₦airaland Forum

sucess001:
Tinubu is 8 yrs older. Not a decade.

At least going by his official age

But we all know that a man that cannot carry his party's flag is more than 8 years older than OUK.

I expect Tinubu to be nearly 20 years older than OUK

First of all, Tinubu is more than a decade older than OUK.

And OUK is one of those Fulanized Igbos that want Igbos to consider him their leader, all to no avail.

No doubt from time to time, he backs policies that Igbos want, but he is mainly a Fulanised Igbo, that gave Fulani terrorists a huge expanse of land, as a hiding place for Fulanis causing havoc in Igboland.

kahal29:
I focused on that because his policy prescription to the Problem of Inflation in Nigeria would conflict with those other things he is saying. It is simple economics. In the first place what is contractionary monetary policy? This simply means increasing interest rate to reduce inflation which in turn reduces Investment and production of goods and services, kills businesses especially SME, creates unemployment, stifle economic growth and finally worsens the incidence of poverty.

However, Peter Obi talks so much about moving the economy from Consumption to Production and that can only happen by reducing interest rate which in turn increases investment and production, creates new businesses, jobs and employment which drives away poverty.

All the points you are raising are simply highlighting the fact that you have to look at his economic policies holistically. And you are obviously still prescribing the Tinubu economic blueprint which has destroyed the Nigerian economy. You cannot keep doing the same thing and be expecting different results.

Peter Obi is an employer of labour and I am 100% certain he is consulting with eggheads in economic strategies, before going public with his pronouncements.
When we have greats like Pat Utomi, Muoghalu and possibly Soludo and Iweala, looking at his economic strategies, and being alright with it, that's good enough for me.

Let me give you a practical example of what your criticism is like.
Let's imagine that someone is seriously injured and is brought to a hospital. The following course of action could be prescribed for him
1. Assign him a doctor
2. Clean his wound/injury
3. Use antiseptics to keep microbes at bay
4. To make it heal fast and prevent aggrevation of the injury, we cover it up with a plaster and bandage it.

You then come around and tell us that to make it heal fast, we need to do other things instead of covering it with a plaster and bandaging it.
But the real point is that all the points from 1 to 4 are necessary for the injury to heal fast. You have to consider everything as a whole. Don't just pick a point, and start giving us the downside to that point without first considering every point made, because they may have taken care of the concerns you have about point 4.

seunmsg:
The thread was opened by a Peter Obi obituarists to call out Tinubu for not campaigning with Buhari achievements. So, how’s Tinubu preoccupied with LP when all we did was to respond to the OP with the same logic behind the thread?

Why not answer my question and stop talking off point. Why is Peter Obi not campaigning with LP achievements in Ondo state?

LP's achievement in Ondo is far better than Tinubu's economic blueprint that has totally ruined the economy of the nation. LP in Ondo did not bring in a terrorist as their governor. LP in Ondo also did not cause the naira to crash. All these negative achievements have only been achieved by Tinubu

seunmsg:
Since LP has never won the presidency before, the right thing to do is to judge the party by its performance at the state level. Obi should be campaigning with the achievements of LP in Ondo state and not with fake China statistics.

But PDP has won the presidency before, so Tinubu should not be preoccupied by the ambitions of a so-called social media party.

Tinubu brought in a terrorist in 2015, and gave the economic blueprint that has impoverished the nation. He is the major cause of the suffering and terrorism that Nigerians are enduring.

Don't worry. I'm certain that once campaign starts, Obi's people will remind Nigerians that Tinubu's economic blueprint has been sustaining the Buhari government.

The people will be made to realise that their current suffering was initiated by Tinubu, who brought in a terrorist as a president, and handed him the economic blueprint that has impoverished the nation and put the nation at the mercy of terrorists

kahal29:
I only focused my attention on his policy proposal to the problem of Inflation in Nigeria. Others can take him up on some of the other policy prescriptions.

No, you have to take him on, on every economy point that he has ever made, including drastically cutting down on the cost of government.

Everything he has ever said with regards to boosting the economic health of the nation are inextricably interlinked.

You cannot just criticize one point in isolation, without taking the other points in consideration.

I'm sure he still has more economic policies to dish out as we head to the electioneering season.

I know in the past few weeks, he also talked about stopping the dollar jamboree of politicians who have no known means of earning dollars, to the detriment of investors and businessmen who are employers of labour, but are denied access to dollars needed to run their enterprises, thereby forcing millions of people to the unemployed queue, which inevitably leads to government being denied taxes from people forced out of employment. Vicious cycle.

