₦airaland Forum

Please Igbo people in the house. Is the guy a fraud or not?

That is the question.

I want to stop peddling the guy as
a success story before I set myself up for unnecessary embarrassment.

Fergie is inviting all comers. Don't think I have ever had him admit so publicly a player wants to leave.

This is a great building, painfully restored only recently.

The style is very evocative of the colonial era.  Love it

Kobojunkie:
FUnny how no one really answered the question. All we mostly did was stay clear of answering the question by injecting our personal opinions that don't even line up with actual responsibilities of Government or facts that pertain to the state in this.

o ga oo. . .don't know how clearly one will address the question. Lagos State government is building roads and upgrading the transport system and the thrust of my arguments all through is this helps the poor.

That's why I hate this little teams. West Brom had so many opportunities to score a third, but I don't know if it is fear or juju, they just seem to not have a clue when it comes to Old Trafford.

I always thought the Nigerian House of the future should borrow a lot more from the past.

I am no architect, but I think it would be really cool to have a modern rendition of those muddy houses with the thatched roofs. They kept cool during the day and warm at night.

While that might not be practical, on some architectural show about buildings in Africa a while back, I saw the most remarkable building in Ghana. It was at once modern yet fit right into the spirit of the tropics. Shaded by a tropical tree, it was conventionally shaped (read: simple), and it gave the impression of space not the claustrophobia these Nigerian buildings induce. Like a large rectangle floating on a smaller square. Absolutely delightful

I wish I could get pictures. . .

Lol . . .Where in my statement did I even suggest people would not be poor with the building of a road?

All I suggested was more people benefit from building a road than from building houses if the choice has to be made.

More opportunities and greater help come with the access provided by good transport links and access than with building a house.

I am very eager to see what you will counter with now. . . .What ''outlandish'' statement will you extract from the above?

Part of the costs of goods and services, is tied to the high cost of getting these goods and people providing services from one place to another. Easing the free flow of goods and services brings about a reduction in the prices.

And the point I have been trying to make ever since, is the building of one road in lieu of building a high rise tower, is that the whole population of Lagos benefits from that one road while only the residents of that apartment building do.

So if the government builds roads and develops transport links, it isn't helping the poor?

@kobojunkie

Well. . . .food is a basic necessity, and some people go without as a sacrifice
for other kind of wants, often because what they make sacrifices for serves
them better.

And others decide they want to eat rather than make that sacrifice.

Either way, one of these ''basic wants'' you alluded to has become a luxury.

No one is denying that having a roof over your head is desirable. But this is a
case where the government has to make sacrifices.

Even in Africa, juju can't be used to conjure money in the air to satisfy all wants at
thesame time.

Kobojunkie:
Housing is defined as a basic necessity by most all government agencies out there. Your opinion is just that then, yours and not even shared by government agencies out there, both Nigerian and none.

Here is something from a report put together by a Nigerian( I believe)

lol. . I never pretended it was nothing else but my opinion.

And oh well. . .its a shame I am not an agency of some kind. Then
my opinion will carry some heft. Oh well.

Its a luxury in terms of the government's finances. It has significantly more
important priorities.

And it is an opinion. Obviously, your opinion on the matter differs.

What outlandish claims might this be?

i don't understand.

You need concrete facts to prove that Lagos suffers from a severe transport deficit that has critically hampered the city's competitiveness?

I think I have addressed your questions actually.

I don't think the government should bother itself with
Housing at this point in time. NOT AT ALL

And it benefits a far greater number if the Government
perpetually spends it funds on Public Transport and Roads,
than if it spent them on Housing.

I hope that is clear enough.

Lol. . . Just off my head I reckon Lagos alone would need at least one million units of housing.

Even if the state government were to use its whole budget, it still wouldn't make any dent
in the housing shortfall, and considering the projections on the population growth rate, the
government would be building houses for a long time to come.

Roads, public transport and the power benefit everyone.

I mean, come on, you are a smart fellow.

Kobojunkie. . . there are scarce resources, and the government has to choose
between giving people houses that will only conceal their idleness or infrastructure
that would eventually keep these people occupied.

In a world where the government was flush with cash, then by all means it can
attend to the housing, but till then, it only makes sense to get people moving.

Black hole in the sense that it will simply keep consuming money.

Majority of the population that have no housing are that way because they
don't have any money and they don't have any money because they have no
jobs.

So obviously, you need to create opportunities where people can have money
to afford housing which you might choose to build or not build.

These people have a better chance to improve their lives much more swiftly
with better access for people, goods and services.

Kobojunkie:
The government is ACTUALLY ALREADY involved in providing housing, even in its present financial state. . .  From what you have above, we can conclude then that the government is short-sighted for considering that an issue of importance, even at this time, right?

In a country where there is a great need for housing( I believe the estimate was for at least 100's of thousands more units or something like that), I would not think it short-sighted for any government to decide to consider the needs of the people, as pertains housing. States like Enugu are leading the way in the effort to provide housing for it's citizens, I am not certain why anyone would consider it short-sighted for any other government in the same country to pursue any efforts to help ease the problem.

It is indeed shortsighted and silly. . . .

Housing is a black hole for funds, a luxury in a city that
has far more pressing issues.

Ajanlekoko has provided an adequate answer. . .

That the government should provide housing in its present financial state
is not only shortsighted but stupid as well.

A better critique of the Fashola government would centre around their failure
to tackle the traffic gridlock that still chokes the state, slow pace
in providing infrastructure and the cost of running the government.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=284766.msg4038395#msg4038395 date=1245174396]I can lend you a piece of strong rope to aid your suicide!!!
If you are going to die because people said you are ugly, please do it quick.
Make a live stream and letz watch your passage to HELL.[/quote]You are a true Omobaba. . .and long may you give us moments of jest.

ThiefOfHearts:
No. The same Ghanaians that claimed to be nigerians in the 70s/early 80s are now laughing at you.

Considering we are discussing the negative stereotyping of Nigerians, I think the clip in your profile will soon have them calling us insensitive, . . .what, with the recent death of Mike Tyson's daughter. It is just not right nor funny.

Please Please Please remove it.

In fact I will endure your picture in its place.

That is son is ugly o. . .He looks like a black Albert Einstein.

its Ocho Cinco y'all.

Cincy on the way to the playoffs. . . . .

Haters can lick my granny's wrinkled IDI

ocho cinco baby please say the cinco

tRoOE:
[size=13pt]hehehehe what a slowpoke you are, is that the best you can do, by copying and pasting , you got that line from this http://www.lotsofjokes.com/youre_ugly.asp mumu
I knew you had no common sense up there,omo be original

And your ugliness can break the mirror [/size]

See this love child of OBJ and Madam Etteh

Begone,  . . , . . . .you Shrekette

You knw what Tpia

You put ur picture right here, I put mine

We see who has got the African Essence

And pls don't speak pidgin to me, I find it so uncouth

tRoOE:
idiot your face reminds me of a discomposed body

Lady. . .If ugliness was a crime you would get the electric chair

Now look at that Udoka brother

He Lucky he got some American in him

or else he'd be looking like that Osuofia bloke that
is a star in your country

tRoOE:
[size=13pt]OMG how can seun unban this goat [/size]

[size=13pt]Why do I have this feeling that the girl at the right hand side is you [/size]

with a face like yours. . . . . the world is guaranteed a nightmare.

tpia:
@ bolded: oh really?

don't make me get on your case and offend other people here.

I am a fine boy no goose pimples missy

Ain't nuffiing embarassing this sweet looking brother

You diggggggg. . . .My Swahili Sista

How we gonna knw if you qualify to be a babe
if we don't see a picture