of Nigerian Institute of Advance Legal Studies.(NIALS).
I'm waiting. Aniomas have produce more successful people than Urhobos. This one cannot be argued. But Urhobos have still done fairly well in their own way. |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:43pm On May 19, 2020 |
Seerade029: Are southern igalas those who reside in Anambra? If not, who are the northern igalas and southern igalas Southern Igalas are Ibaji, Olamaboro & Igalamela-Odolu LGAs. They all share boundary with Anambra, Enugu & Edo states. The remaining 5 LGAs are Northern Igala. Igala speakers in Anambra & Delta have been heavily Igbonized. Those ones are not really counted or regarded as Igalas. |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:39pm On May 19, 2020 |
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Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:38pm On May 19, 2020 |
Seerade029: Don't tell me you don't understand this.
This is igala language The similarities is 70%
yii or Iko yii - This time Egba le or Iko le - That time Ojo - Day Ane - Night Ona - Tomorrow Eñini - Today Otona - Next tomorrow Iko duu - Every time Aladi - Week Aladi ki a wa - the week that is coming Ochu - Month Odo - Year Ochu ekeji - Second month Aladi yii - This Week Onale - Yesterday
Je - Eat Ta - Sell Lolu- Sleep Kwu - Die M’omi - Drink water W’ane - Fall to the ground N’eti - Listen Chi - Open Ido - Dance Jo - Burn Uko- Cough Gwu - Pound Kpa - Kill K’eli - Sing Ko - Write Ja - Fight Umi - Rest Uche - Work Gb’ane - Sweep Lo - Go Akwu - Cry Feh - Blow Y’uyo - Rejoice Cc forgiveness |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:35pm On May 19, 2020 |
forgiveness: Can you please show me the poll result? don't run away like you did the other day when we had Jos vs Ibadan debat.  I didn't run away from that thread. The mods placed an automatic ban on that thread and I was banned for every post I made. I will create a thread concerning all this tomorrow. For now, let us leave this thread for Urhobos & Aniomas (Deltans). Delta state is my home away from home since I was born and bred there. |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:33pm On May 19, 2020 |
Sunshineg5: Oh very smart one
Yorubas actually identify by different names before British
The Central Yorubas were recognize as Akus
Southern and Western Yorubas were called Nago
And North Yorubas were called Oyos or Oyo oba
And Eastern Yoruba were called Olukumi
More importantly, Oh smart one, we had the ifa religion which united us also known as Odu Ifa which the Igalas don't practice. You and forgiveness should read what the Attah of Igala land had to say about IFA. You can clearly see where he said Igalas are Yorubas with Kwararafan influences. Abeg, I don't want this thread to be derailed with Yoruba issues. I think I will open another thread for this issue. Igbos & Yorubas must not project their insecurities into every single minorities thread. This thread is not for SW Yorubas & SE Igbos. |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:27pm On May 19, 2020 |
forgiveness: Bloody liar. Olukumi, Itshekiri and Ilaje are Yorubas in Delta State.
Bloody liar. Ilaje are Yorubas and they never denied it FOR ONCE.  There is no town in Delta state that is indigenously Ilaje. If there is pls mention that town. Ilajes are settlers in Delta state. Olukumis are of Yoruba origin, but they are surrounded by Igbo settlements and have been heavily Igbonized. They now identify as Enuani, Anioma or Delta Igbos and not Yoruba. Infact, the time Olukumis left the west, there was nothing like pan Yoruba identity at that time. Itsekiris have not come out to officially tell the world that they are Yorubas. Go to Warri and address Itsekiris as Yorubas (95% of them reject it). |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:22pm On May 19, 2020 |
Sunshineg5: The "very smart boy" will never give any solid proof outside some questionable studies, if he has any.
He knows everything about Nigeria simply because he came from jos and lived in among Igbos who taught him how to hate.
To him, the nonsense he wrote about conquest of Ishekiris and Igala without any documented evidence is sufficient empirical evidence.