The Bottom line is that Obi is head and shoulders above Atiku and Tinubu.

I will trust Obi to also increase power generation in Nigeria to boost business productivity and reduce expenses.
And he will bring in the best hands. Cronyism and nepotism will die down

Obinoscopy:
So what's currently trending in the political sphere is the diasporan funding for Peter Obi and it being against the electoral act (section 85, subsection a and b).

Prior to now, it has never been an issue as Nigerian politicians source their funds majorly from other means. Some through illegal diversion of State funds while others through funding from the oligarchs and super wealthy who have vested interests in the government. The money politicians get from Nigerians in the diapora has been very meagre. Perhaps that explains why it never trended in the past. But with the emergence of Peter Obi, the story has changed as it would seem the Diasporans are ready to bankroll the Peter Obi campaign immensely.

Now the issue is that the electoral act is against funding political parties from abroad. So what that means is that the Labor Party are not meant to collect any money from anyone abroad. Any money collected will be forfeited and the party fined. Now what is the Labor Party's plan in regards ensuring they don't break this law.

I just watched the interview Prof Pat Utomi granted to Seun of Channels TV and I was surprised at Prof's response to this law. He was literally calling that law bluff. Based on his response, it would seem the plan of the Labor Party is to go ahead and collect monies from abroad and use it to fund their campaigns. That is very dangerous.

I must state it here that I share Prof Utomi's sentiment in regards to the funding as a way Nigerians can take back their country. I also agree that the law is a clog in the wheel of Nigerians in the diaspora who want to take back their country from the rich corrupt politicians. But I don't think it's wise to call the law bluff. This is because the law has constitutional backing. Section 225 (3) (a) and (b) of the constitution was very clear about funding from abroad. Going against the constitution is wrong as the courts will never support you.

So my advice to the Labor Party is that they assemble their legal team to study the law and seek for ways to raise funds without contravening the law. Perhaps one way, would be for an NGO or body that has no financial ties with the Labor Party be the one to champion the collection and disbursement of these Diasporan funds.

Now let's even look at the law and the purpose/intent of it. I think the reason behind the law is noble.....to prevent foreign influence on our country. A sovereign country can only remain sovereign if they are not influenced by any foreign country. I 100% agree with that. But I think that law was coined wrongly. Nigerians in diapora are not "foreigners". They are Nigerians. So even though they are abroad, they should be able to be contribute towards the growth of their country in every way possible. The law should be tweeked to prevent donations from foreigners/foreign countries and not prevent donations from Nigerian in diaspora.

Will the Labor Party call the law bluff? Will the constitution be amended? Will the Labor Party look for other ways to raise funds? Let's see how events unfold.

The law probably only applies to political parties. Not to campaign organisations. I can assure you there are a million and one ways to beat that aspect of the constitution. Those that drafted it left huge loopholes that can be exploited

oyatz:
So GEJ,Okonjo-Iwela, Aruna Oteh and Peter Obi are also the ones maintaining the economy of Nigeria to remain the largest in Africa between 2015 and 2022?

If you are living with your dad and he feeds you well and you grew into a plump tall boy, but all of a sudden you now live with your mum who doesn't feed you as well as your dad, you may grow thinner but you will not grow shorter.

Buhari had ruled Nigeria in the past, he didn't make Nigeria the largest economy in Africa.
It was in GEJ's government that Nigeria became the largest economy in Africa. A bad government taking over doesn't necessarily mean Nigeria will loose the largest economy label that easily, but Nigeria will loose in other ways e.g. Naira is now trash. Inflation has skyrocketed, unemployment has now grown to unacceptable levels and companies are now failing, and terrorism is now witnessed by all the regions of Nigeria.

If things carry on in this same trajectory, some African countries will start catching up with us and overtaking us within the next 10 years.

drlateef:
Where did he defend killers? You are a troll.

When Pa Fasoranti's daughter was killed by Fulani terrorists, Tinubu defended them, asking sarcastically, where are the cows?

Tinubu is a known defender and apologist for Fulani terrorists.

oyatz:
Many of you argue about what you know next to nothing about.


Nigeria still has the largest economy in Africa, so who is responsible for keeping it the largest since 2015?

That's because GEJ, Okonjo Iweala, Arunma Oteh and Peter Obi made it so.

