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Maximus69:
@Shadeyinka!
This is why i said LET HER ASK FOR WHAT TO DO!
Now she feels what happened is normal even after pointing out her flaws!

So thanks Ma, God bless you!

shadeyinka:
You said it: 50 Pages!
How do you make a Washing machine reason with you!?
Impossible!
A washing machine has been programmed to do just one thing: to wash clothes. So it is with JWs

Maximus69:
It's her NOT you, so let her open her mouth to ask! Matthew 7:7

Maximus69:
Another wrong perception Ma!

Jesus is NOT lost so he is not to be found rather he sent his followers to go in search of the LOST sheep of the house of Israel! Matthew 10:6, 15:24

So you're wrong again Ma, the SHEPHERD is NOT lost but his sheep! That is why he said that when his lost sheep hears his voice they will recognise it, because Jehovah's Witnesses are always in the neighbourhood carrying the message of the SHEPHERD so that humble ones will quickly grasp the voice of the SHEPHERD through our PRESENTATIONS! John 10:27

May you have PEACE!

Maximus69:
Go out there and make disciples for Jesus Ma, because Jehovah's Witnesses are zealously working round the clock making more disciples for our Master, Lord and King!
So instead of worrying your brains on social media, go and speak with your neighbours, they're your responsibility NOT me that you can't even SEE my face here on Nairaland!
Make peace with your neighbours as in those living close to you, that is the tactics NOT hiding your face behaving badly towards them to start spewing gibberish that you can't even practice on FACELESS social media!

Maximus69:
No wonder there is great confusion amongst your folks!

So each of you expects the holy spirit to speak PRIVATELY to him/her?

Well i have heard what the spirit said today, and it doesn't contradict what was spoken to over 8,000,000 brothers and sisters across the globe!

That is why we move as ONE body! John 17:20-23

Unlike your folks whose spirit speaks twisted things making it so hard for all of you to be united in FAITH! 1Corinthians 12:25

Try to ask Shadeyinka about Maximus, i'm a bonafide member of the global JW today, fully competent and completely equipped to defend the TRUTH anytime, anywhere! Isaiah 54:17

Maximus69:
No wonder there is great confusion amongst your folks!

So each of you expects the holy spirit to speak PRIVATELY to him/her?

Well i have heard what the spirit said today, and it doesn't contradict what was spoken to over 8,000,000 brothers and sisters across the globe!

That is why we move as ONE body! John 17:20-23

Unlike your folks whose spirit speaks twisted things making it so hard for all of you to be united in FAITH! 1Corinthians 12:25

Try to ask Shadeyinka about Maximus, i'm a bonafide member of the global JW today, fully competent and completely equipped to defend the TRUTH anytime, anywhere! Isaiah 54:17

Maximus69:
I hope you truly grasp what that word means!
Because the first sign of rebellion is disorder! 1Corinthians 12:25
Jehovah's Witnesses are orderly and well organised to submit to divine rules {ICorinthians 1:10} whereas you people are advocates of self standards making it difficult for orderliness to flourish amongst you. Matthew 12:30
And now you are talking of REBELLION!
Abeg what are the attributes of Satan and his rebellious counterparts? Genesis 3:4-5
Because without a clearer picture of all these, you can NEVER know the TRUTH!

Maximus69:
You're now going back to the old fruitless arguments and pointless accusations that i've been avoiding all these while!
Imagine, just because i made simple presentations and you feel it's convincing, the next thing to call me is WITCH! 1Peter 2:12
Please what will you call Paul whose presentation melted Agrippa's heart? Act 26:26-28
Paul even spoke of persuasive words {2Timothy 3:14} of fully competent and completely equipped Christians! 2Timothy 3:17

Now you're contradicting yourself and complicating the whole issue!

¤Should one read the Bible alone with a pure heart and beg God for the understanding?
Or
¤Listen and learn from certain men of God before he can fully grasp the meaning of the scriptures?

Because Jesus spoke to Paul directly from heaven, yet he still directed Paul to GO AND TAKE INSTRUCTIONS FROM CERTAIN MEN OF GOD! Act 9:6
Why didn't Jesus just send holy spirit to teach Paul?
Why directing him to his disciples for instructions?

Well my wife is one of the happiest women on earth because i treats her as my everything!
Last week i even followed her to pick a suitable nail polish @ the supermarkets!
Sorry Ma, you got it all wrong about me!

