Abraham never had any "mosaic law" during his time yet to gave his one-tenth (even for his unborn descendants). Abraham worked with divine revelation.
Jacob didn't have any "Jewish tradition" or "laws of moses" during his time too. He gave his one-tenth. It want a law then. It was by divine revelation.
The Igbos in the South east are the ones doing this attachment by force all over social media. I have never seen any SS person propagating this so called SE/SS oneness. Our people should look for their lost shame and pride please
We are brothers to those in Niger Delta who agree that they are igbos and that they are our brothers. The rest of them in niger delta are not our brothers, they are just our neighbours. Forget about the silly claims that Nnamdi Kanu was making. God punish him.
We have been making great progress and successes in life by God's grace as igbos, without any silly niger delta attachment. We are very okay with the way God is helping us. Pls Keep your Niger Delta whatever to yourself. Thank you.
When we say go to school, you won't.
KANU didn't force other minorities into Biafra...these minorities had representations in his ipob movement. They wanted a referendum that would decide if they want to be included or not.
Jesus did not condemn the Pharisees for collecting tithes because they (the Pharisees) are under the law and are Levites hence are mandated to collect tithe (according to the law)
Our pastors in Nigeria are not Levites, this is why Jesus himself didn't collect tithe even though he is 'our high priest'. H is not a Levite he is from Judah
You must understand that Judaism is different from Christianity. The laws of the old testament apply to Jews, the laws of Christians are written in their hearts.
Finally one doesn't get cursed for not paying tithe. That curse in Malachi is 'under the law'. Jesus has redeemed us from the curse of the law.
Tithing was NEVER under the "curse of the law", it even predated the mosaic law, and since jesus had come to fulfill (not abolish) the law, it is the more reason WHY tithing should be done in him and his name alone. Tithing is no longer bound by law, it is practised by the grace of divine revelation.
Secondly Romans 2:28-29 shows us who the REAL JEWS are in the new testament. These Jews will defintely have the fivefold ministry that ministers the things of God to them. Ephesians 4:11-12.
wayne50: open your eyes, look around you. daddy freeze is saying the absolute truth. Pastors do not care about your well being these days. Firstly, the church is deviating from its purpose which is suppose to be salvation not prosperity, but instead these pastors choose to lay emphasis on prosperity in order to get more people in the church which is very wrong Secondly, i do not have an opinion on tithing. so i dont think its wrong to pay tithe. if you want to pay tithe its your choice, but my problem is that the pastors has tied it to your prosperity. they have brainwashed you into thinking that without payin tithe to them you wont prosper. even saying its a curse. why the hell are you all this gullible. Well the real idea is "Give and it shall be giving unto you" if you have the habit of giving you will prosper. Jesus said God has provided everything we need, he did not say he will provide. all you have to do is come to him, simple. Thirdly, looking at it from the economic point of view, how many churches do we have in this country for christ sake. just imagine if we had that number of industries. unemployment would be non existent. You can imagine how much these churches are making monthly with the tithe and offering thing. how much tax are they paying? you think its a coincidence that we have a good number of nigerian pastors on the forbes richest pastor list. how can one pastor have 4 private jets for christ sake. Nigerians are suffering. God. there is a lot to say but cant remember ryt now. lastly, i belive the most powerful sentence jesus made in the bible is the part where he said "people would perish due to lack of knowledge". Goodnyt
Daddy freeze should come straight.
Is he against tithing as a religious practice? Or is he against selfish and materialistic ministers?
I have responses for any of these positions stated.
obailala: There we go again, "personal revelation" and not necessarily from scriptures!
The church needs funds for its operations and encouraging tithing is one very effective way to secure funds for day to day operations. But where there is a problem is in the teaching that a person who doesn't pay tithes regularly to his local church would incur God's wrath and attract divine curses; therein lies the problem, and this sort of teaching is exactly what Christ condemned when he scolded the Pharisees for holding on to unimportant laws.
Are you aware that a majority of people who tithe religiously today do so out of the fear of possible divine consequences, and not out of a loving desire to give freely? Simply put, such teachings about divine punishment to non-tithers is WRONG! cos it negates the scriptures in 2Cor 9:7 which admonishes us to give without compulsion, and you cannot tell me that the 'Spirit' gives you a revelation which opposes scripture. The moment a person gives out of 'fear of retribution, that is no longer 'cheerful giving' no matter how the person forces a smile on their face. Yes the church needs money for its operations, and of course, there is always a blessing that comes with giving, but what exactly are most churches preaching today to get members to give?... Are they preaching scripture or are they preaching heresy?