We all know Tinubu and Buhari don't have what it takes to drag Nigeria to that enviable height, after all, now that Russia and Ukraine are fighting, the incompetent duo have not been able to take advantage of the situation to further accelerate the growth of the Nigerian economy. Everything is getting from bad to worse.

drlateef:
When was IPOB created? You are a liar!!! Stop the troll and Getatat here!!!

Ipob was created in 2012, but Fulani herdsmen terrorism started before then.

And to make matters worse, Tinubu backed a Fulani terrorism supporter in the 2015 and 2019 elections, and has always defended Fulani terrorists that have been killing and raping Yoruba women and men,

drlateef:
IPOB has done worse things than criminal herdsmen. Many of the so-called herdsmen are ESN and UGM IPOB wing who hide under herdsmen. Campaign will start and we will finish all of you with revelations.

Esn was created in late 2020. Tinubu's Fulani terrorists have been killing and maiming for much longer than that. Try another line

TheNiceGuy:
Northern women? So they're no more Terrorist?

Obidiotts everywhere

BATstards everywhere

God forbid BATthing

drlateef:
I think you are ignoramus. No single project completed, what was glorious about that regime? Petrol was over $100/barrel and yet second Niger bridge not started, no major roads completed. What’s glorious about that? Now read this if you are literate, I doubt much. You only know how to sell gala on roadside:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fortune.com/2014/06/02/nigeria-okonjo-iweala/amp/


For your information Iweala was minister of finance under Obasanjo.

Gej only spent 5years as a full fledged president.

In the fifth year of Buhari's presidency, he also never completed the second Niger bridge. So you don't have a point here.

Tinubu and Buhari's major achievements in Buhari's first five years as a president, was Fulani herdsmen menace and both individuals were working hard to defend Fulani terrorists who were killing, raping and torturing indigenous peoples. Let the campaign cycle begin, I'm sure more will be revealed.

drlateef:
Pdp held sway when we had money. But they never did anything with it. Buhari has to come in to restart the railways and road, now they removed the boards of the stupid GENCOs and we started having lights. Obi sold GENCOs to broke people. That’s the revelation from Fashola.

Oh, you are getting your information from Fashola who has proven himself to be one of the most incompetent ministers. This was the same guy that boasted that a serious government will solve our electricity issue in six months. Nearly 8 years down the line, I am even typing my message in darkness.

Thank God Peter Obi went to Egypt and was told how corruptly, Fashola is running the power ministry. That is the reason Nigeria is still generating just the same 4,000 megawatts of electricity after many years of being a minister.

You wrote about Nigeria having money during GEJs presidency, the point is that Nigeria is also supposed to have more money now that the war between Russia and Ukraine is raging with the higher cost of oil and gas, but the very disastrous Tinubu's economic blueprint coupled with the massive oil theft being carried out in this regime, have hampered Nigeria from generating the much needed cash.

GEJs government would have taken advantage of this war to even do better than they did. In this situation, Fashola, Tinubu and Buhari have been handed a golden opportunity by the war, yet they are still here, talking crap and giving excuses.

drlateef:
You are big liar. NIGERIA GDP was recalibrated when Okonjo Iweala was finance minister under Obasanjo. Not during Jonathan era. And it was just an error that was corrected by IMF, not that the government did anything spectacular in the economic front.

Nwokem, you're obviously a greater dunce than I imagined. Google is your friend.

Nigeria became the largest economy in Africa during GEJs presidency. This happened sometime within the last one or two years of his presidency.. Okonjo Iweala, Peter Obi, Arunma Oteh were running various aspects of the national economic life, when Nigeria attained this glorious position.

And Nigeria's economy was growing much faster then, than now that Tinubu's economic blueprint is being implemented

drlateef:
Obi was part of committee that awarded contracts to broke contractors in GENCOs and discos that brought total darkness to NIGERIA . You see why Obi was part of those that created problem for NIGERIA. Many zombidiots cannot understand that. They are blind to truth.

When was this GENCO deal brokered, and when was PDP voted out? So PDP can effectively argue that they didn't have enough time for their policies to work, with r garden to the GENCO deal.

But APC and Tinubu's economic blueprint has had nearly 8 years and everything has gone from bad to worse including electricity.

Let us also not forget that Peter Obi was part of the team that made Nigeria the largest economy in Africa. You can't beat that.

drlateef:
Positions Peter Obi held under PDP:

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/182162-jonathan-appoints-peter-obi-sec-chairman-sacks-nhis-boss.html

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/174107-jonathan-appoints-jerry-gana-peter-obi-fani-kayode-others-campaign-directors.html


https://saharareporters.com/2015/04/27/president-jonathan-rewards-former-anambra-governor-obi-others-posts

Obi only joined PDP after his APGA governorship. He left his governorship position sometime in 2014, and then joined PDP some weeks or months afterwards.

