₦airaland Forum

beardedboy:
Now that a pastor is preaching religion+politics, he's a man of god. But "religion is the cause of African backwardness" if a Muslim cleric says similar thing.

You people are bunch of hypocrites.

But Muslim clerics have been saying it since na and Christians have kept quiet. You cannot seperate religion and politics in any part of the world. The religion will always come to bear.

seyewest:
Lagos airport is stresful... congrats

The airport no dey ever change. Always begging like they do not receive salary.

sokera:
you are obedient so no matter what Peter Obi do wrong you will always see him as a saint , but the bad news is that Peter Obi is one of the normal and traditional Nigeria politician … you are free to package him the way you want people to see him but we all can’t be deceived … Peter Lie too much but you are free to support your candidate in peace and I will support my Asiwaju in peace …

Lol. He is no saint, he is a politician and they have a way of marketing things but he's the only one right now that has a conscience

garfield1:
No.you can't go to court after election.you can only go to court within 14 days within the occurrence. Let's say the substitution happened on 1st June.they have till 15 june

The case isn't election case. Its simply you won duly contested primaries so you won the election. They should better go to court in time

garfield1:
Yes.inec has accepted their names and that is final

Me I will just go to court after they win and take the position. They will use their money to campaign and win and I will just come and sit on the seat

sokera:
that means you don’t know the basic , Peter invested money since 2007 and it was PDP that was in Aso rock then , and if Peter is a good economics as he claimed he should know investing money in human is better than investing in shares … he did a very very bad thing … he should be in jail for using government money to invest in his family business ..

Bro you have no point. He broke no law, even he invited EFCC to audit him. Ask Warren buffet about investing in stocks, he is one of the richest in the world. Just incase you don't know, billionaires wealth are measured by their share price.

Now check the history of the share and check when it started going down, you will notice that after the uneducated dullard took power, NIgeria changed direction. Investing in people is what he did when he built schools and hospitals except you are among those that believe in looting

Frigga13:
Reason why I like my North.. they will never say what they’re not so sure of

But down south

Everyone go dey him house the talk wetin the happen for places they’ve never visited or have an idea what they place looks like

.. hypocrites that can judge .. especially the igbo people ... with all their noise about registration , peter Obi , Pvc ... Bornu alone is still much ahead of entire east on registration of new voters

Very quietly doing theirs ... to an Igbo OBi supporters.. Na Obi make people dey register to get pvc ..
They sabi judge and conclude ..

While Yoruba sabi analyze .. wetin. Dem no sabi at all

Tell them reality .. south will abuse you .


Power to the people
North 2023

The North can never win election, they need alliance with the south, on the other hand, the south will always win elections even without full coperation of the North. If you think I am lying ask Buhari why 12 million nothern votes could never make him president. Kwankwaso is another dreamer who if he does not align with Peter Obi, he may be the next Atiku in few years. Atiku on the other hand cannot even win properly in the North.

2023 election is betweeen Tinubu and Obi

sokera:
are you kidding me ? It was invested in dollars and after the calculation to naira as at last week it has turn to 5billion from 12billion naira .. then remember the country inflation has increase so it’s a very very bad investment…

SO YOU AGREE APC HAS DONE WORST? FIRST WHY ARE YOU CHECKING THE STOCK PRICE IN NAIRA AND NOT DOLLAR IF IT WAS INVESTED IN DOLLAR?

Apriltreasure:
Good day guys. I payed for my appointment date 26 July and I was debited on my account, but I got an email saying the payment failed but I haven’t gotten my money back. I’ve emailed the VFS global and they haven’t replied me. My departure date is 1st September, and I don’t know what to do they are not replying me and their website said I have exceeded the maximum no for appointment. I live in Benin I don’t want to go to Abuja just to lay a complaint.. I tried the Lagos center and they said no slots are available.. I’ve made reservations and I don’t want to cancel. people somebody help ��

I think you should also contact your bank as well.

sokera:
I don’t understand you , what I am saying is that the money he kept in investment that has not crashed from 12billion to 5billion , imagine if the money is invested in farming , technology, or youths empowerment I am sure a lot of Anambra youths won’t be hawking bread Lagos traffic

I am sure he did all that. You cannot spend all your fortune on today, you must invest for the future. And in reality, if you look at the naira value, the money appreciated from 1.9 billion to about 2.2 billion. Not a bad investment if you ask me

AnonPoet:
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https://cddwestafrica.org/fact-check-did-inec-officials-prevent-igbos-from-registering-for-pvc-in-lagos/

Did they fact check the outcry in Enugu or the one at Alaba? Na the ones when we no even hear of una dey fact check. Fact check the viral ones now cut and choose verification.