Your first statement is totally out of place. "Not necessarily from the scriptures...." is your own input not mine.
Every revelation from God cannot CONTRADICT the word of God....it can't. Rather it AMPLIFIES it.
That said, I don't support how tithe sermons are been presented by many church ministers today. Am against blackmailing or subtly threatening those who don't pay their tithes. There are ministers who don't do such thing. I have seen them. They are not popular ministers, but they are indeed honorable vessels of God being used for divine exploits.
A number of today's tithers know that the popular Malachi portion usually refered to was pointing to what the Mosaic Law specified about tithing. In fact, Malachi chapter 4:4 refered them to the Law of Moses.
Knowing that the Law was CLEAR ON what and how of tithing and that today's tithing does follow that prescribed by the Law these tithers, in seeking justification for their tithing, then run to Abraham's incident and Jacob's.
NONE of these two examples say that if you tithe you'll be blessed or spared some negative happenings in life or death. That is what I'm saying.
A Christian should give to God IN APPRECIATION of what God HAS DONE for him in Christ and NOT as a bargaining chip for some perceived future blessings.
A christian should give NOT only for appreciation but also for SERVICE. The ministry must be sponsored. Welfare of ministers, ministry projects must be sponsored and tithing takes care of that.
Any atheist, moslem,etc can give to the needy, but who will take care of God's project like his or her own project? is it the non believers? Or members of the household of faith?
I get it. Many ministers are abusing this privilege of receiving tithe, but abuse of tithing does not take away its validity.
Israel had SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS on how to tithe. Abraham must have been CLEAR on why he paid tithe.
Today's tithers NEITHER follow EXACTLY what Israel did nor what Abraham did.
So, on what CLEAR and very SPECIFIC DIRECTIVE are today's tithers practicing there money-for-financial-reward and escape from hell MONETARY TITHING?
Majority of today's tithers are NOT doing it IN RESPONSE to or IN APPRECIATION of God's grace.
Abraham gave a tenth of the PLUNDER after Melchizedek blessed him, not before.
Jacob promised to give God a tenth only after he would have received what he asked of God.
Today's tithers pay tithes SO AS TO GET from God.
Do any of these two examples - Abraham & Jacob - you guys run to to justify your monetary tithing today line up with what you do today? NO! None of them does.
You cannot twist the arms of the SOVEREIGN GOD. Otherwise you've made him human.
You cannot choose how you want to RELATE with him: He decides how.
He has CLEARLY said that IN TIME PAST and IN DIVERSE ways had related with man BUT in these last days he has chosen to do so through the Son whose NEW COVENANT SUPERSEDES anything before it - whether pre-law or under the Law.
If today you hear his VOICE and still harden your heart to INSIST on running under the New Covenant in your own way rather than in God's way then the end result has been clearly spelt out for you.
So going by your analogy, you are saying you must bargain before giving tithe to God? Or God must first bless you before you bless him?
If you are a man truly after Gods own heart, you won't wait for him to bless you first.
First of all the word tithe is misunderstood in this context it means 10% that is all that it means just as the word half means 50% . It has no religious connotation. It is just "settlement" for being present or witnessing the dividing of spoils. It has nothing to do with love of God. If you read the full story from chapter 13
That was more related to the custom of sharing spoils or booty
It is worth reading the entire story of what happened .
Abraham's relative was plundered by some kings and e and his men went and recovered their goods,defeated the kings and then plundered the in return.The plunder that was taken was shared and it is worth noting that Abraham DID NOT KEEP ANYTHING for himself as was his right but allowed the fighting men to share everything and he gave 10% to the priest who happened to come around at that moment.He was not tithing the work of his hands or booty which he even took a share from.
The context in which the word tithe is used today is as a verb but it was no different from the way cigarette smokers would say "50 me" i.e give me half
Tithe which means "a tenth" had a religious connotation when Abraham and Jacob tithed. Abraham even paid for "his loins" unborn.
You are quite right, Abraham wasnt a Jew, and that explains why Abraham never paid a 'mandatory' tithe as was prescribed in the Law; Abraham only paid out of his love and appreciation for God for giving him victory in battle and it is on record that he paid just once. True or False?
