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Yet again, the second consecutive world cup finals feautured european countries. Correct me if I am wrong but there had been no world cup final without the europeans. Why do europeans have more countries in the tournament than other continents? Surely some of their places could be given to african countries. African countries like Angola, Egypt, Tunisia, Gabon, Zimbabwe, Senegal, Togo, Benin, and Zambia are surely better than the european teams of Slovenia, Serbia, Greece, Switzerland, Slovakia and England. If we expect an african nation to win the world cup, we must address these issues. Also, I also fail to notice any black coach during the tournament.

weblessyou:
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Ile Ejo ni o

weblessyou:
Bi ewe ba pe lara ose, E pari e e, a di ose
San la n rin , E pari e

Eye to ba fara wegun , E pari e Eyin aaro lo ma sun

To ro ni ona na to lo si, E pari ee ase yori

Bi onirese o ba vin gba mo, E pari ee

Ba mi na omo mi, Epari ee ko de inu olomo

Tomorrow is the judgement day. Will it turn out to be a day the (super) chikens come home to roast? That will be one hell of a party. I fancy my roated chiken with korea(curry) . A bottle of Lager-Beer would not go a miss.

Forget the fact that Samuel Etoo and Cameroon is out of the world cup. Is Etoo the first and only player to retain a Champions league? I mean is he the only one to win it two consecutive years having won it in 2009 and 2010?

iice:
[color=#9900ff]What happened to your pure water selling wife. . .the one you ditched after dumping the successful woman [/color]

I admire your memory. You see that story about the pure seller wife happened to my friend. I am fed up of people not bold enough to say something happened to them. So I decided to be different and opposite.

KnowAll:
[size=14pt]You are an idi*t the lady has beaten u hands down in the argument accept it, rather u chose the inglorius comfort of outlandish male chauvenistic inuendo's  u are intellectually inept and a juvenile who should be banned from forums where mature minds operate. 

You were holding your own in the argument until u came out with that rude and unpalatable remark against her womanhood, she did well blowing your spoof wide open especially on those 2 Nigerian players, next time do your home work well b4 coming online and start yarning dust. [/size]

You are a stupid low life. Contribute positively to the topic or get lost.

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AngieFan:
Please!  Don't worry I will find a woman for you to fulfil your fantasy in the meantime find a blow up doll to take out your frustrations on.   .   .lol! 

Why should you deprive yourself of the joy of "punishment" by passing another woman to me? I will be gentle, I promise.

What about me that is looking for a wife?. I am 32, educated and handsome. Any interested single woman can contact me on obodo999@yahoo.co.uk

abrahym:
That the only opportunity they have to shine,since their fatherland no appreciate them

Same old and tired argument. All these "french" players were called by their motherlands but they refused. Viera and Zidane spring to mind. Did you not realise that Drogba, Eboue. Toures brothers, Kalou, Assoue-Ekotto of Cameroon and others have all French Citizenship but did not play for france. Our own Etuhu and Shittu were born in England. They never live in Nigeria but still play for Super Eagles. But some fools like Mrs AngieFan still called them English.

AngieFan:
I have tried to be patient with you but I have to say this: You are an !diot!

I was referring to the Black English Players who are all born in England who are English because of their birthplace and are considered such by FIFA, an official organisation. As you are not a Black player in the English team why on earth did you think I was referring to you 

In a nutshell! However English is hardly an ethnic group nowadays as everyone in England today has blood from elsewhere. The Royal family is a prime example of this and David Cameron who comes from a prominent Scottish clan.

Can you give me an opportunity so that you can call me an "idiot" to my face. The last woman that tried that, her Womanliness took the punishment. She was unable to walk properly for a week.

Kilonso:
Well, if you ask for my opinion, I think world class player's make world class team, even if not I all most or in all cases.

Don't confuse yourself. It is either world class players making world class team or NOT.

Sagamite:
Is this how they taught you in school? Just shout rubbish and throw wide conjectures?

I asked you very simple questions:

So which teams do you classify as world class?

what makes them world class and England not?

Show some intelligence and answer and don't just shout "Rubbish. You need to know that world class players does NOT make a world class team".

If you don't know how to identify a good team not to talk of a world class, then you are not support to be posting in this section.

Sagamite:
A team that has at least 6 world class players is not world class?

So which teams do you classify as world class?

what makes them world class and England not?


Not really, it is in Englands hands. It is not in Nigeria's hand.

