₦airaland Forum

forgiveness:
I don't know about the literacy rate in the North and I didn't debate that with you.

But you told me Hausa and Fulani are more literate because they know how to read Qur'an. ;Dllll

Don't you think based on this they are more literate than the whole Plateau?

Hausas were more literate in pre-colonial Nigeria cos then we did not have English language as our official language and the medium of instruction.
Besides, there is a big difference between the Koran in Arabic and Hausa language written in Arabic texts (called Ajami).

Ajami is written in Arabic texts. An Arab man can read it, but will not understand it because it was Hausa language written in Arabic text.
Same way a Briton can read Hausa written in Latin script but they will not understand it.

So, pls educate yourself.
Hausa fulanis learnt to read Ajami in large numbers and not Arabic language or Koran.

Today, Ajami is useless and the Hausas themselves now write Hausa with Latin alphabets and not Arabic alphabets.
So, Ajami has outlived it's usefulness.

Covidodo:
Death , sorrows , tears and blood are the trademarks of Jos.

Jos is the poster child of a failed African city .

The mumu is beating his chest here while the Fula are wrecking havoc on the ground

@ Legendhero.

Ooh, less I forget, one of the richest Indigenous companies in West Africa (Nasco) still has their headquarters in Jos. Why haven't they relocated all these decades?
No Indigenous company in Oyo, Osun, Kwara, Ondo & Ekiti is as worth as Nasco, yet why is Nasco not relocating to your area?

Pls someone should tell me something I am missing.


The only National Vertinary research institute in Nigeria is in Jos and this encouraged the establishment of the INTEGRATED DAIRIES LTD (one of the leading indigenous companies in Nigeria taking national Dairy production to the next level).

https://integrateddairies.alanandgrant.com/

You cannot compare this with all those Hollandia and house of Chi products in Ogun that import all their dairy products directly from Holland.

In the gym I attend, there are 6 white people & Indians. Whites, Indians, Chinese & Arabs are all over Jos.
Infact, Apart from Lagos, Abuja and perhaps PH, I don't think any Nigerian city/ state has much foreigners like Jos!

How can foreigners be living in a killing/battleground?
How many foreigners live in Osun, Oyo, Ekiti or Ondo?

Pls, can someone give me an answer?

Jos is already naturally blessed! No one can curse the city.

LegendHero:
All these are just adding to the facts that you are all
Barbarian around that axis.

It’s only death death death death death death.

Type Jos. The only thing you hear is death. Over 70k of your people have been killed and that shit is still continuing daily as we speak.

Not only Jos, type Benue, type Southern Kaduna. It’s only death that is putting them on the map.

Yet, you will bring your mouth here on Nairaland and start hating on the Yorubas who don’t have a hand in your misfortune.

For every one Fulani you guys kill, the internet space is filled with hundreds of counter-death from fulanis. They have turned that axis to a killing field.

Covidodo:
Death , sorrows , tears and blood are the trademarks of Jos.

Jos is the poster child of a failed African city .

The mumu is beating his chest here while the Fula are wrecking havoc on the ground

Isn't it such an Irony that thousands of Yorubas still live, fluorish and progress in Jos & Kaduna in spite of the fact that these places are filled with barbarians, battle & killing fields?

The biggest private hospital in Jos is owned by a Yoruba man.
The gym I attend here is owned by a Yoruba woman (although she is now one of us by marriage)
The sports center where I learn and play lawn tennis here is owned by a Yoruba man.

https://www.independent.ng/jos-gets-new-yoruba-leader/

Yorubas are coronating new Obas, not even only in Jos, but also in Shendam

Kai, if the world were to be watching our comments, who would they judge as the fools?

Common sense is not really common indeed.

Covidodo:
I don't know about the thousand of Yorubas living in that Aleppo-like Plateau. You are a shameless pathological liar . The thousands are figment of your imaginations .

https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2012/11/19/the-ogbomoso-people-in-jos/amp/

https://www.independent.ng/jos-gets-new-yoruba-leader/

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2018/10/08/yoruba-community-laments-loss-of-members-property-to-jos-violence/amp/

Read these links and cover your head in shame!

People like you have never left Iwo since you were born.

Let's do it this way . Drop the names of popular Yoruba people who are not federal government workers living in that war torn Jos ?
Northern Christians like MI, Ice Prince , 2Baba are some of the prominent Northern minorities living in Yoruba land . And there are hundreds like them .

Why will popular Yorubas live in Jos when it is not the economic, financial or entertainment capital of Nigeria?
However, many popular Yorubas call my homeland home cos they grew up there, hence they are products of my homeland and I can give you the list.

Why would any sane person want to live in one of the worst open refugee camps known to mankind ?? The same plateau where bearing the wrong last name can make you lose your head in the twinkle of an eye . A state where Muslims and Christians dare not move freely in some parts of the town lest you sign your own death warrant .

https://dailypost-ng.cdn.ampproject.org/ii/w470/s/dailypost.ng/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/unnamed-1-1.jpg

Can u see this picture? An array of Yoruba traditional leaders in Jos

Can u find such array of Plateau or Southern Kaduna leaders in Lagos? Let your abandoned war towns.

Are the thousands, if not millions of Ebiras( both Muslims and christians) , Igala ( we often call them Gara), Igede , Idoma and Tivs living in the south west not Northern minorities? Many of them are into farming in numerous South western villages . You are a clueless joker .
This particular thread has exposed you for the shallow, empty and flip flopping charlatan that you are .

Yes, you see Igalas, Ebiras, Idomas, Tivs & Igedes? (Kogi & Benue people)?
They are a bone in our throat that we ourselves cannot swallow or vomit out.
We from Plateau, Southern Kaduna, Nasarawa, Taraba e.t.c are not the same with them and we do not have the same mentality or cultures with them.
They are more like Southerners and much of their histories are tied to southern Nigeria, and to be frank, they were supposed to be classified as Southerners if not for the fraudulent nature of the British.

Tivs are Bantu immigrants from Congo who came to settle on Kwararafan lands and that is why they and the Jukuns, Idomas and other Kwararafan neighbors fight till date.
Igalas are Yoruba speaking people who we (Kwararafa colonized).

If not that these Benue & Kogi tribes are the ones in between we and the Southerners, I don't think we would have wanted anything to do with them.
Ebiras & Nupes for example have been infected with the virus of Islamic extremism, so either you Yorubas or Hausa fulanis take them. God forbid for the rest of us to have anything to do with them. Ebiras even disgust me more than Yorubas disgust me.
And thank God that Ebiras & Nupes are the highest middlebelt settlers in Yorubaland. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

These Benue/Kogi people even inflitrate our lands with immigration same way you Southerners do. Igalas & Idomas don't stay in their homeland! Majority of them are in Jos, Kaduna & Abuja. Thank God Ebiras & Nupes identity more with Hausa fulanis in the north than my people due to their Islamic bond.

Abuja is even something else. Igalas/Idomas drag numbers or even outnumber we northern christians in many parts of Abuja.

Abeg, take note! I personally do not consider Benue & Kogi people to be my people! However, We are friends, neighbors and distant cousins who share one region same way you Yorubas & Edos share one region together.
Thank you.

So, I will prefer if you are dealing with me, talk about Plateau, Southern Kaduna, Nasarawa, Adamawa e.t.c Christian tribes.
These are the people I represent and not Igala, Idomas, Tivs or Godforbid Ebiras.

So your mention of MI & Iceprince are the ones I can defend. And those handful are there cos the entertainment industry of Nigeria is based in Lagos (developed by the FG). How many of such people will live in Ibadan, Iwo or Ilesha?

Your derelict state is war torn and has similar socioeconomic indices as Bornu and Yobe .
Those are the states you should measure dick with .
It is blasphemy to mention any south western state in the same sentence with whatever hell hole you crawled out from .

I prefer to be a free man in war than to be a happy slave. Plateau can have crisis, but as long as there is no Emir in Jos, I am okay, unlike Ilorin.

The Benue and Kogi minority groups are even lucky and way better than you losers from Plateau. At this rate , in another 50years , the Fouta jallon rogues would have removed all of you while turning the whole place into a grazing land .

Can you kindly mention one ethnic group in my region that Fulanis have successfully evicted from their homeland? I am waiting. Mention it or forever remain an idiiot.

It's only April and thousands have already died in the hands of your Hausa/Fulani husband already . They've turned you unfortunate lot into IDP in your state .