Jacob also wasnt a Jew so he never was under any compulsion or order such as the Mosaic Law to pay a tenth regularly. Jacob made a vow at Bethel promising God to give a tenth of his earnings if God saved him from calamity. True or False?
The circumstances and the system of tithing paid by Abraham and Jacob were certainly not like the mandatory requirements of the Mosaic Law.
The Law of mandatory tithing which is preached in mordern day churches definitely has its basis from the Mosaic Laws given to the Jews. So my question is, are we, Gentile Christians (or Nigerian Christians) under the Mosaic laws which Jesus Christ has already downplayed and ended with his sacrifice?.. Are we still under the Mosaic laws?.... Scriptural backing would be useful in your answers; you can ask your pastor, but please dont just accept the empty answer that "it is a revelation"
I know my scripture. Am a "berean" Christian.
That said, you can't hold on permanently to anything if you don't receive it by revelation, believe me.
I don't condemn those who don't tithe for reasons best known to them, but I also know the tithing can ignite spiritual abundance, not necessarily material excesses/blessings.
obailala: No its not about it being a thing of ease or not, it's about preaching the truth!
Of course the church needs the money from tithes for its operation and then again, there's always a blessing that comes with giving. So yes, it's a good thing to give tithes, but the problem lies in the mordern day teaching that paying 10% of your income to a church is a MANDATORY requirement to be in God's good books. From my understanding of the scripture, that is complete heresy, and that's exactly the sort of teaching Christ scolded the pharisees for everyday.
Jesus Christ's teachings made it clear that those Mosaic laws were not important, he scolded the Pharisees for holding on tightly to unimportant teachings (specifically mentionted tithe payments); he also demonstrated the unimportance of most of the old laws by healing a person on a sabbath day to dismay of the Pharisees (who were the highest custodians of the Law). Today I really dont see how preachers who threaten Christians with God's wrath if they dont part with 10% are different from those Pharisees that Jesus scolded.
And finally, tithing was a Jewish tradition, it was never commanded to the Gentile church following the Pentecost (I may be wrong but scriptural references to the contrary would help). The only principle of giving preached by the apostles to the gentile church is conveyed in 2Cor 9:7. I may be wrong again, but it would really be worthwile if someone could just prove me wrong with scriptures and not 'personal revelations'.
The scripture is there for all to feed from. Tithing NEVER began as a Jewish tradition. It began by revelation, yes, revelation. And there is no way understanding of a spiritual principle will come without divine revelation. You can't wish it away. Don't do anything you are NOT led by divine revelation to do my brother. Revelation is key.
DO YOU KNOW my brother that POLYGAMY was NEVER at any condemned in the Bible? But as we read the bible, it is the SPIRIT that gives life, not LETTERS (Bible quotations or wordings) as seen in 2 Cor 3:3-6. So by that we know that polygamy is not scriptural.
There are things that require spiritual depth for us to sufficiently understand. Tithing is one of them.
You are quite right, Abraham wasnt a Jew, and that explains why Abraham never paid a 'mandatory' tithe as was prescribed in the Law; Abraham only paid out of his love and appreciation for God for giving him victory in battle and it is on record that he paid just once. True or False?
Jacob also wasnt a Jew so he never was under any compulsion or order such as the Mosaic Law to pay a tenth regularly. Jacob made a vow at Bethel promising God to give a tenth of his earnings if God saved him from calamity. True or False?
The circumstances and the system of tithing paid by Abraham and Jacob were certainly not like the mandatory requirements of the Mosaic Law.
The Law of mandatory tithing which is preached in mordern day churches definitely has its basis from the Mosaic Laws given to the Jews. So my question is, are we Gentile Christians (or Nigerian Christians) under the Mosaic laws?
Tithing under the new testament is NOT AND NEVER mandatory (because we are no longer under a schoolmaster i.e the mosaic law) as it has nothing to do with our salvation or eternal destination, but it is OBLIGATORY FOR divine abundance.... which is beyond material blessings. God dosent force it on anyone, but if you understand divine abundance you will key into it whenever you are able to.
I really don't know what your grouse is. Is it about materialistic and selfish mordern day church ministers, or about the scriptural legitimacy of tithing?