Obi was an adviser to Jonathan and was a one-time SEC DG.

It was while Obi was in Jonathan's government that Nigeria became the biggest economy in Africa. A feat not achieved by any Nigerian government since the independence of Nigeria.

What that means is that Obi showed competence. People like Ngozi Okonjo Iweala, Arunma Oteh and Peter Obi are the main reason Nigeria leapfrogged Nigeria and Egypt to become the biggest economy in Africa.

Meanwhile, since 2015 that Tinubu's terrorist became the president, Tinubu's economic policies has seen to the destruction of Nigeria\s economy and the impoverishment of the Nigerian citizenry.

drlateef:
It’s a lie. Show me where she said that. Buhari never gave any chance to Tinubu.

GO & VERIFY

https://guardian.ng/news/fg-states-using-tinubus-economic-policies-says-adeosun/

https://thewhistler.ng/tinubu-brain-behind-nigeria-s-economic-recovery-template-adeosun/

This coming election will not favour propagandists. Tinubu has some very massive questions to answer once the campaign cycle kicks in.

drlateef:
Yes, Jagaban holds the magic wand to change NIGERIA for good. Not Obi who knows nothing about bringing change to people.

Jagaban's economic policies have destroyed Nigeria.

Adeosun made it known that the Nigerian economy since 2015, was being run with Tinubu's economic blueprint.

So Tinubu will not be able to rescue Nigeria. He is principally the reason Nigeria has gone to the dogs. He cannot give what he doesn't have

Yoruba1stson:
Ok
On Tinubu's manHOOD i stand gidigba

Fixed

Ebi2233:
Ijaw is the second single largest tribe in Delta after Urhobo.

Dream on..

The Urhobosb and Igboids are the largest ethnic groups in Delta state.

So put simply, he had to bribe each of them with N300,000

Rented crowd

femisplash:
As clearly as you can see, Tinubu went for prayers, no imam called him over to the mic to address the Muslim audience neither was he handed a Nigerian flag to lift up while kneeling down on a podium.
I have been searching for just one sensible zombidient but haven't found one.

But the imams allowed him to sit on a chair, while others sat on the floor.

Tinubu also actively looked for a MUSLIM northerner as his vice. He rejected the idea of choosing a CHRISTIAN northerner, thus showing a huge bias against the Christian faith. Shouldn't this be your concern?

Tinubu and Atiku will be dodging the nigga like crazy now

Rozross:
Tinubu ‘s achievement in politics can never be compared to Obi’s amateur achievements. Bitter truth

Tinubu's economic blueprint has destroyed the nation.

Since 2015, Tinubu has shown us his economic expertise and it was admitted by a Yoruba finance minister that Tinubu's economic policies were being implemented.

So Tinubu has no record to run on. His economic record has been disastrous to the nation.

Let the 10 leaders he raised, vote for him then.


And btw, who are his leaders meant to lead? Stone?

What this really shows is that Tinubu does not care about the followers that are following the leaders that he raised.

ceede2:
... anyways, your opinion don't count.

How can you expect NBA to host Tiunbu n P-Obi? Borderline Abuse!!! They were running the same race doesn't mean BAT don't know his mate.

If you ever think BAT will honor any interviews that will make him sit with pity Obi, you are getting it wrong.

Shettima, Fashola etc, will always be there to compliment Obi in any local interviews.

But Tinubu honours gatherings where MC Oluomo can be found. He's obviously more comfortable in the midst of thugs he can buy with his ill-gotten wealth than attend gatherings where he will be rubbing minds with fellow presidential hopefuls in ways to better the lots of Nigerians.

This time around, Nigerians will not give anybody that easy ride. So that if he gets elected, he will deny ever promising anybody anything, just like the current terrorist president.

If he is scared of Obi, he doesn't deserve the presidency of Nigeria.

Onucs:
Kikikikiki...

Bro, u are suppose to be a comedian

Nnaa see me see me trouble.

I nearly fell off my chair laughing when I saw he gave Tinubu up to 6%. What a joke . He is a real comedian

So Tinubu can head all the way to South Africa to jamboree, but couldn't attend the NBA conference holding in his own Lagos.

What an unserious presidential candidate. I am expecting him to maintain this same behaviour of avoiding platforms he should take advantage of, in announcing his policies to Nigerians, in preference for owambe parties.