Imagine a dolt with a single digit IQ who is probably living in one of the numerous IDP camps scattered all over Plateau trying to undermine Yoruba land .

There are currently no IDP camps in Plateau state FYI, even fleeing people from Borno/Yobe IDPs have been closed.
They were all closed in January and the people reintegrated.
My group wanted to make donations to any IDP camp as at February and we could find none all over Plateau, Southern Kaduna or Adamawa.

You are screaming about 'Change' . What the fvck is my business with APC ??
Are Plateau( inspite of the killings) and Kaduna not currently being ruled by the APC ? You see how daft you sound .
Were you and your people sleeping when the whole of the North bar Taraba and Nassarawa caught the change fever and gave the APC the bulk of your votes against a Christian minority from the ND ??
Plateau state currently has an APC governor . Lol
How can a people collectively suffer from Stockholm syndrome

APC won Plateau state in the governorship, but did they win in the Presidency? Hell no!
APC wins in Kaduna cos of the Hausa fulanis but they never win in Southern Kaduna, do they?

The last governor (Jang) who controlled the PDP wanted to promote his ethnic groups superiority over other Plateau tribes, and the rest of us united to destroy that nonsense, cos tribal superiority is not part of our culture! And Nigeria being a 2-party system, APC was the only other good option we had.

However, to tell u that unlike u Yorubas, we know our left from our right, Buhari never wins Plateau in the Presidential elections.

While the Hausa/Fulani land is filled with Islamists , your land on the other hand is filled with Christian fundamentalists . Six and half a dozen . What a shame !!

Then what are Yorubas still doing in our land crowning new Oba Yoruba of Jos & Kaduna every time?

https://www.independent.ng/jos-gets-new-yoruba-leader/

If not for Igbo controlled Sabongari, Yorubas would have been eradicated and non-existent as a community in Kano state.

Pack all the Yorubas out of the north and we will take u seriously.

Somalia and Afghanistan would definitely be a child's play when poo hits the fan completely in that region . (Isn't that even happening already ??)

I have bad news for you. Ilorin would also be involved when the shit hits the Fan.
By the time my people in unity with the Igbos will finish Hausa fulanis from my area, they will channel all the anger into Ilorin, then we will see who will laugh harder. Just pray that Nupes, Baribas & Ebiras will not join Hausa fulanis, cos they are your only lifeline. If not, u will loose Ilorin in broad daylight and nothing will happen.

After all, a fulani leader (Junaid Mohammed) made a public statement that Ilorin & even Offa will go with them if Nigeria divides

https://www.nairaland.com/2804069/north-keep-ilorin-offa-nigeria

I shouldn't even be exchanging words with a lowly and inconsequential minority from the poorest and most hopeless zone in Nigeria but I need to set the records straight .

We are inconsequential yet we own the nation's capital city . and there are more Yorubas living in our lands than vice versa.

Your state and zone is landlocked and brings nothing to the table. Zero human capital also !!

70% of all the food in Nigeria comes from the Middlebelt and Northern minorities.
Because of us, even paupers in Yorubaland can afford to eat Salad. Try importing Cabbages, Carrots, Lettuces from Obodo Oyibo and see if paupers like you would ever eat salad till you die.
Go to ShopRite and see the the exorbitant prices of the imported Strawberry, Irish potatoes and Salad veggies. How many ngbaati ngbaati folks can afford that?

We are the host to the nation's capital.
We lost more people than any other region in Nigeria in the civil war, all to keep Nigeria one.
Same Nigeria u clowns are claiming to be influential in.

The Abuja you are trying to claim was made possible by the magnanimity of the same Hausa/Fulani establishment you come here to malign . One of the reasons I don't take you seriously here .

If my people had not fought the civil war to keep Nigeria one, would any idiot have been talking about a capital in Abuja?

Ibrahim Babangida & Mohammed Murtala are not even Hausa fulanis.
Babangida claims Gbagyiland and not Hausaland. His mother and grandmothers are Gbagyi women, though we are not sure of his paternity.
Murtala on the other hand, some say he has a Berom (Plateau) father & Etsako mother or vice versa. He was never tied to Hausa fulani origin, only that he lived in Kano.

So, can u tell me how Abuja came to be due to Hausa fulani magnanimity? Mugu.

It's high time you got real . You speak Hausa and dress like them but you think any southern group would want to be in the same country with an extremist group who brings nothing to the table .
Your destiny is tied to the Hausa/Fulani and that is the fact .

Our destiny is tied to the Hausa fulani, yet we have evicted them from dozens of our towns.
Are u not worse than a clown?
And what the hell do u mean we dress like Hausa fulanis? Is it because of Babanriga? One, not all my people use Babanriga, but Yorubas use it too.
Babanriga is not a native Hausa fulani dress. They borrowed it from the Saharan tribes.

I don't know if you are Hausa, Fulani or even Chinese . Since you've refused to name your tribe but claim some phantom Middle belt , it isn't out of place to lump you with them .

Your headache.

I repeat , the 1st and 4th largest most notorious and deadliest terrorist groups are domiciled in your region (not to mention other numerous ethnic militias)and that is a fact making your zone one of the un safest places on earth .

Fulani herdsmen are everywhere in Nigeria, while BH are based (operate) from Kanuri parts of Borno. How is that my region?

This year alone, the number of people that have lost their lives to the violence in Plateau has outweighed the number of deaths to some phantom ritual killings in the SW in the last 10 years .

See this foool. Do u have the numbers of people who are butchered all over the forests of Yorubaland day in day out? The ones used for Yahoo plus e.t.c?

Yorubaland is no one's mate in Nigeria and indeed in Africa .

Take away Lagos from Yorubaland and it will be comparable to Niger republic.

I repeat , the worst of my people are miles ahead and still tower above the best of you inconsequential lots.
My people are not your mates and will never be your mates. You hopeless barbarian !!

Stories that touch.
How many of our women do you see traveling hundreds of miles in order to hawk Agbo-jedijedi by day and #200 'money for hand back for ground' at night?

My folks are all over the world making Nigeria and indeed mother Africa proud from Medicine to Music to Sports to Literature .

Left to your barbarian hordes from whatever hopeless tribe you come from in the plateau, Nigeria would have been another Afghanistan or Somalia .

Yes your folks are making us proud, I won't deny, but is that not the same way you guys are embarrassing us all over the world?

How many of you are awaiting beheading in your holy Islamic city of Mecca for drug smuggling?
Or should we talk about the fact that one Yoruba scammer is caught and incarcerated abroad Everytime we click on the news?

Or is it the Yoruba muslim terrorist Adebolajo who started killing people on the streets of London we should talk about?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-26357007

For every good representation you give Nigeria, you give 10 bad representations.... So, can u kindly tell me what use your good rep is, when it comes with a geometrically higher opposite?

My own people could bring only 1 good representative outside Nigeria and rest assured no evil rep is coming out to counter it.

And you loser shouldn't worry about Amotekun , you should worry about the fate of your people who are victims of systematic genocide and ethnic cleansing in the hands of the barbarians from Fouta Jalon. Extinction sure stares you in the face at this rate

Please hate Yorubas Abeg . But do it with your chest . Don't hide to throw your subs .
We shall be here for you , that I promise

From the US doctor that performed a fetal surgery to Wizkid to Anthony Joshua/Adesanya to Evaristo Mobolaji Bernardine ( the winner of 2019 Booker prize) . We keep representing !!!

Law backed Amotekun is for only cowards who cannot face and dear the military. My own people will not need that shiit in the next few years when we will rain hell on Hausa fulanis in our midst.
We did not need Amotekun to eradicate Hausa fulanis & Muslims from dozens of towns & LGAs from Plateau, FCT, Southern Kaduna, Taraba, Adamawa & Bauchi south.

So, can u tell me why we should ever need them?
People who have the teeth to bite do not need to bark endlessly first.

I hope people like Femi Fani Kayode and other useful idiots would see this so they can know the kinda hopeless ingrates they speak for .

Since you now 'audio' deal with the Fulani , woe betide anyone who cries for you lot whenever the statistics of the suyanized indigenous Plateau people are rolled out

Wtf are you ?

Who you ...who born you ?? Where do you come from ?? ( Apologies to Prophet Odumeje)

Can you tell me who pity and sympathy has ever helped in this world?
Right from 1987 when there was no even social media or anything, my people have been engaging Hausa fulanis in conflicts and winning.
Was it your pity that helped Kataf people eradicate Hausa fulanis from Zangon Kataf in 1992?