Secondly, I have followed your "crusade" and have observed that you belong to either of these two groups:
1. Those who are aggrieved and feeling exploited by materialistic and selfish pastors.
2. Those carnal ones who just despise the idea of giving their one-tenth to ministeries where one benefits from spiritually.
If you really want to understand tithing, why not go to church and ask the church ministers rather than openly mocking those that tithe as well as ministeries preach tithing?
Do you think you are acting with wisdom assuming you are sincere?
People tithe for different reasons with different understandings.
Tithing PREDATED the old testament. It predated the Jewish nation. Giving one-tenth (tithing) was done by Abraham of mesopotamia as well as Jacob (also later called Israel). These men had existed before the "Jewish tradition" existed.
Jesus never condemned or downplayed tithing. In fact, he validated it in Matthew 23:23 when he criticized the religious leaders of those times that they were supposed to pay attention not only to tithings but also to weightier issues like justice mercy, etc.
Daddy freeze I wish you were in nairaland. But if this notice gets to you, feel free to share your views.
Tithing is 100% scriptural and it still applies to the minsters of the REAL JEWS as seen in ROMANS 2:28-29.
obailala: Of course Jesus preached why those laws were not important; he healed on the sabbath and also scolded the Pharisees for holding onto laws that dudnt matter. Jesus Christ preached about what mattered most, which is love. And then again, tithing is a Jewish tradition, it was never commanded to non-Jewish believers. Apostle Paul explained the principles of giving under the new covenant to the non-jewish/gentile believers (which we all fall under today). And the principle preached by Paul was "giving freely, and without compulsion, whatever a man willeth in his heart." 2Cor 9:7
Saying a person must pay a specific amount (10%) in order to be in God's good books is complete heresy, that's the total opposite of what Jesus Christ preached and thats exactly what Jesus scolded the Phatisees for daily; it also totally negates the Holy Spirit inspired teachings in 2Cor 9:7.
My brother, tithing was NOT a Jewish tradition. Abraham was from mesopotamia, he paid tithes (even for his unborn descendants), Jacob also known as Israel has no "Jewish tradition" then, yet he paid tithes. the Jewish nation wasn't in existence when tithing began.
obailala: Seems like the only explanation present day proponents of the 'mandatory' law of tithing have is that it is a 'revelation'. Obviously there's no scriptural backing why non-Jewish (Gentile) Christians under the new covenant must abide by old Mosaic laws so the argument always ends in "it is a spiritual revelation"
Abtaham tithed and Jacob tithed, but both didnt tithe under any form of compulsion or any mandatory law as it is preached today; both men tithed only once in their lives by the way. Jacob made a vow to God promisimg to give a tenth of his earnings if God delivered him from calamity, he kept to his promise. Likewise Abraham who did so out of love for God, he wasnt under a bond to tithe.
Nobody is forcing anybody on tithing. But if you are sensitive to spiritual principles....tithing will be a thing of ease.
The Bible says many materialistic and selfish ministers shall arise.....that however, doesn't mean the sincere ones are not there who deserve to utilize the tithes for the furtherance of the gospel
From what I observe, there are two people opposing this tithing of a thing.
1. The aggrieved ones who feel they have been exploited by church ministers, particularly the selfish and materialistic ministers.
2. The carnal ones who just don't want to accept tithing.
That said... Tithing predates the mosaic law. It was done by divine revelation, not by any old testament law. So stop attaching tithing to the old testament laws.
hardasan: I just refuse to keep quiet while Christians are brainwashed by anybody.
I want to quote Malachi Ch 3 v 7 - 12 while highlighting verse 10
Malachi 3:7-12King James Version (KJV)
7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the Lord of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?
8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
11 And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the Lord of hosts.
12 And all nations shall call you blessed: for ye shall be a delightsome land, saith the Lord of hosts.
Here the bible plainly said in verse 8: " Yet ye have robbed me, But ye say where in. Have we robbed thee? " The bible answered : "In tithes and offerings"
Verse 9 says: Ye are cursed for ye have robbed me. It didn't say ye are cursed for not eating your tithe or ye are cursed for paying to a pastor and not into heaven's bank account directly from the earth.
Verse 10 gives a direct instruction: Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse. It didn't say eat ye all the tithes in front of the storehouse or give ye all the tithes to the poor and widows. In the biblical days, payments could be by precious stones or commodities. That's why trade by barter markets existed in the days of my grandparents before currencies became the order of the day. Now, 99.9% of people earn currencies not livestock or commodities, so it's normal that we pay tithe in cash.