We like to waste our vote. It is one man, one vote. Let us waste the vote and tell our children we voted conscience and voted for a better Nigeria. Oga is looking for who will vote their looting. They all know that with an Obi, shop is closed, everyone will work hard to earn their income and place in the society

A court ruling has said they cannot stop registration until 60 days before election. That is what INEC has to follow except the appeal

casualobserver:
Go and tell the contractors handling the jobs.

The debt or liability exists the minute the contract is signed and provision must be made by all in the accounts. That it is not due for payment does not mean it doesn’t exist. Like I said the state was either run by quacks or the handover notes are fraudulent…pick one. This is my profession you are not in a position to argue with me.

You are clearly ignorant. Please go and speak to an accountant who can school you properly.

Sorry professional, there are conditions for every contract to receive payment. The fact you sign a contract does not guarantee you are paid for it except you fufil the conditions. As at the time the guy left office, all concluded contracts was paid for. YOu have find fault tire, you no see. Let the contractor sue him first. All of una when me nairaland professionals.

casualobserver:
Clealry I am wasting my time with you. why did he include FG refund that he hasnt received but failed to include contracts he hasnt paid for. At least be consistent, if you are going to include cash refunds that havebnt materialised, then include contractor liabilities that havent materialised. If you are going to include bond investments that you have no access to because they havent matured, then include liabilities that havent matured. You cannot pick and choose, that is accounting fraud.

There is no doubt He inherited debt and will pas on debt to his successor, he also inherited assets and will pass on assets. Government is a continium. My contention is that he deliberately did not include the 185B debt because saying I left 75B sounds better than the truth which is he left N105 billion in net debt and liabilities as confirmed by Obiano a trained career accountant and professional banker, who knows how to prepare accounts.

There is nothing wrong with admitting your man was wrong, this is why Obi supporters have developed a reputation, it is as if admitting fault means you cant support your man. What you instead do is present yourselves a a bumch of people who dont use their brains and cant be reasoned with. I support Tinubu, he has many flaws, I wont defend it when people accuse him of this or that that I know is true. I will even admit he has plenty K-leg but upon all his K-leg, I still feel he is the better of the poor choices we have. The problem with the vast majority of you people is that you defend the indefensible.

I think you are trying to look for a fault. As at the time he left, the debt was not existing.

casualobserver:
I am not disputing that he left 75b in cash and investments. The point of contention is that he conveniently and deliberately failed to mention that there were outstanding contract liabilities worth 185 billion. That is not how you prepare a handover note which is effectively a balance sheet. Please ask any accountant. You don’t state the cash you have without stating the your liabilities even if they are not due today. You don’t prepare a balance sheet and say as at today June 22, I have no payments due, so I won’t include the money I owe ogatboy on my balance sheet because I am not due to pay him until he asks, thats false accounting. Or else every outgoing administration can just borrow huge sums from a bank, list it as cash and not reveal the repayments due on that loan because no repayment is due on that particular date.

The argument that the payments on the contracts we’re not due is a mischevious argument. Many of the bonds and cash investments have a maturity date in the future and cannot be accessed on the handover date….so why state those? Why state money you will get in 3,4,5 years but don’t state liabilities that may be due anytime a contractor presents a bill of payment? Handover notes are like a balance sheet. A snapshot of affairs at a point in time. Failing to include liabilities from contracts entered into is either a display of incompetence or manipulation aka accounting fraud.


I was just presented facts on Peter Obi’s claims on $100m. I verified and found it to be true and I had no problem in admiting I was wrong. I deal in facts. The problem with many Obi supporters is they deny facts. If you present facts I will readily shift my position as I have already displayed but as someone who works in finance, I know I am right on this.

You're holding claim to this debt. I agree it was there but what was he supposed to do?? Besides if the present governor felt he couldn't pay up, he could have cancelled because the projects were not delivered. You also forget he was left huge amount of debts and he did not complain. He made a true and verifiable statement. He was not owing any debt for any contract that had delivered certificate.

For me he's the most trustworthy POLITICIANS

casualobserver:
Nobody said he stole. I will argue against anyone who says Obi is a thief. The problem with Obi is that he lies effortlessly. EFCc is not going to investigate anyone for dubious handover notes.