Maximus69:
You're now going back to the old fruitless arguments and pointless accusations that i've been avoiding all these while!
Imagine, just because i made simple presentations and you feel it's convincing, the next thing to call me is WITCH! 1Peter 2:12
Please what will you call Paul whose presentation melted Agrippa's heart? Act 26:26-28
Paul even spoke of persuasive words {2Timothy 3:14} of fully competent and completely equipped Christians! 2Timothy 3:17

Now you're contradicting yourself and complicating the whole issue!

¤Should one read the Bible alone with a pure heart and beg God for the understanding?
Or
¤Listen and learn from certain men of God before he can fully grasp the meaning of the scriptures?

Because Jesus spoke to Paul directly from heaven, yet he still directed Paul to GO AND TAKE INSTRUCTIONS FROM CERTAIN MEN OF GOD! Act 9:6
Why didn't Jesus just send holy spirit to teach Paul?
Why directing him to his disciples for instructions?

Well my wife is one of the happiest women on earth because i treats her as my everything!
Last week i even followed her to pick a suitable nail polish @ the supermarkets!
Sorry Ma, you got it all wrong about me!

Janosky:
Oturugbeke !!!! Shuuooo !!!!!!!

Question for Nutarious:
Any woman wey no fit senior you in any way at all, & her level no pass your own levels. You go adopt am as your mother, dey call am " my Mama"?

Maximus69:
If you have started this way, and NEVER mentioning your husband who referred to believers as ROBOTIC Homosapien, your point will be easily assimilated by one and all!
You can't SEE any fruit on FACELESS social media since you need to SEE those bearing the FRUIT before you can notice the FRUIT. Matthew 5:14-16
But you can also discern by carefully reading and meditating on the presentation of each person, because the kind of spirit each person possesses will reflect in what comes out of their minds! Luke 6:45
What you're concentrating on is the doctrines that you're used to already, so anything outside that becomes evil to you. Instead of considering the manner and approach of each presenter {1Peter 3:15} you are taking side with what you know before.
That is why i keep saying 'leave the theory and go for the practical' because with theories each person will stiff his neck for what he was taught to believe, but the practical will reveal WHO GOT IT RIGHT! James 2:26
Jehovah's Witnesses are one body of a global family of worshipers with our own theory, and we're ever ready to say 'let's see what your faith is doing with your groups' {James 2:18} though most of you hate hearing that word GROUP because NO other group is able to stand out like Jehovah's Witnesses! Matthew 5:14-16 compared to 1Peter 2:12

Maximus69:
If you have started this way, and NEVER mentioning your husband who referred to believers as ROBOTIC Homosapien, your point will be easily assimilated by one and all!
You can't SEE any fruit on FACELESS social media since you need to SEE those bearing the FRUIT before you can notice the FRUIT. Matthew 5:14-16
But you can also discern by carefully reading and meditating on the presentation of each person, because the kind of spirit each person possesses will reflect in what comes out of their minds! Luke 6:45
What you're concentrating on is the doctrines that you're used to already, so anything outside that becomes evil to you. Instead of considering the manner and approach of each presenter {1Peter 3:15} you are taking side with what you know before.
That is why i keep saying 'leave the theory and go for the practical' because with theories each person will stiff his neck for what he was taught to believe, but the practical will reveal WHO GOT IT RIGHT! James 2:26
Jehovah's Witnesses are one body of a global family of worshipers with our own theory, and we're ever ready to say 'let's see what your faith is doing with your groups' {James 2:18} though most of you hate hearing that word GROUP because NO other group is able to stand out like Jehovah's Witnesses! Matthew 5:14-16 compared to 1Peter 2:12

Janosky:
Let the Bible respond to your screenshots 2.
John 5:18, "Jesus was calling God his Father" it's no crime.
But the Jews LIED "he was making himself equal to God."
*** John5:19 the son does, copies whatever his Father is doing. Son and Father are in agreement working together.

** ** Same for John14:10 "the words I say are not just my own". Because Jesus works to please his Father ,John 8:29.
If you claim the son is in the Father,therefore he is God.
Likewise, Jesus disciples are in the Father and Son. therefore, they're one God. John 17:21-23.

##### John14:9 "he that has seen me has seen the Father also" , Jesus is not saying he's God. Jesus explains what john14:9 means-

$$$ John12:44,45 " Jesus cried out: "..... when he looks at me, he sees the one who sent me"
Matt10:40 "He who receives you receives me ,and he who receives me receives the one who sent me".
****Matt10:40,John 12:44,45 & John5:37 explains John 14:9,its crystal clear.