Verse 11 is a promise by God to bless anyone who obeys this instruction of tithing
John ch 12 talks about Jesus being anointed for his burial with a very expensive ointment, Judas asked why the costly ointment wasn't sold and given to the poor instead of " wasting it" Jesus said in verse 8: For the poor always ye have with you ; but me ye have not always
Matthew ch 10 vs 40 - 41, Jesus promised to. Reward those who are kind or who gives as little as a cup of cold water to his servants
Ever wondered why Jesus picked out the widow in Mark ch 12 vs 42 for giving her all since he doesn't care about our offering ?
Or why the Holy Ghost killed Ananias and Sapphira for keeping part of the money gotten from the sales of their own land in Acts ch 5 vs 1 - 11 if God doesn't care about our tithes and offerings.
Take heed that no wolf in sheep's clothing deceives you. God commanded tithing and offerings. If you want to pay yours when you get to heaven, that's your business, but don't go about stumbling people Christ died for cus it will be better for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for you.
(Modification) Please try to read through the thread, a lot of questions have been answered which are not mentioned in this initial post. God bless the contributors and the sincere readers
My sister, Shalom to you.
A lot of carnal or perhaps aggrieved minds will not understand the legitimacy of tithing.
That said, let me add to what you have stated -
Tithing i.e giving a tenth of ones proceeds PREDATED the mosaic law. Abraham tithed (even for his unborn descendants) Genesis 14:20; Hebrew 7:2.
Jacob tithed too Genesis 28:20-22
So, its NOT something gotten from the law. It was done by revelation. So tithing should not be attached to the old testament (old covenant of the laws of moses)
In the new testament, Jesus didn't in any occasion condemn tithing. In fact, he validated it in Matthew 23:23 being that he criticized the religious leader for paying attention ONLY to tithes but not paying attention to more important issues like justice, mercy, etc.
It is true that many church ministers are preaching tithes out of selfish and materialistic purposes, it still doesn't invalidate the giving of tithes.
Tithing is a thing of principle guided by divine revelation. If you believe and key into it, it goes beyond giving you material blessings as seen in Malachi 3:10.
Your overall COP (chief operating pastorpreneur) said we will be permanent beggars if we don't pay tithe but Nigerians are the people begging for UAE visa, they don't bett us for Nigerian visa
Malachi 3:10 should not not and never be interpreted Materialistically.... "Opening the windows of heaven, pouring out abundant blessings" is not about materialism.
Jesus didn't condemn tithes, in fact, he validated it but criticized pharisees for neglecting the "weightier" issues that is, engendering justice, mercy and faith in their lives. (Matthew 23:23)
If all Christians are just like you.. i can understand why the tribulations spoke of in the Endtimes will have your intestines littered on bloody streets and your throats slit and left to bleed out. There will be genocidal murdering of Christians in the End-times.. be warned.. we are in the end times already so get your load prepared for Rapture
you mean this parochial chauvinistic tribalistic self glorifying Piece is coming from chinua achebe?
This man only ended up sowing this seed of grandiose delusion in his people.Agama lizard chestbeating and self-praise is in everyone of them blood!
There was nothing self seeking about that excerpt. Stop creating a storm out of a teacup. Don't DERAIL this thread. Those who knew Achebe very well knew his humility and simplicity was unquestionable.
Nigeria’s foremost novelist Chinua Achebe has claimed that Nigerians, especially of the Hausa/Fulani and the Yoruba stocks, do not like his Igbo ethnic group because of the southeast’s cultural advantage.
I have written in my small book entitled The Trouble with Nigeria that Nigerians will probably achieve consensus on no other matter than their common resentment of the Igbo,” he wrote under the heading, A History of Ethnic Tension and Resentment. He traced the origin of “the national resentment of the Igbo” to its culture that “gave the Igbo man an unquestioned advantage over his compatriots in securing credentials for advancement in Nigerian colonial society.
He observed that the Igbo culture’s emphasis on change, individualism and competitiveness gave his ethnic group an edge over the Hausa/Fulani man who was hindered by a “wary religion” and the Yoruba man who was hampered by” traditional hierarchies.