Hence, anyone that questions him becomes dumb. I don't understand. What link do you need? Do u need a link to show you that Igala is a Yoruboid language? Or you need a link to show that Itsekiri (Warri kingdom) was founded by a Benin prince? Itsekiris were not conquered by war. They were only unified under one crown by a Benin prince. It was the Okpotos (Igalas) that were conquered by war. |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:19pm On May 19, 2020 |
forgiveness: The whole of Warri belongs to Itshekiri. The case has been won in court. Sapele was won by Uhrobo. Itsekiris won ownership of Agbassa land but lost that of Okere-Urhobo  Besides, can the Itsekiris go and chase the Urhobos out of Agbassa land? Do u know Warri well? Pls list the parts of Warri urban that are Itsekiri dominated or Itsekiri controlled. Itsekiris can never take Warri. It can never happen. |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:16pm On May 19, 2020 |
forgiveness: Can you please show me proof Igala were Yoruba people?  First of all, what is Yoruba? Was Yoruba existing as an ethnic group outside Oyo 150 years ago? Did Ijebus, Egbas, Okuns, Ekitis, Ijeshas, Ikales, Aworis e.t.c identify themselves as Yorubas in pre-colonial times? Hell no they didn't. All the Yoruba speaking tribes were merged together under the Yoruba umbrella by the British colonial masters. Igalas speak a Yoruba based language or Yoruboid language just like the Itsekiris (according to linguists). Google is your friend. Igalas were neighbors to Yoruba speaking Okun people until Ebiras came and put them asunder. Just like Okun, Igalas were a Yoruba speaking people. And shared boundary with other Yoruba speakers before Kwararafan colonization came. |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:10pm On May 19, 2020 |
Nwanyiogwashi: Till tomorrow Urhobo are not the largest in Delta state forget what you hear from people. If you believe that Urhobo people are the largest then ijaw are the 4th largest in Nigeria according to their claim too.If a proper census is conducted today with out adding isoko as Urhobo you will know that it all lies I lived most of my life in Delta state, so I am not just relying on what people say. Urhobos outnumber Aniomas, but with a small margin. Both of you are almost the same. |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:08pm On May 19, 2020 |
SocialJustice: Oh really, I don't have the facts and figures so can't dispute.
At the end of the day, this discussion is still unnecessary, the Hausa/Fulani with their large undisputed population are mostly a nuisance and pest to the entirety of Nigeria as almost all negative HDI index Nigeria has are domiciled in the North - Poverty, sickness, out of school children, poor hygiene, child marriage and so on.
Take the itsekiris on the other hand, small ethnic group but powerful politically and economically. Any outsider would think The Olu of Warri is in total control of Warri the same way the Oba of Benin controls Benin city. The Olu of Warri is not in total control of Warri. |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:07pm On May 19, 2020 |
BrownLondon: Very good, itshekiri people seems to have a great connection with us, I was surprised when I heard Omawumi, the popular Hip hop star is not Yoruba.
However, they should be the one claiming us albeit I understand you clearly now.
As for Nowenuse , he's a famous Yoruba hater here, he once claimed His Poor Plateau state will jump Nassarawa to join the Dead Biafra, that wrecked state.
Yoruba language is arguably the most spoken second language in Nigeria, that's why those guys want to attach one Igala with us. If you be musician and you no dey add Yoruba to your lyrics, nah OYO you dey.
Have you ever seen a Yoruba man that can speak Igbo language? You are very silly. I don't want us to detail this Anioma Urhobo thread with the usual Yoruba-Igbo nonsense. Anyway, nobody is trying to attach Igalas to you. Igalas were Yoruba people who were colonized by the Kwararafan empire (Jukuns). Was I among the linguists who classified Igala as a Yoruboid language? |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 9:53pm On May 19, 2020 |
Sunshineg5: Bro I don't claim anyone
The dude I am arguing with is From Jos but a closet Yoruba hater because he lived among igbos. He wants a Middle belt republic and he thinks hating on Yorubas would be the right way to go about middle belt republic.
Needless to say, Ishekiris have never had any say in their future since the time of Western Nigeria in the 60s
Ishekiris didn't want to leave western region to begin with but forced against their own wishes
Ishekiri didn't want to leave mid west but forced against their wishes
Ishekiris never wanted to be Delta state but forced against their wishes
Ishekiri were killed in the 1997 Warri riots over a where the head quaters of Warri south west should be. Their lands taken over by Ijaws.
I believe going forward, should Nigeria break up, the Ishekiris should allowed to decide where they want to belong. You and Tobrasky think I am a Yoruba hater, you guys are not serious. Wait oo, you are saying Itsekiris never wanted to leave the Western region, did those who voted LEAVE not win in Warri divisions? I used to have that poll result somewhere and I think pro Midwest voters won in Warri division. Itsekiris killed Ijaws too in that Warri crisis. Ijaws fight with almost everyone over land. Ikwerres, Ogonis, Binis and even Ilajes. Are Ilajes not in the SW? You don't appear very smart to me. (Sorry). |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 5:04pm On May 19, 2020 |
Sunshineg5: Well! we also have Nupes between Yoruba and Igala People.
I am not denying interactions with Okun Yoruba people and Igala.
But Igala Have Never Traced any orgin elsewhere than Kwararafa.