Pity and Sympathy only makes people weaker! Action is what is needed.
I was told how an Igbo man in Jos bought and supplied guns for my people in the 2010 Jos crisis.
Those are the only things that can help us!
Igbos have never lost any land they dominate in the North to Hausa fulani attackers, and because of Igbos, my people can also live in those places confidently. That is what we are talking about.

See someone like Nnamdi Kanu, if my people go and meet him and pledge support/partnership to his cause, he will be ready to give us a large amount of cash to buy weapons and defend our people!
Apart from someone like Oyedepo, how many Yorubas can do such?
And besides, Oyedepo is also a product of our land since he spent a large chunk of his upbringing in Kaduna & Jos.

Fani Kayode is just out for the media and benefits he gets. However we still appreciate his likes and that is why people like them will always have a special place in our hearts and not filthy Yoruba muslim roaches like you who claim sympathy for my people on Ibadan expressway media today and tomorrow you paint a terrorist like Buhari as a messiah in that same media of yours.

If na Igbo man dey talk about sympathy now, cold go dey catch me small small, not a powerless cvnt like you who cannot save or have enough sympathy for Ilorin, let alone others.

Why did u people not include Kwara in your Amotekun? Sebi it is Yoruba dominated na. Loooooooosers!

Covidodo:
I thought anencephaly wasn't compatible with life . How tf did you make it ??

Says a schizophrenic patient.

First of all, what godforsaken tribe do you belong to ? I don't want to lump you all together . MiddleBelt isn't a tribe ffs . Y'all don't offend me . Be brave enough to state your useless tribe so I can direct my missiles appropriately .
I'm a very proud Yoruba of the Egba stock . Who tf are you ??

Hahaha, you see, we are not like you guys who are so tribal and deal on tribe daily. I am a Kwararafan descendant of Plateau stock. Isn't that enough identity for you?
Proud Yoruba? An identity given to Oyo people by Hausas . Tell me something else pls.

How can we ever be an inconsequential minority when we speak one language and originate from the same source with same religion and same gods ?? Are you being deliberately dumb now ??

Majority of middlebelters are descendants of the Kwararafan kingdom & Nok. So your source ish is baseless. Besides, Ijebu people (2nd largest clan in Yoruba land said they came from Sudan)

https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2010/06/25/ijebus-are-from-sudan-awujale-insists/amp/

And the Aworis said they are from Benin

https://dailypost.ng/2017/05/03/lagos-not-belong-yorubas-oba-akiolu/amp/.

You can only feed your shameless lies to the ignorant public!
Yoruba caricature identity was only answered by the Oyo people as at the time British came. The Egbas, Aworis, Ijebus, Igboonas, Okuns e.t.c never ever identified themselves as Yorubas in the past!

And thank God for the British who came to save your dying asses! If not, your people would have been decimated.

Fulanis had already taken over Kwara and not up till few decades ago, all your Igbomina & Ibolo Kings from Jebba down to Offa, Omu-aran & Asa were all coronated with bedsheets and given staff of office right from the Emir of Ilorin's palace.

Okun people on the other hand were real time biitches of the Nupes .... Nupes raided them whenever they felt like it and heavily depopulated and destroyed their lands. That is the reason why the British classified Okuns under the Northern protectorate, cos they were simply considered a conquered territory of the Nupe Emirates (Caliphate).
Till date, your people (Oworo under Okun) have the largest landarea in Lokoja LGA (Felele), yet there is a Hausa-Nupe Maigari of Lokoja ruling the town.
Shame nor dey catch una?

While Fulanis & Nupes were colonizing different parts of Yoruba land, Benins were colonizing Lagos and many parts of Ondo land.

You Yorubas shamelessly lost Igalas to us, same way you lost Itsekiris to the Benins.

Igalas speak a Yoroboid language. Inspite of the heavy Kwararafan corruption, the average Yoruba will understand Igala when it is spoken.
If not for my Kwararafan ancestors who came to colonize the Yoruba speaking Okpoto aboriginals of Igalaland and gave them the current Igala identity they take pride in, Igalas would have been classified by the British under the Yoruba nation.

All the lands Ebiras are staying in Kogi today was Yoruba speaking territory, cos not until the fall of Kwararafan empire, the Yoruba speaking Okpoto & Okun people were neighbors.
That is simply to tell you that the whole of present day Kogi was supposed to be Yoruba territory . But my Kwararafan ancestors took it from you people. Jukun Kings colonized the Yoruba speaking Okpotos, Ebira immigrants displaced the Okuns further Westwards, while Nupes were enslaving Okuns from the North

And today, in a once fluorishing Yoruba speaking territory (Kogi), Kwararafan descendants are now in charge


Itsekiris were a coastal Ijebu speaking people, but a group of fleeing Benin prince & royalties colonized all them into a kingdom subject to the Benin empire. Today, all Itsekiris pay homage to Benin and not Ife!

Can't you see that you come from a tribe who was saved by the British! Just go and thank your stars!
The foolish Yoruba leaders of Oyo empire, instead of them to go after bringing the Eastern Yoruba speaking realm like the Ijebus, Okuns & Okpotos (now Igalas) under their reign, they went after Non-Yoruba speaking Dahomey people.
See how same Dahomey sent menstruating and breastfeeding women warriors to defeat them!

The only fvcking ethnic group who had the liver to conquer and colonize a part of Kwararafan descendants were the Fulanis.

But you Yorubas on the other hand were gangbanged from time immemorial by Benins, Fulanis, Nupes & Kwararafans .
Who knows, Dahomians would have also joined the orgy if not for the intervention of Western colonialists...

Today you people beat your empty stinky chests claiming a large Yoruba nation which could only have been possible by the British.

With Kwara gone to the Fulanis, Lagos, Ondo & Itsekiris gone to the Benins and Kogi gone to the Kwararafans, tell me how only Oyo, Ogun & Osun would have been anything to reckon with as a large nation.

Read my lips, you people were saved by the Bell. Lucky bastards.


An idiiot like you is meeting me for the first time, that is why you don't know who I am!
Ask the likes of Legendhero who have known me for a long time, I am called NOWENUSE, the one-man army.
If you pass me with a friendly wave, I give you warmth and friendliness, but if you step on my tail, I give u destruction.

See, just as I told Legendhero, I do not like to play dirty, go and ask the likes of Deadlytruth who were making noise about his people in Akoko-Edo never being under Ebiras, when I gave him the embarrassment of his life, he deactivated his account and retired from Nairaland.

On another thread, I told some Yorubas that during the colonial era, Hausa language was the medium of senior education in Ilorin and that there was almost an equal number of Non-Yorubas (Hausa, fulanis, Nupes, Malians) in Ilorin than Yorubas and they started ranting nonsense as usual like u are doing here, when I brought out the colonial documents of Ilorin, they all fled in shame!

I dare you to provoke me further, I will not only post documents of how different ethnic nations ruled and were decimating Yoruba speakers, I will open an entirely new thread on that, and I will tag all the Igbo warriors on nairaland to come and feast on it.

See this idiiot! Even Ekiti people were devastated by Nupe-Fulani raids and hence they were even classified as Northern Nigerians under Nupe influence and u are here talking nonsense?


gomojam, redcrafton, diiet

Myobjective, Forgiveness & Legendhero,

I still have some respects for the 3 of you.
You guys should call Covidodo to order.

I have nothing to gain bringing up embarrassing colonial documents to ridicule Yorubas here, especially one by Fulani-Nupe conquests & raids, cos while your brother is being foolish, the Fulanis who opened this thread are happy that we are fighting ourselves.

You people should warn him let us not degenerate this thread any further and let him not provoke me to open an entirely new thread against Yorubas.

He was the first to start insulting me and my people. Ontop of that I apologized and agreed to turn a new leaf when another Yoruba person called me out, but he wants to take me down to the worst!

Thank you.

LegendHero:
No need for all these stories. This is all audio coz it has been established that most of your stats are always wrong.

You are a coward! The fulanis have been killing your people and they are on the verge of extinction.

Long stories won’t help you. We don’t need stories.

Jos is like a barbarian city that have never known peace ever since its inception. Type Jos online and all you see is death death death.

My last warning for you. Keep posting this rubbish and you will hate the day u came across my path.

I hated to descend into this level of lowness, but this is just a warning to you that u don't have the monopoly of Stupidity.

LegendHero:
God forgive me for what I’m doing.

Nowenuse again you are a coward.