England just needs to win, Nigeria needs Argentina to win for them.

Rubbish. You need to know that world class players does NOT make a world class team. Anyway, it is of your opinion that england players are "world class". I assume you live in England or you watch premier league and you can only admire what you see all the time.

Don't worry, Argentina will defeat Greece. I am not sure about your "world class" england beating Slovenia.

sage:
Are Walcott, Lenon, Ferdinand, Brown and Cole English?

If not what are they then?

I can confirm these playes are English because at least they have an English blood with them. As for me, I have no drop of English in me.javascript:void(0);javascript:void(0);javascript:void(0);javascript:void(0);javascript:void(0);

AngieFan:
I brought up the FIFA rules because we were discussing football.

I never referred to you as English and so your annoyance is unjustified.

In the UK you are encouraged to state your race on application forms but the last time I checked 'English' was not a race

With those things out of the way, I understand your view but please understand that others don't see things from your perspective. You were born in England but your upbringing (which I assume was in Nigeria) and outlook is very much Nigerian and so you consider yourself one. However that is a vastly different view from a another individual who was also born in England to Nigerian parents and who also spent all their life in England, surrounded by English culture, food, people, educated wholly in England etc.

You have a right to identify yourself how you want but neither you or anyone one else has the has the right to lambaste a Black person who refers to themselves as English because that is all they know and feel comfortable with.

Now you have corrected yourself because you made a general commet in your previous post: So all the black players in the English squad are English because they were born in England.

I do not know the reasons people on Nairaland always comparing Nigeria and Europe (precisely UK). They talk about Electricity if that is essential commodity of life. These spoilt and pampard people should be reminded that If NEPA or PHCN took refused to supply power for 3 months or longer, no one will die. Even people will be encouraged to come out ot their home and socialise, which is a good thing. But if there is no power in europe for 1 hour, you will be surprised how many people will shiver to death.
People also talk about Road accident as if it only a Nigerian problems. I know a lot of people who has been killed by Joyriders (unlicenced drivers) in England. One woman, who is always critical of Nigerian roads was killed in England when the Bus she was travelling on crashed. I know some people will say accidents are more common in Nigeria. But pray that whereever you are, GOD should protect you. It is of no consolation to you when you or your family are involved in a rare accident.
In my opinion, I still cherish Nigeria as no country is a heaven and I will hate it if Nigeria is as boring and lifeless as the UK. What do good people in the house think?

Sagamite:
So you now see that even world class players with world class coaches can struggle or lose to inferior teams?

Please do not make me angry by calling England a world class team.

obinna5000:
@jalether
England has 2 points after 2 matches and still has a chance of advancing to the next round. They were too over confident.
Nigeria has 0 points after 2 matches and chances of going to the next round are almost zero.

Are you thinking at all? Both Nigeria and England have almost the same chances of going through to next round if they win. A draw is no good to both of them.

obinna5000:
@~Sauron~
I hope they don't mess up against Slovenia. I hope they learned a valuable lesson today.

Stick to one team, your country

AngieFan:
Yes I understand your perspective but with all due respect those are not the views of everyone. The current football England 2010 squad is a testament of that. The FIFA rules are very clear. One must be a citizen of country in order to represent it at an international level. However. . .

So all the black players in the English squad are English because they were born in England.

http://www.englandfootballonline.com/TeamBack/Eligibiliy.html

This woman, you are still confused. Forget FIFA rules because it is artificial. If FIFA rule says you can play football with men, it does not make you a man. o.k. As I said earlier, Nationality is different from ethnic origin. I am a proud Nigerian man (yorubaman, to be precise) because both my parent hail from Nigeria. The fact that I was born in England does not change that fact. You are insulting me by saying I am english and that is why I am annoyed with you.
In the UK, you are encouraged to disclose your ethnic origin when making application for jobs, education benefits etc but you choose to ignore that fact though you said you live in UK.

This is an open debate. Does anyone know any player who is fatter than Danny Shittu, who is absolutely of no use.

styles2009:
Please let all Nigerians thinking we would go far in this competition read the comments above , you don't know nothing about football.

Can someone please tell me,why FAT YAK is still playing?

Never mind FAT YAK. What about FATTEST SHIT (U)

honeric01:
Come home where? they better just go to their foreign homes including that COMODO coach.