** When you see and receives the messenger, you have seen and received the One who sent him.
Jesus is not the Father. Jesus said nobody has seen his Father's figure and heard his voice John5:37.

Janosky:
Let the Bible respond to your screenshots 2.
John 5:18, "Jesus was calling God his Father" it's no crime.
But the Jews LIED "he was making himself equal to God."
*** John5:19 the son does, copies whatever his Father is doing. Son and Father are in agreement working together.

** ** Same for John14:10 "the words I say are not just my own". Because Jesus works to please his Father ,John 8:29.
If you claim the son is in the Father,therefore he is God.
Likewise, Jesus disciples are in the Father and Son. therefore, they're one God. John 17:21-23.

##### John14:9 "he that has seen me has seen the Father also" , Jesus is not saying he's God. Jesus explains what john14:9 means-

$$$ John12:44,45 " Jesus cried out: "..... when he looks at me, he sees the one who sent me"
Matt10:40 "He who receives you receives me ,and he who receives me receives the one who sent me".
****Matt10:40,John 12:44,45 & John5:37 explains John 14:9,its crystal clear.

** When you see and receives the messenger, you have seen and received the One who sent him.
Jesus is not the Father. Jesus said nobody has seen his Father's figure and heard his voice John5:37.

Janosky:
I have AVOIDED nothing, but you still resort to bring up Heb 1:10.
As usual the holy Scriptures will speak for itself....
**"* Heb1:10 is a repetition /quote of Psalms 102:25-27.
Let's begin from v24...
" So I said: do not take me ,away oh my God, in the midst of my days,your years go on through all generations.
v25 " In the beginning you laid the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the works of your hand......"
The Psalms 102:25-27 & Heb 1:10-13 is a reference to Jehovah, the God of David and Father of Jesus.
In Matt 11:25 Jesus calls his Father "Lord of heaven and earth", further proof that Heb 1:10-13 refers to 'Jehovah.

**

Jozzy4:
Even nutarious that quoted it has ran . you are still babbling

Father and holy spirit are two different PERSONS according to Trinity.

So which of them is Jesus Father, Did he have two persons has Father ?

Janosky:
Nutarious, when you "Call God your own Father", do you mean you are "making yourself equal with God"?

*** For once, be honest to yourself & answer the question above...***

I have AVOIDED nothing, but you still resort to bring up Heb 1:10.
As usual the holy Scriptures will speak for itself....
**"* Heb1:10 is a repetition /quote of Psalms 102:25-27.
Let's begin from v24...
" So I said: do not take me ,away oh my God, in the midst of my days,your years go on through all generations.
v25 " In the beginning you laid the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the works of your hand......"
The Psalms 102:25-27 & Heb 1:10-13 is a reference to Jehovah, the God of David and Father of Jesus.
In Matt 11:25 Jesus calls his Father "Lord of heaven and earth", further proof that Heb 1:10-13 refers to 'Jehovah.

*** Proverbs 8:22,27,29
" Lord Jehovah created me at the beginning of creation..."vs22

vs27 "I was there when He set the heavens in place..."

**vs29 " ...and when He marked out the foundation of the earth"

Jesus, the wisdom of God (1Cor1:24. Rev3:14) has revealed the truth.

Nutarious, you are either for the truth or against the truth.
Just make your choice.
Shalom.

Janosky:
I have AVOIDED nothing, but you still resort to bring up Heb 1:10.
As usual the holy Scriptures will speak for itself....
**"* Heb1:10 is a repetition /quote of Psalms 102:25-27.
Let's begin from v24...
" So I said: do not take me ,away oh my God, in the midst of my days,your years go on through all generations.
v25 " In the beginning you laid the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the works of your hand......"
The Psalms 102:25-27 & Heb 1:10-13 is a reference to Jehovah, the God of David and Father of Jesus.
In Matt 11:25 Jesus calls his Father "Lord of heaven and earth", further proof that Heb 1:10-13 refers to 'Jehovah.