There is no historical evidence to back your claims. Not all Igalas trace their roots to Kwararafa pls. It is mostly the Attah and royal families who were descendants of Jukuns. Just like Itsekiri royalties claim Benin origin. Most Igalas are of Okpoto origin (aboriginal Yoruba speakers). Many others are of Hausa & Igbo origins. Kwararafa is just associated with prestige and honour in those days like BENIN and that is why so many Igalas claim Kwararafa. But it is not true. Why is the King in Omala LGA called the ONU IFE? |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 4:58pm On May 19, 2020 |
SocialJustice: Lol, so this thread has been moving like this? I even forgot its existence. Urhobo can't be compared in population to any other tribe aside WAZOBIA and Ijaw. So you know the deputy governor of Bayelsa state Sen. Lawrence Ewhrujakpor is an Urhobo man, that's to tell you the population we have there, I think a senatorial District belongs to us.
Urhobo population didn't just explode. It did so long ago as parents used their kids as farm labour. I saw one stupid list about Asaba having airport. If not for Urhobo disunity, the state capital won't even be in Asaba to start with.
People are free to believe what they want to, if that small madam believes Anioma is bigger than Urhobo, good for her but sensible adults know the true story. No pls. The Urhobo deputy governor in Bayelsa is no indication of Urhobo population in Bayelsa pls. It is just pure luck. Urhobos have only 1 town (Ofoni) in the whole Bayelsa state. How on Earth does that translate to 1 senatorial district  . Urhobos do not even dominate Sagbama LGA where Ofoni is found, let alone a senatorial district. Abeg cool down bros. Just like I just told Mystiquefia, if you Urhobos get Isokos, Ofoni and everywhere else and Aniomas get Ndoni, Onitsha city, Ogbaru & Oguta, can you compare with them? I hope you know there are other Ika (Anioma) speaking towns in Edo state like Igbanke, Iru e.t.c? For me, I think Urhobos & Aniomas are a match in most things. Cc Efewestern Efe2real |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 4:50pm On May 19, 2020 |
Sunshineg5: @ Seerade perhaps there maybe some similarities in language
Maybe the way they pronounced theirs was my problem
But we not same with Igalas, they are more closer to igbos than Yorubas
They also share no similar boundaries with any Yoruba tribe
I repeat we are not the same with them. Igalas and Okuns (Kogi west) shared boundary until the Ebiras came from Kwararafa and put them asunder. Look at the map of Kogi state below. There are Igalas in Ajaokuta & Bassa LGAs and there are Yorubas (Oworo) in Lokoja LGA. Tell me how far these places are from each other if not a stonethrow. If not for Kwararafan colonization, Igalas (Okpoto people) would have been part of the Yoruba nation just like Okun. Cc 9jakool forgiveness
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Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 4:44pm On May 19, 2020 |
Sunshineg5: When I was serving I was actually excited to hear from An Igala friend in camp who told me we have some similar cultural similarities regarding language.
In the end, outside 1 to 10 in Igala language which i merely understood, the rest sounded like a strange version of igbo language to me.
And some Igala actually speak igbo as second language.
I have nothing in common with them.  Yes Igalas who were a Yoruba people were heavily influenced by Kwararafan people & Igbos. The influence was so much that it has made them a distinct people today. Ebira migration worsened it. If Ebiras had not come to settle in between Igalas & Okun, the gap would not have been wide, cos Okun and Okpoto people (who became Igalas today) were together in the past. There is a reason why linguists classified Igala language as a Yoruboid language. It is a Yoruba based language. Put your ears down, you will understand it very well. Especially the dialect spoken by Northern Igalas. Most likely that person you met in camp was from Southern Igala. Southern Igala has been heavily influenced by Igbo language and culture. They are the ones who speak Igbo as a 2nd language  Many Northern Igalas do not even regard Southern Igalas as pure Igalas. |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 4:36pm On May 19, 2020 |
@Mystiquefia. There is no need for you to include Urhobos in Bayelsa in your comparison to Anioma. Are u aware that Ndoni people in Rivers state are Ukwuani speaking people? Onitsha, Ogbaru & Oguta people in the SE are also Anioma people? Anioma people do not have a very distinct identity of their own as the larger Igbo tag is swallowing them up.
@NwanyiOgwashi. Warri urban area is overwhelmingly Urhobo. Uvwie & Udu are exclusively Urhobo and without both LGAs, there is no WARRI with the hype everyone knows it with today. Even Warri south LGA which is the so called 'official Warri' is at least 70% or more Urhobo if not for the addition of Itsekiri villages like Ubeji, Ode-Itsekiri, Ifie e.t.c which are not part of Warri urban. Warri urban proper (in Warri south LGA) is majority Urhobo, although Itsekiris won the Urhobos in court over ownership of these lands.