You should organize your people and have the balls to declare your own Amotekun to fight back these guys.

Your people are on the verge of extinction. You are only powerful online. The Fulanis not only deal with you physically but they dealed with your psyche too.

Are you seeing the date of the attachments? They’ve been dealing with you as way back as 2001.

And can u also explain these? Goat!

LegendHero:
You are here trying to debate the carnage going on in the North as against the SW. Are you sure you are okay?

There is no week that passes that we won’t hear of killings in the North. If it’s not in Benue today, it will be in Plateau tomorrow. If not in pleateau, it will be in southern Kaduna.

If we are to be counting by number of death, the middle belt would have been termed the axis of sorrow.

The Fulanis keep killing your people daily and yet you are always online claiming you’re a leader of your people and claiming braveness while they contribute to kill and maim your people.

Over 70,000 of your people have been wasted since 2011 and many more still being killed with your houses getting burnt dealing while your people live in fear daily waiting for their next death.

Nowenuse just yesterday on Nairaland, the Fulanis still massacred you’re people in Plateau while you’re here pushing a braveness narrative for your coward tribe.

The Yorubas are not the ones being killed in their thousands, it is your people that are being massacred like fowls and yet you fail them by being on nairaland on an audio bravery.

Initially I don’t want to join in the culture of mocking you guys, but we are going to start now and na you go rest.

Ok, and what the media will not tell you is that Fulani herdsmen have been eradicated from many of these communities and LGAs.

I know my people have a problem and we are seriously working on that problem, only that it will take some time for it to be solved.
That problem is the only reason fulani herdsmen still succeed.

And that problem is Tribal divisions.
Fulanis started out attacking the Berom people, the Beroms have now evicted fulanis from their lands and now the fulanis are facing the minority tribes in Bassa & Bokkos LGAs and they are attacking these ones from Nasarawa state. Tomorrow now after these ones are done with them, they will now attack those ones whose communities they attacked these ones from... And these were the same tribes the fulanis called their 'friends' when attacking the Berom people.

That is why only a unity of all these tribes to say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH will put a final end to all these micro killings.

Fulanis can no longer attack Agatu or most Tiv communities cos these ones have developed resistance for them.

Sayawa people who eradicated Hausa fulanis from 2 entire LGAs in Bauchi state were not always as ruthless as that.
In the late 80s, Fulanis sacked Sayawa land and displaced half of their population into my village in neighbouring Plateau state.
Till now, 36 years after, some Sayawas have not returned to Bauchi from my hometown, but what happened in 2011?
They evicted more than 50,000 Hausa fulanis from Tafawa Balewa & Bogoro towns and till date, hardly does any fulani man born of a woman attack Sayawa people.

So that is the point. My people are not like Yorubas that know they have a problem and will deny it!

Many Fulani & Ijaw killings have taken place in the SW, but I don't think I will descend to the level of splattering such pictures everywhere.

Or should I now like Igbos do start splattering everywhere with pictures of Yoruba skull miners and human part sellers? No I wouldn't. I don't roll that way. Although if u continue with such pictures, I may be forced and we will destroy this thread.



Now, back to answer you.

Do you know that I am actually not so sad over the killings happening to my people? Yes! Cos without these killings, my people would never have known the true nature of the snakes and demons (Hausa fulanis) we once called brothers & sisters.
Christianity came in and turned my people to weak foools who abandoned their ancestral ways. Same ancestral ways that helped us keep these jihadists in check for over 200 years.

And now that they started attacking us, the rage is coming back. Some tribes have caught theirs while others are yet to catch theirs.
So, let the killings continue till it finally ends when everyone has learnt their lessons and known who the true enemy and friend is.

You cannot unite dozens of minority tribes who are not fueled by the same rage.

Adara people were being attacked by Fulanis last year in Southern Kaduna, but go to Kachia & Kajuru now and see the rage! Many Hausa fulanis in the towns have relocated.

20-30 years ago when Kataf & Bajju people were fighting their wars with Hausa fulanis and warning Adara & Gbagyi people against Hausa fulanis, they refused to listen.
They told Kataf people that it is not true, that they and Hausa fulanis will remain friends & neighbors .
It was so bad that a very stupid Gbagyi leader stood up in the National assembly and said to hell with Kataf and other Southern Kaduna tribes, that his own Gbagyi people are at peace with Hausa fulanis and they do not support the creation of Gurara state for Southern Kaduna people.
The next year after that comment, Sharia crisis came to Kaduna and Gbagyi people being the indigenes of Kaduna city lost more people and lands to Hausas than other Southern Kaduna tribes . Today, when Southern Kaduna unity is discussed, Gbagyis are the first in line for that meeting

Pls leave my people alone. Hausa fulani aggression is actually helping us to unite better.

The unity of 200 ethnic groups which the same Hausa fulanis in connivance with the British thwarted, same Fulanis will unite these people back together with the aggression and when they do, it will be game over.

Was French Napoleon not the one who united the ever warring Germanic kingdoms together due to his aggression?
If not for Napoleon's aggression to conquer Europe for the French people, Germanic kingdoms wouldn't have united themselves as the powerful Germany we know today!
Same Germany conquered and devastated France less than 100 years later during the 2nd world war.

Fulanis are actually uniting my people and they don't know it. Worse thing for them, they are also pushing a unity between my people and the Igbos! And when that happens, it will be suicide for them.

Imagine me meeting with the youth leaders of the largest and deadliest ethnic groups in our region some months ago and all of them agreed that we Northern christians must unite with ourselves and unite with the Igbos too!

30 years ago, can you mention such a thing about unity with the Igbos to an average Northern Christian? Hell NO!

So, pls bro, don't do the crying for my people. I know my people more than you know them and I am not crying over them.

And mind you, if we take the list of Hausa fulanis & muslims that my people have killed since 1999 till now, Oga e no go pass that 70k so?
Do u know how many Hausa fulani towns & settlements have been razed to the ground? Or u want me to give you figures & pages too?

If not that my people were not killing women & children in the past, only Yelwa-Shendam town that was burnt to the ground, do u know how many Muslim casualties would have come out?

Abeg, these are not the things we should be boasting about.

Tobrasky:
There's a time to be civil, and there's a time to be mad... so far the level of interaction on here has been nothing short of sensible and rational heads on one hand vs Ojuelegba Ill-bred touts on the other. Ok now, let's all fucck up these thread then, since we all want to be mad at the same time.

Thank you very much.

You will not believe that I joined this thread very calmly. The Hausa fulani guy was the only one I insulted immediately I joined this thread cos he was misrepresenting my people.

Infact my first comment on this thread was in support of Yoruba people! And look at it below!

Nowenuse:
I so much agree with you. Yorubas dominate the handskill and handworks in Nigeria.

Iamgrey5 was arguing with an Igbo man claiming that his people dominate handskills in Nigeria and I fully supported him!

Some Igbos and Hausa fulanis were also claiming that Yorubas were non-existent in the North and I immediately countered that with these comments and trust the Yorubas, they all liked these comments of mine

Nowenuse:
Yorubas are more than Igbos in Niger state.
Kaduna & Katsina are like 50-50. No, Yorubas should be more in Kaduna city, but am not sure of Zaria.
Jos used to have more Yorubas, but many of them relocated after the crisis.

Kano should clearly have more Igbos.
NE has more Igbos.
Nasarawa/Abuja has more Igbos.

I think Yorubas are more in Kebbi.

Nowenuse:
This is a very big lie.
Yorubas are heavily present in Kaduna, Zaria, Jos & Zaria.
I can't speak for Kano cos I've not stayed there.

My only crime against Yorubas started because I challenged their narrative that Yorubas outnumbered non-Yorubas in SW private Universities.
A Yoruba guy brought a Covenant admission list, we counted, and Non-Yorubas outnumbered Yorubas 60-40. Since then, that was how they all started attacking and insulting me.

Can Yorubas here tell me why telling you guys the truth make you bitter and hateful ??

Legendhero, Forgiveness, Myobjective

LegendHero:
@Nowenuse

So far, I can deduce that your own definition of bravery is when a tribe can kill. To you, bravery have to be proven by shedding blood like savages.

You have been using crisis in the North as the measure of bravery from the beginning of this thread. To you any tribe that can slay defensive people whether in their sleep or daylight like the Jukum cannibals and Fulani herdsmen are brave. Well we always see life in our own image, that part of the North have always been an axis of evil where countless gruesome killings is their heritage.