**

Maximus69:
I never wanted to argue with shadeyinka from the onset, i found in his thread arguing about Islam and i felt 'this could be an interested person needing help! Act 18:24-26
He felt we're on the same page, quickly i told him there are prerequisites for becoming a true Christians, then i discovered he felt he is ok, so i tried to end the conversation but one alBHAGDADI cut in, insisting we talk further, i tried to make shadeyinka realised that it's of no need since we will never agree on sacred matters. But himself and the other guy kept saying 'JWs will run' So i set rules that will prevent our discussion from becoming exchange of insults due to certain inevitable difference!
The other guy couldn't cope as he's fund of insulting, abusing and cursing people whose believes differs or contradicts his own, leaving shadeyinka and i to discuss on doctrines FRIENDLY!
Now with the way we've made enough presentations, observers could clearly see who is exhibiting the fruitage of God's spirit and the one having the loosed spirit of the world!
By the end shadeyinka could say to me,
YOU ARE A PRETENDER!
YOU ARE NOT PIOUS!
YOUR ORGANIZATON WILL TAKE YOU TO LAKE OF FIRE!
YOUR ORGANIZATION IS A CULT!
And so on!

Maximus69:
I never wanted to argue with shadeyinka from the onset, i found in his thread arguing about Islam and i felt 'this could be an interested person needing help! Act 18:24-26
He felt we're on the same page, quickly i told him there are prerequisites for becoming a true Christians, then i discovered he felt he is ok, so i tried to end the conversation but one alBHAGDADI cut in, insisting we talk further, i tried to make shadeyinka realised that it's of no need since we will never agree on sacred matters. But himself and the other guy kept saying 'JWs will run' So i set rules that will prevent our discussion from becoming exchange of insults due to certain inevitable difference!
The other guy couldn't cope as he's fund of insulting, abusing and cursing people whose believes differs or contradicts his own, leaving shadeyinka and i to discuss on doctrines FRIENDLY!
Now with the way we've made enough presentations, observers could clearly see who is exhibiting the fruitage of God's spirit and the one having the loosed spirit of the world!
By the end shadeyinka could say to me,
YOU ARE A PRETENDER!
YOU ARE NOT PIOUS!
YOUR ORGANIZATON WILL TAKE YOU TO LAKE OF FIRE!
YOUR ORGANIZATION IS A CULT!
And so on!

Maximus69:
Thank you Sir, God will bless you abundantly Sir! Matthew 5:43-44

Don't worry about me and my people Sir, that 'LAKE OF FIRE' is not our problem!

After all it is we that will go there according to what your God told you, and we're not dragging you there!

So now that we've concluded that our Gods differs, can each person now go peacefully to doing the WILL of his/her God SEPARATELY p l e a s e? John 4:34

Janosky:
Let the Bible respond to your screenshots 2.
John 5:18, "Jesus was calling God his Father" it's no crime.
But the Jews LIED "he was making himself equal to God."
*** John5:19 the son does, copies whatever his Father is doing. Son and Father are in agreement working together.

** ** Same for John14:10 "the words I say are not just my own". Because Jesus works to please his Father ,John 8:29.
If you claim the son is in the Father,therefore he is God.
Likewise, Jesus disciples are in the Father and Son. therefore, they're one God. John 17:21-23.

##### John14:9 "he that has seen me has seen the Father also" , Jesus is not saying he's God. Jesus explains what john14:9 means-

$$$ John12:44,45 " Jesus cried out: "..... when he looks at me, he sees the one who sent me"
Matt10:40 "He who receives you receives me ,and he who receives me receives the one who sent me".
****Matt10:40,John 12:44,45 & John5:37 explains John 14:9,its crystal clear.

** When you see and receives the messenger, you have seen and received the One who sent him.
Jesus is not the Father. Jesus said nobody has seen his Father's figure and heard his voice John5:37.

Janosky:
Trinity worshipper, the Nutarious notorious liar.

Jehovah's abode is in heaven where only spirits reside. Psalms 11:4.
Soul is flesh and blood, oh lying Pharisee.

** The God of Jesus anointed Jesus ,Heb1:10, Notorious liar say God dey anoint himself.
"God is your throne forever" says Psalms 45:6( RSV, JB, NWT) and Heb1:8 quoted from Psalms 45:6., the repetition MUST NOT change in Heb1:8.
You are here promoting a popular Fraud.
In Psalms 110:1 " Jehovah said to my Lord " is David's expression .
Nutarious notorious Pharisee turning Psalms 110:1 upside down ...

shadeyinka:
Pretender!
Your false humility is plain to see..it's just a matter of going back a few post.