You beat me to that comment, That is the problem. Our players are all foreign based, so they have no pride in the country. They also have no idea of the effects football has on people back home. It is alright for them, they do NOT have to come back to hostile reception like the Italians do everytime they loose. Dis you notice how the italians fought not to lose against the paraguay the other night?

skfa1:
There are two things here, been British and Been English

You can be British via birth or nationalisation but you cant be English cause English people are the real people that originated from that land (England) even before the slave trade. This applies to other continents. Lets us face the fact.

Thanks for that. I hope Mrs AngieFan British is listening. Now we can get back to the main discussion.

dayokanu:
In this world cup, England, Switzerland and Greece have foreign coaches, So we can say they have inferiority complexes too.

In the recent past, Turkey, Russia, Korea, Japan, Portugal, Australia all had foreign coaches

YES, they have inferiority complexes too.  Unlike Greece, these countries are not exactly world beaters, are they?

AngieFan:
As I said it has not been my experience and I have lived in England all my life. I have personally seen plenty of praise for Hesky, Ferdinand and Barnes on English football boards.

Besides if these players were not 'English' then they wouldn't qualify to play for England and be English players would they? Please note that there is no British team. What we have are Welsh, English, Scottish and Northern Irish teams and to qualify to play in each of those teams one must be English, Scottish or Welsh etc by either ancestry or birthplace to play. British naturalized citizens can't qualify to play because as I said there is no British football team. A prime example of this would be Ryan Giggs who is mixed race and born in Britain but who doesn't qualify to play for England because he was born in Wales, is therefore Welsh and so plays for the Welsh team.



How is it a 'brain drain'? Were the players born, raised and trained to a professional level in an African country

Welldone Mrs British. Do you want a medal for living in the UK all your life? Listen, I do NOT care about Britain or British. My post is about French players if you can read english before you hijack it. Also if you can find any link of praises for Heskey here, you can post it here. I was born in England but that does not make me english because I know my origin and heritage. You are talking about English as a nationality and that is where you got it confused with heritage.

no1madman:
Not dis team. .they don't have what it takes. .

Never underestimate a wounded lion. Now that noboby is expecting anything from the Super Eagles, they can now relax and play their normal game now the pressure is off. Remember, when your back is against the wall,

You read it here first

Seun:
Isn't this a good thing? It shows that blacks are capable of some things.

Seun, It is called a brain drain, stealing another person resources. It is a BAD thing.

AngieFan:
That hasn't been my experience. The white people who think that way are normally racist BNP types and I don't pay them any attention.

It is not only BNP that are racist. "normal" english people are proud of their origin. Listen carefully to their derogatory comments about Heskey compared to Rooney, who was absolutely useless against USA. I could go as back as Barnes/Lineker, Shearer/Les ferdinand. English don't praise Black sportspeople only their own. If you are not "english", you are nothing no matter how you tried.

lizzybabe1:
Not only France. How many black players are in England squad? I think I counted five in the last starting lineup against USA. That's an awful lot for the "English" team. Even Brazil.

I can forgive england in that Ashley Cole and Aaron Lennon are of mixed race. I mean at least they have english blood in them. But black players in France team are Africans and they are about 85% of them in the squad.

JIY:
Fair enough, and thanks.

Do you think though that we deserve to qualify?

You know in football, best team doesn't always win. Greece themselves won Euro 2004 playing scrappy football but got lucky. With less pressure and in the second round, the super eagles may play better knowing that nobody is expecting anything from them.

I thought France is in Europe, a continent of white people. You would not have thought so if you have just landed from another planet. Eight black players out of eleven started for France today against Mexico. Don't white french boys play football?. The french are stealing players from Africa. What do good people in the house think?

I love your report on the game but I will like to correct you on one point you raised : All Greece need to do now to qualify for the second round is to avoid a heavy defeat from Argentina and hope for a Nigerian victory over South Korea by a single goal.


This is wrong. Even a goal defeat for Greece will put them on 3 points and -2. And a goal victory for Nigeria will put us on 3 points and -1. TThen south korea will be on 3 points and -2. SO NIGERIA WILL QUALIFY

This is not a joke. Nigeria will beat the South Koreans 1-0 in the last game of the group and the Greeks will loose to Argentines (Remember Argentina need to get something against Greece and they will not relax). You never know in football and to think Nigeria is still in with a chance after loosing the first two games is a miracle in itself. This means GOD has a mission for us to do something in South Africa. KEEP FAITH.