You are not serious. Go and read my previous post well and remove those 'tribalistic everyone else in anti-yoruba' lenses from your eyes.

Did I not say that the Igbo approach of things could be interpreted as bravery even when it might not be the case?


Besides, how do u explain the 2 Shagamu conflicts between Yorubas & Hausa fulanis, the Mile 2 conflict, the Ile Ife conflict, or the Ilaje-Ijaw conflict or the OPC-Ijaw conflict in Ajegunle area e.t.c

I need more lights to be shed on.
Since 1999 till now, Yorubas have had about 10 different bloody conflicts with Hausa fulanis & Ijaws. And countless showdown with Fulani herdsmen.

We can also count how many conflicts middlebelt indigenes have had with Hausa fulanis with our fingers.

So, can you kindly tell me what is the difference between you and my people in this regard?

Can you also be sincere and give an estimate of all the people who have been victims of the Human parts stock exchange going on in Yorubaland since 1999?

Covidodo:
This has to be the funniest thing I've come across since I joined nairaland .

Guy , you have delusional disorder and should be placed on anti psychotics.

You are a butterfly feeling like a bird . FYI , no one cares what your tribe is in the Northwest/North East . As far I'm concerned , y'all are bloodthirsty and backward savages who don't deserve to be among sane people in the 21st century .

Same way you people tell Igbos to relocate to the SE to prove their words is the same way I have been telling the likes of Legendhero and I will tell you, to evacuate the hundreds of thousands of Yorubas living in Kaduna & Jos before we can take you any seriously.

You insult us on one hand that we are backward savages and on the other hand you have hundreds of thousands of your people in our homeland who have refused to leave in spite of everything that has been happening... Who is fooling who? How many Northern christians live in Yoruba land?...

Imagine a lowly minority with inconsequential history claiming anti Yoruba . Anti Yoruba kee you there !!!

See this goat. Yoruba was a caricature name given to Oyo people by the Hausas.
If not for the British who came and unified you people as one majority ethnic group, you would have been no different from other minorities in Nigeria today. So, thank the British for that and shut the hell up!

You are nothing but another worthless religious bigot . And you and your Hausa/Fulani friends perfectly fit each other .

Tell that to your Emir in Ilorin who you worship and bow to, or the Fulani Sultan who cites the moon for you before you can do Sallah.

The worst of Yorubas are heads and shoulders above whatever inconsequential tribe you come from .
Nairaland sef !!..

Same Yorubas whose cities and towns look like abandoned war towns, apart from FG developed Lagos? Or is there another Yoruba in China I don't know?

If not for the bastard Lord Luggard !!!.
Countries are investing massively in space technology , driverless cars and also preparing for the so called 'internet of things' but the loafers I share country with are still happy talking about bloodletting .

And don't forget that your people were the ones chanting CHANGE when they elected someone who came from the most illiterate, retrogressive and terrorism inclined ethnic group in Africa as the President.

The loser is talking about omoonile , owomida
Is the south west the home to the 1st and 4th deadliest terrorist groups in the world ?? Nigeria has almost become a pariah state due to your Northern region !!!

Thank God I am not a Hausa fulani or Kanuri or a core-northerner, they are the ones with Terrorists and the last time I checked, these same people are newly wedded husbands to your people. Where were u when your Lord Tinubu bowed before their Lord and pledged his allegiance and that of his entire ethnic group?
Shameless bastards!

Ooh ooh, and besides Omoniles & Owomidas, why don't you tell us about skull mining or the human abattoirs that exist in your forests where buying & selling of human parts take place?
Yoruba skull mining stock exchange

My forebears and even my generation despite the impossible odds posed by Nigeria are still blazing the trails in all facets of human endeavours .
Even if the Yorubas start to snooz from now till the end of time, whatever tribe you come from would still never measure up.

Blazing trails by exporting Agbo jedijedi all over the subcontinent? Every nook & cranny of cities in Nigeria is filled with Yoruba ladies who are Agbo-jedijedi hawkers by day and #200 till daybreak Ashaawos at night, and this one is here yarning thrash.

I already planned to stop replying your posts but your arrogance wouldn't just allow me let the sleeping dog lie .
I sincerely wish you come out with your chest to do your anti Yoruba propaganda so we'd know where to direct our missiles .

My last post was as devoid of insults as it should be, yet it hurt you so badly, cos the truth always hurts.

Is it not the same Yoruba and their media that parrot your sufferings in the hands of the Hausa/Fulani .
But you worthless piece of gabbage is here saying we should brace up ..Brace up for what if I may ask ?? What a careless statement from an ungrateful leech .

May thunder locate that mouth you use to gulp hydraulic Ewedu soup.
Which media? Are u the owners of Channels tv, Silverbird or Ait? Or are u talking of Lagos/Ibadan express media? Same media with which you use to promote the terrorist Buhari as Nigeria's Messiah?
Has your media ever bought guns for my people to fight back and defend their lands? You must be sick in the head.
Your people are still living in Kaduna & Jos today because my people welcomed you and allowed u stay with us when your Hausa fulani brothers in Islam used u for Suya.
Your people are still surviving in Kano because of Sabongari which Igbos defended with their blood and money and u are here talking about one satanic media.
See, Do not reply me any further cos u are increasing my hatred for Yorubas and I do not want it to be so. I have no reason to hate Yorubas and I don't want it to be so. Pls!

Because the Yorubas 'll die when you stop sending yams to the South West abi . Are we getting the yams free of charge

Imagine a barbarian from inarguably the un safest zone of the shit.hole writing nonsense on nairaland
When did Omo onile ever attack a group of worshipers, burning them and subsequently feeding on their flesh ??

Omoniles don't feed on human flesh, but the Yoruba owned skull mining & Human Abattoir stock exchange does. Idiiot.
Your region is safe yet people get missing everyday and the few lucky ones who are found, come out to tell tales of how they were captured and chained like goats in a foresthouse awaiting for slaughter. All, so that one Alhaja or Baba Olowo will throw Owambe.
Gosh, Yorubas disgust me!

You should spend your energy helping your folks scattered in the various IDP camps in Plateau get back to their homes and stop chasing shadows on nairaland .

Spend that same energy of yours in recovering Ilorin or recapturing your forests that have been dominated by herdsmen.
You guys are not ashamed that u are a majority group and yet your fellow majority group (Fulanis) fvck you skin to skin from Behind. Let us see how your spineless Amotekun will evict Fulanis from the Forests of Oyo & Ogun.

Goke7:
guy we dey wait for your rally o, remember to bring it to the SW too, bunch of jokers. Nobody I repeat nobody apart from the SW has a plan or agenda for secession, the nnmadi kanu you dey yan, where is his agenda? no be to cash out e dey use biafra noise do? you guys must really be hungry to use rallies as a blackmail or avenue to cash out too. unserious things

Why are we going to bring our rallies to the SW? Is that not Yorubaland?

However, we have a more strategic territory than Yorubas and that is FCT-Abuja.

Abuja is middlebelt land and all the villages, towns and natives surrounding every part of the
nation's capital city are Middlebelters.

You Yorubas surround the economic capital of Nigeria, but for the average Core-northerner, they wouldn't care if Lagos burns to ashes all in a bid to curb seccessionism, after all, the money that sustains them comes from the Nigerdelta and not the SW.
Infact I think the average Hausa fulani would be happy if Lagos is destroyed and the South looses economic ownership of the country.

But Hausa fulanis can never joke with Abuja cos they have so so many properties and stake there. If we start protesting, Hausa fulani soldiers cannot impound us the way they did to Igbos in the SE or the Shiites in Abuja, cos if they try that, the whole of Abuja will catch fire (especially the Suburban towns).
And God forbid if Abuja goes into conflict like Jos or Kaduna and it assumes a religious dimension.
It will immediately lead to the expulsion of Hausa fulani/muslims from most of the suburban towns of Abuja, cos they do not have the numbers there.

And our advantage is that Middlebelt christians & Igbos are the 2 largest groups of people in Abuja, making up at least 65% of the population

I laugh at Yorubas who make noise about them being the ones holding Nigeria together.
No matter the noise that Yorubas make in Nigeria, without the support of other Southerners, Hausa fulani army will crush you people like nothing. And you have nothing on them and nothing will happen.
You people should thank God that the Igbos are by default anti-Arewa, so whenever Yorubas decide to be anti-Arewa, the Igbos are always at default by your side, making u look more important than u actually are.