Acting Pius is just an act it's not the real you. You can't fool everyone all the time.

shadeyinka:
But you have shamelessly judged a daughter of Abraham by what you claimed happened in her past. Even though you want your own past to remain in the past. Here what Jesus said about your kind of behaviour:

Mat 7:12:
"Therefore all things whatever you would that men should do to you, do you even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets."




Your brainwash is complete: Christ replaced by a "GROUP"!

Maximus69:
Why not attend to the questions stemming from the admonition given to Christians in the Bible, instead of just calling the one asking names?
If your brother in the lord can't address the issue and you know how to do so, please feel free to speak for yourself it's a FREE world Ma!

Perhaps you want to know somethings about me in order to question my lifestyle.
*Former military intelligence officer now a JW.
*Married to an halfcast with three children.
*Two of my children are studying with JWs while one is NOT interested but just attending meeting out of curiosity.
*My wife had been studying with JWs in France before i met her so she got baptised before me five years ago.
*Though in my late forties, we are like love birds everywhere we go.
*My wife is into MLM so i joined her after retiring from the military.
*Got a grand son five who looks just like me, but i'm working tirelessly to erase the lion attitude i had before i became a JW from the little lad!

Please feel free to discuss on the PRIVATE life of your ROBOT friend and if you still have further questions regarding this i'll be obliged to tell you more!

Maximus69:
You see your problem?
Wrong application!

First of all she is female not male therefore she can't be a brother but sister, secondly she's not a JW so she is not even close to being my sister or brother.

I simply quoted words from the book she claims to understand for her. After all she's speaking as a judge between you and i as if she knew the book upon which we're both debating, i just made her see that she's got a huge BEAM in her eyes so she's not even in a good condition to see any mote in another person's eye!

That's the correct application of the scripture you're trying to quote, no wonder you can't vouch for your church as you're fully aware that they lack practical application of the scriptures!

My friend, humble yourself to learn from us, we will teach you without cost. Life's water is FREE! Revelations 22:17

Maximus69:
Just TWO questions based on the commands of the foundation of Christianity.
(1) Marry only in the Lord { 1Corinthians 7:39} but your sister married an Athesist{those that vehemently debunk the existence of God}
(2) Christian women are to be silent during doctrinal issues { 1Timothy 2:12} she ought to ask her husband {that is a Christian whereas she married an atheist} 1Corinthians 14:35

She even have the impetus to start insulting those who are obedient to the word, calling then ROBOTS! 1Peter 4:4

Yet you can't tell her to be watchful of her manners, but with two questions based on the commands from the Bible to help her know she's SINNING AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT{Luke 12:10} by stubbornly ignoring clear admonition from the Apostles, you're there trying to find faults.
Of course BY THEIR FRUIT YOU WILL RECOGNISE men of lawlessness, i'm sure she is a fruit of your DEAD Churches ! Matthew 7:20
Tell her that she is EQUAL all other women the Bible gave those instructions, unless you're a worker of INIQUITY! Matthew 7:23

shadeyinka:
You can see your life outside!
Does it look like I was explaining the Scriptures to you.
I said " ...you are simply doing your father's work."
And I gave you an instance of his work with emphasis on accusing the brethren!

I see! It didn't tally with what you have been programmed with.

You have all the fault here:
1. You knew that she was female (she didn't hide it in her Monika)
2. You even knew some personal things about her (which most of us don't even know)
3. You could have ignored her (and you would have had no blame) but you didn't.
4. When the "easy walkover" was too much for you intellectually and Spiritually, it was then you remembered to character assassinate!

She ( nutarious ) got under your skin with both Scriptures and Logic and instead of learning from her, the best you could do was to change the topic as you always do by throwing tantrums over an entirely different unrelated issue.



For the third time:
You remember what you did to Candice Conti? And you come here on NL forming a non existent HOLINESS!

I know you will avoid it again: hypocrite!

Maximus69:
Dear Pastress Mummy GO, The TRUTH will surely bear FRUITS worthy of praise Ma!

So your life as a lousy and saucy wife of an atheist is a typical evidence that you're no doubt in the truth!
More grease to your elbow Ma!

Maximus69:
Dear Pastress Mummy GO, The TRUTH will surely bear FRUITS worthy of praise Ma!

So your life as a lousy and saucy wife of an atheist is a typical evidence that you're no doubt in the truth!
More grease to your elbow Ma!