@Mystiquefia. I don't think it is fair for you to rule out Asaba's development to Anioma land and claim Udu/Uvwie to Urhobo land. Udu/Uvwie developed through Warri's urbanization spread. Warri cannot develop into the swamps across the Rivers into the Itsekiri & Ijaw islands and that was why it rapidly developed into the Urhobo mainlands.
Asaba had developed into Okpanam & Igbuzor and will soon reach Ogwashi. |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 4:32pm On May 19, 2020 |
Sunshineg5: Igalas are not Yoruba
We share no cultural similarities with Igala.
You can't hear a word of Igala's language
They don't bear Yoruba names. Speak for yourself. I have heard countless Yorubas who told me they understood like 40-70% of what Igalas were saying. Igala culture was heavily influenced by Jukun & Igbo, but the language is heavily of Yoruba root. |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 4:22pm On May 19, 2020 |
Socialjustice Psalmy2cute Mystiquefia darfay Nwanyiogwashi GreatChizzy
As an outsider (a non-southerner) who was born and bred in Delta state. I think I should be in a better position to give some good conclusive opinions as regards Urhobo and Anioma comparison without any bias.
POPULATION
This is something I have thought about and argued time and over with many Deltans. My conclusion is that Urhobos are more than Aniomas, but the margin is not wide. It is slim. Urhobos had a great population explosion in the last 100 years. Urhobos have clearly been giving birth to more children than Aniomas in the last century.
Judging population of an ethnicity based on number of LGAs or population census is wrong.
Urhobo LGAs are more urbanized and cosmopolitan than Anioma LGAs and as such the figures will always favor Urhobo in this regard. Also, from my observation, there are more Anioma people living outside Anioma land than Urhobos living outside Urhobo land.
Urhobos migrated more than Anioma people in the past. There were so many Urhobo migrants in rural Benin, Lagos (Ajegunle) and even as far as Jos & Liberia, there were large Urhobo communities. However, a large chunk of these migrant Urhobos returned back home within the 80s, 90s and millenial years due to the economic oil boom and great urbanization in the Warri environs.
Aniomas on the other hand have a strong migrant population in the SE. In urban Benin & Lagos, Aniomas most likely outnumber Urhobos. Jos is the only city outside Delta state that Urhobos will likely outnumber Aniomas in Nigeria. Rural Benin still has a strong Urhobo population. Rural Ondo/Ogun still has a strong Urhobo population.
Asaba just started developing recently, so it will take much time for it drag back Anioma people in large numbers.
So, Urhobos should stop bragging with the population of their LGAs. No, cos as it stands, Aniomas travel out of their homeland more than Urhobos right now.
Aniomas too should stop bragging with their 9 LGAs cos it has nothing on Urhobo population. |
Politics › Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 3:50pm On May 19, 2020 |
Sunshineg5: Bruv
Igala don't speak Yoruba
They speak a Language related to Yorubas
Ishekiri are actually Yorubas who didn't develop the modern Yoruba culture promoted by Oduduwa. Their remote location made them borrow culture like those of Uhrobos and Ijaws.
The Ishekiris bear Yoruba names unlike Igala. E.g. Sola, Wumi, Ayo, Ire
Even Olu is a Yoruba world for a leader which Yorubas also use in Ibadan to refer to their king Olu ibadan (Even though the King of Ishekiri just like king in Lagos has a Bini origin). No Yoruba town calls their king Atta.
Ishekiri practice similar traditional religion as Yorubas called Ebura isese, Igala don't
Ishekiri can be whoever they want to be, but unlike before, let them make the choice this time. Lol..... Igala people are originally a people of Yoruba stock just like Itsekiris. Igalas were colonized by Jukun people (Kwararafan empire), just the same way Itsekiris were colonized by Benins. Igalas became farther from Yoruba unlike Itsekiri simply because the Ebiras who came from Kwararafa settled in between Igalas & Okuns and cut off Igalas from their Yoruba speaking brothers (Okuns). Outside Ijebus & Ondo people, the average Yoruba person can understand Igala language better than Itsekiri language. Kwararafan influence on Igalas was just too strong. Much stronger than the Benin influence on Itsekiris. Mind you, Attah is a borrowed Kwararafan word for kingship in Igala. Igalas call their Kings ONU just like Yoruba OLU. That is why you have the ONU ANKPA and ONU ANYIGBA and ONU of all the other Igala towns and not ATTAH. You Yorubas lost Itsekiris to the Benin, lost Igalas to the Kwararafans and partially lost Ilorin to the Fulanis. |
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Sunshineg5: Urhobo were largely seen as part of bini groups in the old western and mid western region.
Everyone just called them Bendel No, it wasn't just about that. Aniomas were more influential in Midwest region. In Bendel state, Binis were more influential closely followed by Urhobos. |