The British and the Hausa fulanis themselves knew how terribly powerful the pagan tribes of central Nigeria would become when they were united and that was why they did everything on Earth possible to weaken us by
1)Promoting the spread of Islam in our midst by limiting missionary work
2) Creating Hausa fulani Emirate settlements in our midst
3) Promoting the use of Hausa language than any of the native languages to be our lingua franca.
Many of our own people do not even know this. But we thank God for the internet.

There is a reason why 90% of the foot soldiers who fought the civil war were from my region and till date only my people can match Hausa fulani numbers in the military.

The unity of all Northern & middlebelt Christian tribes against the Core-north will be the end of Nigeria and this is coming very very soon.

And where are those people who claim that muslims are more in the middlebelt? They should come and explain to us how Abuja (the centre of the Middlebelt) is predominantly Christian. Fooolishness.

Covidodo:
No one is saying it would change the state .
I was merely telling you where the power lies politically in Kaduna state . And they were able to do this effortlessly because they have the clear numerical advantage as against the lies you've been peddling that the Christians are more than the Hausa/Fulani in Kaduna.
Kapish

Quote me anywhere, I have never said that Christians outnumber Muslims in Kaduna state! The highest I say is 50-50. And this is most likely the true reflection.

Kaduna city however could be Christian majority cos Christians control more territory in Kaduna city. But Zaria city is there to neutralize this.

Also, I have never argued with you that Hausa fulanis do not dominate Kaduna state politics. Of course they do! My point is that their domination of the state's politics cannot in any way stop the choices of Southern Kaduna people.
If Southern Kaduna people want to agitate for seccession, can Zaria stop them?

Goke7:
so you are a conquered territory you don dey talk true small small and you wan do secession from who? my friend, take back your locality first

Can we say Lagos is conquered land because about half of the population of Lagos are settlers??

Seccession is the only way we can fully take back our land cos the laws of Nigeria give everyone the right to live and work anywhere.

As much as Hausas hate Igbos, it will not be easy for them to drive Igbos out of Sabongari (Kano).

Covidodo:
So we should take the words of your mouth at face value and discard statistics from reputable sources ??

Which yeye cost of living are you saying
Are you saying Plateau is economically more viable than Ogun , Lagos , Oyo and Ondo because the cost of living in Plateau is lower ??
This is the most ridiculous submission ever abi what do you mean by " take into account cost of living".

While I won't dismiss the fact that Yorubas are living in Jos , I personally don't know any Yoruba person living in Jos.
By the way , aren't Yorubas living in Bornu, Adamawa and Yobe as I type?? So what's your point . In fact , 3 of my classmates ( Yoruba) are working in Yobe state at the moment .

The crux is the fact that your state/ethnicity can never measure up with any of the South western state either in this life or in the hereafter . Your plateau isn't any different from other war torn states like Bornu , Adamawa and Yobe in all Socio economic indices . Facts are stubborn!!!

Lastly , you should channel your energy towards getting your people that are scattered in different IDP camps in Plateau back to their homes not coming here to try and measure dicks with an ethnic group that is heads and shoulders above whatever group you belong to.

Plateau state as with most northern states have a lower cost of living, so common sense should tell you that if the same monetary standard is used to calculate my state and yours, yours will always rank higher than mine even though we have the same standards of living or quality of life!

And that is where GDP PPP (Purchasing power parity) comes in.

For example, If you earn 200k in Ogun state and I earn 100k in Plateau state. You will not necessarily enjoy a higher quality of life than me.
However, if statistics want to estimate our wealthiness and poverty since we are in the same country, they will say that you are richer than me.
100k could even give me a better quality of life in Jos than 200k will give you in Ogun state due to the lower cost of living.

This is the big mistake that Westerners make when they come out to say 50% of Nigerians are living below the poverty line just because we spend less than $2 a day.
These people fail to understand that tens of millions of Nigerians produce their own food, medicine, build their own houses, provide their own services, and do not pay taxes, rents, water rates, mortgage, health insurance, tuition fees, childcare e.t.c.


And for the records, you can never compare the number of Yorubas living in Jos to those in the entire Northeast!
Yorubas have been in Jos since the 1930s when they came in their thousands to work on the tin mines. Only Kaduna can have more Yorubas than Jos in the entire North, even Kano & Abuja will find it difficult.

And Kaduna can only have more Yorubas than Jos because of the Kwara & Kogi Yoruba factor.
Kaduna was capital of old Northern region which Kwara & Kogi Yorubas were a part of, so, many of them settled in Kaduna as their regional capital.

To tell you how much Yorubas are in Jos, in the 2010 Jos crisis, Yorubas were dragging casualties with the indigenes & Hausa fulani community. And in the 2008 crisis, the Oba Yoruba Jos even claimed higher casualties.

Cc Legendhero, forgiveness, Myobjective, Candidtalk

Iamgrey5:
You are imposible tbh

So Who are the non Yorubas in Ekiti and Osun.

Your problem is that you type with your emotions and not with your brain.
Nairaland has wired you to see every letter as an attack on Yoruba.

I said Ekiti & Osun has less Yoruba population than Ondo, Oyo & Ogun in the sense that there are more Yoruba citizens (numbers) in the latter than the former. Oyo, Ogun & Ondo states are more populated than Ekiti & Osun states. That was what I was trying to say.
I wasn't talking about other the presence of other tribes in those states.

If u know u will not type with your reasoning in tact, pls don't quote or mention me from henceforth cos I don't want to tow the ground level of insults anymore.

forgiveness:
Babcock admitted only 4 students according to your list!?

Hypocrite! Didn't you see your Yoruba brother Ayekotoo when he did the same thing and posted a list of only 4 Yoruba names as well?

I was just giving him a taste of his own medicine

candidtalk:
You talk a lot but one thing is missing. You are totally unable to defer to facts and reality because you are 100% a creature of sentiment. In short a highly emotional and therefore unreasonable person.

The Yorubas are the ethnic group predicted to have the best chances of success if Nigeria break up. This is not difficult for an objective person to conclude considering the SW has, by far, the best mix of human and material resources plus geographical endowment.

The Yorubas are well-educated, liberal, religiously tolerant and culturally rich. All the qualities that promotes cosmopolitan and diverse society that keeps attracting the best human resources wherever it may be from.

Every facet of life that complements full nationhood is optimal in the SW already be it entertainment, leisure options, best socio-economic balance by far in Nigeria, strong political and democratic culture , diverse, innovative and driven populace always focused on optimal self-development.

Add to that already potent mix a thriving skilled labor sector, superb and highly competent diasporan class, democratic and relatively sophisticated electorate, biggest middle class in Nigeria and perhaps West Africa, world recognition and goodwill courtesy of the good achievements of Yorubas beyond the borders of Nigeria with many universally acclaimed ambassadors to secure continuous partnership with nations of the world, etc, etc, etc, etc.

All this meaning Yorubas can hit the ground running from day one and need nothing from others which is more than can be said for the middle belt, North, SE or SS. Not possible at all for the Yorubas to be unity beggars given their natural endowment.

The Yorubas are just a circumspect people who think critically always before they act unlike other emotional Nigerians always rushing to cut their nose to spite their face only to drag Yorubas into the hatefest they have gone to cultivate to then accuse Yorubas of "betrayal" when we refuse to take side over toxic animosity we did not cause or encourage.

When the time is right for the Yoruba, and not just right for the Igbos or anyone else, then we will leave if that is the best option for us with nothing and no one being able to stop us. So shout unity beggar till you lose your voice. Your problem.

Overall Yorubas always bide their time so they make fewer mistakes. History vindicate the efficacy of that approach unlike the rash Igbos who lurch from one disaster to the next predictably to be pariahs and laughing stock fourth class Nigerians today.

A laughable sure sign of what is to become of Biafra can be gleaned from the fact that Igbos, supposedly erudite and intelligent, are led by a lunatic with zero credibility locally or internationally today!! What indicates Biafra is doomed more than for P0rnstar Kanu to be the biggest voice of the Igbos today?

IPOB proscribed and BSS a non-starter yet Amotekun exists today supported by Nigerian legislation showing that results boil down to strategy, planning and diplomacy.

Ala Igbo, because of hateful politics, stagnant today and only able to impotently curse a government Igbos myopically refused to support whereas the SW is attracting a great deal of infrastructure and progress to the region to move further ahead as the premier region and economy of Nigeria.

I think any neutral observer would conclude that the ways of the Yorubas is most productive and sure-footed. Nothing at all to do with unity begging or any such nonsense. Just politically sophisticated, mature, wise and pragmatic behavior.