He therefore described the Igbo, who are predominantly Catholic, as “fearing no god or man, was “custom-made to grasp the opportunities, such as they were, of the white man’s dispensations. And the Igbo did so with both hand
He delved into history with his claim, asserting that the Igbo overcame the earlier Yoruba advantage within two decades earlier in the twentieth century.
“Although the Yoruba had a huge historical and geographical head start, the Igbo wiped out their handicap in one fantastic burst of energy in the twenty years between 1930 and 1950.”
He narrated the earlier advantage of Yoruba as contingent on their location on the coastline, but once the missionaries crossed the Niger, the Igbo took advantage of the opportunity and overtook the Yoruba.
The increase was so exponential in such a short time that within three short decades the Igbos had closed the gap and quickly moved ahead as the group with the highest literacy rate, the highest standard of living, and the greatest of citizens with postsecondary education in Nigeria,” he contended.
He said Nigerian leadership should have taken advantage of the gbo talent and this failure was partly responsible for the failure of the Nigerian state, explaining further that competitive individualism and the adventurous spirit of the Igbo was a boon Nigerian leaders failed to recognize and harness for modernization.
“Nigeria’s pathetic attempt to crush these idiosyncrasies rather than celebrate them is one of the fundamental reasons the country has not developed as it should and has emerged as a laughingstock,” he claimed.
Empty, shallow and ignorant is part of their DNA and it's not even limited to the ignorant and loud mouth Igbos on the internet, the whole spciety from top to bottom are exparts chest beaters.
Are these excerpts from achebe's book what you call chestbeating? You have not opened up on your real grouse with Achebe.
Every high achieving human being has a of bit of pride in him or her. Whether its Albert Einstein on Jewish ingenuity, kim Jin Un on the Asian superiority, or queen Elizabeth on British glory, or the Beatles on British rock, or obafemi awolowo on Yoruba cultural pride, or Ahmadu bello on Fulani conquest of northern Nigeria.....the list goes on and on and on....
So if you think an excerpt on Achebe's memoir defines Achebe as boastful, arrogant and self seeking, you are dead wrong. Don't DERAIL this thread.
If you this is your avenue of attacking Achebe or insulting his memory, then think again, because I will take you and all you represent to the cleaners. Its not a threat, its just an advice.
LasGidiOwner: You have Abia state horrible situation to tackle but you ignored it. Why is that Abia state people are cursed to ignore and neglect their state? Why? Tufia
Sadly, your mentor Chinua Achebe in his last book even though full of the same mindless and arrogant cheat beating you are negating in your thread also acknowledge the fact that his people are loud, overbearing and annoy other people with their crude and crass behavior.
I hope you've read the book.
Exactly! That's the point I have been making. I have a copy of the book on my shelf. It is on this basis that am tackling obiano and his praise singers.
However, Achebe has NO mindless arrogance and chestbeating. I just want you to correct that.
mabea: U can always say this but you forget to realise that the childish banter between you and that lasgidi guy is one of the reasons they claim that igbos are not in unity.
I thought you said you are not referring to all anambrarians, what happened to those comments.
I have no banter at all. When I try to correct something , one idiot from nowhere shouldn't come and display his idiocy. Put the lasgidi boy in his place and stop barking at the wrong tree. Its the lasgidi boy you should face NOT me. Am protecting the interest of ndigbo as a whole, anambra inclusive, so stop preaching to the choir.
Abia state has produced two notable sons (UKIWE and NDUBUISI KANU) who once governed LAGOS state, did you see or hear any abian making noise? Orji uzor kalu has learnt his lesson on how to accord host communities regardless of one's success, must obiano repeat the same stupid mistake?
LasGidiOwner: Dirty Aba bastard. Useless Ipob miscreant. I wonder why you were not killed when the military invaded Abia state
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Ntoor......
Lagos nwere ndi igbo shi na mba nke ndi Abia chiri we. Ndi okenye nnukwu-a di abuo. Ha-abuo shiche na mba nke ndi Abia, ma'iga-agahu ndi abia obula he me mpkotu.
Ndi okenye nnukwu-a bu:
1. Commodore EBITU UKIWE chiri Lagos na 1984/1985 tupu origho nelu ochichi nke obodo naijiria, bu osote-eze babangida.
2. Rear Admiral NDUBUISI KANU chiri Lagos na 1985/1986. Obu ya bu onye nochiri UKIWE na-ichi mba nke lagos.
Religion / Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by ofai: 11:44am On Nov 25, 2017 