Atiku and Tinubu are shifty we know this. The problem is Peter Obi and his supporters are touting him as a man who is clean when in fact the whole Peter Obi phenomenon is based on lies, half truth and the manipulation of gullible desperate supporters clinging for anyone who is different but not discerning enough to navigate the BS. I was a Peter OBi disciple myself when he came to prominence on the platform, then I started to examine him closely he started to unravel. His biggest problem is he enjoys the limelight and he talks too much. So the more he talks the more he unravels because there is nothing underneath the rhetoric. The more he talks the more he lies for no reason because he has no track record to back the persona and hype he has created for himself.

Atiku and Tinubu are crooks true. but they will accomplish more than Peter Obi. Peter Obi has no meaningful record in government. Again it is because he has nothing to show for his time in office that he resorts to lies.

Sorry I have verified and those statements were made in 2018 and were true. The issue of the debt was cleared online. Maybe you should listen to him objectively and his defense of all accusations. Even the Pandora stuff, he came out publicly to explain what happened. I don't see any half truth.

He built roads, Universities and education went up in Anambra. Except you are just biased, he did more than even Fashola considering their resources

Okay to those saying Peter Obi lied, the claims were all made in 2018 and yes, it was $100 million at the time, thanks to Buhari that has now killed Nigeria economy. Yes, Anambra state was the largest shareholder then as well. Don't be mischevious people, the guy is not a saint but you guys can not still dig dirt on him. He must be the cleanest Nigerian politician, no wonder he is so confident.

casualobserver:
He seems to be in a habit of getting his facts wrong. While you are verifying please also verify that

1. Anambra state government wa a the largest shareholder in the company as you heard him say….a lie

2. Contrary to the position being touted that he left 75b when he left Anambra, the real state of affairs was that he left a net liability of 105B. As he does by always being economical with the truth, he conveniently failed to mention that the state govt had contingent liabilities of 185B.

A man of Peter Obi’s stature and business experience knows how to prepare accounts. I refuse to believe he was incompetent or inept. This was either deliberate attempt at being fraudulent or he is incompetent. But no accountant will give you a balance sheet and not state liabilities because they are not due today. The man is very clever with his choice of words. You have to decipher and investigate when Obi talks about his affairs. Because they are mostly lies and half truths.

If he is fradulent, how come he was never invited by EFCC or never had any corruption charges compared to other candidates running. Truth is that he is not a saint but he is miles above those competing against him (most of who cannot go freely to the USA). He is a politician and a politician will always be that.

If he place his did side by side with Atiku or Tinubu, I am sure you know what the result will be. I do not think anyone thinks Obi is a saint but given the current realities, he is the best of all that is out there.

casualobserver:
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Watch the video, it is there in the link:

The VP Candidate was accusing their IPOB supporters of lying, whereas the lie originated from his principal, the Lie Lie Bobo pic.twitter.com/ioMsJxLEvh

— Ayekooto (@DeeOneAyekooto) June 21, 2022

[b]“I invested in it over twenty something million dollars, it is worth over one hundred today, that’s what government should do”.

From the horses mouth. Watch the video and Argue with yourself

Okay then he got his facts wrong. I will verify when this statement was made because if it was in 2018 as people are claiming then he was very right because the price was almost $100 million.
For now I will say he gaffed until I verify when the video was recorded

Atiku is not in this race. I have always said it, he will never be Nigeria's president. He should stop wasting his money. All those shouting that the North determines election, Besides Buhari who clearly needed the south west to win election, which election northerns don win on their own?

[quote author=casualobserver post=114042199]The point is that Peter Obi claimed the investment was now worth $100m. That’s a bare face lie like all things Peter Obi. He also lies that Anambra was the largest shareholder when it only owned 10% of Interfact breweries and consequently 4.7% of international breweries post consolidation. Peter Obi is a man who lies effortlessly at will.

You can watch the video here

The VP Candidate was accusing their IPOB supporters of lying, whereas the lie originated from his principal, the Lie Lie Bobo pic.twitter.com/ioMsJxLEvh

— Ayekooto (@DeeOneAyekooto) June 21, 2022

he did not make the claim that $20 million was now $100 million, the statement was attributed to Soludo which he debunked. It could have been one of his supporters or even an opposition. When campaign starts, we will scrutinize everyone. I hope Atiku and Tinubu would be able to defend their wealth and time in government.

sokera:
which Peter Obi is one of them , imagine if he had use that money to develop human capital or employer farmers … do you know that money is enough to build ranch that would provide cow meat for the entire south-east ?

First what do you mean by human capital cos he built schools from start to finish, secondly, the company provides employment to Nigeria which is also a form of empowerment. Is it that you want to be mischevious or you truly lack understanding?