I started out this thread in a very calm and coordinated approach, but your stupid brothers here forced me into going sentimental & emotional by being insulting and arrogant.

People like you and Legendhero, forgiveness & Myobjective who are more reasonable and prefer to have factual & intelligent conversations should learn to immediately call out the likes Ayekotoo, Covidodo, Iamgrey5, Goke7. And not liking their comments, then you go on to call others sentimental when they give you the same dosage of silliness your brothers display.
That's being a 2 faced bastard!


Since you have called me out in an intelligent way, I will respect you and refrain from a vulgar and sentimental language. To demonstrate your integrity, also call out your Yoruba brothers and let us see who will first use insulting words on each other.


Back to the topic. You see, in life, everything has it's advantages and disadvantage. Both the Igbo and Yoruba approach to things have their advantages & disadvantages.

I fully agree with you that Igbos tend to be more emotional, sentimental and brash in their actions and decisions, While Yorubas tend to be more tolerant, diplomatic, calculative and slow to action...
Both systems have their advantages & disadvantages. Take that from me.

The system of approach of you Yorubas can be interpreted as COWARDICE, depending on the situation, even though you guys may not really be cowards. While that of Igbos can translated as BRAVERY even though it may not necessarily be.

My own people are/were more like your own people. Very tolerant and slow to action and that is why everyone took advantage of us.... Especially our Hausa fulani neighbors.

Ask any of your person who has lived with Northern christians, they will tell u that we are the most peaceful, laid-back and easy-going people in Nigeria.
I am even a bit hotheaded and not like the typical northern Christian because I spent a considerable part of my life in Delta state and I guess I have imbibed the character of you Southerners

This tolerant nature of ours was what helped our land develop so much. Jos, Kaduna & Abuja are our lands and if you count the 10 biggest urban areas in Nigeria, these 3 will make the list. Our people are not a very enterprising people. On our own, we couldn't have developed these 3 cities to the extent they are.
Apart from Lagos & perhaps PH, I can beat my chest to say that no other cities in Nigeria are as cosmopolitan as Jos & Kaduna.
Abuja can be excused as the FCT.
That is why in spite of all the crisis and fighting in Jos & Kaduna, most Southerners refuse to leave both cities.
We don't have armed robbers or scammers among our people. We don't have touts like Agberos, Owomidas, Omoniles et al wo harass settlers. We sell lands at giveaway prices to settlers. We are a very cheap source of labour to investors. So many positive effects of our character.

Hausa fulanis are just the ones bringing out the beast/intolerance in us. And unfortunately, they will fully succeed in that.

Anyway, you can see how well our manner of approach has helped us .... At the same time, that same character of ours is destroying us.

Hausa fulanis have taken advantage of it and are now using it to claim ownership of our homelands and trying to dominate us on our own lands.
You Southerners are not as evil as Hausa fulanis but you also take advantage of us one way or the other.
You will not believe that times without number, our LG and state govt tax collectors will go to Igbo traders for tax and the Igbo youths will give these indigenes serious beating. Out of a peaceful character, we will not attack the Igbos. We will settle it amicably. Can other tribes try such a thing in Igboland if they will not be killed?

I also see the way Igbos talkdown on you Yorubas claiming that they own Lagos and will buy it up and all manners of disrespect. That is actually very wrong and only possible due to the tolerant nature of you Yorubas.
Igbos cannot try such a thing in Sokoto or Kano.
Neither can anyone try such with them.

Here is another disadvantage of the manner of approach of you Yorubas.
Thousands of Yorubas came to Jos to work on the tin mines during the pre-colonial tin mining era...
The British gave your people lands in Jos to settle, the same way they gave Hausa fulanis & Igbos/Bendelites. The latter lost theirs during the Nigerian civil war, although they came back to reclaim part of it.
But it will shock you to know that in the 2008 Jos crisis, Hausa fulanis evicted Yorubas from the area that Yorubas have been living and dominating for more than 7 decades! And Yorubas couldn't do any thing about it! Many of them relocated back to the SW while others moved to other areas of Jos.
It is this same 'tolerant and calculative' character of yours that made u people loose that area. Why in hell should Hausa fulanis evict you in a city that they themselves are also settlers just as you are??
The only people who should be able to evict you are the natives and not fellow settlers as you are!
Hausa fulanis can never try that with the Igbos! Even in Hausaland, Igbos fight back Hausa fulanis! Igbos kill Hausa fulanis in Sabongari (Kano city)!
And that is why Hausa youths never go to that area to attack Christians no matter how crazy they are.
Christians have a stronghold and even form a majority in Kaduna central market area because of the Igbos ..... Igbos dominate the businesses there 60-40 against Hausa fulanis and these Igbos never fail to own guns to protect their businesses from Hausa fulanis.

There used to be a Yoruba dominated part of Kano (I have forgotten the name of the place), but Hausa fulanis have evicted you people from that place in the retaliation crisis in Kano to the Shagamu crisis in Ogun state.



I am an upcoming leader of my people and I have seen that Igbos are the best friends my people can have in Nigeria and I will exploit that to the fullest in the shortest possible time.
Igbos are more predictable & trustworthy. They do not change. There are sometimes in life that one needs that 'Sharp sentimental instinct' to survive and not the 'tolerant diplomatic' approach. Also vice versa.

I am not saying that you Yorubas are bad people, NO! Just that your actions and body language can be easily interpreted as COWARDICE & UNTRUSTWORTHINESS...
It may be your survival tactic in Nigeria. And you guys can continue to stick to it if you think it works for you.

Just that at the end of the day, everyone should be ready to bear the positives and negatives of their SYSTEM OF APPROACH.

I am slightly more anti-Yoruba than I am anti-Igbo here on nairaland simply cos I see that my People's interests and that of Igbos are beginning to allign or at least should allign.
It is likely to get worse in the future, cos many of my people are beginning to share my sentiments, so I have to tell you Yoruba people to brace up for more people like me coming for you

Anyway, where are the fulanis ( IamAtikulate or DanArrewa) who created this thread? They have ran away and allowed the rest of us to argue, fight and hate ourselves right?

Is this not their usual game of divide and rule tactic, yet we always fall for it?.
A thread on nairaland will be created for Hausa fulani against Yorubas or Igbos and that same thread will end up being a Yoruba vs Igbo thread.
That is the reason why these same Fulanis call us EDUCATED FOOOLS.

@Iamgrey5, Legendhero, forgiveness e.t.c

Nasarawa, Adamawa & Taraba states have like 30-35% Muslims each and that is why their figures are lower than that of Plateau but not as low as core-northern states.

Where are those mugus like Covidodo et Al who are claiming that Kano is ahead of Plateau state?
Can't they see that Kano state is 38% literate & Plateau is 63%?
Kano is even reaching that number because of the huge population of Christian & Middlebelt settlers. Take them away and it will go to 20% just as is obtainable in Zamfara, Sokoto e.t.c.

Kaduna state has the highest literacy rate in the NW and why is that so? SOUTHERN KADUNA PEOPLE (my people) are half of the state's population.
This is very clear for all you foools comparing my People's literacy rates to that of Hausa fulanis.

Iamgrey5:
I don't get your point

So are you saying the Fulani in your state are more than the quater of the population because your state has about 60% literacy rate. Which means about 1 out every three person is an illiterate.

Regardless, Lagos has the highest number of Yorubas in Nigeria, yet you claim we should not add it for the Yorubas because there are other people in the state.

However, when I pointed to other states, you still claim we should not add those states to the Yorubas because the population is too small even though Osun has more population than your state of origin according to the 2006 population census.

If you must know, the population of the two states are more than 6 million people


Finally, you have now resolved to another argument that South East/South south have more educated people than south west even though Eboyin is actually the only state in the entire south with 70% literacy rate which is the least in the south.

Even Kwara with more presence of the Fulani/Nupe Muslims is ranked higher than the Plateau, Nasarawa, Adamawa etc. that you claim to represent.

Your problem is that you are too emotional and you can't seem to hang on to a point because you flip/flop alot.

@Sunshine5g

I noticed that some of you Yoruba people are manipulative psychopaths.
You guys like to force words into the mouth of someone.
I said that we have so many muslims in Plateau, and how does this translate to Fulani population?

At least 20% of Plateau state are Muslims. Half of these muslims are Hausa and settler tribes in Jos while the other half are indigenous muslims & fulanis.

All northern muslims who speak Hausa as a 1st or 2nd language are naturally regressive.

Kogi & Kwara Muslims are not the regressive type! And that also goes for the Nupe & Bariba Muslims in Kwara north. ....

If u take away the 20% muslim population from Plateau state, instead of our literacy rate to be 63%, it would be something like 78%, just as u can see with our sister state Benue!

Covidodo:
You better leave that loser ..
They just butchered over 2 dozens of his people in his plateau yesterday but the loser is here measuring his flaccid dick with others .

I wish him well with his utopian Christian only middle Belt republic

See this mugu. Don't fulani herdsmen also attack your own people too inspite of the fact that u are in the south?

These people the fulanis attack also kill fulanis too like nonsense, but most times it does not make it to the news cos herdsmen do not have access to the media.

forgiveness:
Two states apart from Lagos has 90. Lagos state is Yoruba dominanted in population and everything.

According to your logic, Rivers state is dominated by non SS.

Just swallow your pride and agree SW are ahead of any region in Education.

You are the one making unnecessary noise here.

SW

Ekiti - 95.79
Osun - 90.97
Lagos - 96.3
Ogun - 81.79
Ondo- 81.15
Oyo - 80.25


SS

Akwa Ibom - 78:84
Bayelsa - 86.83
Cross River - 89.03
Delta - 87.43
Edo - 90.53
Rivers - 95.76

Itsekiri are under the umbrella of Afenifere. A Yoruba social cultural group. That's who Itsekiris are.

See this one. Did you take the average of the statistics you just dropped?

I just took the average and the
SS states are 88.07
SW states are 87.70.

Now tell me who is ahead of who . Clowns.

Since I joined this thread and you Yorubas attacked me, I have been disgracing you people with your own facts!

So the Nigerdeltans are more educated than the Yorubas. Full stop

Cc Legendhero, Myobjective

Goke7:
igbos that has refused to leave the SW, mark my words, na dem go rush our citizenship pass anybody. We don't need to promote secession, anytime it happens we are most ready but others who claim they are ready are just lying and using it as a blackmail to get more from the so called country they loathe.

And why in hell should Igbos leave the SW?

They are only going to leave when they get independence.

In 1967 they left and we all brought them back to be with us.

So far so good the Igbos have shown that they truly believe that they are better off without Nigeria, while you Yorubas start bedwetting at the mention of the division of Nigeria

Iamgrey5:
Why do you behave like this ?

Right there in the map is Osun and Ekiti with above 90% literacy rate, while your state is struggling with core north.

My state is not a pure reflection of my people because we have many Hausa fulanis and muslims settlers in our midst. Take away these retrogressive lots and we will be something like 75 where u can see the likes of Benue.

If we are to take the average of SS & SW, the SW will not be higher than the SS. Besides, Ekiti & Osun have a far smaller population of Yorubas compared to Oyo, Ondo & Ogun.

Goke7:
Unity beggars? you must be joking
the yorubas already have an agenda should Nigeria disintegrates, I tell you only the yorubas are truly ready if Nigeria divides, the SE shouting for biafra are not ready with their continuous dependence on SW for survival including the north that ordinary mention of amotekun, they could not sleep well again.

We are the ones holding this nation together and the day we are finally tired, you guys will be dazed

Agenda my nyaash. You people that start shaking, shivering and catching could when Nnamdi Kanu was in Nigeria rallying and gaining popularity.

When Python dance came on Nnamdi Kanu your people were masturbating everywhere in orgasm and happiness.

If you Yorubas truly believe in yourselves, your superiority and self sufficiency, you guys would have been at the forefront on seccession agitations in Nigeria.

See Catalonia, they believe in themselves and know that they will do better without Spain and that is why they want out.

You Yorubas only brag about your self sufficiency online, but as soon as you hear Igbos seccession force hitting hard, you start pissing on your pants.

Actions speak louder than words, you guys are the biggest unity beggars in Nigeria.


Personally, my own group will soon start sponsoring pro seccession rallies from Jos to Kaduna to Nasarawa & Taraba, Abuja, Benue e.t.c.

I promise you guys will see this by latest next year.
Then we will know who the true unity beggars are.

Cc Legendhero, Myobjective, forgiveness

Covidodo:
Yes bro..
According to the NBS , his plateau is one of the 6 poorest states in Nigeria .

Why would anyone even compare the Aleppo looking Plateau with any south western states for crying out loud ??

What are thousands of Yorubas still doing in Jos? Why are these Yorubas not living in Yobe or Jigawa states?

Stupid, senseless and pointless statistics.

Statistics that do not take into account the cost of living of places.

Ayekotoo:
You have forgotten what you typed? Let me remind you again. You wrote that 70 percent of universities in southwest are non yoruba. I brought links of admission pages of Covenant and Babcock.
80 percent of students being admitted into Universities in southwest are Yorubas.

I also said that Covenant universitiy was 35% Yoruba, 35% Igbo, 20% SS and 10% Middlebeltees and so far so good the facts on ground are closer to mine than yours!

You claimed Yorubas outnumbered non-Yorubas in the school, you were even the one who brought the fvcking list!
We did the counting and you lost! Now u are trying to save face. Abeg comot for here.

People like Legendhero learn from their comments and know what they are saying, but your likes are very very shameless who see facts in the face and still deny it.

Don't ever quote me again.
You brought out a list with which u were defeated, instead of u to hide your face in shame, u are still talking.

Ayekotoo:
James Faleke would have been Governor if not for the delayed announcement of Audu Abubakar as the governor - elect.

How did an Ebira become Governor of Kogi? By the way Yorubas have been deputy for long.

Tinubu had no balls to stand for his boy James Faleke. His Lord and savior Buhari rubbished him.

So help me tell that mushi mushi called Covidodo or whatever that if Ebiras & Nupes could be governors of Yoruba dominated Kwara and yet it did not change the state, then a Hausa governor ruling Kaduna state will not change the state.

Goke7:
and you still said they are illiterates

For the umpteenth time!

They are illiterates who are very good in business.

LegendHero:
C’mon do you see my attachments? Benin city was also discussed in the attachments and it was called a village compared to the Western states called cities as at those 1890s-1900s period. Anyway I’m not here to debate Benin.

This argument is not about win or losses, it’s about learning. You once said I was lying that I should provide the evidence to my claim and I already did.

Let’s move on to another argument.

En en. What are you saying about Jos and your Nasco Nasco Nasco. Are you saying Jos has more industries than Ibadan?

By number or by net-worth of industries? Is that what you’re claiming?

And I replied you that 10 cupcakes cannot compare a gigantic mega cake

Nasco is an Indigenous African company with it's headquarters in Jos. It's CEO lives in Jos. And it is worth $460 million... Show me such in Ibadan let me deactivate my account

I also listed other industries in Jos for u didn't I?

Here is a list of just the mining industries in Jos!

1. Plateau Ceramics
2. NESCO LTD Jos
3. Makeri smelting company Jos
4. Naraguta bricks & clay products Jos
5. Nimco Terrazoo company Kuru
6. Nigerian Tin & allied products
7. Nigerian Kaolin processing company Kuru.

Ayekotoo:
British America tobacco headquarters is in your village.

How much is the British America tobacco Nigeria worth? Peanuts.
And is their head office in Ibadan? I doubt.
Is it an Indigenous West African company? Hell NO!
I checked their website and see how terrible and crappy it looked!

http://www.batnigeria.com/

Compare it with Nasco's website

https://www.nasco.net/

And see the difference in class!

Goke7:
the guy must be an igbo dude pretending to be from the middle belt to deflect more thrashing, e dey their blood

Hahaha, suit yourself!

Since I joined nairaland in 2013, I have always been about middlebelt. So I must have become Igbo overnight right?

Some of u are just so surprised that someone who is not Igbo is giving u people hot raw sauce

Covidodo:
Exactly bro..
I already told him there's really no difference between the Hausa/Fulani he comes here to disparage and the Middle Belt tribes especially the ones from the North East like Gombe , Plateau , Taraba and Adamawa .

Heck some Hausa/Fulani states like Kano clearly shit on top of those aforementioned states in every socioeconomic index .

The bloke manufactures statistics like liepobs

Kano can never be ahead of Plateau or any middlebelt state in anything educational, but they can be ahead in anything financial because they have 3 times the population of Plateau and it is the headquarters of anything in Hausa land.

There are 9 Hausa fulani Kanuri muslim dominated states, why is Kano the only place with any reasonable ranking?