Did you access the personality of the farm or are Anambra people skilled in rearing cow?

helinues:
Well, Obi would have done better or perhaps done the same as a president but not something extra ordinary. You guys too dey hype this man.. haba

So you guys believe you can change the mindset of millions of Nigerians to vote for Obi? From which region outside SE?

The skull miners joined Amala and ewedu people from SW

Irrespective of the regions in North, na all joined together when it comes to calling them almajiri,poverty headquarters.

SS , LP is an allien Party to them as they have no stake in the party, at least the still have reasonable stakes in Apc and Pdp, so Obi getting 15% votes from any of the SS States mean say him tried when Okowa would be Atiku's VP

Meanwhile, within SE that Obi is from , the political elites are keeping mum about Obi's presidency. Pdp is still rooted in SE cos those who have won the Party ticket would want to win their election and for their presidential candidate to win as well.

Obi could have left Pdp early and build LP earlier from scratch.

The calculation you have not made is that from historical record, the candidate running from presidency has highest voter turnout from his region during that period. 2023 is interesting because all the regions are on the ballot. Kano and Lagos are the two largest voting block. Let us assume no merger, Kano vote will be splitted between Kwankwaso and Atiku, South west will be Tinubu but if the youths in Lagos come out to vote en mass, Obi might carry Lagos. The East will easily go to Obi and the South will be splitted between Obi and Atiku. The race is just between Obi and Tinubu. PdP has no chance in this election.

livinbygrace:
I have come to realized that there are millions of Muguns/Mumus in this country and that’s why politicians are just taking us for granted.All these”I have one shoe,enter economy flight,don’t waste money are all formats.
The Saint OBI claimed he invested $20m and that as at today has gained interests to $100m ,how come the state government is contradicting that statement?Nigerians, shine your eyes and make God not let us miss Buhari

First the guy is not a saint but the the others cannot stand when it comes to him because they are just flat our criminals. The value of the shares is a fact that APC has mismanaged the economy. Why are you gys focused on the dollar value. Focus on the naira value and tell us if it has gained or not. I think you need to shine your eye properly else you might never just make it. Read details and analyse, dont just chew all you see.

sokera:
he is just a stupid person, if he had use that money on agricultural sector would have been better than investing in beer company ? Very stupid decision , he didn’t invest in tech companies or agricultural

Reality is your government of today is clueless. Every company on the NSE is on downward slope. I suppose short Nigeria stock exchange

So many things from this investment news,

1. He believed I'm Nigeria and invested the money in Nigeria. He could have easily invested it abroad but the idea was to better the economy of Nigeria.

2. The APC guys managing the economy crumbled it because the share price of the company has gone down due to poor economic realities. Who to blame?? Those managing the present economy

3. Even Dagote share price, gtb share price and all other big companies share price have been on the decline.

In summary, Tinubu and atifku are thiefs. Obi made a good investment decision but Buhari and Osibanjo are clueless and has crumbled the economy of Nigeria

Who is in Manchester this weekend?

Who is in Manchester this weekend? Feel free to chat me up or give me suggestions of fun things I can do

TooNoisy:
Keep deceiving yourselves. Peter Obi will not get 25% in any northern state. He is unknown over there.

He is not known in Osun, Ogun, Ekiti, Ondo and Oyo. No chance of him getting 25% in these SW states.

He wouldn't get 25% in Edo and Delta for sure. Oshiomole/Obaseki will secure Edo for APC/PDP. Okowa will secure Delta for PDP as he is on the ballot.

Obi cannot win any South South State. Udom will secure Akwa Ibom for PDP. Duoye Diri will do same in Bayelsa. Wike will probably join APC or at least remain in PDP. Cross Rivers will be split between 3 parties.

First you forget it's one man and one vote and even sitting governors loose their state in a presidential election so that analysis is floored. An election conducted without inducement or rigging won't give pdp or apc any chance. Mind you campaign has not started so he will be known in the north and their campaign focus would be that region.

In the west, if the youth block comes out to vote, especially in Lagos, its just game over. APC might be loosing Lagos even in the Governorship election

Sunsen:
Yes, after 8 years, he will now come and say it is his turn as well...

Same thing y'all complaining about Tinubu, now it's making sense because it's about Peter Obi

First let's consider the age and then track records. A Fashola, Osibanjo would enjoy wider support

SmartPolician:
Nigerians know how to circumvent the grey areas of every law

I think the law should be amended in a way that they must provide a running mate before official campaigns start.

This is more reasonable.

Yea that the law. Campaign does not start till August 8. July 15 or so is the deadline for substituting names.